Not to be the obvious, but upgrade to Win2k or XP
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I use word, Visio, Toad (oracle), eXceed (x), Lotus Notes, Netscape, Jinitiator (11i client), and SecureCRT all day long and have no problems.
95,98, NT 4 and 2ksp1 crashed, but i have yet to have a random crash under Win2kSP2 or XP.
Have you looked into reasons of why our PC crashes? I'm constantly building Visio diagrams, documenting schema's, editing 500 page documents full of 20-30 meg schema diagrams and at the same time telneted into several servers, and connected to an application server running on Solaris through exceed and still running Lotus notes and whatnot..
must be buying some sour computers man.
Hello, i just have my laptop go into sleep mode, open it up when i get hope and pick right up (with the exception of telnet sessions).
Why change your whole application suite for what could be an obvious hardware or application problem. My pc quit crashing on my almost 2 years ago and over the last year hasn't crashed unless *I* did something wrong. (like say Yes to a message warning me my VPN driver wasn't certified for XP, but thankfully after rebooting it rolled back to a working config very nicely).
oh well. your loss if you can't figure out what is wrong and blame it on blue screen o'death
solaris x86 is still up on the very link you say doesn't work.
and solaris 9 is still scheduled for x86
as well as being tested on SledgeHammer (amd) and ofcourse Itanium.
so whats the big problem?
Oracle uses "One Oracle Way" addresses all over
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LindowsOS Marches On
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Look up alot of oracle addresses, they do the same.
Re:I got flight school certificates!
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Merry Christmas
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haha, no dude.. white as they can get. And this is my private pilot license. If i were to crash a cessna into a tall building the inhabitants would merely laugh as they washed me off the windows.
Why would anyone consider people wanting to fly a terrorist? oh well
I got flight school certificates!
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Merry Christmas
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Yep, I got the best gift of all, school, and not only that, FLIGHT SCHOOL! Wahoooooooooooooooooooo
My wife gave me the best christmas ever, hopefully next year i'll be flying us to visit family:)
Well, i can't say it enough. Use a web framework, i don't know of any for Perl off the top of my mind, but i use Resin.
Resin is a JSP, Servlet, XML, XSLT application server that support all the latest and greatest EJB components and Managed persistance on the database and makes a great framework to build from.
I have Postgresl for the Database, and use beans to run queries and output via xml and then i have XSLT draft xml data into the wonderfull HTML code.
The beauty is, my code is in beans, servlets and jsp's. My HTML is in.xtp files (in the case of resin) and simple XSLT sheets parse the XML to render to the user.
Just means i can produce output easily for WAP, Palm, CE, Normal Web Browsing, EMail, and what not without modifying the backend. Just create xslt using a session identifier to bring up the corresponding stylesheets for whatever device is acesssing the page.
Enough about java, but something similar, be it in house developed would be your best bet.
I also get away with using a Swing applicatoin to manage the database, users and run reports provide an easy to navigate gui which just interprests the same xml data that would be retrieved by the html client. Not a single change to the backend since i'm using the beauty of soap, jsp's, servlets and java.
Virtualize your interfaces, standardize on your backend and use re-useable components. Perl is similar in many ways that you can load libaries and abstract your code from the display which will save you tons of hours of hassle in any future upgrades compared to the bit of changes you would do now
I'm going to have to create a "LinBoys" fangroup..
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I have upgraded from Windows 2000, to W2k SP1, to W2k SP2, IE 5.5 SP2, DirectX 8.0-8.1, IE 6.0 and lots of other hardware upgrades, driver updates and crap and have paid
$.00
Infact i only paid 149.00 to upgrade to Windows XP after running 2k for a while that wasn't a bad deal either.
Now if i have any problems i can submit the crash dump to Microsoft and within 3 days they have analyzed the dump and written back if it is hardware, software, os bug or program bug.
I can't get that from Linux being an endusers, i don't have time to peruse the code to fix all the bugs that i may come across and well, features WIndows has em all, i'm not waiting for one thing or another then what the latest and greatest will be.
But waite, i also Have a Suse 7.1 server i bought for a few hundred running an Portal 9iAS server, and i have a Professional RedHat 7.2 i have purchased from redhat. Both of which cost me just as much as my windows solution with the same amnount of support. Linux happily runs my Resin/JSP/XML/XSL development server and makes a great workstation for coding..
