"Clinton did *not* allow the nation to be attacked."
OK, who was President the first time the WTC got bombed?
I agree with your overall point, but I think you need to be a little more careful with your rhetoric. As a matter of fact, one could argue that Clinton was in much the same position as Bush II, although certainly with less time on the job.
I do not know what plans Bush I might have left for Clinton, but Clinton was in the seat where the buck stops.
"Are we entering an age where unreasonable Search and Seizure isn't required anymore to commit acts that the population perceives as an invasion of their privacy?"
You must not understand the distinction between an activity that is optional (like an OS upgrade) and one that is not (like paying for a software subscription).
With a Mac, if you don't pay, it continues working exactly the way it did yesterday. With this scheme, if you don't pay, you have a doorstop.
I am impressed with the way you managed to drag your distaste for Apple Computers into a totally unrelated discussion. How close are you to finishing your Troll Merit Badge?
I have an idea. How about a few years in the pen, and THEN you're stripped of all your income? Or the other way around...that's fine too. Sounds like a good deterrant to me.
No more than you can seriously believe that people who think that copyright is being extended and abused to the detriment of public interest all think that "copyright is evil".
"Just what, then, makes OS X superior to Windows for cell phones then?"
OK, that wasn't my initial contention, but whatever. I just don't happen to think that the problems of syncing phones is a Bluetooth specific issue. The interconnection works, the software support just isn't there. In my personal experience, the software support is better on OSX than on Windows, but you seem to have a different opinion, which is great.
"Perhaps you haven't had to deal with the hourly or minute-by-minute resets with the 650 yet"
No, I haven't. I've had my Treo for a year. My fiancee has had one for three months. I have a few applications that can be relied upon to reset the Treo, but I've not had an issue of just letting the thing boot back up, and I'm right where I started. Non-volatile storage is cool.
Your mileage may vary.
Yes, you need smartphone-specific software to do all the stuff that smartphones can do. Why is the Bluetooth spec supposed to be responsible for handling all those details? Does your Ethernet card configure your POP email box?
"If what you're saying is that OS X is better than Windows for cell phone because a small number of phones are supported out of the box,"
Mmmmmkay. I don't recall ever saying that, but whatever floats your boat.
"Apple themselves say that the Treo 650 requires the purchase of mark/space software in order to be supported my Tiger"
Mmmmmkay. Worked fine for me, before installing MarkSpace. It works BETTER with MarkSpace, which is why I bought it, but it works adequately...right out of the box. Or you could install Palm Desktop, and sync with that.
"yet mac people like to make a point of "it just works"."
Uh, OK. Like I said, sometimes the drivers are bundled, sometimes they're not. Where do you find drivers for syncing say, a Sony Ericsson phone with Windows?
"I'd like to see more stuff work out of the box."
Well, sure. But you're not seriously trying to say that OS X's syncing system is the same as Windows', are you? Because that'd be pretty silly.
"phones besides that they all suck is that none are supported by OS X"
Huh. My perspective is different. I have one address book that's shared by my PDA and my Mac, which runs my IM client, my mail client, even syncs a spare copy to my iPod. I can make a change on the PDA or the computer, and it propagates fine. It just works.
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Yeah, never mind that Foley actually did something despicable, and had it covered up by the House leadership. It's a political ploy!
I love listening to Hastert say "The buck stops HERE. It's the DEMOCRATS' fault! I got all confused when they told me to be nice to homos."
"Popularity vs insight. And popularity is winning."
And you get insight from, where? TV news? Come on.
"Clinton did *not* allow the nation to be attacked."
OK, who was President the first time the WTC got bombed?
I agree with your overall point, but I think you need to be a little more careful with your rhetoric. As a matter of fact, one could argue that Clinton was in much the same position as Bush II, although certainly with less time on the job.
I do not know what plans Bush I might have left for Clinton, but Clinton was in the seat where the buck stops.
"Neither side can make unsubstantiated claims with impunity"
Unless they have Karl Rove working for them.
AHA! See? Gay marriage is going to RUIN CHEMISTRY!
"It's not OK in the United States."
Unless you're a Republican. And then it's the Democrats' fault for telling on you.
