You need to relax. You can use whatever scripting language you want on OS X. "Dump it"? Yeah, because all the people who like it just fine are less important than you, right?
Only if you're not interested in your free memory.
I wish the developers of Konfabulator would spend more time fixing memory leaks and less time whining about how Apple stole their ideas. And yes, I paid for the program.
I don't have to substantiate my contention: It's not my job to keep my parent poster's application running. I still run a couple Classic apps on my Powerbook, and by and large they work fine. Windows XP SP2 breaks almost every app in my organization's portfolio. Our point of sale system corrupts its database if you run it on anything newer than Windows 98. And we can't get support, since Microsoft bought the developer and EOLed our version.
Yeah, it's all crappy old software, but we still need it to work.
Do you have anything that substantiates your contention that you'd have to re-develop your app every year and a half? That really doesn't make a lot of sense. By and large, OSX releases have added features, not taken them away. Certainly nothing that a patch to your app couldn't easily remedy.
Microsoft's OS releases are scary. By and large, Apple's are fairly seamless. (Yes, there are of course conspicuous anecdotes that contradict my broad generalization)
Service packs fix bugs. (Apple has those too) Apple OS revisions add features and performance. (Mostly without catastrophic breakage of backwards compatibility)
I'll take Apple's innovation over Microsoft's "stability".
I'm not going to get into this with you. You've obviously had a bad experience with religion, and therefore All Religions Are Evil. I'm not going to take the time to argue your articles of faith.
You don't like BSG. I think it's pretty entertaining. If it makes you feel better to think that you're better/more informed/more erudite than I am, then you're welcome to do so. You probably won't even be able to hear my snickering.
"Why wait until some undefined "later" point to explain one's self, if one has nothing to hide"
Utter horse-puckey.
Nobody is ever responsible to explain their actions to anybody under any circumstances, unless bound by agreement or contract. You don't have an agreement with Tridge, and he is perfectly within his rights to tell you to go pound sand.
He doesn't need to "defend" himself because he hasn't done anything wrong. He's pissed some people off who have a philosophical and commercial disagreement with him, and he would probably be wise to discuss the situation with those people, but he doesn't owe YOU (or me or any other J Random Slashdot Reader) any explanation whatsoever.
"These zealots go on and on about a "free world" that they define and others must follow."
That's really a fairly silly criticism. The only thing the "zealots" are concerned about is people eating their own dog food. If you want to be a part of the free software "world", you have to agree to the tenets of that world. If you don't, that's fine, nobody's coming to your house with a gun to force you.
They might disagree with your choice, and they might even argue against your choice, and they might even tell you to your face that they think you're wrong: None of which impinges the slightest on your freedom to do whatever the hell you want.
What if I'm a business man that doesn't want people to wear purple pants? Does that mean that people shouldn't wear purple pants?
McVoy can want whatever he wants. Fortunately, his desires do not have the force of law. The protections on reverse engineering mostly do. (Except for that whole DMCA debacle. That's a different story.)
I suppose that a robot could be programmed to believe anything its creator found to be advantageous. Veneration of that creator could be a helpful conceit. Not credible? You're OK with the starships jumping around from star system to star system, but you can't swallow that a robot can be programmed? Uh huh. Methinks your preconceptions about religion are coloring your judgement. That is, of course, your prerogative, but you sound pretty silly trying to make that be the reason the show is bad.
BSG is not science fiction. It's space opera, and damn fine space opera at that. Sure it's a genre piece. That doesn't make it bad.
UNIX-style copy and paste? You mean, totally inconsistent, different in every application, and generally useless? Hell, I HOPE MacOS doesn't support that.
Coins are not cast. I'm not certain if they're forged or stamped (that'd be hot or cold metal under a die applied at high pressure, respectively), but they're not cast (as in melted metal poured into a mold).
" I had just got done reading something that talked about how one thing Apples weren't good at was backwards compatibilit"
Wow, I think that's a remarkably stupid thing to say. Apple's backwards compatibility is pretty kick ass. Moreso if you consider how many radical architecture changes have happened. (68000 to PPC, Classic OS to OSX...)
"A PC can also play a game written 20 years ago using the disks it came on -- can a Mac?"
Yes. So what? You're not seriously trying to make this a "Macs r teh sux 'cuz they don't have floppy drives", are you? Guess what. PCs don't come with 5 1/4" drives anymore, either. That's what all my PC games came on 20 years ago.
So, should we also force game manufacturers to release their games on Macs as well as Windows? What about consoles? Should Sony be forced to ship games for GameCube?
Explain to me why that would be any different than the situation with music. Apple has built a good business model. They aren't coercing anybody to do anything.
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So "fan boy"=="somebody who's had pretty good experiences with Apple's equipment"?
Mmmkay. Whatever floats your boat.
You need to relax. You can use whatever scripting language you want on OS X. "Dump it"? Yeah, because all the people who like it just fine are less important than you, right?
Only if you're not interested in your free memory.
I wish the developers of Konfabulator would spend more time fixing memory leaks and less time whining about how Apple stole their ideas. And yes, I paid for the program.
I don't have to substantiate my contention: It's not my job to keep my parent poster's application running. I still run a couple Classic apps on my Powerbook, and by and large they work fine.