But believe me, your underestimating the value of having upgrades and at the same time not having to download new kernels, compile, tweak, reboot, and crap like that. That is the luxury of Windows. If you need an update, point your browser to windowsupdate and voila.
Sure Ximian has it, but upgrade your OS to something else and wait... wait.. wait.. and maybe the support will come, or quite possibly after you have already purchased ximian and paid the 9.95 a month for preferred access your already paying out the wazooo for more then what windows costs..
anywhooo, your not right or wrong, but your point is moot without you actually giving any reasons linux would be cheaper. Time is money, and if it takes a while day for me to download an iso, install, patch, secure, tweak and fix a linux box then that has cost me alot more then a 149.00 cost of XP that has installed out of the box on more hardware then i have ever seen..
oh well, to each there own.. just thought i'd poke you for a bit
Hmm, have you ever opened an IDE such as Forte or Visual Builder on Linux? Have you ever tried running Koffice and alike and then switched to a Windows PC and seen how much faster it runs??
The "snappy" performance is *NEEDED* if people are forced to use a gui, which is what KDE is!
You don't have to buy the $600.00 kit, you can buy the console, much like you can/did with the Gamecube.
I'm sorry, but Amped, Project Gothem, and Munch's Odysee won't be on the gamecube or PC and all three of those games are superb titles worthy of the Xbox and any console. Throw in Halo and you have the *BEST* launch lineup of *ANY* console.
How is the gamecube a clear winner??? You didn't list one thing the cube has over the Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox or even my PC.
My XBOX has its own line of games to. You like your stuff, I like mine.
Meanwhile, I wil get to play Silent Hill2, UFC Tapout, Blood Wake, Wreckless XB, GunValkyrie, Jet Set Radio Future, Blood Omen 2, Unreal Championship, House of the Dead 3, Crash Bandicoot - The Wrath of Cortex, Rayman Arena, SpiderMan Xbox..
Thats just a few of the announced games, not to mention Halo, Max Payne, Amped, Munch's Odysee, Project Gotham, Simpsons Road Rage, and Transworld surfing that i'm already playing.
All those games you brag about didn't come out until a YEAR after the ps2 shipped, i can only imagine what will be out on the xbox next year!
The PS2 having 4 more days in the market only outsells the Xbox et all by ~30k units and slashdot is bragging about it?
if you figure the math out, the way the xbox was selling if these were on the same timeline the xbox would have sold over 100k units more then the PS2.
What does this have to do with quality anyhow? I know BMW sells 1% of what ford sells, but hell if i'm going to say for id better then BMW's.
Xbox has Max Payne, Halo, Simpsons Road Rage, Amped, Project Gotham, SSX Tricky, Abe and Silent Hill 2, all of which are plenty rich enough to keep me happy.
This is a multiplatform erra, why people think backwards compatibility is the best i dunno, i don't run Windows XP to be backwards compatible with Windows 3.1, i've sort of passed that era. Just like i wouldn't spend 299 on a hifi vcr to play mono tapes recorded on a single head vcr, doesn't make sense..
after all, isn't slashdot always preaching use the right tool for the right job. If you wanna play PS1 games buy a 25.00 ps1 off ebay and save yourself 275.00:)
Or if you buy a ps2, please atleast say your buying it to play ps2 games. You don't buy a 1.6 ghz athlon to play ping on do you?
Xbox has about all the games the PS2 does. Hell, even an enhance FFX, MGS2"X", GTA3 and all the ea sports titles and everything else is coming over..
for a console barely a month old, the xbox has already 40 games to choose from.. anything form max payne, to halo, to simpsons road rage, to whatever nfl/nba game tickles your fancy..
why spend 300 bucks to run older games as well? that doesn't make sense.. thats like me buying a hi-fi vcr for 299.00 just to play a vast library of mono recordings from a single head vcr.
Well, for alot of people gaming is an experience. Being "expandable" is part of gaming. Being able to play network games, being able to link consoles, being able to use different devices, and have the ability expand has been console heritage, just taking full advantage of with the xbox for the first time.
