Well, sure. Except that in this case they KNOW that I don't read my emails, they are still standing on their mail server!
In the credit card example, they send a notice but they have no mean of knowing if I got it or not. In this case, they know.
The CC example also doesn't work, because there is some kind of liability: I spent some money. Here, I just use an unlimited service. What the heck are they bugging me about?
It would be like my CC company (Say Wells Fargo) that would send me a notice that if I go back to the Bank Of America, they'll cut me off.
So they notify you by email, right? That is interesting that they claim to cut your service if you have 3 notice...
Well, giving that my ISP doesn't have my email address (And I don't use the one they provided me, I don't even remember the username/pwd) I don't know how that could work out for me... I can't read the emails they send me!!!
Well, when you drive and you look in front of you, your peripheral vision allows you to see a little bit of what's going on at your left and right. When you look at the passenger seat, your left side is effectively blinded. How hard is that to understand?
my window control, my mirrors, heck I can't even look at my speedometer or gas guage All these objects are IN FRONT OF YOU. So there, the peripheral vision is working fine. Plus, all these are extremely simple: Looking for an indicator, a car, something simple.
On the other hand, you woudn't read a novel while driving, right? Even if it is in front of you, right? That's because a novel will need more than a few milliseconds to be perceived, unlike a mirror, fuel gauge, speedometer.
A map has been categorized in the category of the books, computers, etc.. as an object that does require too much attention to be perceived.
I have a few questions, for the ones that did RTFA:
1. Is there any kind of digital output ? 2. What format is used to transfer audio? MP3, WMA, AAC,... ? 3. If answer to 1. is yes, is there some kind of DRM or we can record stuff onto one's computer?
they be out in the open where they can be discovered by anyone looking for them
Ever heard of Looking for a Needle in a Haystack? Both the needle and the haystack are out in the open, and yet, it isn't trivial. Hmm, are all Haystacks closed when we thought they were open?
The real puzzlement (Well not really anymore) is that the parent stupidity was modded Insightful. I wish we could mod moderators directly...
Oh well, enough ranting. A new year is coming, let it grow...
That has always been the strategy of microsoft, this is not news. They let utilities flourish on their system, grab the more popular/useful ones and make then a feature (more or less complete), leaving the utilities die of having no added value after that. They did it with WinAmp, CD-Writing programs, HDD compresion on the fly, and many others. They will keep on doing it, it works!
In other words, to tell it the/. way:
1. Let someone have a nice idea and develop a small utility for my OS 2. When mature, make the product a feature of my OS 3. Profit!!!
The really scary thing with all that is that we are all going to die faster than expected! We now loose 1 second of existence every single year!!!!!!
Talk about a WMD! 5 sec lost * 5 billion people = 792 years of life destroyed in 5 years. It's like if Earth just killed 10 people. We should invade right now, before next year when all that will happen again.
You might want to have a look at http://encarta.msn.com/. While not everything is free, there is a huge amount of content online. I was also thinking about http://www.everything2.com/, not quite comparable to Wikipedia, but pretty good too.
While I agree with you over the interest of having a free encyclopedia, I would object that for many occidental countries, knowledge is not out of reach anyways. Moreover, Wikipedia is not the only one of a kind. Why saving this one and not the others? Is that interesting that we have multiple Free encyclopedia? And then how many?
Well, al little too easy. You are bashing AC because he pull out random numbers, but you do the same. You could, with the same numbers, deduce that California is less wealthy than the US, even though it is not true, just because it has less people.
US: 263 million people France: 58 million people
US GDP/people: 10,082/263=38.33 FR GDP/people: 1,510/58=26.03
Well, all of a sudden, US are 1.47x better than France, not 10x.
You just proved once more than you can make numbers tell you anything. Thanks.
Give it up, get a cushy well-paying job and simply stop caring about anyone but yourself.
Why does a well-paying job and caring about anyone but yourself are always linked in people's mind? I mean, why not getting a well-paying job and with the extra money maintain Wikipedia? I agree that my post was confusing, but by "Give it up" I don't mean drop it, I mean give up putting 100% of your time in it.
