I personally can't wait for it to be opened up. Star Office seams like a much superior product then microsoft office. Just needs some rough edges cleaned up. But being able to run cross platform, and system independant is a true "Office" Application.
I feel sorry for all you linux whiners out there. M9 Works great on my RedHat 6 box, and my windows 98 SE box..
The last thing you should bitch about is upgrading to libc 2-1, come on people.. get with the times.. internet explorer requires 40-50 meg updates almost each time you upgrade.
The new netscape is a web and application framework. MUCH more powerfull and standard then internet explorer is and will be anytime in the near future.
SO far all you people complaing about segfaults, standardize your system, get with the times. do a lil homework, solve your problems.
Meanwhile, my code updates, my bugzilla notes and my fine running browser and working, and i'm developing websites around the technology based in mozilla..
What are you gaining with dual celeron CPU's? nothing.. intel sells the very same warrantied, tested and supported setup with Dual Pentium II CPU's. So why spend the time and money you wasted on an Abit board when you could get a full powered Dual CPU PII board and 2 CPU's for the same cost.
The fact you like overclocking may be your reason you want a dual celeron. But, Intel wants to sell quality and since it re-assures its quality its a limited few out there screwing it up for others that end up driving costs and losses on cpu's. So while you may be able to have fun with your celery sticks, its not supported, and intel will do whatever it can to get that point across.
CPU's are like cars, screw with the chasis and your engine blows.. your simply fudged.. Intel wants to stop them few fudged up people from draining at its market. from fried cpu's to loosing money in its only profitable market (high end cpu's). Thats what its trying to prevent.
doesn't matter anyway... other system are out there, more capable smp systems exist. And well. If you want to hack your machine, then you will just have to find a hackable cpu.. Otherwise just use something thats supported or get yourself an athlon.
Whats the point of squashing microsoft and letting sun step in? Slowaris isn't known for being fast, the gui still isn't quite there. Linux, well sun doesn't own linux, so it may be working on spinning off another company to market it, but who knows. It doesn't benifet me to have a bigger company working on the software. I feel that a small company with tighter releases does a much better job anyhow..
After all, MS is in court about this, the seperation of OS from Applications.. i think Sun just shot themselves in the foot as far as the court battle goes.. microsoft will now easily be able to prove the volitility and marketeability of the market..
I love sun, i love my sparcs.. but whats the point.. another sell, another buy, another company after your money:)
apparently they're in the works.. nothing official yet. Either way it sucks. Another big company buying up small company. Nothing new, but the frequent merge and buy that big boys like.
I hope they will atleast keep all platforms going, would really be a stinker if they dropped the linux version.
I personally think the only way for RHAT to survive now that its taken a financial stance on linux rather then a open stance on it is to merge. So buy up be, and get real multimedia support in linux and have a journaling filesystem
most of all, return some of that money back to the public.. the amount of shares kept internal for something like this is outrageous.. give some back.
The articles has lots of truth. its Satire and someones beliefs
Example. RedHat.com is the new nasdaq baby, and a boom for many people who already have money and greed in mind rather then superior software. I'm sorry, but how can a company go public off public software and still keep enough shares to let its presidents and VP's have a networth of ~40 million a piece and on up to whatever..
GNU/FSF Foundataion.. i don't "buy" that for what its worth. Free software my ass. It would be great if we all got donations and cash awards. I would believe it, but go to www.gnu.org, you see make donations and make contributions and this is what needs to be done. Whats so free about that?
Open Source, Now that is something *I* Believe in. I learn from it, i can add to it, or i can support it. I can see what i'm running with my own eyes, i can educate myself and others on how it works, and its purpose. And i could care less if it costs money to license it or for support for it. Its something i can peak into and optimize for my needs
Linux has lost its vision. who gives a rats ass about microsoft. i run Windows on plenty of machines, it works great for playing falcon 4.0 and most of all i wouldn't consider running these games on linux even if i could since its not optimized at all for graphics performance not now or anytime in the near future.
I would like to see a company go public, offer its shares of stocks on sourceXchange or some kind of reward for development website. Screw all the hippies at redhat, they're deceptive and evil for keeping that much for themselves. Organizing a company and a business around linux is great, organizing a foundation such as GNU/FSF is great to. they work to provide stability, but come on redhat, give back what gave you so much.. and if you plan on giving back, get your investor and redhat site updated to offer some feedback of what your raping the public for.
