ofcourse, nobody took anything. they copied, so you've still got all your onions.
A bass line is sampled and put into a song that makes a lot of money. Song copyrights aside, the person sampling the bass line isn't paying for the bass guitar, amplifier, bass strings, musicianship (practice, practice, practice), 1/4 cables, microphones (or direct box), studio time, tape, etc. If a person is profitting off of my bass line, after all I put into it as a musician, I'm due some return for my work and money spent.
Okay, I'll be more blunt because you're obviously biased (OTOH, I'm biased because I have worked as a musician:). You're making a soup. You go into my garden and take one of my onions without my permission and make your soup. Your soup sells like mad. Since you used my onion to make a soup, shouldn't you pay me for my onion? After all, your soup wouldn't be quite as yummy without my onion. Even if you carmelized and sliced the onion to "make it your own", it's still my onion that you took.
Whoa, pardner... don't concede anything on the "you got me on the investment thing'.
I will admit, I know fsck all about high finance so there's no point in me trying to argue about it. It'd make about as much sense as a banker arguing the pros and cons of Novell's NDS tree.;)
Okay, Sun's not a great investment. But they've got a few billion in assets, so I don't think they're going bye-bye any time soon unless they pull an Enron and fsck their accounting. One thing that should be considered; Sun makes some great products on a level that Microsoft will *never* be able to emulate until they pull some of their assets into research (which will drop their stock price). And, in my eyes, a great product is what's most important; stock price be damned.
Maybe that's what's so wrong with many things in commerce. Sun and SGI make some *really* bitchen' hardware, but are not the best stock performers. Microsoft makes some pretty mediocre products, yet their stock is performing[0]. With this, I see that Microsoft is more involved in keeping their stock price up instead of making a bitchen' product which means that they're throwing less around research and such. Yeah, yeah, I know... cruel world, etc.
Anyways, if it makes you happy, you're right in the investment sense, but I'm right in the technological sense.
All the best, mate. You've brought some interesting perspective into the picture.
[0] With all the money that MS has, I'd expect better of them, IMHO.
If Sun's military contracts were enough to sustain the company, then this thread would not exist, would it?
Sun has a bit more than just the military, but this is one example of what I've seen at $workplace. And, besides all that, the article is pretty much speculation without any serious (i.e. as in posted on Sun's webpage and ready to sign the paper) evidence. Then again, this is/. Home of the potato powered webserver.;)
Hell, Microsoft has Billions of dollars in Military contracts, but they are a drop in the bucket.
FYI, MS-IIS is a *big* no-no with the DoD and many other gov't agencies.
If Microsoft was selling MS dogpoop up agaist Sun Pizza, odds are that Microsoft would win anyway, because Sun cant do Marketing.
It's not a matter of Sun vs. Microsoft. It's a matter of tools for the task. Micorsoft/Intel is nice for what tasks it needs to do, but it's not for something, IMHO, that cannot_have_any_downtime. When a Microsoft OS can exist in an environment that has hot-swappable 64 bit CPUs, tons of demanding users, and better fail-over schemes, then it might find itself in the hi-end market that Sun populates. Until then, it's not on the same planet as Sun, so it's not a matter of marketing when MS is not in the hi-end market.
Nothing but a bunch of sweet military sales and service contracts. At $massive_workplace_machineroom, Suns outnumber Intel machines 2:1. A project recenty added a Sunfire 15000. I wouldn't say that Sun has nothing going for it.
You've got no marketing; In the media, your N-1 gets mentioned once for every 100 times that.NET mentioned.
That's the general media for the general public who play with Intels, not technical journals that are read by professional CTOs who run shops with > 10,000 users. Besides that, if the media mentions that dog poop tastes great 100 times for every time pizza is mentioned, does that make dog poop taste better than pizza?
Oh, by the way, make sure you do that resume in WORD, so that people can actually READ it. <clue> Not if you want a job in a Unix Shop. </clue> ;)
"We're seeing crazy uptime numbers now, like three months, six months. I fully expect we'll see a year of uptime when Windows Server 2003 is finished," said Jeff Stucky, senior systems engineer on the Microsoft.com operations team.
Maybe I don't bother with Windows in that much depth, but, how in the fsck can you tell the uptime on a Win server?
OTOH, They may have that on Win2003. It took MS until Win2K to figure out that file quotas[0] might be a good idea, and it took them until XP to find that some form of 'su' is a handy thing.
[0] Yeah, I know, they had 3rd party software for that.
'Camp of the Chaos Computer Club' can be reduced to the initialism 'CCCC'. You'll note it is 4-letters in length. The fact that 'NAZI' is also 4-letters in length strikes me as a bit too much of a coincident.
Just like 'HAL' in the movie 2001 was actually 'IBM' rolled back one letter, 'CCCC' is actually 'NAZI' if you roll the first 'C' forward 11 letters, the second 'C' back 2 letters, the third 'C' forward 23 letters and the last 'C' forward 6 letters.