Don't you think trying to compare the Red Cross with WikiPedia is pushing it a little too far? I mean, as much as I like Wikipedia, I fail to see it as something near the importance of the Red Cross.
The nature of the site is irrelevant. If you can't support a free Encyclopedia, then don't do one. I appreciate the devotion, hard work and all, but we are in a country that requires money to survive. Crying for help is maybe going to give them enough money for the next server but what about the following one?
If you don't make money with what you are doing, either: 1. Be poor. 2. Give it up and find a job.
If you don't want option 1, then give it up. It might be nice and beautiful, but it is unsustainable.
The lottery doesn't lie to you. They make some people (other than themselves) rich. They take few from many to give a lot to few, where sammers take a lot from few.
The term "Web Technologies" usually refers to interactive web sites. That's why HTML and HTTP are some of the Web Technologies, aren't they? You obviously don't even know what you are talking about...
The term didn't exist when I started programming HTML back in '96 or even when I was coding servlets in '98 When you type "didn't exist" you obviously mean "I hadn't heard about". I excuse your tendency to generalize your own experience to reality.
Perhaps they meant web browsers and HTTPD servers, but that's not what they said. When HR usually say "7+ years in Web technologies", they just want to make sure that the candidate has an in-depth knowledge of a) the web technologies and b) the techologies they rely on (which you seem to exclude from the Web Technologies): HTTP and HTML, to cite two of them. I think it is fair to say that I (for example, I am just one of them) have 7+ years experience in the web technologies.
Since Netscape 2.0 was released in 1996, it is fair to say that Javascript will soon be 8. Dynamic Web content (such as CGI) was common even in the 1995's. Wiki is one example of that. So long for your "interactive websites" limitation.
According to the Computer History, 1990 is the year the first commercial Internet dial-up access provider comes online. And in 1993, Fifty World Wide Web servers are known to exist. Hmmm, that put web technologies more than 10 as of today. Finally, this 7+ years doesn't sound so pathetic now.
Sounds to me like you're too insecure in your own skills to find the humor in the "10+ years in Java" type job ads. Well, the 10+ years in tech X doesn't surprise me if the tech is 15. In this case, it's 7+ and the tech is 10-12. Sounds about an experience someone could actually have.
Sure, you could probably find some sort of rationalization Like 10>7? Yes, I found it.
but the truth is that these things are written by HR departments that don't know any better. Not all people in a HR department are idiots. While I can see some funny ads from time to time, this one in particular wasn't stupid.
In other words, don't be such a stick in the mud. It's funny! Laugh! Humour is made of plenty of things. I am actually laughing at your ignorance of the history of the web technologies.
7+ years in Web technologies What "Web Technologies" do they want? CGI scripting!? Out of a Java programmer?!
It's not because you weren't on the Web 7 years ago that nobody was. And yes, they could have learned.Net and Java in the meantime.
BTW, Web technologies started with webservers and web browsers. Not with CGI scripting.
I don't see anything funny, insighful or even relevant in the parent post. Just a newbie that probably thinks that the web was created when he discovered it.
1. Here in the real world, I never said that. I said they werent EXCLUSIVLY so.
My bad. I'm loosing patience explaining to you that 2+2=4.
2. Here in the real world, people are held accountable to *all* things they say, not just the first post with the rest being ignorable. Right. I didn't say anything else. What you did was taking a sentence I wrote out of its context. I was pointing out that it was not my original post and that I was explaining to you - in this 'silly' sentence - my example. Let's take my rice example again:
I said: I like people that eat a lot of rice (Chinese, Indians, etc...) You replied: I am sick and tired of this assumption on the part of people that you can make a fair one-to-one mapping between type of food and the nationality. I then replied: I did not make this assumption. I meant that a person eating rice is either Indian, Chinese or something else. I don't think that this assumption is any wrong, especially since I specified "etc...";-)
There, the smiley should have indicated you something: That I did fully understand the stupidity of that sentence, and the fact that it was obvious. I understand that the sentence basically meant: Someone eating rice can be any nationality, which is so obvious, it is stupid to mention. But that was to make sure you did understand that my previous example didn't have the implication you meant.
