Since the site is slashdotted and I don't want to grep 980 comments for a mirror, and am too lazy to check google, only a short reply:
Why use metric at all? The only reason for the metric system, the imperial system and the baby- lonical time keeping system are history.
Men can calculate as well with sedecimal (base-16) numbers, and I found, where the average people can hold seven decimal numbers at once, they can hold seven up to eight sedecimal (or hexadecadic) numbers, too. (Sometimes the inserted alphabetical characters make some sense, that's why.) That I can hold eight at once while in the background there is some annoying music I found out yesterday while typing a kernel panic (BSD) message including ps and trace into my laptop.
because the k in geek-scientifical notation denotes the decimal point/dot (sorry, I don't know the exact English name for that), and so H2k2 translates to H2.2k = H2200
[ Mail me so I at least know who you are.
Fefe isn't, he doesn't read misc@;) ]
That SMP is only in that baaad state was not posted on misc@ since/when I read it. I only knew that it was existing and how it is being updated. However, there _is_ SMP.
And I know about the tries to load the crypto off to the second CPU, too.
And I never said that knowing C and KNF is _enough_ to make SMP working, but I told that it is at least needed... you know? That's what, in German Math class, is called "hinreichend" (like enough, may be too many) and "notwendig" (translates to necessary, but may not even be one percent of what really is needed...)
You understand what I mean? Else, please MAIL me and don't flame here.
You can checkout a copy of the OpenBSD tree for SMP with # cvs co -PrSMP src/sys (with appropiate CVSROOT)
I think it actually compiles and probably works on dual Pentium Pro systems, for example, but don't expect much stability.
CPU isn't such a big issue anyways, the RAM size _and_ speed are much more inte- resting with regards to unix-like OS, interesting enough this is valid for NT 5 a.k.a. Win2k, in contrast to Win9x, too.
The SMP support is not in the works because the developers are too busy doing other things (such as getting UBC to work...) - but if you have C skills and read the style(9) man page, your contributions will be welcome.
Re:The amount of CVS commits is impressive...
on
OpenBSD Hackathon
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You ought to check out the number of commits _before_ and _after_ the event, too. Sometimes it's only few, but it can be impressive, too.
For what it's worth, this was not much but a re-post of a mail from Theo de Raadt, the OpenBSD leader, to the "misc" mailing list.
The remaining few hackers were either representing OpenBSD (and BSD in general) at the German LinuxTag in Karlsruhe (Wim Vandeputte, the "leader" for Europe, and (more unknown) Christian Weisgerber and me...
And one was unable to get a passport from the French authorities - seems as they are jealous to the German bureaucracy;-)
I think March is over. I don't know how you get to August when you see a European-style (dd.mm.yyyy) date as opposed to an American-style (mm-dd-yyyy) or japanese-style (yy/mm/dd) Date...
Interesting, that, on the mailing lists, the question "Are we there yet?" has been answered with "yes, since some people have gotten the CDs, some mirrors the files and it has been on/. I think we _are_ there."
So, Slashdot seems to be a bit more current than the official announcements. Nice;-)
OTOH, I was running 3.1-current since shortly after unlocking of the tree, which is weeks ago.
Quoting from the article:
Counter-Strike war nach Erfurt in die Kritik geraten, weil der
19-jährige Schtze es angeblich vor seiner Tat gespielt haben soll.
So, why don't they forbid bread and water because he surely has eaten and drunk shortly before he went amok. Oh no, even _my_ gouvernment is gone mad these days.
Now, OpenBSD 3.2 has to do this step also. (Nice, we got new binutils - from 2.9 to 2.11.2)
I find this good because it disables more bloat in the base system. Removing sendmail and bind, however, I wouldn't be a friend of, because they are audited by the team (which cannot be solved this way by a port) and heavily used (I don't use bind - djbdns - but many people prefer an audited bind 4 over bind 9...)
I remember some months ago, uucp was made a port. The r-suite will also be available as a port.
