"Windows and Mac OS X would have a difficult time competing against that."
Right. Somebody pass me those usage stats. Seems like Windows in particular is doing a really great job of competing against Linux's open-source goodness.
Folks, there's nothing to see here. Use the system that works for you. Robust alternatives abound. Linux is no more of a threat to Apple (and vice versa) than Skippy is a threat to Jif. Pick your brand of peanut butter.
How about we have each person be aware of the issues, and make smart decisions about whether he REALLY needs to type his paypal account info into the PC at the library.
This is a tempest in a teapot. Would you get into a detailed discussion of your credit history on a cell phone at the Food Court? Use your brain when transmitting sensitive data. Be aware that there are risks. (Like there are every time you get out of bed in the morning.) Stop looking for panaceas.
Then, in your estimation, the problem isn't a problem. That's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that sending sensitive information over hardware you don't trust is a good way to compromise the information.
Were you thinking there was some magic fairy dust you could apply to any computer you touched that makes it Automatically Secure?
Well, you shouldn't transmit sensitive data over hardware you don't trust. That's a simple security principle, and it's not one you can easily get around.
Carry a laptop. Use SSH. Heck, I can use my phone to get most web content. If that's not convenient, well, then that's unfortunate. Just because you want the world to be different, doesn't mean it will be.
Uh, call me crazy, but I don't think that "fembots (753724)" is "our technological elite". As a matter of fact, it looks like one person, whose opinion may or may not be of value to you.
I'm curious how one becomes a member of "our technological elite". If it's just getting a high-numbered/. account, I think we need to rethink our elite selection process a little bit.
I don't think the iPod shuffle is The Greatest Design Ever. I think it's rather small, and doesn't have a screen, but it is fairly cheap and rugged. Doesn't solve a problem for me, but some people obviously like it OK.
I don't know where this "/. crowd" comes from. I don't recall signing a manifesto when I set up my account. You might be stunned to note that there exist more than two opinions on this board.
"release just the opposite of what people want, and yet they jump on it"
You contradict yourself. If people buy it, they obviously want it.
"Or the fact that OS X is not open source"
Darwin is, but that obviously isn't your point.
"funny how many people abandon their ideals or principals so easily."
I haven't abandoned my principles. I do not share YOUR principles.
I bought my Powerbook because it suited my needs. I bought my iPod because it best fit what I wanted. I don't give a damn about what's "cool". I've never been cool in my life.
"Well, you needn't bother attacking me, because I'm on a small hill. You leap over here, I'm gonna cut all your shit off." (He was channeling Mace Windu for a second there).
McGregor was no Han Solo. Han Solo was actually funny, and he never did a poop joke.
"As far as I am concerned, the most perfect definition of "conflict of interest" is when county or state boards of elections are members of political parties and entrusted with choosing electronic voting systems."
Where's the conflict of interest? The two major parties run the election, and get candidates from those two parties elected. Seems like everybody's interests are covered.
Oh, were you talking about voters? Who cares what they think? We've got a country to run here, man!
By proceeding from the assumption that I would take the usual attack on Objectivism, you show yourself to be not very objective.
Look, I've really got no interest in pursuing this with you. I know that you've decided that you understand The Way Things Should Be, and there's nothing I can say to change that, so I won't waste either of our time.
There are plenty of things in life that are certain. If you think you know everything, then you know nothing. Of that, I AM certain.
The ad hominem attacks! Excellent. Anybody with the temerity to disagree with an Objectivist is, by definition, wrong and stupid.
One of MY fixed principles is this: Maximum freedom is the goal. Activities that needlessly restrict freedom are Bad. To steer this discussion back on track, Microsoft dumping IE on the market in order to kill Netscape was Bad. The fact that the courts were a couple years late and several billion dollars short of protecting a developing market is a secondary issue: What Microsoft did was Wrong.
Just because your principles are fixed doesn't make them right.
Whose attempt at confrontation? I'm not the one who attempted a proof by assertion. (Which you might note has a different first syllable than "asinine".)
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FUCKING FINALLY!
Now get some Babylon 5 action, and we're talking.
OK, what's the difference between a "real jet" and a "normal jet"?
A half gallon of milk costs less than a gallon of milk.
The problem is not that Microsoft has two different products, the problem is that they charge the same amount for them.
I'd love to be able to buy Just The OS for $90. But I can't, so I won't.
My main OS is OS X, and I can uninstall anything I damn well please, which is really all I want.
Well, if Gundeep says it's cool, then it's COOL!
"Windows and Mac OS X would have a difficult time competing against that."
Right. Somebody pass me those usage stats. Seems like Windows in particular is doing a really great job of competing against Linux's open-source goodness.