Sure thing. North Corea has been pacifist since Americans went there, as recent news has proven to us. Also Afghanistan has been a lot more pacifist after the Americans went there, as recent events also shown.
I think you're right. the rest of the civilized world is more secure. As long as you don't include all countries that Americans went to war against, their close neighbors and their possible future actions.
Here's your comment: A bandwidth hog is using either P2P, running servers or something else. I don't think that this assumption is any wrong, especially since I specified "etc...";-) Wrong. That was my answer to your flame about BW hogs not being P2P/server users. Here is my original comment:
The problem is that 5% of the users are using 90% of the bandwidth (P2P, running servers, etc...).
As you can see, the "P2P, running servers, etc..." is just here to illustrate the users using 90% of the bandwidth. Illustrate. As an example. How is that pointless?
It's like saying: I like people that eat a lot of rice (Chinese, Indians, etc...).
How is that pointless? Pointing out that Indians and Chinese people eat a lt of rice is just here to support and illustrate the people that eat a lot of rice.
Anyways, enough time wasted trying to explain to you the concept of using an example.
That's because you haven't used p2p software in a while. Last time I tried, I barely had time to double click on the files, they were on my HDD a few seconds later. That's less than 3 minutes for the latest AC/DC (Which I bought before BTW), in a very decent 192kbps MP3 format. This time includes the search, double clicks and download.
Though it is a while I didn;t log in to WinMX, so times may have changed with the lawsuits and all...
Slashdot Mirror
Well, sure. Except that in this case they KNOW that I don't read my emails, they are still standing on their mail server!
In the credit card example, they send a notice but they have no mean of knowing if I got it or not. In this case, they know.
The CC example also doesn't work, because there is some kind of liability: I spent some money. Here, I just use an unlimited service. What the heck are they bugging me about?
It would be like my CC company (Say Wells Fargo) that would send me a notice that if I go back to the Bank Of America, they'll cut me off.
So they notify you by email, right? That is interesting that they claim to cut your service if you have 3 notice...
Well, giving that my ISP doesn't have my email address (And I don't use the one they provided me, I don't even remember the username/pwd) I don't know how that could work out for me... I can't read the emails they send me!!!
It's something called PERIPHERAL VISION
Well, when you drive and you look in front of you, your peripheral vision allows you to see a little bit of what's going on at your left and right. When you look at the passenger seat, your left side is effectively blinded. How hard is that to understand?
my window control, my mirrors, heck I can't even look at my speedometer or gas guage
All these objects are IN FRONT OF YOU. So there, the peripheral vision is working fine. Plus, all these are extremely simple: Looking for an indicator, a car, something simple.
On the other hand, you woudn't read a novel while driving, right? Even if it is in front of you, right? That's because a novel will need more than a few milliseconds to be perceived, unlike a mirror, fuel gauge, speedometer.
A map has been categorized in the category of the books, computers, etc.. as an object that does require too much attention to be perceived.
Deal with it.
Why not just preventing everyone from entering your borders? That way you are sure no one will bother you anymore.
I have a few questions, for the ones that did RTFA:
... ?
1. Is there any kind of digital output ?
2. What format is used to transfer audio? MP3, WMA, AAC,
3. If answer to 1. is yes, is there some kind of DRM or we can record stuff onto one's computer?
Parent was either a troll or a joke, no need to go into deep technical explanations ;-)
they be out in the open where they can be discovered by anyone looking for them
Ever heard of Looking for a Needle in a Haystack? Both the needle and the haystack are out in the open, and yet, it isn't trivial. Hmm, are all Haystacks closed when we thought they were open?
The real puzzlement (Well not really anymore) is that the parent stupidity was modded Insightful. I wish we could mod moderators directly...
