I very much like your ideas. Personally I have become a bleeding heart liberal over the years, and your statement just confirms that =)
I think you really have something here. I do not believe there naturally evil people in the world. I think there are people who have been acting evil for so long they can't be helped. I think there are people who are so far gone they are hopeless. But I do believe that these are not "naturally" evil people. They are people with a tendency toward the dark (like Skywalker) who as a result of that tendency, make some bad choices and walked a dark path for a while. But even Vegeta (dragonballZ) was redeemed.
I think you are dead on with the "concervatives" view of right and wrong. That is Pres Bush all the way.
As a side note, I don't think the other guy that posted was trying to piss you off. He just seemed to be picking a point as to WHY liberals try to figure out the cause of people actions. I think this is a small diff with your theory. I think for the most part he was agreeing with you. He unfortunetely picked a rather touchy example to make his point, but I don't think the intent was to offend.
I have to say, I wish I had more conservative friends who really thought about all this, and could make a non emotional statement like you did.
One thing I would differ on is a change I think I'm seeing in the Rebublican Party. ( a "slightly" different group than the "conservatives").
While before in their effort to look for reasons, liberals tend to be labeled as more emotional. I think the Republicans saw value in this. So while they are the party of "right & wrong, black & white" they have a tendancy these days to then become very emotional about their choice. All the yelling and vocal outbursts you see on FOX and MSNBC.
I think this is very very smart on their part. They are holding true to the good vs evil movement, but are making emotional cases as well to bring over voters.
This is a change from before the Regan erra. The Republicans are playing much much tougher baseball now.
While I can't say where, I have seen 10Gbps ethernet running at full line rate on a 16lane PCI Express card.
All I can say is WOW. It was quite amazing. However, we are a long way off from seeing normal usage.
10Gbps is really only needed for areas where data merges. For example, would you rathat have 10 interfances bounded together? Or just have one? 10Gbps will take off from a ease of management and port desity.
So for the most part we are just talking about telcom, banks, government, and brocast groups.
It will be a long time before you will see/need this in your PC or laptop.
On the telcome side, I can tell you that I know of several companies working very hard to start shipping these products in volume due to pressure from the telcoms and their customers.
This is not easy, simple, or cheap for apple. The storage and bandwidth costs are HUGE. Then there are all the people involved. This is a huge operation, with many steps. Did you know apple supplies software to the record companies to create the AAP files? Did you know those songs when they come back go through 3 levels of QA before being released? (they have funny names too, "scrubbers" and "polishers" I think are two of them).
This is a huge cost to apple. $.10 cents per song barely covers it. This is why so many songs must be sold to make any real money.
Most of the money is made off of Ipods (3million sold) not the content.
Now I do agree that iTunes does't really help the artists a whole lot, as they still get bent over by the record companies. But hopefull more artists will start publishing straight to iTunes and can get a better deal? Well one can hope =)
And lets face it, it's not like Sting is hurting for money;-)
What I was trying to say is that odd releases are often when new features/ideas are added. Why I listed them as test/play releases. And then the next even release is when more people jump on board and support/take advantage of it.
but in my limited experience I have never been able to do a full site upgrade to the odd version. I've usually had to wait for the even release for everyone to "bless" their code/products.
which has never bothered me as it's a lot of work for me as well. So I prefer to only upgrade everyone on the even releases.
Don't get me wrong, I have systems running 5.9, but nothing with critial apps.
5.6 stable we all used it. 5.7 we played with, tested 5.8 we all upgraded to, used, liked. 5.9 play with and test 5.10 upgrade and enjoy.
most oracle products for example will never be certified on 5.9. It's too much work to requalify and upgrade to a new solaris version. So the odds introduce new features and work out the bugs, and the evens is what we use.
To land TWO safely and are target. Hats off. More importantly you have once again made the world look up, which we need so much now that shuttle flights don't make new unless something horrible happens.
And I must say, I tip my hat to your personally for being brave enough to post on/. =)
It's not every day you get to write code and develope systems that make history.
I would like to say that I'm above all that, but I have to admit I do harbor resentment against SCO and anyone who works there.
Anyone who did not quit after the lawsuites began, who stayed and is staying through this attack on the open source community will have a hard time finding a job with me or any company I work for if I can a say in it.