11 - 2 + 23 + 6 = 28, i.e. 1928, the year the Nazi Party came to power in Germany.
And where does this so-called 'Computer Club' call home?
GERMANY!
Maybe that's why I first parsed this subject as Call for Papers: Chaos Concentrationtion Camp 2003
-What's your password? -It's obscure. -Good, but what is it? -I told you, it's obscure. -OK, let's start at the top, what's your login? -It's secret. No, really! No, not the comfy chair!
I did a few similar things with root passwds on development boxen. My two favourites are 'no' and 'not today'.;)
I heard about a SysAdmin who wanted to change the pass-phrase[0] for their alarm system to "How should I know? I'm just trying to rob the place."
[0] The phrase you give the operator from the alarm company when they call after the alarm's gone off.
Assuming the guns and ammunition were sold in accordance to the law (and not obtained illegally), and the seller had no reason to suspect any wrongdoing, then I don't see how you can blame the seller for the crime.
According to this, Liam Youens' gun collection was a big no-no. I'm all for the right to bear arms, but not to the point where any criminal and retard can acquire a gun.
I took Gerald Carter's Samba tutorial at the 2000 LISA conference during the early going-ons with TNG. He expressed that he was mildly disappointed that they wouldn't go with his idea to just call it "Tango" because it would go so adorably with "Samba". Oh well....
Yeah, but everytime a consumer pushes some legal loophole, corporations will just push back with some sort of complex legal CYA to insure that the loophole won't happen again.
Since you can now run bash and other unix-y things on Macs, I've noticed there have been a lot more people at the 2002 LISA conference with Mac laptops than PC laptops. At the 2000 LISA conference, most people had Sony Vaios.
MS products for 90% off of the 'estimated retail price'.
Scary memories!
Every time I hear about a university discount for software, I remember a long time ago when I had purchased the "student discount" version of Borland's Turbo C++ for US$70 (vs. the full version for around US$1,000, IIRC). Upon calling tech support for help with some weird errors, I was asked for the product ID number. The tech had informed that this was the student version, which wasn't as fully featured as the full version, kinda buggered up, and Have A Nice Day.
I dunno about that. 4.6 works great on some dual processor Dell PE2550 servers and a dual processor Compaq proliant. They're all pretty quick and have some bitchen' uptime. In fact, the last time I rebooted them is when they moved from test to production. (Around 5 months)
OTOH, the other OS being used for similar boxen on the same project is Nutware 5.0 which has the uptime of a mayfly when groupwise is running on it.
One of the hilarious solutions that I have come up with (well, I think it is funny) for phone spam is somehting like this:
* The jerky phone salesman calls my home
* They begin telling me about who they represent, what they are selling..... yada,yada,yada
* I rudely stop them and say "To continue this call, you will be charged $3.99 per minute. Please provide me with your Visa, Master Card or Discover card number and expiration date... sorry, no American Express."
That sounds like fun. I'll have to try that out.
I've got the call-blocker service, so I don't have any live telemarketers calling me, but I did have this one company that constantly left automated sales pitches on my voice-mail. So one day I changed the outgoing message to mention that any unsolicited marketing messages left on my voicemail will be charged a US$5,000 handling fee. Sure enough, the company left another automated sales pitch on my machine. I called the number and asked for my money. I was soon talking to a manager who conferenced with my voicemail. He appologized and made a bunch of pathetic excuses. I told him to forget about it, and maybe he should consider another marketing technique. I haven't been bothered since.
Make the bullets cost $5000 each. "I'd shoot your ass, if I could afford it."
Really, this appeals to the Libertarian in me, make bullets reflect the full cost of damages done and the free market will sort things out. It might kill marksmanship competitions and limit hunting, but it will dry up gun violence while preserving the second amendmant.
Whilst it sounds like a logical solution, but all that will do is create a black market on bullets. Then we have to spend a bunch of tax money going after the black market. Then the black market won't like being hassled, so there will be violent retaliations, etc.
Broken, stupid compilers; braindead default configs; a useless, trash desktop; lackluster performance; finicky printer queues; workstations that inexplicably lock up and refuse to log out; header files and libraries with all kinds of wonky problems; etc...
Any OS is gonna run like crap if it's not configured right, so I won't go into that.
If you don't like the defaults that come with Solaris, you can get quite a bit of GNU and other stuff from Sunfreeware
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Now we get pretty money like other countries. :)
Now if they could make the denomiations in different sizes too so it can be easier to tell the difference between them in dark clubs and such.
ofcourse, nobody took anything. they copied, so you've still got all your onions.