Oh well, enough ranting. A new year is coming, let it grow...
That has always been the strategy of microsoft, this is not news. They let utilities flourish on their system, grab the more popular/useful ones and make then a feature (more or less complete), leaving the utilities die of having no added value after that. They did it with WinAmp, CD-Writing programs, HDD compresion on the fly, and many others. They will keep on doing it, it works!
/. way:
In other words, to tell it the
1. Let someone have a nice idea and develop a small utility for my OS
2. When mature, make the product a feature of my OS
3. Profit!!!
WERE ALL GONNA DIE
The really scary thing with all that is that we are all going to die faster than expected! We now loose 1 second of existence every single year!!!!!!
Talk about a WMD! 5 sec lost * 5 billion people = 792 years of life destroyed in 5 years. It's like if Earth just killed 10 people. We should invade right now, before next year when all that will happen again.
You might want to have a look at http://encarta.msn.com/. While not everything is free, there is a huge amount of content online. I was also thinking about http://www.everything2.com/, not quite comparable to Wikipedia, but pretty good too.
While I agree with you over the interest of having a free encyclopedia, I would object that for many occidental countries, knowledge is not out of reach anyways. Moreover, Wikipedia is not the only one of a kind. Why saving this one and not the others? Is that interesting that we have multiple Free encyclopedia? And then how many?
U.S. - 10.082 trillion
France - 1.51 trillion
Well, al little too easy. You are bashing AC because he pull out random numbers, but you do the same. You could, with the same numbers, deduce that California is less wealthy than the US, even though it is not true, just because it has less people.
US: 263 million people
France: 58 million people
US GDP/people: 10,082/263=38.33
FR GDP/people: 1,510/58=26.03
Well, all of a sudden, US are 1.47x better than France, not 10x.
You just proved once more than you can make numbers tell you anything. Thanks.
Give it up, get a cushy well-paying job and simply stop caring about anyone but yourself.
Why does a well-paying job and caring about anyone but yourself are always linked in people's mind? I mean, why not getting a well-paying job and with the extra money maintain Wikipedia? I agree that my post was confusing, but by "Give it up" I don't mean drop it, I mean give up putting 100% of your time in it.
Red Cross
Don't you think trying to compare the Red Cross with WikiPedia is pushing it a little too far? I mean, as much as I like Wikipedia, I fail to see it as something near the importance of the Red Cross.
The nature of the site is irrelevant. If you can't support a free Encyclopedia, then don't do one. I appreciate the devotion, hard work and all, but we are in a country that requires money to survive. Crying for help is maybe going to give them enough money for the next server but what about the following one?
If you don't make money with what you are doing, either:
1. Be poor.
2. Give it up and find a job.
If you don't want option 1, then give it up. It might be nice and beautiful, but it is unsustainable.
The lottery doesn't lie to you.
They make some people (other than themselves) rich.
They take few from many to give a lot to few, where sammers take a lot from few.
Apart from these differences, it is the same.
The term "Web Technologies" usually refers to interactive web sites.
That's why HTML and HTTP are some of the Web Technologies, aren't they? You obviously don't even know what you are talking about...
The term didn't exist when I started programming HTML back in '96 or even when I was coding servlets in '98
When you type "didn't exist" you obviously mean "I hadn't heard about". I excuse your tendency to generalize your own experience to reality.
Perhaps they meant web browsers and HTTPD servers, but that's not what they said.
When HR usually say "7+ years in Web technologies", they just want to make sure that the candidate has an in-depth knowledge of a) the web technologies and b) the techologies they rely on (which you seem to exclude from the Web Technologies): HTTP and HTML, to cite two of them. I think it is fair to say that I (for example, I am just one of them) have 7+ years experience in the web technologies.
Since Netscape 2.0 was released in 1996, it is fair to say that Javascript will soon be 8. Dynamic Web content (such as CGI) was common even in the 1995's. Wiki is one example of that. So long for your "interactive websites" limitation.
