The usual argument is that infringement is not theft because it doesn't deprive the IP owner of anything. I'm merely trying to point out that it's not true.
If society decides to give someone the exclusivity to something, and then a bunch of dudes do the thing anyways, you're saying the owner still has the exclusivity on that thing? How twisted is that?
The copyright fdoesn't gives you the right to distribute, it gives you THE EXCLUSIVITY to distribute. When some random dude download your stuff and distribute it for free, he doesn't deprive you of the exclusivity? How can you view it that way?
1. First, you say that if you copy my material I can still sell it. Is it still true if you copy my material and then offer it to the world for free? Because that's basically how P2P networks work. You actually say it in the end of your post, but whenever you download on BitTorrent, you leech as well (that's for most people using BitTorrent, you may have altered your client)
2. Second, I have the right to sell my work, but society grants me something more: I am the only one to have the right to distribute my work. When you take over and distribute it yourself, you kind of deprive me of my exclusivity don't you think?
3. Last, nobody cares if you would have bought it. But if you wouldn't thet you shouldn't have had access to the material. That's the law, plain and simple.
For the other end it's also not that complicated to block those updates.
No it's not simple. I mostly access my social networks from my phone, and the mobile app doesn't have an X. So I get constantly annoyed by this crap and it forces me to go and log in on my PC to disable it. Then another game takes over. It's a never ending battle to keep facebook usable.
Care to explain the difference? In my view, it is the same.
Theft - take something from someone. For example, take an iPhone. The owner is deprived of his property while the thief benefits from the property against the will of its (former) owner.
Copyright infringement: Deprive the copyright owner of his right to distribute his material as he see fit. The owner is deprived of his right, the thief benefits from the material against the will of its copyright owner.
Precisely. This is the same battle as the battle against piracy and the battle against child porn. By banning the stuff, you just force people to cloak themselves making the identification of the offenders just more... difficult for the authorities.
Well, if it's for programming lessons, Ubuntu might be a good choice though. So I guess it still depends. If it's just to get them bootstrapped on "using a computer", windows will be best.
Another point for Ubuntu is that if it suits their needs, they can install it on any other computer they might have at no cost. Hence, however fragmented their PC install base might be, they'll be able to level it with a consistent OS across the board.
Not mentionning that I have a hard time figuring out how they're going to make sense of these billions tweets every day. The signal/noise ratio must be very low on twitter...
It reminds me of the discussions on slashdot in the early days of virtualization (early 2000s). It was like "Of course it's secure: even if the VM is compromized, the virus cannot spread to the host." Except it can spread to the host. Because VMWare is not bulletproof either, and you can exploit the VGA drivers, USB drivers, etc. Especially if you're root on the VM.
The hypervizor thing will be the same IMO. You'll be able to target the encryption, the signing, whatever is exposed to the outside can be exploited. A TCP stack is also something pretty hard to secure.
The secure machine is the machine not connected to the outside world. Then again, it can be exploited if you have access to the machine physically.
Something easy to secure absolutely: An alarm clock. A microwave. Something basic. Not that I believe my microwave or alarm clock to be secure. What I'm saying is that such dumb down systems should be able to be secured absolutely.
The problem being, a machine is more than an OS. Some NICs are insecure and one can hack into their microchips. That's a good place to do man in the middle attacks. Other exploits don't need root privilege to do their deeds. They'll target the running apps, not the kernel.
All in all, I must say that I don't know how you can prove an OS is secure (and I doubt it is an accurate description of security). You can prove there is a vulnerability by finding it. How do you prove there's no vulnerability ?
"All you need to know about rating agencies is that in May 2010 Moody’s still rated Greece triple-A." - Mark Steyn
Exactly. If (and that's a hell of an IF) they learn from their mistakes, they are trying to review a little more closely their rating, hence leading to the downgrade of the US.