By not quitting, they are in effect supporting and endorcing SCO's activities. And I don't want to work with or for people like that.
This is not like Enron, many people at Enron were not aware. At SCO, everyone working there now knows the evil deeds they support by staying with SCO.
While it will take time for places like China to really catch up with us, it's not as long as some might think.
The US space program is a MESS. Shuttle launches aren't even news worthy anymore unless they blow up. (no offense intended, those who died are still heroes in my mind). But without a challenge, our space program will continue to lag.
We need more countries like China to catch up. We need someone to out pace us and kick start the US interest in space.
Hopefull this will be the first step.....or we could tell Bush there is oil on Mars =)
When I first got into *nix it was on Irix and SunOS. As the years went on more and more functionality came out of Sun. True DR for example, clustering. But I always heard grumbling from the mainframe guys "oh we had that, oh we had a much better version of that, oh we had that 10yrs ago". "you opensystems guys just don't get it"
And for the most part they were right.
Solaris today is a very nice full feature operating system. I run all of manufacturing for a large plant on a small number of Sun boxes. And in many cases for 4+cpu with apps that must scale vertically (unless you want to run RAC for example) Sun makes some nice stuff. (Yes I help pay for Uncle Larry's jet)
I started using Linux a little late, around 96. It's a nice OS, making great progress. But once again everyone spinning their wheels trying to get the functionality of Solaris and other mature OS's running in linux. With some new very cool stuff I'll agree. But once again, we are rebuilding what we have.
See the cycle?
I run solaris, openbsd and linux. All have nice stuff. But when it comes to high volume manufacturing, I love my sunfire 6800.
If I have to dump Sun for anything, it will be a 32proc G5 running OSX =)
I have a 8.8TB (raw) EMC Symm here, and another one in Austin TX. Then I have another 600GB or so in Sun jbod. Most hosts are connected to the EMC over a 2Gb SAN using brocades.
I just got this environment a couple weeks ago, and there was NO documentation. So figuring out disk usage over 15 systems has been a nightmare.
As much as I hate to admit it, EMC's ECC and Storage Scope have been a huge help. I could have done it using Veritas as well, but the EMC tools are nice.
And I'm soon going to add another 2TB SATA array over iSCSI so then we'll see if ECC can really manage "other peoples disk":)
But welcome to the new exciting field of Storage/SAN architect/admin. With arrays from HDS and EMC coming in the 46TB flavor and more, resorce management is a big job.
For instance my counterpart (he handles windows, I handle *nix) found that we had 1.2TB of unused BCV's (it's a 3rd mirror, weird EMC'izm) that had never been used!
So it's all about documentation. And do yourself a huge favor, and come up with a clean scalable disk/lun/volume/mountpoint naming convention. This can be so critical. Not sure what other people do, but I'll have something like:
volumes are v{dg}{v#} so first volume for disk group dg006 would be v1601.
Then mount points are based on either oracle{SID} or port, or app name or something logical.
Keep everything unique! So then you can move luns form host to host without having issues. This also allows you to generate usage reports and know that if v3206 is at 68% exactly what host, disk group, volume, and app are involved.
Ug, sorry, went off, but I'm in this mess right now myself and so I have some very strong feelings about it right now =)
Please explain to me why you think the X-Box is a better console than the PS2?
I have friends who develope for all three platforms, and from what I hear, and what I've seen there is a good reason for the xbox sales numbers.
But I honestly would like to hear another opinion...not just trying to pic a fight. Do you have hard reasons for prefering the xbox or do you just like it better?
I do agree it could have looked better, but seeing the whole story rendered using the game engine gave the game a solid look and feel. Kept the atmosphere solid and was just plain fun.
I think it was one of the best games in a while. Just fun.
If I were to pick at anthing it would be the fight engine and controls, NOT the looks.
This is just getting out of control. When are execs going to realize that eng are not like running water or heating!?!?!? We ARE the company. We ARE the product. Not to understand the importance of marketing and sales, but people poor their hearts into this code. Their personalities come out in these projects. This is like a racing team firing drivers after they win a race. "Oh a driver is a driver, if we do another race we'll just hire another driver, his skills and experience didn't really impact this victory" INSANITY!
