http://web.ocpl.org/webpacj/webclient.html - it's the interface to our local library, in Souther California. Works fine in IE, I've yet to see it work in Mozilla. I suspect it's deprecated java that's doing it - but there's the catch - IE only supports an "old" version of java, due to the license dispute. So, do you upgrade your java code to be compliant, yet run a considerable risk of breaking the most widely distributed JVM ? or what? I don't have the answer, but it makes me think of Microsofts spat with java as being even more shrewdly calculated than maybe I suspected...
They do this - have certified, and tested hardware and include Linux in their OS compatibility tables. That's how I bought an LH4 - they even had a whitepaper on the install. Last time I checked, (about 2 weeks ago) they had all kinds of systems listed, including desktops and servers. I didn't check for laptops though.
I just started rolling out a javahelp application on my 'doze boxes, only to find that hsviewer crashes. These are fully patched W2K boxes, and trawling the web produces no mention of hsviewer.exe exploding in on itself. Suggestions ? (apologies for the offtopic post - my monday deadline prompted it).
In general, there aren't problems. You see them if you install on many machines, even if they are identical. I had SP5 trash 30 machines in one go, yet the previous 30 test machines, same hardware, model, apps etc. worked fine. it's the law of averages - windows works "most" of the time, so you think it's not as bad as it really is.
This is what Office 2000 was supposed to usher in - a new age of "self healing" apps, running on W2K a "self healing" OS. Now, a couple of years into this "self healing" stage, experienced sys admins can recognize it as yet another crock of crap that was simply promoted to justify the upgrade tax. W2K and Office 2K certainly offer improvements over predecessors, but didn't deliver where it counted - try keeping up with the security patches to see what I mean. File with BOB, OLE, DNS and any other hyped up crud sold to magazines as news "articles".
As there's no outlook plugin (just one for express), you'll have to convert your users to emacs for mail, but other than that, the cost savings will be huge. Of course, there's no unattended deployment tools either, so you'll have to visit each desktop, but again, the cost savings will be huge. Folks, this is sarcasm, sometimes a development project needs to tackle the unsavory aspects of windows to make sense.
When I got to the first part about not using X10, and making his own controller, (despite crud complaints about X10 stuff not being made for high voltages), I gave him the benefit of the doubt. When I got to the next part about not using a basic stamp either, I figured we were at the wheel re-invention stage, and lost interest. Not only that, it doesn't use sensors for chemical level detection... oh well. However, this kind of stuff always has the potential for interest - folks - you might like homepower magazine too www.homepower.com - especially if you live are being shafted by California power policies right now!
Wouldn't it be feasible to put it on a big IRIX box on the server, and run it via X on the local boxen ? I thought X was the big advantage of *nix based systems, so you didn't *have* to load every app locally - just once, on a centrally maintained box.
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Seemed like a nice bloke, fairly genuine, and with some "big picture" views.
"The terms of the settlement were not disclosed, but Greenspun has since purchased an RV and an airplane". So at least we know he did OK! Beats me why RH bought the company, when they could have brought in - openacs
How to implement Free Software and Linux in an MS network, gradually replacing every single component from desktop, to DNS, to file sharing and printing to email, to crypto, to calendaring, to webdav, to supporting the now "legacy" apps (using a variety of emulators).
... was not even a desk at all. It was some kind of frame that you sat "in", with footrests, and most of the computer components suspended on small platforms. Looked like a jungle gym at a kids playground, but seemed very workable. I think I saw it on discovery channel, and supposedly the mfr. was selling it for around $2-300. Of course, since then, I've been unable to locate one.
I asked them to include the subscription in their "professional" edition, somewhat like they used to with their previous incarnation of RHN. I work at a business that a) doesn't have an account with RH (we buy from a vendor) b) doesn't have a business credit card. I don't want to use my own credit card and expense it, nor do I want to go through the rigmarole of setting up and account. This change doesn't impact me much.
and that comes direct from AOL. Other than their online front end, how many closed source products do AOL have ? Hey - prove me wrong - or I'll stick with my opinion that it's nothing like MS buying RedHat.
... is GPL'd, and frankly, excellent. Explain that! (if you want to know what AOLserver is, just use a search engine). I don't like monopolies, as much as the next guy, but I got into Linux for the technical aspects of it, I don't see it getting anything but better.
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http://web.ocpl.org/webpacj/webclient.html - it's the interface to our local library, in Souther California. Works fine in IE, I've yet to see it work in Mozilla. I suspect it's deprecated java that's doing it - but there's the catch - IE only supports an "old" version of java, due to the license dispute. So, do you upgrade your java code to be compliant, yet run a considerable risk of breaking the most widely distributed JVM ? or what? I don't have the answer, but it makes me think of Microsofts spat with java as being even more shrewdly calculated than maybe I suspected...
