Nice troll. 0% of any place I've worked at uses WordStar, but I had no problem applying general wordprocessings skills to WordPerfect, then Word and then OpenOffice - with no re-training for any of the transitions.
SUSE is a GREAT distribution... It just isn't 100% free like some.
SUSE is free without the support. The support is what makes it worthwhile to pay Novell, and unlike Microsoft, Novell actually do deliver on the support they sell. Furthermore, once SUSE Linux is installed, if Novell goes bad or falls short of expectations, it is still possible to contract a different IT support company without having to migrate to a new operating system. The GPL does not give Novell any right to stop their customers from switching to another IT support company. Maybe they'll have to stop using ZENworks and groupwise though - might be some lock-in there, but no lock-in for file formats or desktop apps.
Isn't that the point of schools? Teach people how to learn for themselves?
No. The point of schools is to create good little conforming consumers/drones. If you want your children to be taught how to think you'll need to do it yourself.
Thank you. I was going to post a similar reply. I'm thinking back to the late eighties. Back then, there were lots of viruses for MS-DOS, borne by floppy disks (very few PCs were networked then).
1. The number of Linux boxes in the world in 2005 is probably greater than the number of MS-DOS boxes in 1989, and yet the number of MS-DOS viruses in the wild 1989 is greater than the number of Linux viruses in the wild in 2005. Given that the Linux boxes in 2005 are networked, you would expect viruses to spread faster. Instead, there are hardly any.
2. I have a hunch that there are more Apache servers than IIS servers directly connected to the Internet (although plenty of IIS intranet servers). Which is more vulnerable?
They replaced those 3270 terminals with - guess what?
Windows PCs running a 3270 emulator! Walk into any bank or call centre, and chance are you will see Windows PCs running 3270 emulators. I use it at work every day.
Anyway - my memory to share: circa 1985 (I was about 12) - being given 200 lines to write out for homework as a punishment. Since my writing is quite poor I asked if I could type it. Teacher agreed.
Got home and typed 3 lines: 10 FOR I = 1 TO 200 20 LPRINT "I must not talk while the teacher is talking"(or something like that) 30 NEXT
My parents, who had taught me loops not long before, thought it was hilarious (well, Mum convinced Dad that it was okay).
That's because legally speaking piracy isn't "stealing", it's "copyright infringement"
*ahem* legally speaking piracy is any illegals act of violence or detention, or any act of depredation, committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or a private aircraft, commited on the high seas.[1]
Copyright infringement may be wrong in most cases, but it is not the same as piracy.
[1] United Nations Convention of the Sea - Article 101
Am I the only one here that uses Free software partly because I don't want to infringe the copyright of non-Free software vendors?
I don't want to pay for it, so instead of violating their copyright, I use alternatives provided by a community that allows me to use their product for free.
Theme parks aren't my thing. (If I ever visit America I'd want to see natural wonders like the Grand Canyon, Rocky Mountains, Yellowstone Park and the Niagra Falls.) The idea that dense crowds at theme parks make an attractive target for terrorists puts me off even more. I don't think a suicide bomber is going to care if his finger measurements stay on file after he's blown himself up.
Same thing here: if you don't bother to look up the basic admission requirements to a private theme park before buying your tickets, then you've just paid for a valuable life lesson.
So this requirement is clearly stated when you buy the tickets?
"Folder" rolls off the tongue more easily, being only 2 syllables as opposed to 4 syllables in "directory". OTOH, in written form when posting on *nix mailing lists, I shorten it to "dir" as in "How do I do XYZ to all the files in dir 'foo'?"
When telling my wife where I saved a document, I tell her what "folder" it's in because that's the metaphor her gui (kde) uses. I remember some desktop gui I used back in the eighties used drawers rather than folders. Can't recall where I saw that.
IBM produce hardware that ran software. Other companies produced a clone of that hardware to be able to run the same software. Software being the key to what people wanted. They could care less who made the machine as long as they could buy the software they want....In the end people just want to run what software they want
People think they want specific software, what they really want is specific functionality (including perhaps look and feel).
At the moment, certain proprietary software vendors have software that is perceived to be the only software that provides certain functionality. If people start to discover they can get the same functionality from different vendors, including OSS projects (eg OpenOffice, Mozilla), then things will change.
Guilty or not, the Powers That Be will still make an example of you. They have to be seen to be doing something about a perceived problem. This applies to dope planted in your luggage and illegal porn planted on your PC.
As a thread discussing [l]users and computers grows longer, the probability that someone will make a car analogy approaches one.
The misuse of home computers may cause annoyance, but a home computer can't run someone over and kill them!
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Unless Gramma wants to use IRC, I suppose you could block outbound connections to port 6666 and 6667 (or whatever IRC uses).
If she does want to use IRC, I suppose you could set up her IRC client to point to some other port on the firewall, which could run some kinda IRC proxy. This is starting to sound complicated. This is why I don't do tech support for family.
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Besides, maybe someone thought the point behind my sarcasm was indeed insightful?
I thought it was insightful. Unfortunately I don't get mod points anymore.
Nice troll. 0% of any place I've worked at uses WordStar, but I had no problem applying general wordprocessings skills to WordPerfect, then Word and then OpenOffice - with no re-training for any of the transitions.
SUSE is a GREAT distribution ... It just isn't 100% free like some.
SUSE is free without the support. The support is what makes it worthwhile to pay Novell, and unlike Microsoft, Novell actually do deliver on the support they sell.
