Pardon me for starting this great proposal this way as it might surprise you. My name is Yuvraj Kailash a native of Nepal and attorney to the late king of Nepal who died as a result of loss in temper caused by an argument between him and his family, as they were against him marrying his fiancée.You were recommended by a close confidant. Who assured us of your capability and reliability to assist us. We seek the assistance of someone who is genuinely interested in entering into a business relationship with long term focus, and willingness of a kind heart to help.
If you are conversant with events in Nepal in May/June last year 2001, (June 1 2001), the media was filled with reports that Crown Prince Dipendra of Nepal had shot and killed several members of the Nepalese Royal Family, among whom were his parents King Birenda and Queen Aiswarya, before trying to kill himself.
Prior to the late kings death (Prince Dipendra), he kept aside a secret amount of money, for his fiancée (Miss Divyani Rana) worth over US$30,000,000.00(Thirty million United States Dollars). This was made in the heat of misunderstanding between him and members of his family. The money was kept away in such a way to prevent any member of his family from having any access or trace to the funds, which was just a part of his wealth, this was like a gift to his fiancée and a further affirmation to her that he was surly going to marry her, even though, his family was against their marriage. We have kept this a secret for sometime now and feel this is the right time to execute this transaction.
The death of my late boss, left us stranded, we have therefore been searching for a genuine and reliable person or company of trust and with whom the Nepalese Royal Family have never had any previous, personal or business relationship with. That person will assist in the transfer and business re-investment of this money. We cannot do it alone due to our present social status. We also intend to give you a reasonable share of the funds for your assistance. These funds have been hidden away, known only to his fiancée and myself. We would want you to safeguard this fund from being clamped down by any body or agencies.
As soon as we receive your letter of acceptance/acknowledgement, I shall give you more highlights on this transaction.
THIS IS A RISK FREE TRANSACTION AND MUST NOT BE REVILED TO ANYONE NOT EVEN YOUR LAWYER, ATTORNEY, FAMILY, FRIENDS ETC. If you are capable and trust worthy and can keep to our instructions to make the above Proposal a reality. Then CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY ONLY THROUGH OUR CONFIDENTIAL U.K FAX NUMBER: 44-870-1309342 AS INDICATED ABOVE
DO NOT REPLY US BY EMAIL. Please indicate in your reply your PERSONAL/CONFIDENTIAL TELEPHONE NUMBERS, CELLULAR OR MOBILE NUMBER, CONFIDENTIAL FAX NUMBER AND YOUR CONFIDENTIAL EMAIL ADDRESS when replying.
ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE DO NOT REPLY BY EMAIL. Your Reply Should be by Fax only to 44-870-1309342 (United kingdom)
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Now I know yer just pumping Opera as a web "browsing" purist. But your are distinctly fooled if you think for a second that web "browsing" does not include the constant use of web applications . Wow.. Slashdot is one such beast.
Web applications are the future of the web and "browsing" and web "browsers" need to have the hooks and the smarts to make it a reality.
So my question is, would you rather have a "browser" tha implements this in an open way, or one that seizes the openess and hooks that into the damn shell of the OS like this king of browsing platforms???
Another tidbit that might help make Mozilla a "browser" for ya..
2.1. Can I install just the browser, not the rest?
Yes. Choose 'Custom' as your download or install option, and check both 'Browser' and 'Personal Security Manager'. (You will need the Personal Security Manager to use secure websites.)
.....and it takes education, resources, and not having Transnationals who go over there because there are not the same Environmental regs are there are in the West.
The Western ideal is the carrot on the stick for these places. In some cases they are forced into using these pollutants (Monsanto), in other cases they are destroying themselves and their environment for *US*, so we can shop at Bed, Bath, Beyond and buy some stinkin Knick Knacks.
While I appreciate your argument, you have to look at who is behind the exploitation. The govs are in the pockets of the transnationals. If they tried to enact laws to prevent our business interests there, they would be labels "Terrorists" and governments would topple, new leaders would be installed who would be more pliant to our aims.
