Okay, it may be GPL with exception, but I _do_ recall someone from the FSF posting that using the "imports" keyword of java (or was it spelled import?) is actually importing code, not linking against it, thus GPLing your gcj-developed code effectively.
That's only true for the java stuff. As far as I know, the compiler+libraries used for
- C
- C++
- Objective C
- Fortran
- Ada are LGPL'd (please correct me if not) and free of the following issue seen on a mailing list:
The libjava of GCC is LGPL'd, however using the imports keyword of java and inheriting a standard java class makes use of the library so you MUST LGPL your own code. IMO Bullshit, because you could develop java code using sunjdk and then only compile it using gcj, but the FSF's politics isn't really nice.
I've also removed all the un-free GFDL'd documenta- tion (i.e. anything which specifies front or back cover texts and/or invariant sections), just like the Debian project.
Okay, enough the flamebait. I've tried to update MirBSD (which went from ports-gcc-3.2.2 to in-tree backup gcc-2.95 due to a failure in the gcc 3.3 update for the ports) to an in-tree 3.3 gcc, and somehow it failed.
Right now I've imported gcc 3.3.1, but have no idea whatsoever if it'll work. If someone wants to help, reply (I get mailed).
When I still was not fully converted to unixoid operating systems, I made a Windows(R) 95 B 2.1 set consisting of
- 2x 3.5" HD 1440K floppies
- 1x 3.5" DD 720K floppy
The first (HD) one was bootable, and it had registry, command prompt and VGA 256 colours.
If I had included Explorer, it'd grown up to 3x 3.5" HD 1440K floppies - but I needed not even overformat (1600K) the floppies.
The problem with the BSD in-tree warnings is that the programmes have been fixed (even strcpy and sprintf are warned now), but the GNU stuff in the tree not.
I'd like that too, and maybe I'll try it out the next days. I've got a friend who's only prevented from using OpenBSD (or MirBSD) as his main OS because there {we,a}re no nVidia "drivers" (though I dislike to speak of "drivers" in a unix OS).
When writing about breaking into systems, please use the term "cracking", and in no event "hacking", since people might get a bad opinion about us hackers/geeks/nerds/...
You'd be surprised to hear how many people areconsidering BSD now. Even I was shocked to see several people, including IBM's Almaden Research Lab, and a bunch of japanese companies, downloading my special flavour (MirBSD). And many people in IRC get install help from me. I feel I'll have a userbase larger than I can cope with soon:)
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They seem to spread well - this shows us that BSDisn't dead, in contrast to GNU (see the recent discussion Debian vs GFDL).
I first evaluated IPv6 at home, with a 28k8 modem and a tunnel broker. That was over three years ago.
Since a long time, we're using it in production, with no problems whatsoever - except for most sites and mail servers, and some IRC servers (freenode.net being the good exception) we still need NAT on IPv4 to access them.
Good news is that my IPv6 provider has a mail server with relaying enabled for its own netblocks.
Actually, last time I set up an Outlook ExpreÃY for a friend of mine, I was wondering what "account" does mean on German. It took me a fair amount of minutes.
I am explicitly against anglicisms in the German language, and people know me as anti-USA, but I think "use the right tool for the job" (yes, I'm a BSD user...), so I don't have any German com- puter programme any more except for WinZip, where I have no crack for the English version:)
OTOH, I'm not using Windows for anything but gaming any more, so I probably won't need it anyways...
Do these damn US-Americans who still own most of the free IPv4 addresses at least use IPv6-only connectivity to those satelites, or are they using up IPv4 addresses we in Europe or those over there in Asia could need better?
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This is just the same what I wondered about.
It's what a FSF person said. Not what I think
or mean.
Right, but it seems instantiating(sp?) in C++
and in Java(TM) are different things to the FSF.
Or importing. Don't really remember.
Okay, it may be GPL with exception, but I _do_
recall someone from the FSF posting that using the
"imports" keyword of java (or was it spelled import?)
is actually importing code, not linking against it,
thus GPLing your gcj-developed code effectively.
I'm sorry to not have archived that posting.
That's only true for the java stuff. As far as I
know, the compiler+libraries used for
- C
- C++
- Objective C
- Fortran
- Ada
are LGPL'd (please correct me if not) and free of
the following issue seen on a mailing list:
The libjava of GCC is LGPL'd, however using the
imports keyword of java and inheriting a standard
java class makes use of the library so you MUST
LGPL your own code.
IMO Bullshit, because you could develop java code
using sunjdk and then only compile it using gcj,
but the FSF's politics isn't really nice.
I've also removed all the un-free GFDL'd documenta-
tion (i.e. anything which specifies front or back
cover texts and/or invariant sections), just like
the Debian project.
Don't they say that (stable A[BP]I) every time? :)
Okay, enough the flamebait. I've tried to update
MirBSD (which went from ports-gcc-3.2.2 to in-tree
backup gcc-2.95 due to a failure in the gcc 3.3
update for the ports) to an in-tree 3.3 gcc, and
somehow it failed.
Right now I've imported gcc 3.3.1, but have no
idea whatsoever if it'll work.
If someone wants to help, reply (I get mailed).
Sorry. When I did mine, I didn't even know what
the internet is. (Germany is like a 3rd world
country wrt computer networks...)
When I still was not fully converted to unixoid
operating systems, I made a Windows(R) 95 B 2.1
set consisting of
- 2x 3.5" HD 1440K floppies
- 1x 3.5" DD 720K floppy
The first (HD) one was bootable, and it had
registry, command prompt and VGA 256 colours.