As it is right now, Linux is a baby of one person and a dollar sign for a broker.. why can't we just develop a technologically advanced and superior system instead of building something to defeat microsoft or make us money.
I want a small, tight kernel. I want new and forward looking technological advancements, superior systems, and spinoffs into other variens such as taligent and other breakthrough os's.
If that isn't gonna happen, i just suggest redhat to merge with BeOS and work on taking over microsoft.. as that seems to be there only goal.. atleast BeOS has media performance and linux has loyalty.. so that would be my recommendation right now.
see, your thinking of the movie from a critics standpoint.. not from someone with a simple script and no budget.. i'm not talking about film quality and expertise of actors.. thats what sets this film apart from others, and thats what i like.. the feeling that it was home made, the feeling that i've done stupid and cheasy films like it, but if you watch it, and enjoy it and listen and be there like you did it, the movie kicks ass no matter who or what anyone else says is bad or good.. just put yourself in it..
it sad most movies you sit back and watch the special effects and expect it. blair witch as cool beacuse it took you to a level at your own and made you a part of it..
don't expect a die hard or a beverly hills cop or anything fancy, expect what you would get out of your own cam corder and your own camping trip. and then you will enjoy it.
First of all, the Processors available today are not even getting any use. Build a better BUS, find an alternative to IRQ's thats modern. Give me a backplane system that handles gigabits of data so my processor actually has something to do. Give me a drive system that pumps our in gigs a second rather then 10-15 megs at a time. Give me something i can run visual interpretations on, exploration systems.
I say its time to stop engineering new fangled ways to try and put intel out of business, but rather develop something that will actually use current technology. a Quad Processor Xeon with 550mhz CPU's and 1 meg of cache is a killer system, but develop technology to allow Real time OS functionality, bust mastering/dma bursting high bandwidth backplane systems.
Too bad sun went PCI instead of pioneering. They've been know to be way ahead of the times rather then just accepting todays markets.. oh well.:)
anyone want to make an english front end and just send the data to there cgi's? or if they have text files that you can email, i guess that can be translated, and just use that.. anyone got any offers for that? i don't know the last bit of german to even know what text files to look for (like domain-reg.txt on nsi's ftp..)
My biggest recommendation is. KEEP SOMEONE in the office:) It was pretty dissapointing to only have 1-2 new articles a day, the server crash and images not show up for almost a week.
I know being "Slashdot" is fun, but like any business you have to have someone around to run the darn thing. Remotely Working works for reading emails and stuff, but you can't expect a server to run by itself or to be able to fix problems remotely.
other then that, congrats on the expo! wish i could have been there to see it, but alas. i was working
Freshmeat was a publicly supported site, Redhat helped and many other people helped. It had no commercial backend and really didn't require any funding.
I think its kind of sad that corporations are taking away the public support of "linux" and turning into corporate control. Thats pretty damn dissapointing
I like the donation model and support model better then the umbrella and buyout model.
Well, Business is Business People, You have to have a plan of attack and a way to cope with normal business issues. Non paying lusers is a huge problem with any business. Hell, i don't pay all my parking tickets myself and that effects one person or another in one fashion or another.
Basically my gist is your business model has to compensate for these people. If they are a problem, sell off the accounts to a collection agency and get what you can. Write off as losses and save some cash on taxes.
While i have faith in the linux community, you don't just close doors because you have a few deadbeats. 7000 in debt is NOTHING and i think thats kind of rediculous to shut down.
I've missed car payments, i've paid my telephone bill late. I had to go to the hospital and spent every dime i had on that.. other people have the same problems and can't make payments. BUT they do turn off my services, disable my long distance or notify me of there cancellation/reconnection policy
So just get the deadbeats to pay, or cancel there accounts and focus on new and incoming sales and paying customers.. OBVIOUSLY the current pricing model doesn't cover your costs so that may be the biggest concern rather then blaming it on the customers
Basically the idea behind an IPO is to sell the underwritten shares of stuck to fund the company for growth and immediate short term needs. If 5,000 joe schmoes buy in at 13, and sell at highest bid on opening day that would be an average of 50,000 shares sold and bought and still bouncing around on opening day. The purpose is for funding the company, and in order for this to work there has to be long term investment within redhat.