We repeat this cycle until the standard of living reaches a point where the bottom line is no longer looking good, so we drop it like a hot potato, and find a new country were people will sit around in toxic waste for peanuts.
(Witness Thailand and the Asia miracle of the 90's, now toast, but all our chips where made there in the 90's, they prospered, now they are screwed)
You obviously have not been to the third world. When I was in Nepal I witnessed welding sweatshops where kids sit around welding items wearing fake raybans.
No one has the knowledge or the resources to do what you propose. Nor would any of the companies who are dumping this cruft over there give two shites about doing it properly. They just send a boat back full of the stuff we are not legally allowed to get rid of , with a small check attached to the helm. Some lucky Chinese residents get the stash, without 'consent' and then act like hunter/gatherers trying to peel materials out of the stuff where they can get the money for a can of coke by selling the copper or whatever.
I think your idea is good. Why don't you go over there and try and start somthing like that? I'm serious, you would do a world of good.
I should be listed there in the Army of Friends, but have not gotten around to putting myself up. Feel free to contact me at cschwan4@attbi.com, as I am in the Seattle area.
Doing this kind of thing is a great interest of mine, and I work in education to help make these transistions.
I'm not a farmer, and I'm certainly not a modern farmer dealing with this patent nonsense, but it strikes me as pretty damn fucked up that saving food seed from year to year is now illegal and considered a quaint "local tradition" in a few backwards third-world countries.
Smartest thing I have heard in weeks. I hope you get modded up to the moon.
A very interesting read to augment your argument is a book by Thomas Frank called "One Market Under God". It works hard to undermine and expose the myth of the free markets, and how we have been used as consumers and fed lies as to how the markets are the great liberator. As such, what does it matter how all of our jobs have been shipped overseas when we have the gift of the markets.
I watched Thatcher state that on a PBS documentry about Thatcher/Reagan and the great market liberation of the modern world.
The one thing that keeps users from the desktop is the availiblilty of applications like Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver and the like. you could also argue that people want *visual* development environments that fall in line with Visual Studio dot whatever the fuck they call it, and *even* Mac OS X comes with a spiffy set of tool.
Linux zealots will go on and on about Emacs, and While I am with them, I onlu need VI or Emacs for most tasks, getting over the Macho weirdo delusion that joe developer, or joe graphic artist, or joe so and so are completely set with command line tools, is the ravings of a truly *high* individual.
Yeha those tools rock. I make web pages in Emacs.. So the fuck what? I want Dreamweaver, and not so I can paste my websites together. Its os I can have code completetion and all sorts of tools to make my life easier as a developer.
Gimp is great. It has claylike texture and all sorts of cool shit. But man oh man, I am a photoshop user for like 10 years, and as much as I try to use the gimp for certain functions, I truly can't. It sucks.
Illustrator.. Well, its not there.
I think the Linux on the desktop folks should move away from the Office suite thing (which we already now have, in multiple forms) and start looking at development and content creation. This is most important. Until we have this, we have nothing.
People are too clueless to get a clue. I know its cynical, but I act as a activist about this shit all the time and people argue that they are right, even if it cost them the consumer more money.
Frankly its pathetic. Its never ending how people continully step out to defend those who are cramming it right up their a$$.
Americans get exactly what they are asking for. Now if you will excuse me, there is some fluff on TV I have to catch.
Actually, there is an allotment of tickets for passholders and the rest are up for grabs. As long as you have your shit together and buy your tickets around the time when they go on sale, and not try to get them an hour before the show, you can get in.
The most popular shows at the SIFF festival, the tickets have overwhelmingly gone to the general public. This may be unique, but so is the Seattle festival.
I really suggest dropping the 'elitist' fear you seem to have and get out and see some movies, if that is what you are interested in. Its really not too hard to be invloved in independent film, and aside from a few martini slinging weirdos (who you get to laugh at at the parties) most people are very cool, and probably not too different from yourself.
Although, there is a certain breed spotted at the fesitval, that is not this elite type you are talking about, but a weirdo obsessed fat crowd, not unlike those you see at star trek and comic book conventions.