If I had included Explorer, it'd grown up to 3x
3.5" HD 1440K floppies - but I needed not even
overformat (1600K) the floppies.
I think I've still got them in the subbasement.
The problem with the BSD in-tree warnings is that the
programmes have been fixed (even strcpy and sprintf
are warned now), but the GNU stuff in the tree not.
root@n1:/usr/src/gnu/gcc/libiberty # grep sprintf * | wc -l
77
And it's not a fun task to fix crappy GNU code.
(It's not fun to fix AT&T-stylish written 4.4BSD
nroff/neqn and friends either...)
Nice troll. Just to say that, in terms of code
quality, centralized development models are superior,
not inferior, to this bazaar-linux-GNUish things.
It's just a speeded up development, inflated code,
which is gained by bazaar-like development.
The BSD spirit means we want to make stuff available
to anyone, free to use. This does include Microsoft,
Irak, Afghanistan and others.
Please don't feel offended - this is just the way
the BSD spirit works, and it's intended.
From an European's viewpoint, the US is one of the
most unfree countries around the world.
I'd like that too, and maybe I'll try it out the
next days.
I've got a friend who's only prevented from using
OpenBSD (or MirBSD) as his main OS because there
{we,a}re no nVidia "drivers" (though I dislike to
speak of "drivers" in a unix OS).
It was a bug in the last version of lynx-current,
which is the www browser I use.
When writing about breaking into systems, please
use the term "cracking", and in no event "hacking",
since people might get a bad opinion about us
hackers/geeks/nerds/...
Reference: www.catb.org/~esr/jargon
Did that, but didn't really like them. Only
/var/log/messages" always visible.
.Xmodmap, .Xresources,
.xinitrc and friends...
evilwm persuaded me (and the fact that OpenBSD
only has the NetBSD wscons as text console, 80x25
(okay, you can get 80x50 too, but that sucks on a
14.1" laptop LCD with the thick black border)
and only 6 (or 7, here) virtual consoles.
With evilwm I have 8 virtual workspaces, and top(1)
and "tail -f
check out the files
in MirBSD where I publish my
I remapped the "Alt" thingie you speak
/ sr c/share/misc/contrib/dot.Xmodmap
about to the Windows-Key(s), called Meta_L
and Meta_R. (The WinMenu-Key is compose - a great
thing IMHO).
This allows for Meta-Tab in midnight commander to
do filename completion (alt-tab switches windows
in evilwm as well).
http://mirbsd.bsdadvocacy.org/active/cvsweb.cgi
is the ~/.Xmodmap file I use - designed for a 105-key
(international) keyboard (mine is German, but laptop -
still works well). The key labelled "< > |" is used
for Mode_Switch, i.e. hit the key and "a" at the same time
and you'll get (German a-umlaut) easily.
Hm, you are not me, but you feel about
evilwm like I do.
OTOH you're coming from fvwm, with which
I could never become friends. I used IceWM
a lot before, but didn't really like X and
didn't even consider it an xterm multiplexor
until some guy in #OpenBSD recommended evilwm
to me (I don't know any more who it was, I
think I'd kill him for making me, a console
fanatic, use X).
I even put evilwm into the "base system" of
the OpenBSD fork I maintain.
So you wouldn't have to install it manually,
and I needed to get a replacement for wm2 which
didn't compile cleanly after gcc 2->3.
Hi mickey!
You'd be surprised to hear how many people areconsidering BSD now. Even I was shocked to see :)
several people, including IBM's Almaden Research
Lab, and a bunch of japanese companies, downloading
my special flavour (MirBSD).
And many people in IRC get install help from me.
I feel I'll have a userbase larger than I can
cope with soon
They seem to spread well - this shows us that BSDisn't dead, in contrast to GNU (see the recent
discussion Debian vs GFDL).
Hint: http://MirBSD.BSDadvocacy.org/
I first evaluated IPv6 at home, with a 28k8 modem
and a tunnel broker. That was over three years ago.
Since a long time, we're using it in production,
with no problems whatsoever - except for most sites
and mail servers, and some IRC servers (freenode.net
being the good exception) we still need NAT on
IPv4 to access them.
Good news is that my IPv6 provider has a mail
server with relaying enabled for its own netblocks.
Noone has EVER told me I sound french.
This is an insult/offence with an impact I can't
put in words. The frenchmen are our enemy since,
well, long.
And wrt the rest of your comment: get a life.
I have enough free stuff, including an open
source operating system from Canada.
Yes, but I think they're all long dead, and I
have nothing to do with them.
What more counts is the current. And I see the
USA as a fascist country. Partially.
This doesn't mean I don't know any person who
lives over there and has a bit of a clue.
You can guess that I'm fairly anti-american, yes.
And this is serious.
I'm German.
:)
Actually, last time I set up an Outlook ExpreÃY
for a friend of mine, I was wondering what
"account" does mean on German. It took me a fair
amount of minutes.
I am explicitly against anglicisms in the German
language, and people know me as anti-USA, but I
think "use the right tool for the job" (yes, I'm
a BSD user...), so I don't have any German com-
puter programme any more except for WinZip, where
I have no crack for the English version
OTOH, I'm not using Windows for anything but
gaming any more, so I probably won't need it
anyways...
Do these damn US-Americans who still own most of
the free IPv4 addresses at least use IPv6-only
connectivity to those satelites, or are they using
up IPv4 addresses we in Europe or those over there
in Asia could need better?
Just wondering.