Just because you can't buy 100 shares and make a quick few thousand bucks doesn't mean E*TRADE is trying to screw you over. If you had a 50,000 dollar investment then that is something the company will benifet from. The average joe would sell immediatly if the stocks went from 13 to 50.00 but an investment firm would hold off for the long run as its cheaper for them to hold up money in investments and such and it offers a higher profit margine then savings and CD's
There is *no* such thing as a free meal, and i personally laugh at everyone of you out there bitching about not getting in on the bandwagon. Its not about YOU getting the money, its about RedHat and the underwritters getting the money. When the stocks settle, well then you can take ownership in part of redhat. but if even 5,000 people are buying 100 shares a piece and 50,000 shares of stock are floating around, its not good at all. The price would be to volital and the market would most likely drop below value or never reach its initiall estimated value and loose money on the IPO. 5,000 is a small #, i'm sure more people then that want in on the IPO bandwagon, so the numbers could be even larger.
You should be proud to own part of Redhat as a company, and not expecting to get rich from it. Hell i've written stuff for linux, i've installed many servers, and i wish i could get rich quick too. but geezus, give the market the faith its been running on for years and shut your whinny traps.
I think its rather nice to pay developers to do what they do.. its got to be nice to be able to develop your projects, get paid for it, and release it open source..
seems to be the perfect way to do what you want, get paid for it, and make it available for everyone to use.
You know, the biggest benefit AOL has for Mozilla is to kill it and claim in the antitrust suit that micrsofot is hurting an opensource movement.
But on the other hand, mozilla is rocking along right now.. the latest build is actually pretty sweet, while not completely different, it offers alot more then the crummy 4.6.. rememebr they're talking about Mozilla, and not "Netscape Communicator"
But, i'm just assuming, and making an ass of myself probably. But i do think AOL sees more money and bigger dollar signs in a Lawsuit or a totall new product, and claiming that Netscape died officially would mean a very hard blow against microsoft. Also AOL 5.0 is being released.. so that may be the reference they're using as for a release date.
And with the monopolistic practices being poked at and sternly watched for, AMD has a chance, if compaq/ibm/dell and the big boys of the market don't buy into the Athlon processors, i could see AMD suing all sorts of people and eventually winning.
The market is so fragile and based on reports instead of #'s that anyone could take over, and i don't see AMD dissapearing anytime soon.
Plus 10% increase and higher for use on current equipment is AMAZING. Just think if your PCI SCSI controller and AGP 4.0 Video board ran at 200 MHZ the speed increase would be stronomical. Research and Data Storage companies would kill for that kind of performance and i see that driving sales of high end equipment more then joe schmoe who doesn't now what the hell he's buying in the first place.
I personally can't wait to get a CPU from them again, i remember my 386DX 40 was the fasted machine around, and i could run DESQview and my BBS no problem, and OS/2 was great on it also. I see its time for AMD to have the fastest processor around and I am looking forward to it.
also, i could care less if it was amd or cyrix or ibm or intel.. i'm also thinking about a nice 450mhz G3 to add to my assortment:)
geezus people.. cry a lil more why don't you. Banner add shmanner add they have to make money somehow. Google could ofcourse become the PBS of search engines and that might be there plans, but obviously the funding is there, they have to figure a profit margin in somewhere so ohhh.. we have to get banner adds.. SO WHAT. I bet most of the people bitching here have banner adds on there own website or are thinking of ways to setup there own mini portals or what not. It has to be paid for somehow, so why don't you quit whining and say congrats for someone making it in an already flooded market, and use what you want. Speed/quickneess/reliability - yahoo works great. so does google, but they all havea niche and they all fit in somewhere.. Google may just use the funding to sell there engines/software products too.. WHO KNOWS? and who cares. use what you want. if you dont' like it, no reason to whine about it.
Brian D. Litman Co-founder, President & Chief Executive Officer Tel: +1-323-656-1200 Fax: +1-708-575-0821 Email: brian@playmediasystems.com there is the VP's info. Let him know how you feel about frivilous lawsuites.. Hmm.. he is effecting my abililty to download available mp3's and play them, and since i run a shoutcast server uhm i'm loosing airtime, and potential customers over a frivilous lawsuit..
i could prolly get a class action if i want to stoop as low as they do.. i could clame i'm using a different media player to stream my music but that my listeners by bulk are using a registered and licensed winamp and since the injunction against them, websites aren't offering the newer version without the disputed software because of lawsuit reasons, so therefore its effecting my business and that of hundreds of other legal streaming media companies.
but then again, why would anyone waiste there time to do something like that.. when they could simply be pioneering instead of suing cuz they can't keep up with the technology themselves..
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so why post anything about "beta" redhat releases? eh.
