I agree, except for the LGPL. I have exactly one critique point with it: its size. The LGPL is about 25 KiB, whereas the MirBSD licence template comes to about 850 Bytes.
Hmm right. Asides from the Hercules (the box is called HERC, btw) I mentioned in the other post of mine, I've got a VT420 too, sticking in my Sparcstation. I got donated both, and was forced to port MirBSD to it (even if I didn't really want)...
Then, here where I am currently (www.netzladen.org), we got a DECstation 5000/260 with a VT320 even. I'm the only one using it as shell, but it rocks.
It's a Commodore 1202 (I think, can't look at it now since I'm not at home) which is the display of my {router, firewall, main MirBSD CVS server, mldonkey machine, shell server, mail server} Pentium-120 at home behind ADSL.
I use it occasionally, if I just check mails, coming from outside and going to bed instantly. It's still got its shiny 50 Hz 720x348px display, but XF4 doesn't support it (though I will maybe write a module in 1-2 years when I get spare time), and it has slightly "waves".
I learned BlockOut on a HGC, and it's better than on any EGA+ screen, because it's got no colour.
Heh, I was just going to recommend it myself. I'm using it all the time I don't use icewm (which makes 99.95% now, but I still recommend icewm to newcomers).
I must say I will prove you wrong. Actually, it happens to be truth that MirOS cannot die:
MirOS BSD and MirPorts is nothing else than MirBSD, which is defined as ``the contents of _my_/usr/src and/usr/ports and thus cannot die by definitionem.
MirOS Linux isn't even a pure BSD, so it's not dead either.
On the other hand, * their website does not support SSL (https) * their FTP servers, where you can get the
CTM base {,split} files and deltas, does not
support SSL (sftp) * their SSH servers' fingerprints aren't published,
or even (better) a skeleton known_hosts file
included on the CD * they don't provide signed RMD160 sums of the
files on the CD (signed with pgp 2.6.3i{a,n},
so even people like me that don't trust newer
pgp/gpg versions can verify these)
The MirOS project does most of these. Plus, we do provide a bootloader which is capable of handling hard discs larger than 8 GB in size.
When I read the headline, I thought about the slashdot logo (I never see because I am using lynx). When reading the first lines, I wandered from "uh, why?" via "hmm..." to "mmh, but which one?"
But seeing the proposal, he gets my full ACK, and I must admit I couldn't have come up with a better one than (IIRC, from memory):
For Unix/BSD lpd system, you can actually use ghostscript as printer filter (if=) in printcap(5), and use that printer to print from samba. No need to manually throw it to ps2pdf for that. I just can't find the posting now where I first read about it.
Hmm, let me dig out the link... ah, here you are: http://linuxsecurity.com/articles/vendors_pr oducts _article-6009.html
The more funny part of that is that there are actually DAUs as worse as the usual WinDAU.
This is why I don't think people not capable of handling Unix correctly should be forced to use it (unless they aren't root on their own PCs, of course - that makes for new jobs;-)
I'd be really surprised if that would. For example, in Germany Microsoft can't even do the same thing (forbid to sell the product to others) for their software end users (the OEM agreements are all invalid here).
I just wonder what kind of people invents these clauses. They must have been eaten something really fishy...
... of the times when I was still using freenet-project.
On IRC, they always were mobbing me because of OpenBSD, and after two head developers, Ian Clarke being one of them, named me a Nazi and made tail- length comparisions, I left.
Not only this saved me from the hassle of putting up first Java then freenet-project up on OpenBSD and publishing the results as a service to the general public, no it also showed me, again, that many projects have problems with their attitude (can't exclude MirBSD though).
They were trying to replace fproxy by a Mozilla (full bloat version) fork with fproxy integrated at that time. Nothing really stable...
PS: Please don't ask for the IRC logs of when They
offended me - I delete my logs daily.
They don't just have the right to, but rather Theo de Raadt actively asks companies to use his code, even for "baby-mulching machines" (from an interview).
UFS1 + Softupdates can hose data (but not metadata) only in one circumstance (tested that):
You forgot to disable the hard disc hardware write cache. (This must be done for journalling FSes as well if you want data integrity.)
FreeBSD does this with the bootloader, in OpenBSD, you execute # atactl wd0 writecachedisable or use the interactive command for SCSI discs: # scsi -f/dev/rsd0c -m 8 -P 3 -e and set the WCE entry to 0.