According to the Computer History, 1990 is the year the first commercial Internet dial-up access provider comes online. And in 1993, Fifty World Wide Web servers are known to exist. Hmmm, that put web technologies more than 10 as of today. Finally, this 7+ years doesn't sound so pathetic now.
Sounds to me like you're too insecure in your own skills to find the humor in the "10+ years in Java" type job ads.
Well, the 10+ years in tech X doesn't surprise me if the tech is 15. In this case, it's 7+ and the tech is 10-12. Sounds about an experience someone could actually have.
Sure, you could probably find some sort of rationalization
Like 10>7? Yes, I found it.
but the truth is that these things are written by HR departments that don't know any better.
Not all people in a HR department are idiots. While I can see some funny ads from time to time, this one in particular wasn't stupid.
In other words, don't be such a stick in the mud. It's funny! Laugh!
Humour is made of plenty of things. I am actually laughing at your ignorance of the history of the web technologies.
7+ years in Web technologies
.Net and Java in the meantime.
What "Web Technologies" do they want? CGI scripting!? Out of a Java programmer?!
It's not because you weren't on the Web 7 years ago that nobody was. And yes, they could have learned
BTW, Web technologies started with webservers and web browsers. Not with CGI scripting.
I don't see anything funny, insighful or even relevant in the parent post. Just a newbie that probably thinks that the web was created when he discovered it.
that did read: "Firefly BSD Released"?
And I thought *BSD was dying...
1. Here in the real world, I never said that. I said they werent EXCLUSIVLY so.
;-)
My bad. I'm loosing patience explaining to you that 2+2=4.
2. Here in the real world, people are held accountable to *all* things they say, not just the first post with the rest being ignorable.
Right. I didn't say anything else. What you did was taking a sentence I wrote out of its context. I was pointing out that it was not my original post and that I was explaining to you - in this 'silly' sentence - my example. Let's take my rice example again:
I said: I like people that eat a lot of rice (Chinese, Indians, etc...)
You replied: I am sick and tired of this assumption on the part of people that you can make a fair one-to-one mapping between type of food and the nationality.
I then replied: I did not make this assumption. I meant that a person eating rice is either Indian, Chinese or something else. I don't think that this assumption is any wrong, especially since I specified "etc..."
There, the smiley should have indicated you something: That I did fully understand the stupidity of that sentence, and the fact that it was obvious. I understand that the sentence basically meant: Someone eating rice can be any nationality, which is so obvious, it is stupid to mention. But that was to make sure you did understand that my previous example didn't have the implication you meant.
Please don't reply.
Sure thing. North Corea has been pacifist since Americans went there, as recent news has proven to us. Also Afghanistan has been a lot more pacifist after the Americans went there, as recent events also shown.
I think you're right. the rest of the civilized world is more secure. As long as you don't include all countries that Americans went to war against, their close neighbors and their possible future actions.
A bandwidth hog is using either P2P, running servers or something else. I don't think that this assumption is any wrong, especially since I specified "etc..."
Wrong. That was my answer to your flame about BW hogs not being P2P/server users. Here is my original comment:
As you can see, the "P2P, running servers, etc..." is just here to illustrate the users using 90% of the bandwidth. Illustrate. As an example. How is that pointless?
It's like saying: I like people that eat a lot of rice (Chinese, Indians, etc...).
How is that pointless? Pointing out that Indians and Chinese people eat a lt of rice is just here to support and illustrate the people that eat a lot of rice.
Anyways, enough time wasted trying to explain to you the concept of using an example.
That's because you haven't used p2p software in a while. Last time I tried, I barely had time to double click on the files, they were on my HDD a few seconds later. That's less than 3 minutes for the latest AC/DC (Which I bought before BTW), in a very decent 192kbps MP3 format. This time includes the search, double clicks and download.
Though it is a while I didn;t log in to WinMX, so times may have changed with the lawsuits and all...
There is no modding here. The guy has such a bad karma that he posts at -1...
Of course, I didn't go into much details. You would use a couple of filters!