I personally can't wait for it to be opened up. Star Office seams like a much superior product then microsoft office. Just needs some rough edges cleaned up. But being able to run cross platform, and system independant is a true "Office" Application.
Have they released the sources to this beast yet?
durrrrrrrrrr
I'm sure most of the linux geeks are beer guzzling, liquor drinking, party animals who couldn't dare to live in such a restrictive state.
:)
:)
On the other hand, 8 wives must be damn fun!
I feel sorry for all you linux whiners out there. M9 Works great on my RedHat 6 box, and my windows 98 SE box..
The last thing you should bitch about is upgrading to libc 2-1, come on people.. get with the times.. internet explorer requires 40-50 meg updates almost each time you upgrade.
The new netscape is a web and application framework. MUCH more powerfull and standard then internet explorer is and will be anytime in the near future.
SO far all you people complaing about segfaults, standardize your system, get with the times. do a lil homework, solve your problems.
Meanwhile, my code updates, my bugzilla notes and my fine running browser and working, and i'm developing websites around the technology based in mozilla..
hehe.. not to be rude, but there was a contest on mozilazine.org and mozilla.org to create that icon.. you should have voiced your opinion back then
What are you gaining with dual celeron CPU's? nothing.. intel sells the very same warrantied, tested and supported setup with Dual Pentium II CPU's. So why spend the time and money you wasted on an Abit board when you could get a full powered Dual CPU PII board and 2 CPU's for the same cost.
The fact you like overclocking may be your reason you want a dual celeron. But, Intel wants to sell quality and since it re-assures its quality its a limited few out there screwing it up for others that end up driving costs and losses on cpu's. So while you may be able to have fun with your celery sticks, its not supported, and intel will do whatever it can to get that point across.
CPU's are like cars, screw with the chasis and your engine blows.. your simply fudged..
Intel wants to stop them few fudged up people from draining at its market. from fried cpu's to loosing money in its only profitable market (high end cpu's). Thats what its trying to prevent.
doesn't matter anyway... other system are out there, more capable smp systems exist. And well. If you want to hack your machine, then you will just have to find a hackable cpu.. Otherwise just use something thats supported or get yourself an athlon.
Whats the point of squashing microsoft and letting sun step in? Slowaris isn't known for being fast, the gui still isn't quite there. Linux, well sun doesn't own linux, so it may be working on spinning off another company to market it, but who knows. It doesn't benifet me to have a bigger company working on the software. I feel that a small company with tighter releases does a much better job anyhow..
:)
After all, MS is in court about this, the seperation of OS from Applications.. i think Sun just shot themselves in the foot as far as the court battle goes.. microsoft will now easily be able to prove the volitility and marketeability of the market..
I love sun, i love my sparcs.. but whats the point.. another sell, another buy, another company after your money
apparently they're in the works.. nothing official yet. Either way it sucks. Another big company buying up small company. Nothing new, but the frequent merge and buy that big boys like.
I hope they will atleast keep all platforms going, would really be a stinker if they dropped the linux version.
I personally think the only way for RHAT to survive now that its taken a financial stance on linux rather then a open stance on it is to merge. So buy up be, and get real multimedia support in linux and have a journaling filesystem
most of all, return some of that money back to the public.. the amount of shares kept internal for something like this is outrageous.. give some back.
The articles has lots of truth. its Satire and someones beliefs
Example. RedHat.com is the new nasdaq baby, and a boom for many people who already have money and greed in mind rather then superior software. I'm sorry, but how can a company go public off public software and still keep enough shares to let its presidents and VP's have a networth of ~40 million a piece and on up to whatever..
GNU/FSF Foundataion.. i don't "buy" that for what its worth. Free software my ass. It would be great if we all got donations and cash awards. I would believe it, but go to www.gnu.org, you see make donations and make contributions and this is what needs to be done. Whats so free about that?
Open Source, Now that is something *I* Believe in. I learn from it, i can add to it, or i can support it. I can see what i'm running with my own eyes, i can educate myself and others on how it works, and its purpose. And i could care less if it costs money to license it or for support for it. Its something i can peak into and optimize for my needs
Linux has lost its vision. who gives a rats ass about microsoft. i run Windows on plenty of machines, it works great for playing falcon 4.0 and most of all i wouldn't consider running these games on linux even if i could since its not optimized at all for graphics performance not now or anytime in the near future.