Heh, are you trying to trick me into writing documentation?:-)
Well, the short story is: MirBSD is OpenBSD-mirabile, and the name got too long, plus I needed a CVS tag.
The long story: I'm a happy OpenBSD user, but sometimes I'm just not OK with the decisions made by our "benevolent dictator" Theo de Raadt. That's why I started to modify my tree locally - starting with wtf(1): >>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?m=103065556502499
Because I got positive feedback for not always OKing Theo, I decided to make my efforts public - not least because I fixed severe bugs in the wtf(1) script (which started being NetBSD wtf(6) btw).
When I was at a 7 files patchset to OpenBSD, more than 2 MB, I decided to have either an OpenCM or a CVS repository on my own, and decided to stick with CVS for another couple of years because my development machine just doesn't have 2.5 GB of RAM needed for OpenCM when importing the OpenBSD tree...
and now I'm still releasing stuff formally, and MirBSD #7 RELEASE will be there in a few days.
I hereby invite you to try out the latest MirBSD snapshot and stop meaningless belief into so-called authorities such as RMS and ESR.
Oh, wrt the filesystems: when ensuring absolute data integrity, ufs outperforms ext3. Measures: hard disc hardware write cache off, softupdates on (ffs)./. journalling = data+metadata
I'm happy with my MirBSD, and I hope other people can profit from it - and be it just that I fixed some bugs in OpenBSD and NetBSD code.
Slashdot Mirror
I agree, except for the LGPL.
I have exactly one critique point with it:
its size. The LGPL is about 25 KiB, whereas
the MirBSD licence template comes to about
850 Bytes.
Hmm right. Asides from the Hercules (the box is
called HERC, btw) I mentioned in the other post
of mine, I've got a VT420 too, sticking in my
Sparcstation.
I got donated both, and was forced to port MirBSD
to it (even if I didn't really want)...
Then, here where I am currently (www.netzladen.org),
we got a DECstation 5000/260 with a VT320 even.
I'm the only one using it as shell, but it rocks.
It's a Commodore 1202 (I think, can't look at it
now since I'm not at home) which is the display
of my {router, firewall, main MirBSD CVS server,
mldonkey machine, shell server, mail server}
Pentium-120 at home behind ADSL.
I use it occasionally, if I just check mails,
coming from outside and going to bed instantly.
It's still got its shiny 50 Hz 720x348px display,
but XF4 doesn't support it (though I will maybe
write a module in 1-2 years when I get spare time),
and it has slightly "waves".
I learned BlockOut on a HGC, and it's better than
on any EGA+ screen, because it's got no colour.
Heh, I was just going to recommend it myself.
I'm using it all the time I don't use icewm
(which makes 99.95% now, but I still recommend
icewm to newcomers).
I've even put it into the MirBSD base system.
And MicroBSD has had the fix five years ago ;-)
the idea isn't new: userfriendly.org, the world's
best online comic strip, has advocated the
EvilPhish(TM)
a couple of weeks ago...
In case you mean me, I'm no stinking US American.
I must say I will prove you wrong. Actually, it
/usr/src /usr/ports and thus cannot die by definitionem.
happens to be truth that MirOS cannot die:
MirOS BSD and MirPorts is nothing else than MirBSD,
which is defined as ``the contents of _my_
and
MirOS Linux isn't even a pure BSD, so it's not
dead either.
Actually I think I proved you wrong. Jane.
The two bugs you mention, weren't actually bugs
in OpenBSD.
* one was a bug in PAM and most GNU vendors
* one is a bug, but can't be exploited due to
W^X, propolice, NXSTACK, NXHEAP and friends.
Heck, I've tried the gobbles exploit again
against OpenBSD-2.9-OpenSSH where it worked
back then. It failed to run due to these four.
Hey, I know you :)
/. :)
You're actually reading comments on
You must be bored then
On the other hand,
* their website does not support SSL (https)
* their FTP servers, where you can get the
CTM base {,split} files and deltas, does not
support SSL (sftp)
* their SSH servers' fingerprints aren't published,
or even (better) a skeleton known_hosts file
included on the CD
* they don't provide signed RMD160 sums of the
files on the CD (signed with pgp 2.6.3i{a,n},
so even people like me that don't trust newer
pgp/gpg versions can verify these)
The MirOS project does most of these. Plus, we
do provide a bootloader which is capable of
handling hard discs larger than 8 GB in size.
The logo is not exactly for hackers.
It's for people who associate themselfes with
our culture (not excluding real hackers though)
in general.
