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Call for Papers: Chaos Communication Camp 2003
Aldert Hazenberg sent in this note about a Call for Papers: "Papers are being solicited for the second Camp of the Chaos Computer Club e.V., Germany, to be held near Berlin, Germany, on 7/8/9/10th August 2003. The Camp is intended to promote the interchange of technical, social and political ideas and concepts to find ways to make this world a little bit more friendly to intelligent beings."
Slashdot send many webservers into chaos all the time. Maybe the should attend... :P
Chaotic is about the right adjective to describe the trajectory of the disk arms on their poor web server.
A lot of the recommended topics seem to be security oriented... does that imply that intelligent people should hack systems for their advantage? Exactly what does this Chaos Computer Club group stand for?
As someone once said to Carl Segan, after his speach about searching for extraterastrial intelligance.
- "First lets see if we can find any Intelligance on Earth."
As of Postgres v6.2, time travel is no longer supported.
Sticking "chaos" into a name is so 1990's.
Cunning Computer Consultants Call Chaos Computer Club Camps Crazy
Not on this planet I fear. The human condition seems to be one of destroying ourselves. Prehaps the film Equilibrium got it right and prehaps we should all just stop feeling with drugs. Then again once people found feeling they wanted it.
Prehaps we are all doomed or we might just all grow up
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Let's look at the facts about this seemingly innocuous meeting:
"Papers are being solicited for the second Camp of the Chaos Computer Club e.V., Germany, to be held near Berlin, Germany, on 7/8/9/10th August 2003."
'Camp of the Chaos Computer Club' can be reduced to the initialism 'CCCC'. You'll note it is 4-letters in length. The fact that 'NAZI' is also 4-letters in length strikes me as a bit too much of a coincident.
Just like 'HAL' in the movie 2001 was actually 'IBM' rolled back one letter, 'CCCC' is actually 'NAZI' if you roll the first 'C' forward 11 letters, the second 'C' back 2 letters, the third 'C' forward 23 letters and the last 'C' forward 6 letters.
11 - 2 + 23 + 6 = 28, i.e. 1928, the year the Nazi Party came to power in Germany.
And where does this so-called 'Computer Club' call home?
GERMANY!
The cat is out of the bag, chumps. We're onto you like hair on a gorilla.
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Tal
"Study your math, kids. Key to the universe." -The Archangel Gabriel
You're trying too hard. Relax.
Press release from the CCC:
The US military threatend to invade our camp and free all surpressed script kiddies for hacktivism being a form of terrorism and supporting Osama bin Laden.
Wouldn't it be really hard to light, being metal and all?
"11 - 2 + 23 + 6 = 28, i.e. 1928"
(11 - 2) + (23 + 6) = 38
So that makes 9 + 29 = 38
"There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness."- Friedrich Nietzsche
Right from their website's faq:
Remember also that the famous Blinkenlights were their celebration of the club's 20th anniversary.
The CCC is actually more than 20 years old. Maybe you even saw their anniversary project. It had appearences in several music videos.
The scheduled keynote speaker is Professor Chaos hailing from South Park, Colorado.
-Look lively. LOOK LIVELY!!! --Mr. Shmallow
talk trash about this group.... but ask yourself, what are you doing to benefit the world?
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ignorance is bliss not an excuse
Is this the same Chaos from the early 90's? Does anyone know? IIRC they were based out of germany, and published a few "engineering" guides.
About that long, they've been around. Sheesh. As I recall they're government funded in Germany, sorta gives all their "haxors" a place to get something constructive done... to some extent. As I recall also part of their tradeoff was that they help out in cases of national crises or criminal hunts if recruited... but that's just rumors I recall... I don't speak/read enough german to read all that stuff.
:) Here they put 13 year old script kiddies in jail with spike the child molester and joe the violent mass murderer instead of teaching 13 year old SK proper computer ethics and skills and getting him into creative fun stuff instead of destructive stupid stuff... but then again, since when was the US gov't into anything OTHER than destructive stupid stuff??