I would like to see a company go public, offer its shares of stocks on sourceXchange or some kind of reward for development website. Screw all the hippies at redhat, they're deceptive and evil for keeping that much for themselves. Organizing a company and a business around linux is great, organizing a foundation such as GNU/FSF is great to. they work to provide stability, but come on redhat, give back what gave you so much.. and if you plan on giving back, get your investor and redhat site updated to offer some feedback of what your raping the public for.
As it is right now, Linux is a baby of one person and a dollar sign for a broker.. why can't we just develop a technologically advanced and superior system instead of building something to defeat microsoft or make us money.
I want a small, tight kernel. I want new and forward looking technological advancements, superior systems, and spinoffs into other variens such as taligent and other breakthrough os's.
If that isn't gonna happen, i just suggest redhat to merge with BeOS and work on taking over microsoft.. as that seems to be there only goal.. atleast BeOS has media performance and linux has loyalty.. so that would be my recommendation right now.
see, your thinking of the movie from a critics standpoint.. not from someone with a simple script and no budget.. i'm not talking about film quality and expertise of actors.. thats what sets this film apart from others, and thats what i like.. the feeling that it was home made, the feeling that i've done stupid and cheasy films like it, but if you watch it, and enjoy it and listen and be there like you did it, the movie kicks ass no matter who or what anyone else says is bad or good.. just put yourself in it..
it sad most movies you sit back and watch the special effects and expect it. blair witch as cool beacuse it took you to a level at your own and made you a part of it..
don't expect a die hard or a beverly hills cop or anything fancy, expect what you would get out of your own cam corder and your own camping trip. and then you will enjoy it.
Try This, get a camera, make your own films, and watch them. You will laugh, you will cry, you will be embarrassed and you will think its stupid.
:)
then watch blair witch, and you can relate on the whole aspect on a newer level.
Blair witch kicks ass
First of all, the Processors available today are not even getting any use. Build a better BUS, find an alternative to IRQ's thats modern. Give me a backplane system that handles gigabits of data so my processor actually has something to do. Give me a drive system that pumps our in gigs a second rather then 10-15 megs at a time. Give me something i can run visual interpretations on, exploration systems.
:)
I say its time to stop engineering new fangled ways to try and put intel out of business, but rather develop something that will actually use current technology. a Quad Processor Xeon with 550mhz CPU's and 1 meg of cache is a killer system, but develop technology to allow Real time OS functionality, bust mastering/dma bursting high bandwidth backplane systems.
Too bad sun went PCI instead of pioneering. They've been know to be way ahead of the times rather then just accepting todays markets..
oh well.
anyone want to make an english front end and just send the data to there cgi's? or if they have text files that you can email, i guess that can be translated, and just use that.. anyone got any offers for that? i don't know the last bit of german to even know what text files to look for (like domain-reg.txt on nsi's ftp..)
My biggest recommendation is. KEEP SOMEONE in the office :) It was pretty dissapointing to only have 1-2 new articles a day, the server crash and images not show up for almost a week.
I know being "Slashdot" is fun, but like any business you have to have someone around to run the darn thing. Remotely Working works for reading emails and stuff, but you can't expect a server to run by itself or to be able to fix problems remotely.
other then that, congrats on the expo! wish i could have been there to see it, but alas. i was working
Freshmeat was a publicly supported site, Redhat helped and many other people helped. It had no commercial backend and really didn't require any funding.
I think its kind of sad that corporations are taking away the public support of "linux" and turning into corporate control. Thats pretty damn dissapointing
I like the donation model and support model better then the umbrella and buyout model.
Well, Business is Business People, You have to have a plan of attack and a way to cope with normal business issues. Non paying lusers is a huge problem with any business. Hell, i don't pay all my parking tickets myself and that effects one person or another in one fashion or another.
Basically my gist is your business model has to compensate for these people. If they are a problem, sell off the accounts to a collection agency and get what you can. Write off as losses and save some cash on taxes.
While i have faith in the linux community, you don't just close doors because you have a few deadbeats. 7000 in debt is NOTHING and i think thats kind of rediculous to shut down.
I've missed car payments, i've paid my telephone bill late. I had to go to the hospital and spent every dime i had on that.. other people have the same problems and can't make payments. BUT they do turn off my services, disable my long distance or notify me of there cancellation/reconnection policy
So just get the deadbeats to pay, or cancel there accounts and focus on new and incoming sales and paying customers.. OBVIOUSLY the current pricing model doesn't cover your costs so that may be the biggest concern rather then blaming it on the customers
Basically the idea behind an IPO is to sell the underwritten shares of stuck to fund the company for growth and immediate short term needs. If 5,000 joe schmoes buy in at 13, and sell at highest bid on opening day that would be an average of 50,000 shares sold and bought and still bouncing around on opening day. The purpose is for funding the company, and in order for this to work there has to be long term investment within redhat.