Not to mention that many of us "gamers" and also engineers. And I for one will do everything I can to NOT pay for this title. I don't want that company making ONE DIME off the dedicated work of a buch of coders and designers they cut.
This is just total BS and I hope they burn for it.
sorry
This really doesn't make sense....
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The reason Ellen and her gang couldn't keep this running seemed to be they kept building new data centers. Capital costs were HUGE.
But C&W bought exodus. After the fallout. For very very cheap.
How could they not make a profit off this? Is maintaince costs still so high even with no expansion? They were CLOSING data centers not buiding them.
This worries me, because if after the initial build up is done, you still can't make money off a colo then that means prices are WAY too low and for the 2 or 3 colo's left, we are going to see prices sky-rocket to come up to meet expenses.
Who are the lawyers for SCO? Who's funding this?
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SCO SCO SCO!
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Lets think about this. If you look at the history of that last major UNIX legal battle ( I highly recommend reading http://opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html )
it's quite obvious this is going to be a very long drawn out ugly deal. How is SCO going to pay for it? This could honestly take years. Who's helping them? Are the lawyers employees or are they hired? Are they just working on the chance of a big payout?
This is the worlds biggest and most expensive poker game. Someone is bankrolling the players, and I don't think it's just Microsoft.
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I very much like your ideas. Personally I have become a bleeding heart liberal over the years, and your statement just confirms that =)
I think you really have something here. I do not believe there naturally evil people in the world. I think there are people who have been acting evil for so long they can't be helped. I think there are people who are so far gone they are hopeless. But I do believe that these are not "naturally" evil people. They are people with a tendency toward the dark (like Skywalker) who as a result of that tendency, make some bad choices and walked a dark path for a while. But even Vegeta (dragonballZ) was redeemed.
I think you are dead on with the "concervatives" view of right and wrong. That is Pres Bush all the way.
As a side note, I don't think the other guy that posted was trying to piss you off. He just seemed to be picking a point as to WHY liberals try to figure out the cause of people actions. I think this is a small diff with your theory. I think for the most part he was agreeing with you. He unfortunetely picked a rather touchy example to make his point, but I don't think the intent was to offend.
I have to say, I wish I had more conservative friends who really thought about all this, and could make a non emotional statement like you did.
One thing I would differ on is a change I think I'm seeing in the Rebublican Party. ( a "slightly" different group than the "conservatives").
While before in their effort to look for reasons, liberals tend to be labeled as more emotional. I think the Republicans saw value in this. So while they are the party of "right & wrong, black & white" they have a tendancy these days to then become very emotional about their choice. All the yelling and vocal outbursts you see on FOX and MSNBC.
I think this is very very smart on their part. They are holding true to the good vs evil movement, but are making emotional cases as well to bring over voters.
This is a change from before the Regan erra. The Republicans are playing much much tougher baseball now.
It's going to be an interesting year =)
while building a new SAN in an old segate factory.
Imagine, Fresno (for the CA folk) but in the middle of a 3rd world rain forest.
While Kuala Lumpur is a great city. Ipoh is about 3hrs outside in the middle of freaking no ware. It's a freaking dump
While I can't say where, I have seen 10Gbps ethernet running at full line rate on a 16lane PCI Express card.
All I can say is WOW. It was quite amazing. However, we are a long way off from seeing normal usage.
10Gbps is really only needed for areas where data merges. For example, would you rathat have 10 interfances bounded together? Or just have one? 10Gbps will take off from a ease of management and port desity.
So for the most part we are just talking about telcom, banks, government, and brocast groups.
It will be a long time before you will see/need this in your PC or laptop.
On the telcome side, I can tell you that I know of several companies working very hard to start shipping these products in volume due to pressure from the telcoms and their customers.
There is demand for this, and it's growing.
This is not easy, simple, or cheap for apple. The storage and bandwidth costs are HUGE. Then there are all the people involved. This is a huge operation, with many steps. Did you know apple supplies software to the record companies to create the AAP files? Did you know those songs when they come back go through 3 levels of QA before being released? (they have funny names too, "scrubbers" and "polishers" I think are two of them).
This is a huge cost to apple. $.10 cents per song barely covers it. This is why so many songs must be sold to make any real money.
Most of the money is made off of Ipods (3million sold) not the content.