Damn, I'm already making up complicatedly-winded
English sentences again. (Does this give you a
hint as to where I am from? Just curious.)
When I read the headline, I thought about the
... this one. ESR, way to go!
slashdot logo (I never see because I am using lynx).
When reading the first lines, I wandered from "uh,
why?" via "hmm..." to "mmh, but which one?"
But seeing the proposal, he gets my full ACK,
and I must admit I couldn't have come up with
a better one than (IIRC, from memory):
##
##
## ##
####
For Unix/BSD lpd system, you can actually use
ghostscript as printer filter (if=) in printcap(5),
and use that printer to print from samba.
No need to manually throw it to ps2pdf for that.
I just can't find the posting now where I first
read about it.
Hmm, let me dig out the link...r oducts _article-6009.html
;-)
ah, here you are:
http://linuxsecurity.com/articles/vendors_p
The more funny part of that is that there are
actually DAUs as worse as the usual WinDAU.
This is why I don't think people not capable of
handling Unix correctly should be forced to use
it (unless they aren't root on their own PCs, of
course - that makes for new jobs
Yes, I actually do read EULAs.
And that clause would be void in Germany at least,
that's why I'm asking.
I'd be really surprised if that would. For example,
in Germany Microsoft can't even do the same thing
(forbid to sell the product to others) for their
software end users (the OEM agreements are all
invalid here).
I just wonder what kind of people invents these
clauses. They must have been eaten something
really fishy...
Same nick as here, and when... I don't have an idea.
Surprisingly enough you're an anonymous coward.
'nuff said, I got over it with this freenet-project.
... of the times when I was still using freenet-project.
On IRC, they always were mobbing me because of
OpenBSD, and after two head developers, Ian Clarke
being one of them, named me a Nazi and made tail-
length comparisions, I left.
Not only this saved me from the hassle of putting
up first Java then freenet-project up on OpenBSD
and publishing the results as a service to the
general public, no it also showed me, again, that
many projects have problems with their attitude
(can't exclude MirBSD though).
They were trying to replace fproxy by a Mozilla
(full bloat version) fork with fproxy integrated
at that time. Nothing really stable...
PS: Please don't ask for the IRC logs of when They
offended me - I delete my logs daily.
They don't just have the right to, but rather
Theo de Raadt actively asks companies to use his
code, even for "baby-mulching machines" (from an
interview).
There is always TinyLDAP from Felix "SMTP is not
simple, LDAP is not light-weight, wtf?" von Leitner.
He doesn't want to implement read/write access at
the moment though, unless you provide code to him
which does that in 600 KB.
UFS1 + Softupdates can hose data (but not
/dev/rsd0c -m 8 -P 3 -e
metadata) only in one circumstance (tested that):
You forgot to disable the hard disc hardware
write cache. (This must be done for journalling
FSes as well if you want data integrity.)
FreeBSD does this with the bootloader, in OpenBSD,
you execute
# atactl wd0 writecachedisable
or use the interactive command for SCSI discs:
# scsi -f
and set the WCE entry to 0.
Heh, are you trying to trick me into writing documentation? :-)
Well, the short story is: MirBSD is OpenBSD-mirabile,
and the name got too long, plus I needed a CVS tag.
The long story: I'm a happy OpenBSD user, but sometimes
I'm just not OK with the decisions made by our
"benevolent dictator" Theo de Raadt. That's why I started
to modify my tree locally - starting with wtf(1):
>>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?m=103065556502499
Because I got positive feedback for not always OKing Theo,
I decided to make my efforts public - not least because I
fixed severe bugs in the wtf(1) script (which started being
NetBSD wtf(6) btw).
When I was at a 7 files patchset to OpenBSD, more than 2 MB,
I decided to have either an OpenCM or a CVS repository on my
own, and decided to stick with CVS for another couple of
years because my development machine just doesn't have 2.5 GB
of RAM needed for OpenCM when importing the OpenBSD tree...
and now I'm still releasing stuff formally,
and MirBSD #7 RELEASE will be there in a few days.
I hereby invite you to try out the latest MirBSD
./. journalling = data+metadata
snapshot and stop meaningless belief into so-called
authorities such as RMS and ESR.
Oh, wrt the filesystems: when ensuring absolute
data integrity, ufs outperforms ext3.
Measures: hard disc hardware write cache off,
softupdates on (ffs)
I'm happy with my MirBSD, and I hope other people
can profit from it - and be it just that I fixed
some bugs in OpenBSD and NetBSD code.