FTP: I really hate this protocol, but it's still
standard and will be in years. RSH: Haven't ever used. Telnet: Uhm... let me say a bit more: you have to differentiate between the services (daemons) and the clients. Running telnetd is bad, and for the case spoken in some of the first posts, you can write a daemon using netcat in shell if you want, it takes ten lines or so. But the client is good for, for example, participiating in MUDs (I, however, use ssfe(1local) from the net/sirc port in combination with netcat), or to quickly test net services such as HTTP, SMTP, etc. or even chatting in IRC (not that this couldn't be entirely taken over by netcat, but no GNU OS I know of _has_ our (with IPv6) netcat).
The problem with all these sites is, that Slashdot is the only where Slashcode performs quite usable (i.e. several functions are missing in the versions used by other sites), and that only here a broad number of readers gets in touch with BSD. OTOH, wrt not _commenting_ BSD stories here (and not even reading the comments) is usually said ok, because nearly only trolls post. You are a noble exception.
Heck, if I could still moderate... (this being The Dark Side of slashdot)
What kind of CA administration package will you be documenting? I am running here just fine under OpenBSD, on a Pentium with 75 MHz and 32 MB RAM - no joke. And I am just using pure OpenSSL, nothing more, because it's so much easier than those CA front-ends.
If you want, I can send you some information about how I did this (chained CA structure).
Slashdot Mirror
Since the site is slashdotted and I don't want
to grep 980 comments for a mirror, and am too
lazy to check google, only a short reply:
Why use metric at all? The only reason for the
metric system, the imperial system and the baby-
lonical time keeping system are history.
Men can calculate as well with sedecimal (base-16)
numbers, and I found, where the average people can
hold seven decimal numbers at once, they can hold
seven up to eight sedecimal (or hexadecadic) numbers,
too. (Sometimes the inserted alphabetical characters
make some sense, that's why.)
That I can hold eight at once while in the background
there is some annoying music I found out yesterday while
typing a kernel panic (BSD) message including ps and trace
into my laptop.
Nonono, it must be "H2k+2", not H2K2,
because the k in geek-scientifical notation
denotes the decimal point/dot (sorry, I don't
know the exact English name for that), and
so H2k2 translates to H2.2k = H2200
H2002 would be H2k + 2, then, that's why.
Btw, OpenBSD c2k+2 made this wrong, too...
It's not "Geschlecht" what sex is intended to be ;-)
translated to...
As a German I have to laugh about this
Seems ya got me, troll!
Thank you anyways. If he seems to know me by mail, /. by ACs.
I'd rather dispute with him (whoever it is) by mail
instead of being accused of things on
And it's not _that_ off-topic, though...
I wonder whether this is really quality-checked,
and I guess, not.
Oh boy, we need a split "stable"/"testing" for
PHP on the BSD ports tree...
Yup... *hides*
but his name isn't read that often, my impression.
However, on news:de.comp.os.unix.bsd he is _the_
most helpful person wrt OpenBSD...
[ Mail me so I at least know who you are. ;) ]
Fefe isn't, he doesn't read misc@
That SMP is only in that baaad state was not
posted on misc@ since/when I read it. I only
knew that it was existing and how it is being
updated. However, there _is_ SMP.
And I know about the tries to load the crypto
off to the second CPU, too.
And I never said that knowing C and KNF is
_enough_ to make SMP working, but I told
that it is at least needed... you know?
That's what, in German Math class, is called
"hinreichend" (like enough, may be too many) and
"notwendig" (translates to necessary, but may
not even be one percent of what really is needed...)
You understand what I mean? Else, please MAIL
me and don't flame here.
hin and jsyn committed their pictures to the ;-)
CVS rep and you can get it for free
# cvs -qd anoncvs@<favourite mirrot> co -PA www
You can checkout a copy of the OpenBSD
tree for SMP with
# cvs co -PrSMP src/sys
(with appropiate CVSROOT)
I think it actually compiles and probably
works on dual Pentium Pro systems, for
example, but don't expect much stability.
CPU isn't such a big issue anyways, the
RAM size _and_ speed are much more inte-
resting with regards to unix-like OS,
interesting enough this is valid for
NT 5 a.k.a. Win2k, in contrast to Win9x,
too.
The SMP support is not in the works because
the developers are too busy doing other things
(such as getting UBC to work...) - but if you
have C skills and read the style(9) man page,
your contributions will be welcome.