Gaming is an experience, not just a few heavily marketed, licensed characters.
You are still wrong. The xbox uses a hybrid intel cpu, a hybrid motherboard, a special, not released nv25 gpu, a special memory sharing bus, proprietary directx (which is there more then qualified development api) and a win2k/windows xp micro operating system.
Just because they use that, doesn't mean it is a pc. My dreamcast has a keyboard, mouse, ethernet and modem and runs Windows CE, that doesn't make it a "PC".
Sony recently released linux for the PS2, does that make it a PC?
The GameCube uses a Power PC processor, bios and an ATI video card, not much different then a MAC and could easily be hacked to run any os. Just doesn't include a convenient ethernet port or disk drive.
Xbox is far from a PC. it is about as much of a pc as a Tivo is or as much as a pc as my dreamcast is.
Hell, my dreamcast has the familair powervr chip that i had in one of my old pc's as well.
so being proprietary means it is a good console? or not being proprietary means it is a pc?
and a proprietary machine being a pc is cooler then a pc? (ps2 running linux kit)
It is just a feature of the xbox to rip your own tracks. People wonder what the disk is for and that is one of the features.
The 10 gig disk has room for 50,000 game saves and when you fill that up, it alots room for another 50,000 more (not sure how many it really holds).
The Disk also caches for better load times, and will act as a storage device for the Gaming network so you can download game demos and try before you buy.
Project gotham in its own has killer music. I love driving through NYC listening to Hot 97 fm, hitting england hearing the chemical brothers, hitting san francisco listening to surf music and finally racing in japan with jap pop playing. Physics, Gameply and graphics are superb, smash your ferrari into a lit up sign and you see the reflections against the car as well as the damage, braze the guardraul and see guardrail damage, get bumbed by another car and see fender damage as well as headlights/tailights bust out. Hell you can even see your driver looking around and changing gears!
The games are far from scripted, Munch's Odysee is a beautifull game. I don't even know what you mean by "glow to much" other then the fact if you play Munch's Odysee you just fall lin love with the characters because they're fun, loveable and personable. Even though they're ugly they react to you, they're funny and fit very well into the game that Munch's Odysee is.
Phantasy star is on the Dreamcast and is coming to Gamecube as well as the Xbox.
PGR is a F**KIN awesome game. 300 levels, beatiful graphics, killer soundtrack, EXCELLENT controls and challenging. You won't beat it in 3-5 days, you will get pissed off and try and try again until you actually get the skills to win. Many different challenges from street racing to "kudo" point scoring pending your abilities to slam a ferrari around a corse and not hit the walls and make the best time.
Excellent game, excellent console and the freedoms of music choice are just a small reason to choose the xbox.
Xbox also lets you rip music to the disk drive and play it during the games. Nothing like racing in Project Gotham listening to Pantera or something that gets your blood flowing.
And as far as online games, someone said the Gamecube is getting Phantasy Star online. The XBox is getting that game as well..
oh well, just choose what you wish. I'm very happy with my Xbox. Munch's Odysee is an increadibly charming game and offers a new style of playing, better then any previous version and more unique then a bunch of mario/pikachu characters and such.
Halo is simply incredible, Project Gotham is fun for a racer, Amped is a killer and exact snowboarding game. (if you have ever snowboard, you know it isn't anything like SSX Tricky.. even thouhg that game is fun!). Graphics, Sound, and Video representation on Xbox is second to None, if that is what you like, then the choice is limited.
I don't get everyone saying the Xbox is a PC and getting PC ports while the Gamecube is cool and a unique console.
The Xbox is just as much a "PC" as the Gamecube is a Mac/Apple/PowerPC, so with the anti microsoft politics aside, each console has its own advantages and leave it at that.
If you want to compare against PC's then that rules out Metal Gear Solid, Unreal Tournament, All EA Sports games, The Grand Theft Auto Series, bunch of Sega Games and tons more.. (I can even play tonyhawk on the pc).
Its just the simple fact microsoft chose proven, affordable and mass produceable hardware without changing the underlying infrastructure they have been developing on for the past two decades.
My point is, none of the consoles are a "PC". All these new consoles have there own advantages as well as problems.
SO just game on , read the review and decide for yourself what you want.