A bass line is sampled and put into a song that makes a lot of money. Song copyrights aside, the person sampling the bass line isn't paying for the bass guitar, amplifier, bass strings, musicianship (practice, practice, practice), 1/4 cables, microphones (or direct box), studio time, tape, etc. If a person is profitting off of my bass line, after all I put into it as a musician, I'm due some return for my work and money spent.
Okay, I'll be more blunt because you're obviously biased (OTOH, I'm biased because I have worked as a musician:). You're making a soup. You go into my garden and take one of my onions without my permission and make your soup. Your soup sells like mad. Since you used my onion to make a soup, shouldn't you pay me for my onion? After all, your soup wouldn't be quite as yummy without my onion. Even if you carmelized and sliced the onion to "make it your own", it's still my onion that you took.
The attitude that there should be is destroying rap music.
<jest>You say that like it's a bad thing</jest>
But, by the same token, if you make money mowing lawns with my lawn mower, aren't I entitled to a cut of the profits?
Whoa, pardner... don't concede anything on the "you got me on the investment thing'.
;)
I will admit, I know fsck all about high finance so there's no point in me trying to argue about it. It'd make about as much sense as a banker arguing the pros and cons of Novell's NDS tree.
Okay, Sun's not a great investment. But they've got a few billion in assets, so I don't think they're going bye-bye any time soon unless they pull an Enron and fsck their accounting. One thing that should be considered; Sun makes some great products on a level that Microsoft will *never* be able to emulate until they pull some of their assets into research (which will drop their stock price). And, in my eyes, a great product is what's most important; stock price be damned.
Maybe that's what's so wrong with many things in commerce. Sun and SGI make some *really* bitchen' hardware, but are not the best stock performers. Microsoft makes some pretty mediocre products, yet their stock is performing[0]. With this, I see that Microsoft is more involved in keeping their stock price up instead of making a bitchen' product which means that they're throwing less around research and such. Yeah, yeah, I know... cruel world, etc.
Anyways, if it makes you happy, you're right in the investment sense, but I'm right in the technological sense.
All the best, mate. You've brought some interesting perspective into the picture.
[0] With all the money that MS has, I'd expect better of them, IMHO.
One look at Sun's financials will show you the writing on the wall. They should have sold the business a year ago.
Okay, what financials are you speaking of? Any documenation you would care to share with the class?
If Sun's military contracts were enough to sustain the company, then this thread would not exist, would it?
/. Home of the potato powered webserver. ;)
Sun has a bit more than just the military, but this is one example of what I've seen at $workplace. And, besides all that, the article is pretty much speculation without any serious (i.e. as in posted on Sun's webpage and ready to sign the paper) evidence. Then again, this is
Hell, Microsoft has Billions of dollars in Military contracts, but they are a drop in the bucket.
FYI, MS-IIS is a *big* no-no with the DoD and many other gov't agencies.
If Microsoft was selling MS dogpoop up agaist Sun Pizza, odds are that Microsoft would win anyway, because Sun cant do Marketing.
It's not a matter of Sun vs. Microsoft. It's a matter of tools for the task. Micorsoft/Intel is nice for what tasks it needs to do, but it's not for something, IMHO, that cannot_have_any_downtime. When a Microsoft OS can exist in an environment that has hot-swappable 64 bit CPUs, tons of demanding users, and better fail-over schemes, then it might find itself in the hi-end market that Sun populates. Until then, it's not on the same planet as Sun, so it's not a matter of marketing when MS is not in the hi-end market.
Your company has nothing going for it. NOTHING.
.NET mentioned.
Nothing but a bunch of sweet military sales and service contracts. At $massive_workplace_machineroom, Suns outnumber Intel machines 2:1. A project recenty added a Sunfire 15000. I wouldn't say that Sun has nothing going for it.
You've got no marketing; In the media, your N-1 gets mentioned once for every 100 times that
That's the general media for the general public who play with Intels, not technical journals that are read by professional CTOs who run shops with > 10,000 users. Besides that, if the media mentions that dog poop tastes great 100 times for every time pizza is mentioned, does that make dog poop taste better than pizza?
Oh, by the way, make sure you do that resume in WORD, so that people can actually READ it.
<clue>
Not if you want a job in a Unix Shop.
</clue>
;)
Screw AOL, MSN, and Yahoo! This is obviously a job for Spiderman, The Punisher, and Daredevil. ;)
"We're seeing crazy uptime numbers now, like three months, six months. I fully expect we'll see a year of uptime when Windows Server 2003 is finished," said Jeff Stucky, senior systems engineer on the Microsoft.com operations team.
Maybe I don't bother with Windows in that much depth, but, how in the fsck can you tell the uptime on a Win server?
OTOH, They may have that on Win2003. It took MS until Win2K to figure out that file quotas[0] might be a good idea, and it took them until XP to find that some form of 'su' is a handy thing.
[0] Yeah, I know, they had 3rd party software for that.