Folks, there's nothing to see here. Use the system that works for you. Robust alternatives abound. Linux is no more of a threat to Apple (and vice versa) than Skippy is a threat to Jif. Pick your brand of peanut butter.
So you think that without Feynman, there wouldn't have been an atomic bomb? If so, I think you need to read some more history.
Yeah, because I totally lose sleep at night wondering how my posts are going to get moderated.
Heck, your number is lower than mine, and I'm DEFINITELY in the technological elite, so I think you're OK.
How about we have each person be aware of the issues, and make smart decisions about whether he REALLY needs to type his paypal account info into the PC at the library.
This is a tempest in a teapot. Would you get into a detailed discussion of your credit history on a cell phone at the Food Court? Use your brain when transmitting sensitive data. Be aware that there are risks. (Like there are every time you get out of bed in the morning.) Stop looking for panaceas.
Then, in your estimation, the problem isn't a problem. That's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that sending sensitive information over hardware you don't trust is a good way to compromise the information.
Were you thinking there was some magic fairy dust you could apply to any computer you touched that makes it Automatically Secure?
Well, you shouldn't transmit sensitive data over hardware you don't trust. That's a simple security principle, and it's not one you can easily get around.
Carry a laptop. Use SSH. Heck, I can use my phone to get most web content. If that's not convenient, well, then that's unfortunate. Just because you want the world to be different, doesn't mean it will be.
Uh, call me crazy, but I don't think that "fembots (753724)" is "our technological elite". As a matter of fact, it looks like one person, whose opinion may or may not be of value to you.
/. account, I think we need to rethink our elite selection process a little bit.
I'm curious how one becomes a member of "our technological elite". If it's just getting a high-numbered
"plenty of opportunities for cel animation"
No. There are plenty of opportunities for good writing and skilled artists.
The medium is not the message.
I don't think the iPod shuffle is The Greatest Design Ever. I think it's rather small, and doesn't have a screen, but it is fairly cheap and rugged. Doesn't solve a problem for me, but some people obviously like it OK.
I don't know where this "/. crowd" comes from. I don't recall signing a manifesto when I set up my account. You might be stunned to note that there exist more than two opinions on this board.
"release just the opposite of what people want, and yet they jump on it"
You contradict yourself. If people buy it, they obviously want it.
"Or the fact that OS X is not open source"
Darwin is, but that obviously isn't your point.
"funny how many people abandon their ideals or principals so easily."
I haven't abandoned my principles. I do not share YOUR principles.
I bought my Powerbook because it suited my needs. I bought my iPod because it best fit what I wanted. I don't give a damn about what's "cool". I've never been cool in my life.
/. was a blog before there were blogs.
Uh, thanks for that clarification. Ass.
"You were the chosen one!" Pffft.
"Well, you needn't bother attacking me, because I'm on a small hill. You leap over here, I'm gonna cut all your shit off." (He was channeling Mace Windu for a second there).
McGregor was no Han Solo. Han Solo was actually funny, and he never did a poop joke.
"As far as I am concerned, the most perfect definition of "conflict of interest" is when county or state boards of elections are members of political parties and entrusted with choosing electronic voting systems."
Where's the conflict of interest? The two major parties run the election, and get candidates from those two parties elected. Seems like everybody's interests are covered.
Oh, were you talking about voters? Who cares what they think? We've got a country to run here, man!
...Okay. And?
By proceeding from the assumption that I would take the usual attack on Objectivism, you show yourself to be not very objective.
Look, I've really got no interest in pursuing this with you. I know that you've decided that you understand The Way Things Should Be, and there's nothing I can say to change that, so I won't waste either of our time.
There are plenty of things in life that are certain. If you think you know everything, then you know nothing. Of that, I AM certain.
The ad hominem attacks! Excellent. Anybody with the temerity to disagree with an Objectivist is, by definition, wrong and stupid.
One of MY fixed principles is this: Maximum freedom is the goal. Activities that needlessly restrict freedom are Bad. To steer this discussion back on track, Microsoft dumping IE on the market in order to kill Netscape was Bad. The fact that the courts were a couple years late and several billion dollars short of protecting a developing market is a secondary issue: What Microsoft did was Wrong.
Just because your principles are fixed doesn't make them right.
Not wrong. Just amusing. I thought Objectivism was great...when I was twelve.
You just finished Atlas Shrugged, didn't you?
My only issue with Clicker is range. I've got a Treo 650 and a 12" Powerbook. Useful range is less than ten feet. Too bad...it'd be a nifty solution.
Whose attempt at confrontation? I'm not the one who attempted a proof by assertion. (Which you might note has a different first syllable than "asinine".)
No, the courts identify unlawful behavior as being against the law. That's kinda what they're for.
Want to change that? Change the law. Good luck.