I find this hard to believe. After taxes your take home is less than 2k/month. Rent/mortgage for a 6 person family in even the most dire of all places in the US would be 1000-1200/month. That leaves you 800/month to feed, pay utilities, pay bills for a family of 6 and you say that you save 400 of that? really?
This won't differentiate google though unless you're already wearing google glasses. If someone can afford better content because they're monetizing it more efficiently - or differently than google THINKS they should, then google is playing a dangerous game of feeling conceited enough that it knows best.
Competition is a good thing. I love it. I'm glad BING is still in the game.. Live.com was a terrible joke. I just think its a dangerious slope for google to follow especially since there is no standard to adhere to. In a word of x resolutions, x browsers, x customers, who is google to decide "above the fold" or even "this much is too much"??
I come to slashdot hoping to read some great comments about Hitchens and the first post i see moded up is someone being an religious apologist? Hitchens was much more than his atheism. Much much more. What a disgrace mods.. seriously.
Doesn't make sense.. They have no phone, no tablet/pad/handheld device. Their ebook reader doesn't even run android. If anything, Barnes and Noble would be a better match to merge an ebook/app store within for some apps.. but amazon? Thats just fragmentation for fragmentation sake
I think it falls into the gray area of net neutrality because it takes away the choices consumers should have and makes them superficial to actually being on the internet. So broadband isn't broadband if your carrier is responsible for chosing what services you can use on it. I mostly made my statement to get people to think about these "outside of the box" issues.
The deal as it is with Xbox live ESPN3 is entirely with your ISP licensing the content, no choice for consumer. If it was a consumer option I would have opted out of paying for it in liue of the price hikes.
As some of you know Xbox Live is getting a cool update called ESPN3. The concept of the app & system is pretty amazing, technology has come a long way to make it so. What you probably didn't know is that to get the deal, Microsoft had to get the ISP's to agree to license the content for Internet Users in order to broadcast ESPN3 over the internet. Not all ISP's bought the license, so not everyone will have ESPN3 - even if you're a Xbox live subscriber.
This is an area where net neutrality should shine. It should protect Microsoft and allow them to license content to distribute and it should protect consumers to not be held hostage to a carrier paying for content as a middleman. I hope this EPSN3 thing can light the fire under the community so they understand how net neutrality can impact them. I know this isn't the "typical case of concern" in regards to p2p or throttling or priority of services, but this just goes to show that Internet Traffic is already beeing bought and sold not just as a commodity itself but something that people have now had to license in order to push specific traffic over that commodity on as a carrier - not just a distributor.
With that said, the app is freaking amazing and i don't even like much sports. The fact you can watch scores, hedge on who will win and i'm sititng in my living room watching HD games on demand or live is pretty awesome. I admire comcast for building out the network to support stuff and maybe, that is what the license agreed to but damn, these backroom deals are dissapointing for the consumer and only pollute the fairness & equality of having broadband now into having to chose a carrior that has the right license deals, not just the best performance.
I can only speak specifically to zune & xbl where I have rented many 1080p movies and enjoyed them immensely. So much so that it amazes me how far we have progressed that I can **instantly** watch a 1080p movie over the internet in HD and 5.1 surround sound on demand in my living room.
If anything, the capabilities of "on demand" video streamed over the internet will only improve and they're far from lacking in the quality, sharpness and detail as you so presume:)
I loved DVD when it came out and "Collected" movies for a while but soon realized it wasn't "Dvd" i loved, but how accessible dvds made movies to me.
Sold off my collection and have never bought a DVD, or a CD or a bluray since. On the CD front for less than the price of a CD at bestbuy i get unlimited access to songs on zune.net and can keep 10 a month non DRM in mp3 format. With Xbox live I can stream 1080p 5.1 digital videos and enjoy a movie in hi-def on my tv or computer or zune or windows phone 7. With netflix i can watch a ton of stuff and use be done with it.
I'd say the "media" is the least important thing of the content I enjoy. Being able to enjoy it anywhere and everywhere is much better than anything bluray/dvd/cd can offer:)
Yeah, I remember when saying "Raspberries" was a swear war because my parents "knew" i was just substituting one bad word for another... the thought of having something to replace one dirty word was just as dirty...
I beg to differ.. If browsers didn't "Excite" people then we wouldn't have this fascinating "War" of Google vs Firefox vs IE vs everything else. If browsers didn't excite people the open source projects would be ghost towns and people wouldn't be downloading & trying out a browser.