'Camp of the Chaos Computer Club' can be reduced to the initialism 'CCCC'. You'll note it is 4-letters in length. The fact that 'NAZI' is also 4-letters in length strikes me as a bit too much of a coincident.
Just like 'HAL' in the movie 2001 was actually 'IBM' rolled back one letter, 'CCCC' is actually 'NAZI' if you roll the first 'C' forward 11 letters, the second 'C' back 2 letters, the third 'C' forward 23 letters and the last 'C' forward 6 letters.
11 - 2 + 23 + 6 = 28, i.e. 1928, the year the Nazi Party came to power in Germany.
And where does this so-called 'Computer Club' call home?
GERMANY!
Maybe that's why I first parsed this subject as Call for Papers: Chaos Concentrationtion Camp 2003
;)
-What's your password?
;)
-It's obscure.
-Good, but what is it?
-I told you, it's obscure.
-OK, let's start at the top, what's your login?
-It's secret. No, really! No, not the comfy chair!
I did a few similar things with root passwds on development boxen. My two favourites are 'no' and 'not today'.
I heard about a SysAdmin who wanted to change the pass-phrase[0] for their alarm system to "How should I know? I'm just trying to rob the place."
[0] The phrase you give the operator from the alarm company when they call after the alarm's gone off.
Assuming the guns and ammunition were sold in accordance to the law (and not obtained illegally), and the seller had no reason to suspect any wrongdoing, then I don't see how you can blame the seller for the crime.
According to this, Liam Youens' gun collection was a big no-no. I'm all for the right to bear arms, but not to the point where any criminal and retard can acquire a gun.
Definite loophole there.
I can imagine what's next.
Hello. You have been pre-approved for a Visa that donates to $CHARITY.
No only that, but how many speed cameras have you wizzed past that are out of film? ;)
I took Gerald Carter's Samba tutorial at the 2000 LISA conference during the early going-ons with TNG. He expressed that he was mildly disappointed that they wouldn't go with his idea to just call it "Tango" because it would go so adorably with "Samba". Oh well....
;^)
Yeah, but everytime a consumer pushes some legal loophole, corporations will just push back with some sort of complex legal CYA to insure that the loophole won't happen again.
Since you can now run bash and other unix-y things on Macs, I've noticed there have been a lot more people at the 2002 LISA conference with Mac laptops than PC laptops. At the 2000 LISA conference, most people had Sony Vaios.
MS products for 90% off of the 'estimated retail price'.
Scary memories!
Every time I hear about a university discount for software, I remember a long time ago when I had purchased the "student discount" version of Borland's Turbo C++ for US$70 (vs. the full version for around US$1,000, IIRC). Upon calling tech support for help with some weird errors, I was asked for the product ID number. The tech had informed that this was the student version, which wasn't as fully featured as the full version, kinda buggered up, and Have A Nice Day.
Going outside for all those smoke breaks is good for me after all. ;)
OTOH, the other OS being used for similar boxen on the same project is Nutware 5.0 which has the uptime of a mayfly when groupwise is running on it.
One of the hilarious solutions that I have come up with (well, I think it is funny) for phone spam is somehting like this:
..... yada,yada,yada ... sorry, no American Express."
* The jerky phone salesman calls my home
* They begin telling me about who they represent, what they are selling
* I rudely stop them and say "To continue this call, you will be charged $3.99 per minute. Please provide me with your Visa, Master Card or Discover card number and expiration date
That sounds like fun. I'll have to try that out.
I've got the call-blocker service, so I don't have any live telemarketers calling me, but I did have this one company that constantly left automated sales pitches on my voice-mail. So one day I changed the outgoing message to mention that any unsolicited marketing messages left on my voicemail will be charged a US$5,000 handling fee. Sure enough, the company left another automated sales pitch on my machine. I called the number and asked for my money. I was soon talking to a manager who conferenced with my voicemail. He appologized and made a bunch of pathetic excuses. I told him to forget about it, and maybe he should consider another marketing technique. I haven't been bothered since.
Make the bullets cost $5000 each. "I'd shoot your ass, if I could afford it."
Really, this appeals to the Libertarian in me, make bullets reflect the full cost of damages done and the free market will sort things out. It might kill marksmanship competitions and limit hunting, but it will dry up gun violence while preserving the second amendmant.
Whilst it sounds like a logical solution, but all that will do is create a black market on bullets. Then we have to spend a bunch of tax money going after the black market. Then the black market won't like being hassled, so there will be violent retaliations, etc.
Broken, stupid compilers; braindead default configs; a useless, trash desktop; lackluster performance; finicky printer queues; workstations that inexplicably lock up and refuse to log out; header files and libraries with all kinds of wonky problems; etc...
Any OS is gonna run like crap if it's not configured right, so I won't go into that.
If you don't like the defaults that come with Solaris, you can get quite a bit of GNU and other stuff from Sunfreeware