This is a Bad Thing. Think about the bars and restaurants that rely on alcohol sales to make their money. A majority of these places are small businesses. Most bartenders would be out of a job, and it would be awfully hard for clubs to pull a crowd without booze. This could easily kill a city's downtown area if it was anchored by bars and restaurants. Bad for tourism too.
I'd like you to know that just by saying the magic words, "Your analogy is flawed", doesn't mean that his analogy is flawed. Funny how that works, eh? But, going over your previous posts, I see you like to do stuff like that. Anyhow, let's see if I can scale this down to something that you can digest.
You do not "own" GPL code when you integrate it into your own product. You are effectively leasing it from its "owner", whether that be FSF or someone else. The "owner" is kind enough to lease to you the right to utilize that code for the payment of publicly disclosing the changes you make to the code.
That is your rent. Everyone who uses GPL'ed code must pay the rent.
You did not pay cash for the GPL'ed code. There is no way to pay cash for the GPL'ed code. The only payment that is acceptable and requested is if you make publicly available the changes you make to the GPL'ed code.
Let's go back to the rent analogy. You seem very interested in somehow making real property rights the same as intellectual property rights. For the record, these are very different things. There are very different ways of dealing with real and intellectual property rights. But just for now, since you can't grasp that, let's try to make this easier for you to understand.
Say you'd really like to use a new delivery van for your e-commerce business. You can either buy a delivery van named "IIS" for a sum of money. That is not appealing to you. You notice in the newspaper an ad for another van. Let's name the model of the van APACHE. You go to check it out, and the owner says that you can use the van as much as you'd like for free. The only request is that if you make any modifications to the van, that you share those modifications with the public. Now, if you change the van from 2-wheel drive to 4-wheel drive, you will have to show how you did that to the owner of the van, and probably anyone else who wants to see. That is the term of the agreement. No one twisted your arm to take the Apache van, because there's a perfectly good IIS van around the corner. If you don't let the owner know about those changes, he has the right to take the van away from you, and charge you for violating the license. That is part of the contract. Since you agreed to the contract, you have no right to utilize the software in a way that goes against the contract.
Here's a common example of how this works: If you rent a car, and the rental agreement says that the car must stay in the US, you can not bring the car out of the US. If you bring the car out of the US, you have breeched the agreeement you entered with the rental company, and they can request monetary damages from you.
Is this any different than taking Wordperfect or whatever and installing it on more computers than you have licenses for? No. You've violated the license agreement, and the company has every right to go after you. It's the same thing here.
Don't these directors have buttloads of money? Are they stupid enough to sign a contract that prevents them from starting their own studios, associations, and whatnot?
Seems to me if the MPAA totally ignored me, I'd get pretty pissed and tell them to fuck off. Maybe if they really had balls, they'd strike.
Try having a protest at a mall. See how long that lasts! Call up your municipal government, and ask them for a permit to demonstrate outside Old Navy in the mall.
What if the mall was publicly owned, like Fremont stret in vegas?
"Just because some property is publicly owned doesn't make it a public forum," says Todd Bice, the LLC's attorney.source
Indeed, the LLC is a private managment company managing Fremont Street in Vegas. It is a public street, yet, when control of the street is handed to a private organization, all of a sudden, one can't protest, post flyers, or pass out handbills. Eventually someone complained, and Nevada ruled that free speech activities must be allowed in the street, but it is impossible to get a permit for certain types of organizations. (NORML, ACLU, etc) If these are the rights you have on a public street, imagine what rights you have in a stinking mall.
Indeed, sir, you are right. The Euro uses a difficult system of numbers to show denomination. Euro bills are also used dramatically different. Unlike the old currencies, which involved giving paper money and coins to a cashier for goods and services, now you give Euro paper money and Euro coins to a cashier for goods and services. Totally different, indeed. No wonder they had to educate everyone.
No, it's not. Informative doesn't say anything about it providing NEW information. If I say "My dog is black all over." That statement is informative. it is providing information about my dog. Then, 5 minutes later, I say "My dog's tail is black", have I provided you with information again?
[Italian, pl. of broccolo, flowering sprout of a turnip diminutive of brocco, shoot, sprout, from Vulgar Latin *brocca, spike. See brocade.]
Sorry, it's either Italian or Latin. Not English. Another part of what makes this country great is making fun of people who don't even know what words are in their own language.
Do you really think BillG ever pays for advertisement like that? Nope, the company does it for him because if they don't, all of a sudden their super-secret discount goes up in smoke. Get real.
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Oh, this cursed OGRABME!
This is a Bad Thing. Think about the bars and restaurants that rely on alcohol sales to make their money. A majority of these places are small businesses. Most bartenders would be out of a job, and it would be awfully hard for clubs to pull a crowd without booze. This could easily kill a city's downtown area if it was anchored by bars and restaurants. Bad for tourism too.
Iraq II is about money? You've been fooled by Bush & Co. pretty easily. Remember, Rumsfeld defends this fanatic.
What about that Gerhard Schroeder? Germany is known for harboring nazis at one point. Everything he says must be antisemitic! Nice logic, deek.