For me, the browser doesn't really "Excite" me, i'm just giddy for that "early days" feeling that comes about whenever some new stuff that we can tinker with heads out way. MS didn't just release a browser and say "here you go", they dove headfirst into an HTML5 experience and developed a showcase to go along with it. That is pretty exciting:)
1. MS & Windows shills may laugh about this, but only because they feel your pain. Beyond that, what does making this statement even mean? 2. 64bit hardware is cheap. You can buy an AMD64 X2 5000 Dual Core CPU for 38 bucks shipped.. add a mobo for another 45 and if you need ram, another 50. eBay for more savings
Well, Microsoft has certainly set the bar for developer tools. If hardware companies live up on the hardware side, i'd pretty much say WP7 is "in the bag" but hey, thats just me:)
The WP7 tools are almost too easy to use.. Being late to the game may be the best thing for MS. Learn from everyone elses mistakes (as well as your own heha.. (kin))
Installed the beta and initial speed is very impressive. Slashdot runs quicker in IE9 than it does on Chrome 6 or Opera 10.62. Reddit is also noticeably faster.. Page navigation in eBay is so fast that it doesn't seem like its going across the internet.
I've had a multi-core CPU and dedicated GPU for nearly 10+ years now. Its about time the web browser takes advantage of such.
In fact, I would suggest the opposite of what you say. The work required to scale up the application using all available resources makes a more robust framework to build upon which is better for the long run.
As far as I can tell joe public can't get it until after the official announcement @ 10:30 PDT. Anyone have a beta download link? Still not on connect as of now
I find this hard to believe. After taxes your take home is less than 2k/month. Rent/mortgage for a 6 person family in even the most dire of all places in the US would be 1000-1200/month. That leaves you 800/month to feed, pay utilities, pay bills for a family of 6 and you say that you save 400 of that? really?
Did someone give you your house/property?
This won't differentiate google though unless you're already wearing google glasses. If someone can afford better content because they're monetizing it more efficiently - or differently than google THINKS they should, then google is playing a dangerous game of feeling conceited enough that it knows best.
Competition is a good thing. I love it. I'm glad BING is still in the game.. Live.com was a terrible joke. I just think its a dangerious slope for google to follow especially since there is no standard to adhere to. In a word of x resolutions, x browsers, x customers, who is google to decide "above the fold" or even "this much is too much"??
I come to slashdot hoping to read some great comments about Hitchens and the first post i see moded up is someone being an religious apologist? Hitchens was much more than his atheism. Much much more. What a disgrace mods.. seriously.
Doesn't make sense.. They have no phone, no tablet/pad/handheld device. Their ebook reader doesn't even run android. If anything, Barnes and Noble would be a better match to merge an ebook/app store within for some apps.. but amazon? Thats just fragmentation for fragmentation sake
I think it falls into the gray area of net neutrality because it takes away the choices consumers should have and makes them superficial to actually being on the internet. So broadband isn't broadband if your carrier is responsible for chosing what services you can use on it. I mostly made my statement to get people to think about these "outside of the box" issues.
The deal as it is with Xbox live ESPN3 is entirely with your ISP licensing the content, no choice for consumer. If it was a consumer option I would have opted out of paying for it in liue of the price hikes.
As some of you know Xbox Live is getting a cool update called ESPN3. The concept of the app & system is pretty amazing, technology has come a long way to make it so. What you probably didn't know is that to get the deal, Microsoft had to get the ISP's to agree to license the content for Internet Users in order to broadcast ESPN3 over the internet. Not all ISP's bought the license, so not everyone will have ESPN3 - even if you're a Xbox live subscriber.
This is an area where net neutrality should shine. It should protect Microsoft and allow them to license content to distribute and it should protect consumers to not be held hostage to a carrier paying for content as a middleman. I hope this EPSN3 thing can light the fire under the community so they understand how net neutrality can impact them. I know this isn't the "typical case of concern" in regards to p2p or throttling or priority of services, but this just goes to show that Internet Traffic is already beeing bought and sold not just as a commodity itself but something that people have now had to license in order to push specific traffic over that commodity on as a carrier - not just a distributor.
With that said, the app is freaking amazing and i don't even like much sports. The fact you can watch scores, hedge on who will win and i'm sititng in my living room watching HD games on demand or live is pretty awesome. I admire comcast for building out the network to support stuff and maybe, that is what the license agreed to but damn, these backroom deals are dissapointing for the consumer and only pollute the fairness & equality of having broadband now into having to chose a carrior that has the right license deals, not just the best performance.
I can only speak specifically to zune & xbl where I have rented many 1080p movies and enjoyed them immensely. So much so that it amazes me how far we have progressed that I can **instantly** watch a 1080p movie over the internet in HD and 5.1 surround sound on demand in my living room.
If anything, the capabilities of "on demand" video streamed over the internet will only improve and they're far from lacking in the quality, sharpness and detail as you so presume :)
The quality is far from a block mess.
I loved DVD when it came out and "Collected" movies for a while but soon realized it wasn't "Dvd" i loved, but how accessible dvds made movies to me.
