Has anyone in the US used the NFC features of a new Android phone with Google Wallet? Looking at the setup it looks like it works like these cards, except you have to punch the password into the phone itself, so there is no way for the merchant to know what it is. This seems like it would be more secure. However I did notice the app would let you remember the password, which pretty much wipes out any possibility of security.
There are no merchants near me that support this, or perhaps it hasn't rolled out yet.
I did buy a handful of stand-alone NFC badges to test the phone itself out with. On the Nexus 5 you need to have a 1cm spot on the phone in direct contact with the badge for a few seconds in order for it to read. Way shorter range than RFID badges, which kind of limits the badge's usefulness, but there is no possibility of doing a "pocket read". More like "Right On Top of Field Communication" instead of "Near Field..." And even then, I would need to punch my password in on the app for payment to happen.
Perhaps the range thing is because I am using passive badges, and the active one at a retailer would work from a few inches away. I stuck a badge on my car's docking cradle, and it doesn't read because the badge is touching the edge of the phone instead of that 1cm spot on the back.
If you DO use it at an ATM, how do you authorize it? Mine requires a PIN to use at an ATM.
I believe in that case you cannot use the credit card at an ATM.
For me this is a feature, as I would never use the rapey cash transfer fees of a credit card; so anyone attempting to use my card at an ATM is committing fraud, and I believe the card will get eaten by the machine.
We're currently ahead, but my first chip-and-pin card got skimmed in what apparently was a software hack on an XP-based ATM. I think it's an arms race, and in this case the armament is less secure and less protective of the individual card-holder.
Exactly, your info is only as secure as the computer systems at the retailer/processor.
No, but this was a regional bank that probably worked on more shady operating procedures. My new bank was shocked that my old bank did not offer to cover it all until the investigation was cleared up. I did not know this was even an option. Instead I sat without any savings for six months.
Anyhow, Canada tends to have more sane laws than the United States. Also, I think it was a combination of policy and poor customer service on my (former) bank's part. Now that I am with a new bank, they have helped by setting up multiple accounts so that nobody could write a check against my main checking account and clean me out.
In practice, it is far more secure to use a written signature than a 4-digit password that is exposed to eavesdroppers, video cameras, interception devices and a plethora of other attacks. That's secure for the person, you understand: it prevents the bank from saying "you must have lost your pin".
Bull, freaking, shit. In person transaction processors do not even check signatures, much less being possible for online transactions. If someone has your card number and experation and the security code... they can charge as much as they like. (Thanks, Target)
Banks (at least in the USA) also do not look at the signature on checks. In fact they don't even look at the name or address on the check. If the merchant accepts it, they will take the money out of the account and it becomes the account holder's problem. When this happened to me, it took no small amount of screaming at the bank to get my funds restored. (And were immediately transferred to another bank.)
I don't know what VLC player is, but any laptop that allows its speakers to be damage by software has a design flaw. Why is it that companies will try their damnedest to screw their customers over until publicly shamed with a bad-pr article like this?
I said "DIgg had" past tense as I just assumed it no longer existed. Surprisingly it does still exist! And it looks like they moved form the shitty blog-style format to a shitty amalgamation of ars' frontpage and every other goofy column based site.
Also I had forgotten about their "user moderated frontpage" concept. As much as we bitch about slashdot editors and what shows up on the frontpage... Digg shows how this cannot be left to the masses.
Also it solves nothing when they put beta in as the live site and remove the "classic" site.
Presumably that will not last long when they see readers flocking away. But who knows, the corporate masters at Dice are probably demanding new readers; and somehow the staff thinks they will acheive this by turning it into a combination of the lack of a user interface for comments that ars has, with the shitty front page that Digg had.
... But if it is like last time, and my wife observes that I'm talking to the same dozen guys all of the time, it's not going to work.
What do you think?
Also I will be happy to create hundreds of sock puppet accounts on the site. Though I cannot guarantee their conversation will be terribly interesting. Hmm, what is the current version of Eliza...
What would probably result is that Slashdot backs down on becoming suck, which would sink your site once again.
However if you (or someone with enough clout) doesn't act, then Slashdot's current management will stick to the plan of turning into beta shit. Otherwise if they scrap whatever work they did on the beta, it will appear as wasted money to the corporate masters at Dice, and heads will likely roll.
I think GP meant that they could build a solar plant in NV for powering US grid. not India Anyway NV may have betteer weather for solar generally, I don't know how much a solar plant works in the monsoon season.
It's a dry lake bed. Presumably it is dry for a reason.
Intelligent design and creationism are two very different things. ID revolves around there being no natural way to explain the origins of life.There is no natural way to create proteins, DNA, and RNA with life being present. The problem is that the amino acids that are required must be in a solution with 95% left handed amino acids to form. When amino acids are created both left and right are present there is currently no know way to naturally filter them. Further percentages of left handed amino acids higher then 60 have not been observed in nature. With our current knowledge it is more likely that an intelligent creator or a "seed" from a living organism on a different planet started life as opposed to spontaneous generation.
Except that everything you said is wrong. Nice end-run at the Gish Gallop.