Halo isn't the only game. For example "Project Gotham Racing" lets you use some of that 10 gig hard drive to store music that you can substitute in the game. You simply bootup your xbox, pop in an audio cd, rip the tracks, and then load PGR, choose audio and select the tracks you ripped. Now your playing games with the music you like.
Halo, no matter if it comes out for the PC is a great game on the Xbox. The controller is superb for halo controls, i don't know why people despise the controller so much. It (the xbox controller) is MUCH more confortable with games requiring the dual analog sticks then "thumbing" the PS2 type controllers or monkeying with the Nintendo controllers.
DVD Support is great in the Xbox as well support all digital audio outputs other then the costly THX output.
The Xbox isn't meant for PC porting, i don't know whose ass your pulling that out of. I can play EA's games, Tony Hawk and all the other hottest sellers (Including Grand Theft auto) on my PC if you really want to be a wise ass and get precise.
Don't get me wrong, the Gamecube is a great system if your into the mario stuff.
Xbox is far from a PC.. And even if it is a "PC", wasn't that what another console maker was trying to do with LInux?
What makes the Xbox so powerfull and affordable is its pc "roots", hence keeping the cost of ownership for amount of processing power VERY low.
You will get alot more out of an XBox then you will even the Fastest pc right now for the simple fact there is one VERY high powered video card, one sound card, one network card and a single interface. There is no os overhead, no different drivers, no crashes because someone has a cheap video card, no overhead of background processes.
The Xbox is a green, lean and mean machine. Your just missing out on some of the action if you limit your consoles to one vendor.
No, Microsoft isn't lobying pc developers. If you see the latest releases and schedules, most games coming out on the Xbox that are out on PC are coming out for Gamecube and PS2 as well (Max Payne, Unreal Championship, Grand Theft Auto, EA Sports games...) Xbox has its own games though, just like any other console.
The XBOX has hardware assisted/accelerated Dolby Digital 5.1 out, unlike the PS2 which uses part of the main cpu to encode/decode the signal. (Supporting full Dolby DTS without impacting game performance as well as supporting Pro Logic and what not)
Xbox comes with a 10 gig harddrive capable of 50,000 game saves, downloads, character saves and whatnot, PS2 and Gamecube have neither.
Xbox comes with a 100mbit ethernet. PS2 and Gamecube have neither.
Xbox will be upwards compatible with MUCH more success. Say 5 years from now the Xbox will be at 4 ghz, 1 gig ram, 500x dvd rom and half the size, still capable of running previous games without emulation or hardware tricks simply because the process moved forward instead of being completely re-engineered.
Xbox supports "prgressive scanning" on games, and didn't include it on DVD's because mircrosoft wants to sell games, not movies. (but may do so in the future as needed). Gamecube and PS2 don't do progressive scan movies either.
Progressive scanning is still a feature of "Taiste". DVD MOVIES are encoded at what, 500 lines resolution so progressive scanning at those resolutions amounts to what??? NOT MUCH.
Remember, consoles are still "Consumer Devices" Hence they're aren't meant for niche markets of people with 15,000 dollar tv's and they aren't meant to compared to 1,200 dollar progressive scanning dvd players.
However, PS2, Xbox and GC are kick ass systems affordable to the masses and frankly, the Xbox has the "Sex appeal" for those with the big toys already. PS2 was ahead of its time a year ago, and the Game cube is nintendo's toy and nintendo has its own market.
The winner is the consumer. I paid 300.00 for a dvd player 2 years ago, i paid 300 bucks for my xbox wich plays dvds, games and much more. Even if i stick to my 3-5 launch title games and a few more, i still "never lost".
So what is this console war?
Hell, coke, pepsi and dr pepper still duke it out, i can't imagine one ever winning that "war", so why would it be different for any other product? (Mercedes, BMW, Audi..... on and on..)
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I use word, Visio, Toad (oracle), eXceed (x), Lotus Notes, Netscape, Jinitiator (11i client), and SecureCRT all day long and have no problems.
95,98, NT 4 and 2ksp1 crashed, but i have yet to have a random crash under Win2kSP2 or XP.