Sold off my collection and have never bought a DVD, or a CD or a bluray since. On the CD front for less than the price of a CD at bestbuy i get unlimited access to songs on zune.net and can keep 10 a month non DRM in mp3 format. With Xbox live I can stream 1080p 5.1 digital videos and enjoy a movie in hi-def on my tv or computer or zune or windows phone 7. With netflix i can watch a ton of stuff and use be done with it.
I'd say the "media" is the least important thing of the content I enjoy. Being able to enjoy it anywhere and everywhere is much better than anything bluray/dvd/cd can offer :)
Yeah, I remember when saying "Raspberries" was a swear war because my parents "knew" i was just substituting one bad word for another... the thought of having something to replace one dirty word was just as dirty...
I beg to differ.. If browsers didn't "Excite" people then we wouldn't have this fascinating "War" of Google vs Firefox vs IE vs everything else. If browsers didn't excite people the open source projects would be ghost towns and people wouldn't be downloading & trying out a browser.
For me, the browser doesn't really "Excite" me, i'm just giddy for that "early days" feeling that comes about whenever some new stuff that we can tinker with heads out way. MS didn't just release a browser and say "here you go", they dove headfirst into an HTML5 experience and developed a showcase to go along with it. That is pretty exciting :)
what is this shit? i don't even....
Its great for a beta.. just keep in mind it will crash and act up everyonce in a while.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/ :)
1. MS & Windows shills may laugh about this, but only because they feel your pain. Beyond that, what does making this statement even mean?
2. 64bit hardware is cheap. You can buy an AMD64 X2 5000 Dual Core CPU for 38 bucks shipped.. add a mobo for another 45 and if you need ram, another 50. eBay for more savings
Well, Microsoft has certainly set the bar for developer tools. If hardware companies live up on the hardware side, i'd pretty much say WP7 is "in the bag" but hey, thats just me :)
The WP7 tools are almost too easy to use.. Being late to the game may be the best thing for MS. Learn from everyone elses mistakes (as well as your own heha.. (kin))
A quick run of Sunspider performance results
http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider-results.html?%7B%223d-cube%22:%5B16,16,16,16,16%5D,%223d-morph%22:%5B21,21,21,21,21%5D,%223d-raytrace%22:%5B16,16,16,16,16%5D,%22access-binary-trees%22:%5B5,5,5,5,5%5D,%22access-fannkuch%22:%5B10,11,11,11,11%5D,%22access-nbody%22:%5B17,17,17,17,18%5D,%22access-nsieve%22:%5B3,3,3,3,3%5D,%22bitops-3bit-bits-in-byte%22:%5B1,1,1,1,1%5D,%22bitops-bits-in-byte%22:%5B4,4,5,4,5%5D,%22bitops-bitwise-and%22:%5B3,3,3,3,3%5D,%22bitops-nsieve-bits%22:%5B9,9,9,9,9%5D,%22controlflow-recursive%22:%5B2,2,2,2,2%5D,%22crypto-aes%22:%5B7,7,7,7,7%5D,%22crypto-md5%22:%5B5,5,5,5,6%5D,%22crypto-sha1%22:%5B6,6,6,6,6%5D,%22date-format-tofte%22:%5B18,18,18,19,19%5D,%22date-format-xparb%22:%5B20,21,20,20,20%5D,%22math-cordic%22:%5B1,1,1,1,1%5D,%22math-partial-sums%22:%5B18,18,18,19,19%5D,%22math-spectral-norm%22:%5B10,10,10,10,10%5D,%22regexp-dna%22:%5B18,18,18,18,18%5D,%22string-base64%22:%5B7,7,7,7,7%5D,%22string-fasta%22:%5B22,22,22,22,21%5D,%22string-tagcloud%22:%5B30,30,30,30,30%5D,%22string-unpack-code%22:%5B32,32,32,32,32%5D,%22string-validate-input%22:%5B17,17,17,17,17%5D%7D
lol wut?
Efficiencies can be found by optimizing the workflow in which case IE 9 optimally takes advantage of GPU or multiple cores for better performance.
Installed the beta and initial speed is very impressive. Slashdot runs quicker in IE9 than it does on Chrome 6 or Opera 10.62. Reddit is also noticeably faster.. Page navigation in eBay is so fast that it doesn't seem like its going across the internet.
Nope.
I've had a multi-core CPU and dedicated GPU for nearly 10+ years now. Its about time the web browser takes advantage of such.
In fact, I would suggest the opposite of what you say. The work required to scale up the application using all available resources makes a more robust framework to build upon which is better for the long run.
All i see there is 9/15/10 :)
Another hour i guess we'll see the downloads
Once the beta is out, i'll give this a shot and post my results.
AMD Phenom 955 Quad Core with ATI 4850 SLI & Windows 7
As far as I can tell joe public can't get it until after the official announcement @ 10:30 PDT. Anyone have a beta download link? Still not on connect as of now