In all fairness, they should have downgraded most european countries way before the US - based on economics alone. But based on politics? The US has demonstrated they're willing to use default as a political weapon. Where can it go from there? God only knows. Europe faces the same problem: The Euro zone has no political leadership, leading to the various leaders having their hands tied and doing stupid things like defaulting greece.
While I agree with you from a theoretical standpoint, the complexity of modern operating systems more or less guarantees that nobody with a finite amount of time will ever be able to secure one 100%.
So this is again one of these "exploits" that Epple took care of but the jailbreaking community didn't. I guess everyone is going to blame Apple again.
Yet another way to build better exploits: decompile the kernel. I guess Apple should prevent that as well or they'll be found guilty.
(posting to undo wrongful mod, a bug in the system? dropdown mod combo box, use arrows to scroll, press escape to cancel, it then applies the last highlighted mod option:/)
It's not a bug, it's a feature. If you want to cancel your mod, you have to unplug the RJ45 at the back of your computer first. RTFM for God's sake !!!
Are we talking marketshare over here or our own preferences? Because all that you cite is well and good, but grandma doesn't give a shit.
Consumer freedom is still there, and you can return your product, sell it used, buy another one. Heck, you can even not buy it.
Are you going to say that most alarm clocks are bad because your OpenAlarmClock is the same but you can compile your kernel on it? Who gives a flying fuck about that? I buy an alarm clock to get woken up in the morning, not to compile linux on it.
I buy a phone to place calls, get called, send/seceive SMS, browse the web, mail, install apps. Steve's selection of apps IS GOOD FOR 99% of the population.
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The usual argument is that infringement is not theft because it doesn't deprive the IP owner of anything. I'm merely trying to point out that it's not true.
If you read both my posts carefully, you will see that I am not talking about lost sales. At all. So maybe you answered to the wrong person...
If society decides to give someone the exclusivity to something, and then a bunch of dudes do the thing anyways, you're saying the owner still has the exclusivity on that thing? How twisted is that?
The copyright fdoesn't gives you the right to distribute, it gives you THE EXCLUSIVITY to distribute. When some random dude download your stuff and distribute it for free, he doesn't deprive you of the exclusivity? How can you view it that way?
1. First, you say that if you copy my material I can still sell it. Is it still true if you copy my material and then offer it to the world for free? Because that's basically how P2P networks work. You actually say it in the end of your post, but whenever you download on BitTorrent, you leech as well (that's for most people using BitTorrent, you may have altered your client)
2. Second, I have the right to sell my work, but society grants me something more: I am the only one to have the right to distribute my work. When you take over and distribute it yourself, you kind of deprive me of my exclusivity don't you think?
3. Last, nobody cares if you would have bought it. But if you wouldn't thet you shouldn't have had access to the material. That's the law, plain and simple.
For the other end it's also not that complicated to block those updates.
No it's not simple. I mostly access my social networks from my phone, and the mobile app doesn't have an X. So I get constantly annoyed by this crap and it forces me to go and log in on my PC to disable it. Then another game takes over. It's a never ending battle to keep facebook usable.
Care to explain the difference? In my view, it is the same.
Theft - take something from someone. For example, take an iPhone. The owner is deprived of his property while the thief benefits from the property against the will of its (former) owner.
Copyright infringement: Deprive the copyright owner of his right to distribute his material as he see fit. The owner is deprived of his right, the thief benefits from the material against the will of its copyright owner.
Very close in my book. YMMV.
Precisely. This is the same battle as the battle against piracy and the battle against child porn. By banning the stuff, you just force people to cloak themselves making the identification of the offenders just more... difficult for the authorities.
Oh well. The concept seems a little too advanced.
Have you thought any of this through?
First posts rarely think their post through.
The real question is: When will we have a JavaScript emulator ?
Hear, hear! A billionaire in the making.
To be perfectly fair, most open source / free modern compilers exist for Windows: gcc, java, perl, php, python, etc...
Well, if it's for programming lessons, Ubuntu might be a good choice though. So I guess it still depends.