Thats a whole lotta crap bro. I am at SIFF right now, and you know, I could sell you a ticket if one was available. In fact, we sold tickets to the public for every single one of the films shown at the festival save for the press screenings, which are of course, for the press.
I suggest you stop feeling sorry for yourself and quell your paranoid delusions that the world is out to get you and go see some films instead of complaining about how you are not invited. You are invited.
I work for Seattle International Film Festival and from what I know, films such as Gigantic will do the festival circut in attempts to pick up distribution. I was speaking with the director of Who The Hell is Bobby Roos last night, and he was telling me about how rough it is to get your film picked up, even getting a deal for video.
So depending opon the response at the festivals, and the eyes that see the film, it may or may not get picked up.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah, its like they put all sorts of magic inside it in order to transform it into something other than the computer it is.
Might wanna start reading Ars Technica now or something.
Very interesting idea!
Check
this out!!
CONFIDENTIAL U.K. FAX NUMBER: 44-870-1309342
.You were recommended by a close confidant. Who assured us of your capability and
Dear Sir,
Pardon me for starting this great proposal this way as it might surprise you. My name is Yuvraj
Kailash a native of Nepal and attorney to the late king of Nepal who died as a result of loss in
temper caused by an argument between him and his family, as they were against him marrying his
fiancée
reliability to assist us. We seek the assistance of someone who is genuinely interested in
entering into a business relationship with long term focus, and willingness of a kind heart to
help.
If you are conversant with events in Nepal in May/June last year 2001, (June 1 2001), the media
was filled with reports that Crown Prince Dipendra of Nepal had shot and killed several members of
the Nepalese Royal Family, among whom were his parents King Birenda and Queen Aiswarya, before
trying to kill himself.
Prior to the late kings death (Prince Dipendra), he kept aside a secret amount of money, for his
fiancée (Miss Divyani Rana) worth over US$30,000,000.00(Thirty million United States Dollars).
This was made in the heat of misunderstanding between him and members of his family. The money was
kept away in such a way to prevent any member of his family from having any access or trace to the
funds, which was just a part of his wealth, this was like a gift to his fiancée and a further
affirmation to her that he was surly going to marry her, even though, his family was against their
marriage. We have kept this a secret for sometime now and feel this is the right time to execute
this transaction.
The death of my late boss, left us stranded, we have therefore been searching for a genuine and
reliable person or company of trust and with whom the Nepalese Royal Family have never had any
previous, personal or business relationship with. That person will assist in the transfer and
business re-investment of this money. We cannot do it alone due to our present social status. We
also intend to give you a reasonable share of the funds for your assistance. These funds have been
hidden away, known only to his fiancée and myself. We would want you to safeguard this fund from
being clamped down by any body or agencies.
As soon as we receive your letter of acceptance/acknowledgement, I shall give you more highlights
on this transaction.
THIS IS A RISK FREE TRANSACTION AND MUST NOT BE REVILED TO ANYONE NOT EVEN YOUR LAWYER, ATTORNEY,
FAMILY, FRIENDS ETC. If you are capable and trust worthy and can keep to our instructions to make
the above Proposal a reality.
Then CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY ONLY THROUGH OUR CONFIDENTIAL U.K FAX NUMBER: 44-870-1309342 AS
INDICATED ABOVE
DO NOT REPLY US BY EMAIL. Please indicate in your reply your PERSONAL/CONFIDENTIAL TELEPHONE
NUMBERS, CELLULAR OR MOBILE NUMBER, CONFIDENTIAL FAX NUMBER AND YOUR CONFIDENTIAL EMAIL ADDRESS
when replying.
ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE DO NOT REPLY BY EMAIL. Your Reply Should be by Fax only to 44-870-1309342
(United kingdom)
GOD BLESS YOU.