Now I do agree that iTunes does't really help the artists a whole lot, as they still get bent over by the record companies. But hopefull more artists will start publishing straight to iTunes and can get a better deal? Well one can hope =)
And lets face it, it's not like Sting is hurting for money
Surveyor with the THG is quite impressive. Not as many decodes as ethereal, but line rate gig is nice.
What I was trying to say is that odd releases are often when new features/ideas are added. Why I listed them as test/play releases. And then the next even release is when more people jump on board and support/take advantage of it.
but in my limited experience I have never been able to do a full site upgrade to the odd version. I've usually had to wait for the even release for everyone to "bless" their code/products.
which has never bothered me as it's a lot of work for me as well. So I prefer to only upgrade everyone on the even releases.
Don't get me wrong, I have systems running 5.9, but nothing with critial apps.
think of it like odd linux kernels.
5.6 stable we all used it.
5.7 we played with, tested
5.8 we all upgraded to, used, liked.
5.9 play with and test
5.10 upgrade and enjoy.
most oracle products for example will never be certified on 5.9. It's too much work to requalify and upgrade to a new solaris version. So the odds introduce new features and work out the bugs, and the evens is what we use.
Has some cool features. Once apps (oracle etc) get "blessed" it will be nice to have a new core OS to go to since no one will support 5.9.
If for no other reason than getting away from a 101.5MB recommended patch cluster.
There are a lot of cool new commands for kernel info. There is also a performance increase depending on which cpus you are running.
To land TWO safely and are target. Hats off. More importantly you have once again made the world look up, which we need so much now that shuttle flights don't make new unless something horrible happens.
And I must say, I tip my hat to your personally for being brave enough to post on
It's not every day you get to write code and develope systems that make history.
We don't run a lot of linux boxes, maybe 12 total. This is a heavy microsoft shop except for the Solaris/Oracle backend on the SAN.
I have enough trouble keeping the linux boxes around as it is, they are always looking for reasons to remove them.
Now I have to either ask for money (not going to happen) or rebuild all the boxes using a new distro.
Either option will make Linux look bad to may management and really hurt my chances of expanding linux at my company.
Very sad.
I would like to say that I'm above all that, but I have to admit I do harbor resentment against SCO and anyone who works there.
Anyone who did not quit after the lawsuites began, who stayed and is staying through this attack on the open source community will have a hard time finding a job with me or any company I work for if I can a say in it.
By not quitting, they are in effect supporting and endorcing SCO's activities. And I don't want to work with or for people like that.
This is not like Enron, many people at Enron were not aware. At SCO, everyone working there now knows the evil deeds they support by staying with SCO.
Oh, I totally agree. One could even argue the ones who do it now are even bigger heroes =)
How can we finally kill this thing? I'm getting so sick of all this!
While it will take time for places like China to really catch up with us, it's not as long as some might think.
The US space program is a MESS. Shuttle launches aren't even news worthy anymore unless they blow up. (no offense intended, those who died are still heroes in my mind). But without a challenge, our space program will continue to lag.
We need more countries like China to catch up. We need someone to out pace us and kick start the US interest in space.
Hopefull this will be the first step.
and I don't get a free upgrade?!?!?!!?
very lame.
When I first got into *nix it was on Irix and SunOS. As the years went on more and more functionality came out of Sun. True DR for example, clustering. But I always heard grumbling from the mainframe guys "oh we had that, oh we had a much better version of that, oh we had that 10yrs ago". "you opensystems guys just don't get it"
And for the most part they were right.
Solaris today is a very nice full feature operating system. I run all of manufacturing for a large plant on a small number of Sun boxes. And in many cases for 4+cpu with apps that must scale vertically (unless you want to run RAC for example) Sun makes some nice stuff. (Yes I help pay for Uncle Larry's jet)
I started using Linux a little late, around 96. It's a nice OS, making great progress. But once again everyone spinning their wheels trying to get the functionality of Solaris and other mature OS's running in linux. With some new very cool stuff I'll agree. But once again, we are rebuilding what we have.
See the cycle?
I run solaris, openbsd and linux. All have nice stuff. But when it comes to high volume manufacturing, I love my sunfire 6800.
If I have to dump Sun for anything, it will be a 32proc G5 running OSX =)
I read on bugtraq that one of the anonymous sites had to change the client after federal pressure to provide a back door.