If it's just to get them bootstrapped on "using a computer", windows will be best.
Another point for Ubuntu is that if it suits their needs, they can install it on any other computer they might have at no cost. Hence, however fragmented their PC install base might be, they'll be able to level it with a consistent OS across the board.
Not mentionning that I have a hard time figuring out how they're going to make sense of these billions tweets every day. The signal/noise ratio must be very low on twitter...
This sort of sloppy work makes me wonder if the lawyers are incompetent, or if this is a joke.
Both maybe?
Dilution... finally a purpose exists for American "lite" beer...
Do you mean to say we should water our lawns with a mixture of Bud and piss? Why would anyone be so cruel with their own grass?
It reminds me of the discussions on slashdot in the early days of virtualization (early 2000s). It was like "Of course it's secure: even if the VM is compromized, the virus cannot spread to the host." Except it can spread to the host. Because VMWare is not bulletproof either, and you can exploit the VGA drivers, USB drivers, etc. Especially if you're root on the VM.
The hypervizor thing will be the same IMO. You'll be able to target the encryption, the signing, whatever is exposed to the outside can be exploited. A TCP stack is also something pretty hard to secure.
The secure machine is the machine not connected to the outside world. Then again, it can be exploited if you have access to the machine physically.
Something easy to secure absolutely: An alarm clock. A microwave. Something basic. Not that I believe my microwave or alarm clock to be secure. What I'm saying is that such dumb down systems should be able to be secured absolutely.
The problem being, a machine is more than an OS. Some NICs are insecure and one can hack into their microchips. That's a good place to do man in the middle attacks. Other exploits don't need root privilege to do their deeds. They'll target the running apps, not the kernel.
All in all, I must say that I don't know how you can prove an OS is secure (and I doubt it is an accurate description of security). You can prove there is a vulnerability by finding it. How do you prove there's no vulnerability ?
"All you need to know about rating agencies is that in May 2010 Moody’s still rated Greece triple-A." - Mark Steyn
Exactly. If (and that's a hell of an IF) they learn from their mistakes, they are trying to review a little more closely their rating, hence leading to the downgrade of the US.
In all fairness, they should have downgraded most european countries way before the US - based on economics alone. But based on politics? The US has demonstrated they're willing to use default as a political weapon. Where can it go from there? God only knows. Europe faces the same problem: The Euro zone has no political leadership, leading to the various leaders having their hands tied and doing stupid things like defaulting greece.
probably damn near bug-free.
The two words I've highlighted pretty much proves my point.
While I agree with you from a theoretical standpoint, the complexity of modern operating systems more or less guarantees that nobody with a finite amount of time will ever be able to secure one 100%.
So this is again one of these "exploits" that Epple took care of but the jailbreaking community didn't. I guess everyone is going to blame Apple again.
Yet another way to build better exploits: decompile the kernel. I guess Apple should prevent that as well or they'll be found guilty.
(posting to undo wrongful mod, a bug in the system? dropdown mod combo box, use arrows to scroll, press escape to cancel, it then applies the last highlighted mod option :/)
It's not a bug, it's a feature. If you want to cancel your mod, you have to unplug the RJ45 at the back of your computer first. RTFM for God's sake !!!
Then maybe we should buy gifts that doesn't consume their time? Perfume, jewelry, etc. But no tablets !
Are we talking marketshare over here or our own preferences? Because all that you cite is well and good, but grandma doesn't give a shit.
Consumer freedom is still there, and you can return your product, sell it used, buy another one. Heck, you can even not buy it.
Are you going to say that most alarm clocks are bad because your OpenAlarmClock is the same but you can compile your kernel on it? Who gives a flying fuck about that? I buy an alarm clock to get woken up in the morning, not to compile linux on it.
I buy a phone to place calls, get called, send/seceive SMS, browse the web, mail, install apps. Steve's selection of apps IS GOOD FOR 99% of the population.