"You'd have to argue there is a real privacy breach in a program that gets publically available information voluntarily by the people who own that information."
You're kidding, right?
The Founding Fathers (Well, Hamilton's bunch, anyhow) were absolutely right about the Bill of Rights. If they enumerate these particular rights, some idiot is going to assume that that's all the rights that the government cannot infringe.
"A knife sticking in someone's back sure helps one determine criminal activity"
You're working really hard to misinterpret my point.
And the people making these decisions, denying security clearance to the investigators, are going to roll over and play dead when somebody shows up with a big scary WARRANT.
Yeah.
Warrants are indeed necessary to safeguard due process, and the public's rights. Which is why I think it's bad that this surveillance program doesn't require them, and should be investigated, and halted.
What is it that you take a calm look at? What is your data source?
You're conflating a big list of phone numbers (which is pretty innocuous) with a big list of specific phone calls. If that's as innocuous as you seem to wish to believe, why is the program such a deep dark secret that Federal prosecutors can't get security clearance to examine the matter?
You're talking about process (building a PC). I'm interested in results (solving problems using a PC as a tool). Which part you're interested in informs which devices are worth your time/money.
It's a big world...isn't there room enough for both schools of thought, and all combinations thereof?
On the contrary, I think that Apple has made it clear that people will pay for good user experience. Is a Mac Mini or an iPod nano really that expensive?
I could buy PC components, and build it myself. I've done that for years, with a fair amount of success. I'm tired of dealing with all that mess, and now I can buy an iMac for, what? $1300 bucks? And it'll run every app on the planet.
How much is my time worth?
YOU may still enjoy trying to figure out why your PC reboots itself spontaneously. That's fine...you're welcome to it. Me? I'm tired of that rat race.
"Look at the early PC market, for example. Apple sold completely pre-fab systems."
Um, Apple WAS the early PC market, and you built it yourself. I see the point that you're getting at, but you didn't make it very clearly.
People have always said that Macs were less modular and adaptible than PCs. I never found that to be true in my experience, and whatever modularity you gave away (Yeah, Macs didn't have ISA slots to install AdLib Gold cards) you got back by having really good stuff included in the box already.
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"You'd have to argue there is a real privacy breach in a program that gets publically available information voluntarily by the people who own that information."
You're kidding, right?
The Founding Fathers (Well, Hamilton's bunch, anyhow) were absolutely right about the Bill of Rights. If they enumerate these particular rights, some idiot is going to assume that that's all the rights that the government cannot infringe.
There are a lot of idiots in charge right now.
"A knife sticking in someone's back sure helps one determine criminal activity"
You're working really hard to misinterpret my point.
And the people making these decisions, denying security clearance to the investigators, are going to roll over and play dead when somebody shows up with a big scary WARRANT.
Yeah.
Warrants are indeed necessary to safeguard due process, and the public's rights. Which is why I think it's bad that this surveillance program doesn't require them, and should be investigated, and halted.
"I want a serious game console."
Yeah, that's what I look for in a console. Not fun...seriousness.
How do you determine whether there is criminal activity, if no oversight and no investigations are allowed?
Why would you assume that there is not, unless you've never read any history?
What is it that you take a calm look at? What is your data source?
You're conflating a big list of phone numbers (which is pretty innocuous) with a big list of specific phone calls. If that's as innocuous as you seem to wish to believe, why is the program such a deep dark secret that Federal prosecutors can't get security clearance to examine the matter?
How does Google scanning a book give Google a monopoly on anything ever?
"Ambiguous English is poorly written!"
Stupid non-commutative operators...
How about "Poorly written English is ambiguous."
Uh, yeah, if you're only using the built-in apps, you spent WAY too much on your phone.
Almost the same functionality? In a Razr? Pass what you're smokin'.
Why would I lie? Actually, civil aviation is my first love.
/. seems pretty stupid. What is it that you do, that I can avoid?
Having said that, impugning my skills because of what I post on
I believe the term was "steely eyed missile men", and I was born 40 years too late.
"Whose name appears on content production credits" has little, in my mind, to do with "how things really work".
But if that makes your naughty bits tingle, more power to ya.
Yeah, looks like your stash o' H4t0r-aid is doing just fine. What a relief.
OK, Space Lady! I love you! Bye bye!
They're on the xerox machine.
Don't worry about it. Everybody else will.
Uh, yeah dude, I'm totally wackin' it.
I see your point. It just wasn't a very good, or interesting, one.
You get upset when people say "LEGOs", don't you?
"So please, take your smugness"
Huh?
"there is not room enough for both schools of thought here."
And I'm the smug one? It's your way or the highway? Guess what, homey. Patrick Swayze you ain't.
"Aside from trivialities about the Apple I"
You say "trivialities", I say "launched the best computer hardware and software company on the planet".
But whatever.
You're talking about process (building a PC). I'm interested in results (solving problems using a PC as a tool). Which part you're interested in informs which devices are worth your time/money.
It's a big world...isn't there room enough for both schools of thought, and all combinations thereof?
"UE can't sell forever"
On the contrary, I think that Apple has made it clear that people will pay for good user experience. Is a Mac Mini or an iPod nano really that expensive?
I could buy PC components, and build it myself. I've done that for years, with a fair amount of success. I'm tired of dealing with all that mess, and now I can buy an iMac for, what? $1300 bucks? And it'll run every app on the planet.
How much is my time worth?
YOU may still enjoy trying to figure out why your PC reboots itself spontaneously. That's fine...you're welcome to it. Me? I'm tired of that rat race.
"Look at the early PC market, for example. Apple sold completely pre-fab systems."
Um, Apple WAS the early PC market, and you built it yourself. I see the point that you're getting at, but you didn't make it very clearly.
People have always said that Macs were less modular and adaptible than PCs. I never found that to be true in my experience, and whatever modularity you gave away (Yeah, Macs didn't have ISA slots to install AdLib Gold cards) you got back by having really good stuff included in the box already.
Your mileage may vary.
"I would wager that 99.999% of America disagrees with you."
Don't care. That's why we have the Constitution: To prevent democracy from infringing on my personal liberties.
"America wants action, and change."
Again: Don't care. Liberties should not be discretionary.
"I personally don't. Do you?"
Absolutely. Ever read a history textbook?