Could this be related? Could M$FT be making some changes for "Patriot Act" related requests that makes 3rd party clients incompatable?
Or am I just getting really paranoid =)
I have a 8.8TB (raw) EMC Symm here, and another one in Austin TX. Then I have another 600GB or so in Sun jbod. Most hosts are connected to the EMC over a 2Gb SAN using brocades.
I just got this environment a couple weeks ago, and there was NO documentation. So figuring out disk usage over 15 systems has been a nightmare.
As much as I hate to admit it, EMC's ECC and Storage Scope have been a huge help. I could have done it using Veritas as well, but the EMC tools are nice.
And I'm soon going to add another 2TB SATA array over iSCSI so then we'll see if ECC can really manage "other peoples disk"
But welcome to the new exciting field of Storage/SAN architect/admin. With arrays from HDS and EMC coming in the 46TB flavor and more, resorce management is a big job.
For instance my counterpart (he handles windows, I handle *nix) found that we had 1.2TB of unused BCV's (it's a 3rd mirror, weird EMC'izm) that had never been used!
So it's all about documentation. And do yourself a huge favor, and come up with a clean scalable disk/lun/volume/mountpoint naming convention. This can be so critical. Not sure what other people do, but I'll have something like:
host 1: dg001-dg005
host 2: dg006-dg010
host 3: dg011-dg015
the disks are enclosure_name_id_lun#
volumes are v{dg}{v#} so first volume for disk group dg006 would be v1601.
Then mount points are based on either oracle{SID} or port, or app name or something logical.
Keep everything unique! So then you can move luns form host to host without having issues. This also allows you to generate usage reports and know that if v3206 is at 68% exactly what host, disk group, volume, and app are involved.
Ug, sorry, went off, but I'm in this mess right now myself and so I have some very strong feelings about it right now =)
Please explain to me why you think the X-Box is a better console than the PS2?
I have friends who develope for all three platforms, and from what I hear, and what I've seen there is a good reason for the xbox sales numbers.
But I honestly would like to hear another opinion...not just trying to pic a fight. Do you have hard reasons for prefering the xbox or do you just like it better?
I do agree it could have looked better, but seeing the whole story rendered using the game engine gave the game a solid look and feel. Kept the atmosphere solid and was just plain fun.
I think it was one of the best games in a while. Just fun.
If I were to pick at anthing it would be the fight engine and controls, NOT the looks.
Just my 2bits =)
Des
It was awesome. She'd ASK to play video games when she got home. It was a lot of fun for both of us.
GREAT GAME!
Can't wait for the next one.
This is just getting out of control. When are execs going to realize that eng are not like running water or heating!?!?!? We ARE the company. We ARE the product. Not to understand the importance of marketing and sales, but people poor their hearts into this code. Their personalities come out in these projects. This is like a racing team firing drivers after they win a race. "Oh a driver is a driver, if we do another race we'll just hire another driver, his skills and experience didn't really impact this victory" INSANITY!
Not to mention that many of us "gamers" and also engineers. And I for one will do everything I can to NOT pay for this title. I don't want that company making ONE DIME off the dedicated work of a buch of coders and designers they cut.
This is just total BS and I hope they burn for it.
sorry
The reason Ellen and her gang couldn't keep this running seemed to be they kept building new data centers. Capital costs were HUGE.
But C&W bought exodus. After the fallout. For very very cheap.
How could they not make a profit off this? Is maintaince costs still so high even with no expansion? They were CLOSING data centers not buiding them.
This worries me, because if after the initial build up is done, you still can't make money off a colo then that means prices are WAY too low and for the 2 or 3 colo's left, we are going to see prices sky-rocket to come up to meet expenses.
Sad day.
memory intesive as my app servers?
ug, no thanks.
Lets think about this. If you look at the history of that last major UNIX legal battle ( I highly recommend reading http://opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html )
it's quite obvious this is going to be a very long drawn out ugly deal. How is SCO going to pay for it? This could honestly take years. Who's helping them? Are the lawyers employees or are they hired? Are they just working on the chance of a big payout?
This is the worlds biggest and most expensive poker game. Someone is bankrolling the players, and I don't think it's just Microsoft.