Have you looked into reasons of why our PC crashes? I'm constantly building Visio diagrams, documenting schema's, editing 500 page documents full of 20-30 meg schema diagrams and at the same time telneted into several servers, and connected to an application server running on Solaris through exceed and still running Lotus notes and whatnot..
must be buying some sour computers man.
Hello, i just have my laptop go into sleep mode, open it up when i get hope and pick right up (with the exception of telnet sessions).
Why change your whole application suite for what could be an obvious hardware or application problem. My pc quit crashing on my almost 2 years ago and over the last year hasn't crashed unless *I* did something wrong. (like say Yes to a message warning me my VPN driver wasn't certified for XP, but thankfully after rebooting it rolled back to a working config very nicely).
oh well. your loss if you can't figure out what is wrong and blame it on blue screen o'death
solaris x86 is still up on the very link you say doesn't work.
and solaris 9 is still scheduled for x86
as well as being tested on SledgeHammer (amd) and ofcourse Itanium.
so whats the big problem?
Look up alot of oracle addresses, they do the same.
haha, no dude.. white as they can get. And this is my private pilot license. If i were to crash a cessna into a tall building the inhabitants would merely laugh as they washed me off the windows.
Why would anyone consider people wanting to fly a terrorist? oh well
My wife gave me the best christmas ever, hopefully next year i'll be flying us to visit family
Hope everyone has a wonderful christmas!
Oh yea, and i got an xbox haha
now back to halo
Well, i can't say it enough. Use a web framework, i don't know of any for Perl off the top of my mind, but i use Resin.
.xtp files (in the case of resin) and simple XSLT sheets parse the XML to render to the user.
Resin is a JSP, Servlet, XML, XSLT application server that support all the latest and greatest EJB components and Managed persistance on the database and makes a great framework to build from.
I have Postgresl for the Database, and use beans to run queries and output via xml and then i have XSLT draft xml data into the wonderfull HTML code.
The beauty is, my code is in beans, servlets and jsp's. My HTML is in
Just means i can produce output easily for WAP, Palm, CE, Normal Web Browsing, EMail, and what not without modifying the backend. Just create xslt using a session identifier to bring up the corresponding stylesheets for whatever device is acesssing the page.
Enough about java, but something similar, be it in house developed would be your best bet.
I also get away with using a Swing applicatoin to manage the database, users and run reports provide an easy to navigate gui which just interprests the same xml data that would be retrieved by the html client. Not a single change to the backend since i'm using the beauty of soap, jsp's, servlets and java.
Virtualize your interfaces, standardize on your backend and use re-useable components. Perl is similar in many ways that you can load libaries and abstract your code from the display which will save you tons of hours of hassle in any future upgrades compared to the bit of changes you would do now
I have upgraded from Windows 2000, to W2k SP1, to W2k SP2, IE 5.5 SP2, DirectX 8.0-8.1, IE 6.0 and lots of other hardware upgrades, driver updates and crap and have paid
$.00
Infact i only paid 149.00 to upgrade to Windows XP after running 2k for a while that wasn't a bad deal either.
Now if i have any problems i can submit the crash dump to Microsoft and within 3 days they have analyzed the dump and written back if it is hardware, software, os bug or program bug.
I can't get that from Linux being an endusers, i don't have time to peruse the code to fix all the bugs that i may come across and well, features WIndows has em all, i'm not waiting for one thing or another then what the latest and greatest will be.
But waite, i also Have a Suse 7.1 server i bought for a few hundred running an Portal 9iAS server, and i have a Professional RedHat 7.2 i have purchased from redhat. Both of which cost me just as much as my windows solution with the same amnount of support. Linux happily runs my Resin/JSP/XML/XSL development server and makes a great workstation for coding..
But believe me, your underestimating the value of having upgrades and at the same time not having to download new kernels, compile, tweak, reboot, and crap like that. That is the luxury of Windows. If you need an update, point your browser to windowsupdate and voila.
Sure Ximian has it, but upgrade your OS to something else and wait... wait.. wait.. and maybe the support will come, or quite possibly after you have already purchased ximian and paid the 9.95 a month for preferred access your already paying out the wazooo for more then what windows costs..
anywhooo, your not right or wrong, but your point is moot without you actually giving any reasons linux would be cheaper. Time is money, and if it takes a while day for me to download an iso, install, patch, secure, tweak and fix a linux box then that has cost me alot more then a 149.00 cost of XP that has installed out of the box on more hardware then i have ever seen..
oh well, to each there own.. just thought i'd poke you for a bit
Hmm, have you ever opened an IDE such as Forte or Visual Builder on Linux? Have you ever tried running Koffice and alike and then switched to a Windows PC and seen how much faster it runs??