Windows XP SP2 breaks almost every app in my organization's portfolio. Our point of sale system corrupts its database if you run it on anything newer than Windows 98. And we can't get support, since Microsoft bought the developer and EOLed our version.
Yeah, it's all crappy old software, but we still need it to work.
I got it to run on my HP48GX. Get a real calculator.
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Do you have anything that substantiates your contention that you'd have to re-develop your app every year and a half? That really doesn't make a lot of sense. By and large, OSX releases have added features, not taken them away. Certainly nothing that a patch to your app couldn't easily remedy.
Microsoft's OS releases are scary. By and large, Apple's are fairly seamless. (Yes, there are of course conspicuous anecdotes that contradict my broad generalization)
Service packs fix bugs. (Apple has those too)
Apple OS revisions add features and performance. (Mostly without catastrophic breakage of backwards compatibility)
I'll take Apple's innovation over Microsoft's "stability".
I'm not going to get into this with you. You've obviously had a bad experience with religion, and therefore All Religions Are Evil. I'm not going to take the time to argue your articles of faith.
You don't like BSG. I think it's pretty entertaining. If it makes you feel better to think that you're better/more informed/more erudite than I am, then you're welcome to do so. You probably won't even be able to hear my snickering.
What a useful guide. You install the video card, plug in the displays, and it works. Gee, I never would have figured that out on my own.
Want to be helpful? Tell me how to get those two displays without selling both kidneys.
"Why wait until some undefined "later" point to explain one's self, if one has nothing to hide"
Utter horse-puckey.
Nobody is ever responsible to explain their actions to anybody under any circumstances, unless bound by agreement or contract. You don't have an agreement with Tridge, and he is perfectly within his rights to tell you to go pound sand.
He doesn't need to "defend" himself because he hasn't done anything wrong. He's pissed some people off who have a philosophical and commercial disagreement with him, and he would probably be wise to discuss the situation with those people, but he doesn't owe YOU (or me or any other J Random Slashdot Reader) any explanation whatsoever.
The guy says he didn't have access, and he wasn't a party to the license.
If you have access to the source code, you can't do a clean-room implementation. That's why Open Source developers avoid touching Microsoft's code.
If you want to argue that Tridge is lying, that's fine. But if you can't prove it, you look fairly silly.
"These zealots go on and on about a "free world" that they define and others must follow."
That's really a fairly silly criticism. The only thing the "zealots" are concerned about is people eating their own dog food. If you want to be a part of the free software "world", you have to agree to the tenets of that world. If you don't, that's fine, nobody's coming to your house with a gun to force you.
They might disagree with your choice, and they might even argue against your choice, and they might even tell you to your face that they think you're wrong: None of which impinges the slightest on your freedom to do whatever the hell you want.
Get a spine. Makes life easier.
What if I'm a business man that doesn't want people to wear purple pants? Does that mean that people shouldn't wear purple pants?
McVoy can want whatever he wants. Fortunately, his desires do not have the force of law. The protections on reverse engineering mostly do. (Except for that whole DMCA debacle. That's a different story.)
Uh huh. And he says that he never has.
So what's your point again? That he's a lying liar?
So you don't like it, and therefore it's Bad.
I suppose that a robot could be programmed to believe anything its creator found to be advantageous. Veneration of that creator could be a helpful conceit. Not credible? You're OK with the starships jumping around from star system to star system, but you can't swallow that a robot can be programmed? Uh huh. Methinks your preconceptions about religion are coloring your judgement. That is, of course, your prerogative, but you sound pretty silly trying to make that be the reason the show is bad.
BSG is not science fiction. It's space opera, and damn fine space opera at that. Sure it's a genre piece. That doesn't make it bad.
Hold on a second.
UNIX-style copy and paste? You mean, totally inconsistent, different in every application, and generally useless? Hell, I HOPE MacOS doesn't support that.
My car doesn't support square wheels either.
I say it has to be bigger and heavier, so it's not a pain in the ass to separate out from coins of other values.
Actually, I'd rather it were a nonagon. That'd be sweet.
Coins are not cast. I'm not certain if they're forged or stamped (that'd be hot or cold metal under a die applied at high pressure, respectively), but they're not cast (as in melted metal poured into a mold).
Wow. Feeling threatened much?
I wasn't saying that it's an insult or not. I'm saying that somebody with such a combative attitude will not be an asset to me.
You're a dick. I need to never hire you.
" I had just got done reading something that talked about how one thing Apples weren't good at was backwards compatibilit"
Wow, I think that's a remarkably stupid thing to say. Apple's backwards compatibility is pretty kick ass. Moreso if you consider how many radical architecture changes have happened. (68000 to PPC, Classic OS to OSX...)
I'm going to pick a nit.
"A PC can also play a game written 20 years ago using the disks it came on -- can a Mac?"
Yes. So what? You're not seriously trying to make this a "Macs r teh sux 'cuz they don't have floppy drives", are you? Guess what. PCs don't come with 5 1/4" drives anymore, either. That's what all my PC games came on 20 years ago.
So, should we also force game manufacturers to release their games on Macs as well as Windows? What about consoles? Should Sony be forced to ship games for GameCube?
Explain to me why that would be any different than the situation with music. Apple has built a good business model. They aren't coercing anybody to do anything.
How would that be in Apple's interest?