Yep, that totally reverses the meaning I understood from your post. We are on the same page here.
I once worked in an office where headphones were banned because one time one guy failed to answer his phone because he had headphones on. (And the boss was an asshole, but that kind of goes without saying in this case.) The result was everyone putting speakers up and cranking them way up to try to drown out the inane chatter across the too cramped office. Apparently we were children and everyone must be punished because one person made a mistake. This "helicopter bossing" is the same.
Lucky for my immediate coworkers that they are fans of Tool.
And if that evidence is illegally collected, it should be thrown out. "But we just know he is guilty, and we cant tell you why we know because national security" is the excuse of the NSA.
Yeah, I know it sucks that this will let some criminals go free, but not holding law enforcement accountable is what led us to the erosion of freedoms we all currently have.
and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation;
. It's in the sixth amendment. Parallel construction can't be legal because it denies you being informed of the cause of the accusation, a possible cause for the accusation domes not count, the Constitution says THE cause.
The CAUSE of the accusation is that you were running drugs. And that fact came to the attention of law enforcement.
Guilty until proven innocent? How does that work? We are putting you on trial for running drugs because you ran drugs.
Why re-educate? I know plenty of extremely talented musicians, painters, brewers and other skilled people that are doing other things because they want a stable paycheck. The worst part is, many of these people are working jobs they do not enjoy because they need the pay.
I can't see these being useful. You get a lot of data from a lot of employees and eventually it's just going to be too much data to be effectively useful, hampering creativity and the ability to solve problems. Then there's the other problem, let's say this works perfectly and only perfect employees are kept, who pays for the employees who can no longer get jobs because they aren't willing to be automatons?
"Perfect Employees" Of course this this definition of perfect is a bit swayed towards people that show up, sit at their desks, do not converse with their coworkers, and spend the minimum amount of time in the restroom or on lunch break.
No mention of if the people are actually getting any work accomplished. Talk about inappropriate selection pressure. At best it finds people that are good at subverting the process.
Well I am fine with giving the state money from the federal coffers to help the needy out. However building a 300ft tall penis\H\H\H\H\H\H tower that nobody is going to use is not going to help the plight of the poor in any way.
Republicans rail against government waste and against welfare... unless it is getting directed into their pockets.
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You are using doge shell.
Has anyone in the US used the NFC features of a new Android phone with Google Wallet? Looking at the setup it looks like it works like these cards, except you have to punch the password into the phone itself, so there is no way for the merchant to know what it is. This seems like it would be more secure. However I did notice the app would let you remember the password, which pretty much wipes out any possibility of security.
There are no merchants near me that support this, or perhaps it hasn't rolled out yet.
I did buy a handful of stand-alone NFC badges to test the phone itself out with. On the Nexus 5 you need to have a 1cm spot on the phone in direct contact with the badge for a few seconds in order for it to read. Way shorter range than RFID badges, which kind of limits the badge's usefulness, but there is no possibility of doing a "pocket read". More like "Right On Top of Field Communication" instead of "Near Field..." And even then, I would need to punch my password in on the app for payment to happen.
Perhaps the range thing is because I am using passive badges, and the active one at a retailer would work from a few inches away. I stuck a badge on my car's docking cradle, and it doesn't read because the badge is touching the edge of the phone instead of that 1cm spot on the back.
If you DO use it at an ATM, how do you authorize it?
Mine requires a PIN to use at an ATM.
I believe in that case you cannot use the credit card at an ATM.
For me this is a feature, as I would never use the rapey cash transfer fees of a credit card; so anyone attempting to use my card at an ATM is committing fraud, and I believe the card will get eaten by the machine.
We're currently ahead, but my first chip-and-pin card got skimmed in what apparently was a software hack on an XP-based ATM. I think it's an arms race, and in this case the armament is less secure and less protective of the individual card-holder.
Exactly, your info is only as secure as the computer systems at the retailer/processor.
Were you in Minneapolis, by any chance?
No, but this was a regional bank that probably worked on more shady operating procedures. My new bank was shocked that my old bank did not offer to cover it all until the investigation was cleared up. I did not know this was even an option. Instead I sat without any savings for six months.
Anyhow, Canada tends to have more sane laws than the United States. Also, I think it was a combination of policy and poor customer service on my (former) bank's part. Now that I am with a new bank, they have helped by setting up multiple accounts so that nobody could write a check against my main checking account and clean me out.
In practice, it is far more secure to use a written signature than a 4-digit password that is exposed to eavesdroppers, video cameras, interception devices and a plethora of other attacks. That's secure for the person, you understand: it prevents the bank from saying "you must have lost your pin".
Bull, freaking, shit. In person transaction processors do not even check signatures, much less being possible for online transactions. If someone has your card number and experation and the security code... they can charge as much as they like. (Thanks, Target)
Banks (at least in the USA) also do not look at the signature on checks. In fact they don't even look at the name or address on the check. If the merchant accepts it, they will take the money out of the account and it becomes the account holder's problem. When this happened to me, it took no small amount of screaming at the bank to get my funds restored. (And were immediately transferred to another bank.)