The "snappy" performance is *NEEDED* if people are forced to use a gui, which is what KDE is!
You don't have to buy the $600.00 kit, you can buy the console, much like you can/did with the Gamecube.
I'm sorry, but Amped, Project Gothem, and Munch's Odysee won't be on the gamecube or PC and all three of those games are superb titles worthy of the Xbox and any console. Throw in Halo and you have the *BEST* launch lineup of *ANY* console.
How is the gamecube a clear winner??? You didn't list one thing the cube has over the Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox or even my PC.
woah' there nelly.
My XBOX has its own line of games to. You like your stuff, I like mine.
Meanwhile, I wil get to play Silent Hill2, UFC Tapout, Blood Wake, Wreckless XB, GunValkyrie, Jet Set Radio Future, Blood Omen 2, Unreal Championship, House of the Dead 3, Crash Bandicoot - The Wrath of Cortex, Rayman Arena, SpiderMan Xbox..
Thats just a few of the announced games, not to mention Halo, Max Payne, Amped, Munch's Odysee, Project Gotham, Simpsons Road Rage, and Transworld surfing that i'm already playing.
All those games you brag about didn't come out until a YEAR after the ps2 shipped, i can only imagine what will be out on the xbox next year!
The PS2 having 4 more days in the market only outsells the Xbox et all by ~30k units and slashdot is bragging about it?
:)
if you figure the math out, the way the xbox was selling if these were on the same timeline the xbox would have sold over 100k units more then the PS2.
What does this have to do with quality anyhow? I know BMW sells 1% of what ford sells, but hell if i'm going to say for id better then BMW's.
Xbox has Max Payne, Halo, Simpsons Road Rage, Amped, Project Gotham, SSX Tricky, Abe and Silent Hill 2, all of which are plenty rich enough to keep me happy.
This is a multiplatform erra, why people think backwards compatibility is the best i dunno, i don't run Windows XP to be backwards compatible with Windows 3.1, i've sort of passed that era. Just like i wouldn't spend 299 on a hifi vcr to play mono tapes recorded on a single head vcr, doesn't make sense..
after all, isn't slashdot always preaching use the right tool for the right job. If you wanna play PS1 games buy a 25.00 ps1 off ebay and save yourself 275.00
Or if you buy a ps2, please atleast say your buying it to play ps2 games. You don't buy a 1.6 ghz athlon to play ping on do you?
Xbox has about all the games the PS2 does. Hell, even an enhance FFX, MGS2"X", GTA3 and all the ea sports titles and everything else is coming over..
for a console barely a month old, the xbox has already 40 games to choose from.. anything form max payne, to halo, to simpsons road rage, to whatever nfl/nba game tickles your fancy..
why spend 300 bucks to run older games as well? that doesn't make sense.. thats like me buying a hi-fi vcr for 299.00 just to play a vast library of mono recordings from a single head vcr.
Geezus christ, what has slashdot come to that articles like this get 5 - funny?
Simple as that, why just give on choice? Halo doesn't use the quake 3 engine, is fully anti aliased and plays great..
oh wait, are we supposed to only play games based on old engines and previous games??
Like i said, Anandtech may know what they can read off a spec sheet, but these chips may be different.
either way, i'll be happy. i got the digital inputs for my lcd projector and it is wonderfull!
Well, for alot of people gaming is an experience. Being "expandable" is part of gaming. Being able to play network games, being able to link consoles, being able to use different devices, and have the ability expand has been console heritage, just taking full advantage of with the xbox for the first time.
Gaming is an experience, not just a few heavily marketed, licensed characters.
You are still wrong. The xbox uses a hybrid intel cpu, a hybrid motherboard, a special, not released nv25 gpu, a special memory sharing bus, proprietary directx (which is there more then qualified development api) and a win2k/windows xp micro operating system.