Yuvraj Kailash
obvious
Here is an interesting 'lil factoid:facty facty
Now I know yer just pumping Opera as a web "browsing" purist. But your are distinctly fooled if you think for a second that web "browsing" does not include the constant use of web applications . Wow.. Slashdot is one such beast. Web applications are the future of the web and "browsing" and web "browsers" need to have the hooks and the smarts to make it a reality. So my question is, would you rather have a "browser" tha implements this in an open way, or one that seizes the openess and hooks that into the damn shell of the OS like this king of browsing platforms??? Another tidbit that might help make Mozilla a "browser" for ya..A simple qwestion, a simple answer
Have we been able to turn off Micky Mouse and the other crap Disney has been churning out for years?
Oh yeah, and Debian has apt-get. What makes Redhat so special?
But I use apt-get in Redhat all the time, big deal.
.....and it takes education, resources, and not having Transnationals who go over there because there are not the same Environmental regs are there are in the West.
The Western ideal is the carrot on the stick for these places. In some cases they are forced into using these pollutants (Monsanto), in other cases they are destroying themselves and their environment for *US*, so we can shop at Bed, Bath, Beyond and buy some stinkin Knick Knacks.
While I appreciate your argument, you have to look at who is behind the exploitation. The govs are in the pockets of the transnationals. If they tried to enact laws to prevent our business interests there, they would be labels "Terrorists" and governments would topple, new leaders would be installed who would be more pliant to our aims.
We repeat this cycle until the standard of living reaches a point where the bottom line is no longer looking good, so we drop it like a hot potato, and find a new country were people will sit around in toxic waste for peanuts.
(Witness Thailand and the Asia miracle of the 90's, now toast, but all our chips where made there in the 90's, they prospered, now they are screwed)
You obviously have not been to the third world. When I was in Nepal I witnessed welding sweatshops where kids sit around welding items wearing fake raybans.
No one has the knowledge or the resources to do what you propose. Nor would any of the companies who are dumping this cruft over there give two shites about doing it properly. They just send a boat back full of the stuff we are not legally allowed to get rid of , with a small check attached to the helm. Some lucky Chinese residents get the stash, without 'consent' and then act like hunter/gatherers trying to peel materials out of the stuff where they can get the money for a can of coke by selling the copper or whatever.
I think your idea is good. Why don't you go over there and try and start somthing like that? I'm serious, you would do a world of good.
MS sponsers everything in this town. We are as they say, in the belly of the beast.
Makes it a bitch to be a linux advocate.
The biggest one I can think of is the "linux Terminal Server Project",
ltsp
Which has been adapted to public schools in the form of:
k12ltsp
The linux in education folks have tons of info on doing stuff like this and are very wise about digital divide issues.
Here are some links:
open source schools
School Forge
k12os
SEUL/Edu
Some case studies:
seul dat
There is also Simple End User Linux (SEUL)
SEUL
RedHats "Open Source Now" initiative has listings of people in the area who can help out. They also have a bunch of "why's" and "hows" on their site.
Open Source Now
I should be listed there in the Army of Friends, but have not gotten around to putting myself up. Feel free to contact me at cschwan4@attbi.com, as I am in the Seattle area.
Doing this kind of thing is a great interest of mine, and I work in education to help make these transistions.
Hope this helps.
MEOW!!!
I'll tell ya some open source seeds. NON GM seeds.
I'm not a farmer, and I'm certainly not a modern farmer dealing with this patent nonsense, but it strikes me as pretty damn fucked up that saving food seed from year to year is now illegal and considered a quaint "local tradition" in a few backwards third-world countries.
Smartest thing I have heard in weeks. I hope you get modded up to the moon.
X is a resource hog.
Yeah, on a 486.. Now get with the times man..
We already have that, its called "K-Meleon". Too bad the ArsTechnica folks have not a clue what they were reviewing.
Doesnt it *say* on Moz's site, and the start page you get when you install it, that MOZ is NOT an END user PRODUCT.
I say its just more FUD.
A very interesting read to augment your argument is a book by Thomas Frank called "One Market Under God". It works hard to undermine and expose the myth of the free markets, and how we have been used as consumers and fed lies as to how the markets are the great liberator. As such, what does it matter how all of our jobs have been shipped overseas when we have the gift of the markets.