I don't know what VLC player is, but any laptop that allows its speakers to be damage by software has a design flaw. Why is it that companies will try their damnedest to screw their customers over until publicly shamed with a bad-pr article like this?
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I said "DIgg had" past tense as I just assumed it no longer existed. Surprisingly it does still exist! And it looks like they moved form the shitty blog-style format to a shitty amalgamation of ars' frontpage and every other goofy column based site.
Also I had forgotten about their "user moderated frontpage" concept. As much as we bitch about slashdot editors and what shows up on the frontpage... Digg shows how this cannot be left to the masses.
Also it solves nothing when they put beta in as the live site and remove the "classic" site.
Presumably that will not last long when they see readers flocking away. But who knows, the corporate masters at Dice are probably demanding new readers; and somehow the staff thinks they will acheive this by turning it into a combination of the lack of a user interface for comments that ars has, with the shitty front page that Digg had.
I am not sure, but it probably runs this website.
Hi,
... But if it is like last time, and my wife observes that I'm talking to the same dozen guys all of the time, it's not going to work.
What do you think?
Also I will be happy to create hundreds of sock puppet accounts on the site. Though I cannot guarantee their conversation will be terribly interesting. Hmm, what is the current version of Eliza...
What do I think? I have no idea who you are, but I do know this: you had enough vision to see the future demise of slashdot.
I'm in. But you'll have to update your site. It seems to be lacking content at the moment ;-)
WSG
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What would probably result is that Slashdot backs down on becoming suck, which would sink your site once again.
However if you (or someone with enough clout) doesn't act, then Slashdot's current management will stick to the plan of turning into beta shit. Otherwise if they scrap whatever work they did on the beta, it will appear as wasted money to the corporate masters at Dice, and heads will likely roll.
Your post is 80% controversial.
I think GP meant that they could build a solar plant in NV for powering US grid. not India
Anyway NV may have betteer weather for solar generally, I don't know how much a solar plant works in the monsoon season.
It's a dry lake bed. Presumably it is dry for a reason.
Much more different if you sort the words by letter.
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Intelligent design and creationism are two very different things. ID revolves around there being no natural way to explain the origins of life.There is no natural way to create proteins, DNA, and RNA with life being present. The problem is that the amino acids that are required must be in a solution with 95% left handed amino acids to form. When amino acids are created both left and right are present there is currently no know way to naturally filter them. Further percentages of left handed amino acids higher then 60 have not been observed in nature. With our current knowledge it is more likely that an intelligent creator or a "seed" from a living organism on a different planet started life as opposed to spontaneous generation.
Except that everything you said is wrong. Nice end-run at the Gish Gallop.
Will be a divine creation.
Or a divine comedy.
Yep, that totally reverses the meaning I understood from your post. We are on the same page here.
I once worked in an office where headphones were banned because one time one guy failed to answer his phone because he had headphones on. (And the boss was an asshole, but that kind of goes without saying in this case.) The result was everyone putting speakers up and cranking them way up to try to drown out the inane chatter across the too cramped office. Apparently we were children and everyone must be punished because one person made a mistake. This "helicopter bossing" is the same.
Lucky for my immediate coworkers that they are fans of Tool.
And if that evidence is illegally collected, it should be thrown out. "But we just know he is guilty, and we cant tell you why we know because national security" is the excuse of the NSA.
Yeah, I know it sucks that this will let some criminals go free, but not holding law enforcement accountable is what led us to the erosion of freedoms we all currently have.
Sure there is
and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation;
. It's in the sixth amendment. Parallel construction can't be legal because it denies you being informed of the cause of the accusation, a possible cause for the accusation domes not count, the Constitution says THE cause.
The CAUSE of the accusation is that you were running drugs. And that fact came to the attention of law enforcement.
Guilty until proven innocent? How does that work? We are putting you on trial for running drugs because you ran drugs.
Why re-educate? I know plenty of extremely talented musicians, painters, brewers and other skilled people that are doing other things because they want a stable paycheck. The worst part is, many of these people are working jobs they do not enjoy because they need the pay.
I can't see these being useful. You get a lot of data from a lot of employees and eventually it's just going to be too much data to be effectively useful, hampering creativity and the ability to solve problems. Then there's the other problem, let's say this works perfectly and only perfect employees are kept, who pays for the employees who can no longer get jobs because they aren't willing to be automatons?
"Perfect Employees" Of course this this definition of perfect is a bit swayed towards people that show up, sit at their desks, do not converse with their coworkers, and spend the minimum amount of time in the restroom or on lunch break.
No mention of if the people are actually getting any work accomplished. Talk about inappropriate selection pressure. At best it finds people that are good at subverting the process.
It doesn't work, Flash can still take down Firefox pretty regularly
My Linux machine does not suffer from this... flash does not work at all. And nothing of value was lost.
Well I am fine with giving the state money from the federal coffers to help the needy out. However building a 300ft tall penis\H\H\H\H\H\H tower that nobody is going to use is not going to help the plight of the poor in any way.
Republicans rail against government waste and against welfare... unless it is getting directed into their pockets.