Just because they use that, doesn't mean it is a pc. My dreamcast has a keyboard, mouse, ethernet and modem and runs Windows CE, that doesn't make it a "PC".
Sony recently released linux for the PS2, does that make it a PC?
The GameCube uses a Power PC processor, bios and an ATI video card, not much different then a MAC and could easily be hacked to run any os. Just doesn't include a convenient ethernet port or disk drive.
Xbox is far from a PC. it is about as much of a pc as a Tivo is or as much as a pc as my dreamcast is.
Hell, my dreamcast has the familair powervr chip that i had in one of my old pc's as well.
so being proprietary means it is a good console? or not being proprietary means it is a pc?
and a proprietary machine being a pc is cooler then a pc? (ps2 running linux kit)
just curious
It is just a feature of the xbox to rip your own tracks. People wonder what the disk is for and that is one of the features.
The 10 gig disk has room for 50,000 game saves and when you fill that up, it alots room for another 50,000 more (not sure how many it really holds).
The Disk also caches for better load times, and will act as a storage device for the Gaming network so you can download game demos and try before you buy.
Project gotham in its own has killer music. I love driving through NYC listening to Hot 97 fm, hitting england hearing the chemical brothers, hitting san francisco listening to surf music and finally racing in japan with jap pop playing. Physics, Gameply and graphics are superb, smash your ferrari into a lit up sign and you see the reflections against the car as well as the damage, braze the guardraul and see guardrail damage, get bumbed by another car and see fender damage as well as headlights/tailights bust out. Hell you can even see your driver looking around and changing gears!
The games are far from scripted, Munch's Odysee is a beautifull game. I don't even know what you mean by "glow to much" other then the fact if you play Munch's Odysee you just fall lin love with the characters because they're fun, loveable and personable. Even though they're ugly they react to you, they're funny and fit very well into the game that Munch's Odysee is.
Phantasy star is on the Dreamcast and is coming to Gamecube as well as the Xbox.
PGR is a F**KIN awesome game. 300 levels, beatiful graphics, killer soundtrack, EXCELLENT controls and challenging. You won't beat it in 3-5 days, you will get pissed off and try and try again until you actually get the skills to win. Many different challenges from street racing to "kudo" point scoring pending your abilities to slam a ferrari around a corse and not hit the walls and make the best time.
Excellent game, excellent console and the freedoms of music choice are just a small reason to choose the xbox.
Xbox also lets you rip music to the disk drive and play it during the games. Nothing like racing in Project Gotham listening to Pantera or something that gets your blood flowing.
And as far as online games, someone said the Gamecube is getting Phantasy Star online. The XBox is getting that game as well..
oh well, just choose what you wish. I'm very happy with my Xbox. Munch's Odysee is an increadibly charming game and offers a new style of playing, better then any previous version and more unique then a bunch of mario/pikachu characters and such.
Halo is simply incredible, Project Gotham is fun for a racer, Amped is a killer and exact snowboarding game. (if you have ever snowboard, you know it isn't anything like SSX Tricky.. even thouhg that game is fun!). Graphics, Sound, and Video representation on Xbox is second to None, if that is what you like, then the choice is limited.
I don't get everyone saying the Xbox is a PC and getting PC ports while the Gamecube is cool and a unique console.
The Xbox is just as much a "PC" as the Gamecube is a Mac/Apple/PowerPC, so with the anti microsoft politics aside, each console has its own advantages and leave it at that.
If you want to compare against PC's then that rules out Metal Gear Solid, Unreal Tournament, All EA Sports games, The Grand Theft Auto Series, bunch of Sega Games and tons more.. (I can even play tonyhawk on the pc).
Its just the simple fact microsoft chose proven, affordable and mass produceable hardware without changing the underlying infrastructure they have been developing on for the past two decades.
My point is, none of the consoles are a "PC". All these new consoles have there own advantages as well as problems.
SO just game on , read the review and decide for yourself what you want.
Your so wrong. With your same argument the PS2 would only have what, 2 "original games".
Hell, even Metal Gear solid is coming to Xbox (MGS2) and PC.. All EA Games will be on all 3 consoles, PS2 got UT, Xbox gets Unreal Championship.
Hell, i can play Grand Theft Auto on my peecee was well.