You ought to check out the number of commits
_before_ and _after_ the event, too.
Sometimes it's only few, but it can be impressive,
too.
For what it's worth, this was not much but a re-post
;-)
of a mail from Theo de Raadt, the OpenBSD leader,
to the "misc" mailing list.
The remaining few hackers were either representing
OpenBSD (and BSD in general) at the German LinuxTag
in Karlsruhe (Wim Vandeputte, the "leader" for Europe,
and (more unknown) Christian Weisgerber and me...
And one was unable to get a passport from the
French authorities - seems as they are jealous
to the German bureaucracy
Get TortoiseCVS (google helps, I don't have the
home page handy), PuTTY and plink; it works like
a charm for me.
NetBSD ported to another architecture, News at eleven
I got this error with no .cvspass file, it ought .cvspass
to be created by cvs I think, but anyways:
$ touch
works.
I think March is over. I don't know how you
get to August when you see a European-style
(dd.mm.yyyy) date as opposed to an
American-style (mm-dd-yyyy) or japanese-style
(yy/mm/dd) Date...
OpenBSD at least even tries to fix up IRQ
routing due to several "broken BIOS" issues...
sed s/BSD/Linux/
EOF
# Please fill in the actual text, thanks.
Interesting, that, on the mailing lists, /. I think we _are_ there."
;-)
the question "Are we there yet?" has been
answered with "yes, since some people have
gotten the CDs, some mirrors the files and
it has been on
So, Slashdot seems to be a bit more current
than the official announcements. Nice
OTOH, I was running 3.1-current since shortly
after unlocking of the tree, which is weeks ago.
Multiple exclamation marks are a safe sign
of a queer mind (or so, I don't have the
exact quote on English handy).
Even if your shift key doesn't prell (as you
proved), this is queer. Go die, elsewhere.
Quoting from the article:
Counter-Strike war nach Erfurt in die Kritik geraten, weil der
19-jährige Schtze es angeblich vor seiner Tat gespielt haben soll.
So, why don't they forbid bread and water because
he surely has eaten and drunk shortly before he went amok.
Oh no, even _my_ gouvernment is gone mad these days.
Is it really _so_ difficult to spell out /. here...
privsep correctly? OMG, I'm on
Now, OpenBSD 3.2 has to do this step also.
(Nice, we got new binutils - from 2.9 to 2.11.2)
I find this good because it disables more bloat
in the base system. Removing sendmail and bind,
however, I wouldn't be a friend of, because they
are audited by the team (which cannot be solved
this way by a port) and heavily used (I don't
use bind - djbdns - but many people prefer an
audited bind 4 over bind 9...)
I remember some months ago, uucp was made a port.
The r-suite will also be available as a port.
FTP: I really hate this protocol, but it's still
standard and will be in years.
RSH: Haven't ever used.
Telnet: Uhm... let me say a bit more:
you have to differentiate between the services
(daemons) and the clients. Running telnetd is
bad, and for the case spoken in some of the
first posts, you can write a daemon using
netcat in shell if you want, it takes ten lines or so.
But the client is good for, for example, participiating
in MUDs (I, however, use ssfe(1local) from the net/sirc
port in combination with netcat), or to quickly test
net services such as HTTP, SMTP, etc. or even chatting
in IRC (not that this couldn't be entirely taken over
by netcat, but no GNU OS I know of _has_ our (with IPv6)
netcat).
The problem with all these sites is,
that Slashdot is the only where Slashcode
performs quite usable (i.e. several functions
are missing in the versions used by other sites),
and that only here a broad number of readers
gets in touch with BSD.
OTOH, wrt not _commenting_ BSD stories here (and
not even reading the comments) is usually said ok,
because nearly only trolls post.
You are a noble exception.
Heck, if I could still moderate... (this being
The Dark Side of slashdot)
What kind of CA administration package will you
be documenting?
I am running here just fine under OpenBSD, on
a Pentium with 75 MHz and 32 MB RAM - no joke.
And I am just using pure OpenSSL, nothing more,
because it's so much easier than those CA
front-ends.
If you want, I can send you some information
about how I did this (chained CA structure).