I watched Thatcher state that on a PBS documentry about Thatcher/Reagan and the great market liberation of the modern world.
I picked up this book right afterwards.
Remeber VA Linux anyone?
The one thing that keeps users from the desktop is the availiblilty of applications like Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver and the like. you could also argue that people want *visual* development environments that fall in line with Visual Studio dot whatever the fuck they call it, and *even* Mac OS X comes with a spiffy set of tool.
Linux zealots will go on and on about Emacs, and While I am with them, I onlu need VI or Emacs for most tasks, getting over the Macho weirdo delusion that joe developer, or joe graphic artist, or joe so and so are completely set with command line tools, is the ravings of a truly *high* individual.
Yeha those tools rock. I make web pages in Emacs.. So the fuck what? I want Dreamweaver, and not so I can paste my websites together. Its os I can have code completetion and all sorts of tools to make my life easier as a developer.
Gimp is great. It has claylike texture and all sorts of cool shit. But man oh man, I am a photoshop user for like 10 years, and as much as I try to use the gimp for certain functions, I truly can't. It sucks.
Illustrator.. Well, its not there.
I think the Linux on the desktop folks should move away from the Office suite thing (which we already now have, in multiple forms) and start looking at development and content creation. This is most important. Until we have this, we have nothing.
And do what? Shop?
No thanks.
No it shouldnt.
People are too clueless to get a clue. I know its cynical, but I act as a activist about this shit all the time and people argue that they are right, even if it cost them the consumer more money.
Frankly its pathetic. Its never ending how people continully step out to defend those who are cramming it right up their a$$.
Americans get exactly what they are asking for. Now if you will excuse me, there is some fluff on TV I have to catch.
Actually, there is an allotment of tickets for passholders and the rest are up for grabs. As long as you have your shit together and buy your tickets around the time when they go on sale, and not try to get them an hour before the show, you can get in.
The most popular shows at the SIFF festival, the tickets have overwhelmingly gone to the general public. This may be unique, but so is the Seattle festival.
I really suggest dropping the 'elitist' fear you seem to have and get out and see some movies, if that is what you are interested in. Its really not too hard to be invloved in independent film, and aside from a few martini slinging weirdos (who you get to laugh at at the parties) most people are very cool, and probably not too different from yourself.
Although, there is a certain breed spotted at the fesitval, that is not this elite type you are talking about, but a weirdo obsessed fat crowd, not unlike those you see at star trek and comic book conventions.
TMBG are pretty innovative with the eMusic thing and all; perhaps they might distribute it on line?
Thats very true, and a lot of the filmakers I have talked to see that as a viable option in a world of tough distribution.
Thats a whole lotta crap bro. I am at SIFF right now, and you know, I could sell you a ticket if one was available. In fact, we sold tickets to the public for every single one of the films shown at the festival save for the press screenings, which are of course, for the press.
I suggest you stop feeling sorry for yourself and quell your paranoid delusions that the world is out to get you and go see some films instead of complaining about how you are not invited. You are invited.
Ummm... right on the front page it lists the festivals all across the country where it is playing.
I work for Seattle International Film Festival and from what I know, films such as Gigantic will do the festival circut in attempts to pick up distribution. I was speaking with the director of Who The Hell is Bobby Roos last night, and he was telling me about how rough it is to get your film picked up, even getting a deal for video.
So depending opon the response at the festivals, and the eyes that see the film, it may or may not get picked up.
Moz just seems to 'think' about every action a while first.
umm.. computers don't think. People do.
So, I guess in this age of eye-candy, Mozilla is king ("ooh look-skins!").
There's a lot more going on there than pretty skins bro, ever hear of web standards? Didn't think so. Here's a couple of hints for ya.
w3.org
webstandards browser upgrade
Webstandards
While yer at it, you may wanna validate some of those pages you surf in NS4.
Did you know what people have been writing webpages with CSS for the past few years?
Back to NS4 and waiting for Mozilla 2.
Thats it, I am finally using some DOM sniff code and routing all the 4.0 browser people to AOL, where they belong.