Furthermore, once SUSE Linux is installed, if Novell goes bad or falls short of expectations, it is still possible to contract a different IT support company without having to migrate to a new operating system. The GPL does not give Novell any right to stop their customers from switching to another IT support company. Maybe they'll have to stop using ZENworks and groupwise though - might be some lock-in there, but no lock-in for file formats or desktop apps.
Isn't that the point of schools? Teach people how to learn for themselves?
No. The point of schools is to create good little conforming consumers/drones.
If you want your children to be taught how to think you'll need to do it yourself.
Thank you. I was going to post a similar reply.
I'm thinking back to the late eighties. Back then, there were lots of viruses for MS-DOS, borne by floppy disks (very few PCs were networked then).
1. The number of Linux boxes in the world in 2005 is probably greater than the number of MS-DOS boxes in 1989, and yet the number of MS-DOS viruses in the wild 1989 is greater than the number of Linux viruses in the wild in 2005. Given that the Linux boxes in 2005 are networked, you would expect viruses to spread faster. Instead, there are hardly any.
2. I have a hunch that there are more Apache servers than IIS servers directly connected to the Internet (although plenty of IIS intranet servers). Which is more vulnerable?
getting used to the slop they call food
What's that soup called that contains lotsa beetroot? I love beetroot.
'i', 'j' and 'y' (prev 'ij' or 'ÿ') all come via Latin from the greek 'iota' which comes from the semitic 'yod'.
I think. I might be mistaken.
They replaced those 3270 terminals with - guess what?
Windows PCs running a 3270 emulator! Walk into any bank or call centre, and chance are you will see Windows PCs running 3270 emulators.
I use it at work every day.
Anyway - my memory to share:
circa 1985 (I was about 12) - being given 200 lines to write out for homework as a punishment. Since my writing is quite poor I asked if I could type it. Teacher agreed.
Got home and typed 3 lines:
10 FOR I = 1 TO 200
20 LPRINT "I must not talk while the teacher is talking" (or something like that)
30 NEXT
My parents, who had taught me loops not long before, thought it was hilarious (well, Mum convinced Dad that it was okay).
Good call.
Just what Linux needs...
Competition!
Open Source projects are not necessarily competition. OSS cross-polinates if the respective licenses of each project allow it.
That's because legally speaking piracy isn't "stealing", it's "copyright infringement"
*ahem* legally speaking piracy is any illegals act of violence or detention, or any act of depredation, committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or a private aircraft, commited on the high seas.[1]
Copyright infringement may be wrong in most cases, but it is not the same as piracy.
[1] United Nations Convention of the Sea - Article 101
Am I the only one here that uses Free software partly because I don't want to infringe the copyright of non-Free software vendors?
I don't want to pay for it, so instead of violating their copyright, I use alternatives provided by a community that allows me to use their product for free.
Surely I'm not the only one.
Who is Schezuan and why do so many people want to eat her?
Theme parks aren't my thing. (If I ever visit America I'd want to see natural wonders like the Grand Canyon, Rocky Mountains, Yellowstone Park and the Niagra Falls.) The idea that dense crowds at theme parks make an attractive target for terrorists puts me off even more. I don't think a suicide bomber is going to care if his finger measurements stay on file after he's blown himself up.
And I hope a terrorists gets in and blows up tons of people. You will deserve it.
Even if Disney deserves it - do those people deserve it?
Same thing here: if you don't bother to look up the basic admission requirements to a private theme park before buying your tickets, then you've just paid for a valuable life lesson.
So this requirement is clearly stated when you buy the tickets?
"Folder" rolls off the tongue more easily, being only 2 syllables as opposed to 4 syllables in "directory". OTOH, in written form when posting on *nix mailing lists, I shorten it to "dir" as in "How do I do XYZ to all the files in dir 'foo'?"
When telling my wife where I saved a document, I tell her what "folder" it's in because that's the metaphor her gui (kde) uses.
I remember some desktop gui I used back in the eighties used drawers rather than folders. Can't recall where I saw that.
And Xserve RAID for storage. Comparable in price to any non-Apple hardware in the same class.
IBM produce hardware that ran software. Other companies produced a clone of that hardware to be able to run the same software. Software being the key to what people wanted. They could care less who made the machine as long as they could buy the software they want. ...In the end people just want to run what software they want
People think they want specific software, what they really want is specific functionality (including perhaps look and feel).
At the moment, certain proprietary software vendors have software that is perceived to be the only software that provides certain functionality. If people start to discover they can get the same functionality from different vendors, including OSS projects (eg OpenOffice, Mozilla), then things will change.
Can't you put the new ppp.conf on a disk with a script to copy it to the right place, and post the disk to her (overnight mail)?
dd and /dev/urandom are your friend. See my previous post on this topic.
Guilty or not, the Powers That Be will still make an example of you. They have to be seen to be doing something about a perceived problem. This applies to dope planted in your luggage and illegal porn planted on your PC.
Theoretically it is still possible to recover the undelying data that was over-written. In practice it is very expensive and not 100% guaranteed.
The misuse of home computers may cause annoyance, but a home computer can't run someone over and kill them!
Unless Gramma wants to use IRC, I suppose you could block outbound connections to port 6666 and 6667 (or whatever IRC uses).
If she does want to use IRC, I suppose you could set up her IRC client to point to some other port on the firewall, which could run some kinda IRC proxy. This is starting to sound complicated. This is why I don't do tech support for family.