In reality they're a club of hackers, crackers and slackers who got themselves a national club... mostly dedicated to informing the unwashed masses that YES computer security and awesome highest tech ideas are NOT just for geeks... we're just better at it than most. I do recall they WERE indeed supposedly funded by the German gov't.
Lets see the US do that. hah, that will be the day
-DaedalusHKX
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
Technically CCCP is fine, but if you draw the communist connection don't forget the Nazi's came to power there because the plutocrats weren't happy when Communism was voted for earlier and elected. The Nazi party was elected for its anti communist stance as I recall... they became more anti jewish as time went on, but originally their platform was supposedly anti communist, since the communists weren't very good for the German economy (or public view of it for that matter).
-DaedalusHKX
PS - I could be wrong but I recall from my 10 years ago of history that Germany was the first place where Communism was elected/took over office anywhere in the world.
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
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" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
In other news, the most vocal areas of the world seem to have problems themselves in allowing free speach and liberty to those they disagree with. Another observation is that certain very vocal people are of countries who are directly prospering through the direct and indirect support of murderous and tyranical regimes through arms sales and other tools of war that are known to be used against innocent people. By whoring themselves to anyone willing to pay they think that the inevitable fate that waits for those that support war and murder will somehow be avoided by empty and hypocritical rhetoric. Perhaps if they policed themselves and controlled their own governments first then they would be free to more acurately point their fingers at other countries.
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Isn't the Chaos Computer Club one of the older existing hacker groups in the world, at least by the modern definition? I believe the Cult of the Dead Cow hacker group started quite a bit later than CCC.
The German Parliament stated that they have no expertise on this and proposed a member of the BSI (a sort of NCSC type organisation) and from the Chaos Computer Club. MS were unhappy with this. To be fair it would have been a problem for the CCC member too because of the problem of intellectual contamination with open source projects.
The fact that the German Parliament
See my journal, I write things there
Why is it that a conference billed as being near a major city worries me? Like, where is it actually? And is it really such a hole that you can't just say outright where it's being held?
Not that I care to do it or even view it, but why is it illegal?
Shitting is legal, fucking is legal: Why is fucking someone while shitting on them illegal?
Hell, let the smell and stigma keep people away from it...damn. Why make it a law?
Yes, I mean this seriously.
Scary.
"Other than them, most of them think..."
Other than the aforementioned foreigners and my former professors, most of the denizens of this land, natives or otherwise are a tad too brainwashed and go up in arms over any little thing without even thinking it through or asking for complete logical and damning proof before sending our kids to die or get poisoned (and die later, off the air so the prez doesn't take the fall, read assertation on DU vs conventional ammo)... but they never do. They just go nuts and pop another Budweiser while screaming Right Wing Bloody Murder To All Who Disagree which by the way will become the title to our new national anthem.
-Daedalus
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
Baaah. Pooh pooh! Sounds like a bunch of pretentious nerds discussing news about Star Trek, Star Wars, LOTR, Anime, and D&D. How lame! And yet, how vaguely familiar .........
They call me the working man. I guess that's what I am.
And that's about the long and short of it.
I cannot even begin to count the number of cute girls that stopped dating me because I used a computer.
We should have a talk about that.
CCC seems like the right place for such a social activity/talk.
"Not my manner of thinking but the manner of thinking of others has been the source of my unhappiness." - M
Is this the same Chaos Computer Club whose members sold U.S. military intelligence to the KGB? Did that "make this world a little bit more friendly to intelligent beings"?
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Humans crashed here, we were the useless third of a lost civilization.
Dolphins just hang around for free fish; they are more intelligent than us. They have space ships, but are less intelligent than the mice or the Earth itself(Deep Though)
Btw, count 24242424 digits into pi (3 and . count) to find 42424242. Coincidence? I think not!
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