"Are we entering an age where unreasonable Search and Seizure isn't required anymore to commit acts that the population perceives as an invasion of their privacy?"
No. It's still unreasonable.
"I still maintain that users should expect a reasonable level of privacy."
Regardless of what they may expect, they're not going to get it unless they use reasonably solid encryption.
Got a secret? Don't put it in plaintext.
That is a good point. Must be the same crowd that thinks there's no such thing as bad publicity.
"no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
Well, except for those Divx guys. That went over like the proverbial stainless steel Hindenburg.
You must not understand the distinction between an activity that is optional (like an OS upgrade) and one that is not (like paying for a software subscription).
With a Mac, if you don't pay, it continues working exactly the way it did yesterday. With this scheme, if you don't pay, you have a doorstop.
I am impressed with the way you managed to drag your distaste for Apple Computers into a totally unrelated discussion. How close are you to finishing your Troll Merit Badge?
"facetiousness"
I don't think that word means what you think it means. But don't let the door hit you on your way out!
I have an idea. How about a few years in the pen, and THEN you're stripped of all your income? Or the other way around...that's fine too. Sounds like a good deterrant to me.
"Jail is supposedly for the rehabilitation of criminals too violent to be safe in society."
No. Jail is supposed to punish criminals. Few criminals cause as much harm as the corporate buccaneers that destroy the wealth of others.
Physical harm is not the only kind of harm.
AND he carried a purse. Case closed!
"a) our health is too important to trust in the hands of a for-profit organization"
But you're going to trust it to Congress? Yeah, that'll work.
Depends on which end of which bell curve we're talking about.
No more than you can seriously believe that people who think that copyright is being extended and abused to the detriment of public interest all think that "copyright is evil".
Right?
Well, aren't you lucky? Those of us who have been burned will go ahead and not trust them. Good thing there's none of that nonsense on OS X.
It'll probably be valid when you buy it. Are you going to trust Microsoft not to bork it after the fact?
Lemme know how that works out for you.
"That is if you don't coun't contracting"
I don't know, I think you've got all the contracting we can handle. Easy with that apostrophe there, kemo sabe.
"no, it wasn't a purse, it was european"
Oh yeah, that totally protected your masculinity. Good job, Hercules.
"Just what, then, makes OS X superior to Windows for cell phones then?"
OK, that wasn't my initial contention, but whatever. I just don't happen to think that the problems of syncing phones is a Bluetooth specific issue. The interconnection works, the software support just isn't there. In my personal experience, the software support is better on OSX than on Windows, but you seem to have a different opinion, which is great.
"Perhaps you haven't had to deal with the hourly or minute-by-minute resets with the 650 yet"
No, I haven't. I've had my Treo for a year. My fiancee has had one for three months. I have a few applications that can be relied upon to reset the Treo, but I've not had an issue of just letting the thing boot back up, and I'm right where I started. Non-volatile storage is cool.
Your mileage may vary.
Yes, you need smartphone-specific software to do all the stuff that smartphones can do. Why is the Bluetooth spec supposed to be responsible for handling all those details? Does your Ethernet card configure your POP email box?
"If what you're saying is that OS X is better than Windows for cell phone because a small number of phones are supported out of the box,"
Mmmmmkay. I don't recall ever saying that, but whatever floats your boat.
"Apple themselves say that the Treo 650 requires the purchase of mark/space software in order to be supported my Tiger"
Mmmmmkay. Worked fine for me, before installing MarkSpace. It works BETTER with MarkSpace, which is why I bought it, but it works adequately...right out of the box. Or you could install Palm Desktop, and sync with that.
"yet mac people like to make a point of "it just works"."
Uh, OK. Like I said, sometimes the drivers are bundled, sometimes they're not. Where do you find drivers for syncing say, a Sony Ericsson phone with Windows?
"I'd like to see more stuff work out of the box."
Well, sure. But you're not seriously trying to say that OS X's syncing system is the same as Windows', are you? Because that'd be pretty silly.
"phones besides that they all suck is that none are supported by OS X"
Huh. My perspective is different. I have one address book that's shared by my PDA and my Mac, which runs my IM client, my mail client, even syncs a spare copy to my iPod. I can make a change on the PDA or the computer, and it propagates fine. It just works.
Hey, there's that phrase again.