Whoever told you the xbox was a pc was dead wrong, just because they use pc components doesn't make it one.
According to this anonymous coward if the Xbox was a PC the Gamecube would be a Macintosh!
That is if Anandtech is correct on its chip assumptions. Until i see otherwise, the Xbox supports 1080i games.
Halo isn't the only game. For example "Project Gotham Racing" lets you use some of that 10 gig hard drive to store music that you can substitute in the game. You simply bootup your xbox, pop in an audio cd, rip the tracks, and then load PGR, choose audio and select the tracks you ripped. Now your playing games with the music you like.
Halo, no matter if it comes out for the PC is a great game on the Xbox. The controller is superb for halo controls, i don't know why people despise the controller so much. It (the xbox controller) is MUCH more confortable with games requiring the dual analog sticks then "thumbing" the PS2 type controllers or monkeying with the Nintendo controllers.
DVD Support is great in the Xbox as well support all digital audio outputs other then the costly THX output.
The Xbox isn't meant for PC porting, i don't know whose ass your pulling that out of. I can play EA's games, Tony Hawk and all the other hottest sellers (Including Grand Theft auto) on my PC if you really want to be a wise ass and get precise.
Don't get me wrong, the Gamecube is a great system if your into the mario stuff.
Xbox is far from a PC.. And even if it is a "PC", wasn't that what another console maker was trying to do with LInux?
What makes the Xbox so powerfull and affordable is its pc "roots", hence keeping the cost of ownership for amount of processing power VERY low.
You will get alot more out of an XBox then you will even the Fastest pc right now for the simple fact there is one VERY high powered video card, one sound card, one network card and a single interface. There is no os overhead, no different drivers, no crashes because someone has a cheap video card, no overhead of background processes.
The Xbox is a green, lean and mean machine. Your just missing out on some of the action if you limit your consoles to one vendor.
No, Microsoft isn't lobying pc developers. If you see the latest releases and schedules, most games coming out on the Xbox that are out on PC are coming out for Gamecube and PS2 as well (Max Payne, Unreal Championship, Grand Theft Auto, EA Sports games...) Xbox has its own games though, just like any other console.
don't know what planet your from, but i plugged my ethernet into that "hole" and have been playing Halo online for 2 weeks now.
The XBOX has hardware assisted/accelerated Dolby Digital 5.1 out, unlike the PS2 which uses part of the main cpu to encode/decode the signal. (Supporting full Dolby DTS without impacting game performance as well as supporting Pro Logic and what not)
Xbox comes with a 10 gig harddrive capable of 50,000 game saves, downloads, character saves and whatnot, PS2 and Gamecube have neither.
Xbox comes with a 100mbit ethernet. PS2 and Gamecube have neither.
Xbox will be upwards compatible with MUCH more success. Say 5 years from now the Xbox will be at 4 ghz, 1 gig ram, 500x dvd rom and half the size, still capable of running previous games without emulation or hardware tricks simply because the process moved forward instead of being completely re-engineered.
Xbox supports "prgressive scanning" on games, and didn't include it on DVD's because mircrosoft wants to sell games, not movies. (but may do so in the future as needed). Gamecube and PS2 don't do progressive scan movies either.
Progressive scanning is still a feature of "Taiste". DVD MOVIES are encoded at what, 500 lines resolution so progressive scanning at those resolutions amounts to what??? NOT MUCH.
Remember, consoles are still "Consumer Devices" Hence they're aren't meant for niche markets of people with 15,000 dollar tv's and they aren't meant to compared to 1,200 dollar progressive scanning dvd players.
However, PS2, Xbox and GC are kick ass systems affordable to the masses and frankly, the Xbox has the "Sex appeal" for those with the big toys already. PS2 was ahead of its time a year ago, and the Game cube is nintendo's toy and nintendo has its own market.
The winner is the consumer. I paid 300.00 for a dvd player 2 years ago, i paid 300 bucks for my xbox wich plays dvds, games and much more. Even if i stick to my 3-5 launch title games and a few more, i still "never lost".
So what is this console war?
Hell, coke, pepsi and dr pepper still duke it out, i can't imagine one ever winning that "war", so why would it be different for any other product? (Mercedes, BMW, Audi..... on and on..)