They do this - have certified, and tested hardware and include Linux in their OS compatibility tables. That's how I bought an LH4 - they even had a whitepaper on the install. Last time I checked, (about 2 weeks ago) they had all kinds of systems listed, including desktops and servers. I didn't check for laptops though.
I just started rolling out a javahelp application on my 'doze boxes, only to find that hsviewer crashes. These are fully patched W2K boxes, and trawling the web produces no mention of hsviewer.exe exploding in on itself. Suggestions ? (apologies for the offtopic post - my monday deadline prompted it).
lets see if we can make a BSD story reach double digits in the number of posts!
(intended to be funny, not insulting)...
Or are you just a whiner?
In general, there aren't problems. You see them if you install on many machines, even if they are identical. I had SP5 trash 30 machines in one go, yet the previous 30 test machines, same hardware, model, apps etc. worked fine. it's the law of averages - windows works "most" of the time, so you think it's not as bad as it really is.
This is what Office 2000 was supposed to usher in - a new age of "self healing" apps, running on W2K a "self healing" OS. Now, a couple of years into this "self healing" stage, experienced sys admins can recognize it as yet another crock of crap that was simply promoted to justify the upgrade tax. W2K and Office 2K certainly offer improvements over predecessors, but didn't deliver where it counted - try keeping up with the security patches to see what I mean. File with BOB, OLE, DNS and any other hyped up crud sold to magazines as news "articles".
Thanks for the heads up, hope it gets added to the gpg page of links.
As there's no outlook plugin (just one for express), you'll have to convert your users to emacs for mail, but other than that, the cost savings will be huge. Of course, there's no unattended deployment tools either, so you'll have to visit each desktop, but again, the cost savings will be huge. Folks, this is sarcasm, sometimes a development project needs to tackle the unsavory aspects of windows to make sense.
When I got to the first part about not using X10, and making his own controller, (despite crud complaints about X10 stuff not being made for high voltages), I gave him the benefit of the doubt. When I got to the next part about not using a basic stamp either, I figured we were at the wheel re-invention stage, and lost interest. Not only that, it doesn't use sensors for chemical level detection ... oh well. However, this kind of stuff always has the potential for interest - folks - you might like homepower magazine too www.homepower.com - especially if you live are being shafted by California power policies right now!
Always, and I mean *always* use clickable thumbnails as your primary image.
... instead of "submit", it reads "probe my ars".
Wouldn't it be feasible to put it on a big IRIX box on the server, and run it via X on the local boxen ? I thought X was the big advantage of *nix based systems, so you didn't *have* to load every app locally - just once, on a centrally maintained box.
Seemed like a nice bloke, fairly genuine, and with some "big picture" views.
"The terms of the settlement were not disclosed, but Greenspun has since purchased an RV and an airplane". So at least we know he did OK! Beats me why RH bought the company, when they could have brought in - openacs
How to implement Free Software and Linux in an MS network, gradually replacing every single component from desktop, to DNS, to file sharing and printing to email, to crypto, to calendaring, to webdav, to supporting the now "legacy" apps (using a variety of emulators).
I already have that, I was looking for it to be included in the core package, a la Zaurus.
I've been waiting for this OS release, because I expected the JVM to come along with it. I see no mention of java on the site.
'nuff said !
I always wondered where the cool name was from.
... was not even a desk at all. It was some kind of frame that you sat "in", with footrests, and most of the computer components suspended on small platforms. Looked like a jungle gym at a kids playground, but seemed very workable. I think I saw it on discovery channel, and supposedly the mfr. was selling it for around $2-300. Of course, since then, I've been unable to locate one.
I asked them to include the subscription in their "professional" edition, somewhat like they used to with their previous incarnation of RHN. I work at a business that a) doesn't have an account with RH (we buy from a vendor) b) doesn't have a business credit card. I don't want to use my own credit card and expense it, nor do I want to go through the rigmarole of setting up and account. This change doesn't impact me much.
Remember the OS/2 windows compatibility layer? All MS did was tweak windows till applications woudn't run and OS/2 completely lost that benefit.
and that comes direct from AOL. Other than their online front end, how many closed source products do AOL have ? Hey - prove me wrong - or I'll stick with my opinion that it's nothing like MS buying RedHat.
... is GPL'd, and frankly, excellent. Explain that! (if you want to know what AOLserver is, just use a search engine). I don't like monopolies, as much as the next guy, but I got into Linux for the technical aspects of it, I don't see it getting anything but better.