Just because you can't buy 100 shares and make a quick few thousand bucks doesn't mean E*TRADE is trying to screw you over. If you had a 50,000 dollar investment then that is something the company will benifet from. The average joe would sell immediatly if the stocks went from 13 to 50.00 but an investment firm would hold off for the long run as its cheaper for them to hold up money in investments and such and it offers a higher profit margine then savings and CD's
There is *no* such thing as a free meal, and i personally laugh at everyone of you out there bitching about not getting in on the bandwagon. Its not about YOU getting the money, its about RedHat and the underwritters getting the money. When the stocks settle, well then you can take ownership in part of redhat. but if even 5,000 people are buying 100 shares a piece and 50,000 shares of stock are floating around, its not good at all. The price would be to volital and the market would most likely drop below value or never reach its initiall estimated value and loose money on the IPO. 5,000 is a small #, i'm sure more people then that want in on the IPO bandwagon, so the numbers could be even larger.
You should be proud to own part of Redhat as a company, and not expecting to get rich from it. Hell i've written stuff for linux, i've installed many servers, and i wish i could get rich quick too. but geezus, give the market the faith its been running on for years and shut your whinny traps.
I think its rather nice to pay developers to do what they do.. its got to be nice to be able to develop your projects, get paid for it, and release it open source..
seems to be the perfect way to do what you want, get paid for it, and make it available for everyone to use.
You know, the biggest benefit AOL has for Mozilla is to kill it and claim in the antitrust suit that micrsofot is hurting an opensource movement.
But on the other hand, mozilla is rocking along right now.. the latest build is actually pretty sweet, while not completely different, it offers alot more then the crummy 4.6.. rememebr they're talking about Mozilla, and not "Netscape Communicator"
But, i'm just assuming, and making an ass of myself probably. But i do think AOL sees more money and bigger dollar signs in a Lawsuit or a totall new product, and claiming that Netscape died officially would mean a very hard blow against microsoft.
Also AOL 5.0 is being released.. so that may be the reference they're using as for a release date.
And with the monopolistic practices being poked at and sternly watched for, AMD has a chance, if compaq/ibm/dell and the big boys of the market don't buy into the Athlon processors, i could see AMD suing all sorts of people and eventually winning.
:)
The market is so fragile and based on reports instead of #'s that anyone could take over, and i don't see AMD dissapearing anytime soon.
Plus 10% increase and higher for use on current equipment is AMAZING. Just think if your PCI SCSI controller and AGP 4.0 Video board ran at 200 MHZ the speed increase would be stronomical. Research and Data Storage companies would kill for that kind of performance and i see that driving sales of high end equipment more then joe schmoe who doesn't now what the hell he's buying in the first place.
I personally can't wait to get a CPU from them again, i remember my 386DX 40 was the fasted machine around, and i could run DESQview and my BBS no problem, and OS/2 was great on it also. I see its time for AMD to have the fastest processor around and I am looking forward to it.
also, i could care less if it was amd or cyrix or ibm or intel.. i'm also thinking about a nice 450mhz G3 to add to my assortment
geezus people.. cry a lil more why don't you. Banner add shmanner add they have to make money somehow. Google could ofcourse become the PBS of search engines and that might be there plans, but obviously the funding is there, they have to figure a profit margin in somewhere so ohhh.. we have to get banner adds.. SO WHAT.
I bet most of the people bitching here have banner adds on there own website or are thinking of ways to setup there own mini portals or what not. It has to be paid for somehow, so why don't you quit whining and say congrats for someone making it in an already flooded market, and use what you want. Speed/quickneess/reliability - yahoo works great. so does google, but they all havea niche and they all fit in somewhere.. Google may just use the funding to sell there engines/software products too.. WHO KNOWS? and who cares. use what you want. if you dont' like it, no reason to whine about it.
i could prolly get a class action if i want to stoop as low as they do.. i could clame i'm using a different media player to stream my music but that my listeners by bulk are using a registered and licensed winamp and since the injunction against them, websites aren't offering the newer version without the disputed software because of lawsuit reasons, so therefore its effecting my business and that of hundreds of other legal streaming media companies.
but then again, why would anyone waiste there time to do something like that.. when they could simply be pioneering instead of suing cuz they can't keep up with the technology themselves..