The van was named APACHE. I wasn't talking about a web server. :)
I'd like you to know that just by saying the magic words, "Your analogy is flawed", doesn't mean that his analogy is flawed. Funny how that works, eh? But, going over your previous posts, I see you like to do stuff like that. Anyhow, let's see if I can scale this down to something that you can digest.
You do not "own" GPL code when you integrate it into your own product. You are effectively leasing it from its "owner", whether that be FSF or someone else. The "owner" is kind enough to lease to you the right to utilize that code for the payment of publicly disclosing the changes you make to the code.
That is your rent. Everyone who uses GPL'ed code must pay the rent.
You did not pay cash for the GPL'ed code. There is no way to pay cash for the GPL'ed code. The only payment that is acceptable and requested is if you make publicly available the changes you make to the GPL'ed code.
Let's go back to the rent analogy. You seem very interested in somehow making real property rights the same as intellectual property rights. For the record, these are very different things. There are very different ways of dealing with real and intellectual property rights. But just for now, since you can't grasp that, let's try to make this easier for you to understand.
Say you'd really like to use a new delivery van for your e-commerce business. You can either buy a delivery van named "IIS" for a sum of money. That is not appealing to you. You notice in the newspaper an ad for another van. Let's name the model of the van APACHE. You go to check it out, and the owner says that you can use the van as much as you'd like for free. The only request is that if you make any modifications to the van, that you share those modifications with the public. Now, if you change the van from 2-wheel drive to 4-wheel drive, you will have to show how you did that to the owner of the van, and probably anyone else who wants to see. That is the term of the agreement. No one twisted your arm to take the Apache van, because there's a perfectly good IIS van around the corner. If you don't let the owner know about those changes, he has the right to take the van away from you, and charge you for violating the license. That is part of the contract. Since you agreed to the contract, you have no right to utilize the software in a way that goes against the contract.
Here's a common example of how this works: If you rent a car, and the rental agreement says that the car must stay in the US, you can not bring the car out of the US. If you bring the car out of the US, you have breeched the agreeement you entered with the rental company, and they can request monetary damages from you.
Is this any different than taking Wordperfect or whatever and installing it on more computers than you have licenses for? No. You've violated the license agreement, and the company has every right to go after you. It's the same thing here.
Don't these directors have buttloads of money? Are they stupid enough to sign a contract that prevents them from starting their own studios, associations, and whatnot?
Seems to me if the MPAA totally ignored me, I'd get pretty pissed and tell them to fuck off. Maybe if they really had balls, they'd strike.
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kmplayer obscurequicktimefile.avi
god, that was so hard.
NO THEY ARE NOT.
Please, let me tell you this again.
MALLS ARE NOT PUBLIC PROPERTY.
Try having a protest at a mall. See how long that lasts! Call up your municipal government, and ask them for a permit to demonstrate outside Old Navy in the mall.
What if the mall was publicly owned, like Fremont stret in vegas?
"Just because some property is publicly owned doesn't make it a public forum," says Todd Bice, the LLC's attorney. source
Indeed, the LLC is a private managment company managing Fremont Street in Vegas. It is a public street, yet, when control of the street is handed to a private organization, all of a sudden, one can't protest, post flyers, or pass out handbills. Eventually someone complained, and Nevada ruled that free speech activities must be allowed in the street, but it is impossible to get a permit for certain types of organizations. (NORML, ACLU, etc) If these are the rights you have on a public street, imagine what rights you have in a stinking mall.
Indeed, sir, you are right. The Euro uses a difficult system of numbers to show denomination. Euro bills are also used dramatically different. Unlike the old currencies, which involved giving paper money and coins to a cashier for goods and services, now you give Euro paper money and Euro coins to a cashier for goods and services. Totally different, indeed. No wonder they had to educate everyone.
God damnit, I need to learn how to read.
He's talking about any client that uses DNS, not just Web Browsers.
You may also want to recall that most of the Internet's users are in the US.
Trust me, you're not losing anything.
Where do you think the bulk of your domain registration fees go to?
It took me a few days to realize my thinkpad has the light, but it is the coolest thing I have ever seen.
What stops you from working whenever you have time if you're paid on a contingency (instead of hourly) basis?
No, it's not. Informative doesn't say anything about it providing NEW information. If I say "My dog is black all over." That statement is informative. it is providing information about my dog. Then, 5 minutes later, I say "My dog's tail is black", have I provided you with information again?
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that wasn't so hard, use your imagination!
You can have more than one kernel on your system.
I wasn't aware that you had set the definition for informative. Let me give Mr. Dictionary.com a call and see if he concurs with you:
informative (n-form-tv) adj.
Serving to inform; providing or disclosing information; instructive.
The OP informed us that his Cingular GSM phone worked. Whether that is relevant, on topic, or even true can be debated someplace else.
[Italian, pl. of broccolo, flowering sprout of a turnip diminutive of brocco, shoot, sprout, from Vulgar Latin *brocca, spike. See brocade.]
Sorry, it's either Italian or Latin. Not English. Another part of what makes this country great is making fun of people who don't even know what words are in their own language.
The jerk store called, they're all out of you!
Do you really think BillG ever pays for advertisement like that? Nope, the company does it for him because if they don't, all of a sudden their super-secret discount goes up in smoke. Get real.
Are you equating communism with anti-american? I don't see how Hatch is a commie. Stop using that word, you sound like some gibbering idiot.