5. Everyone else is using Unix, it's the standard already.
6. Microsoft has a habit of giving you the perception that you must upgrade (both OS and Machine) to get nonstandard "features" which are usually broken in the first implementation, which in the end requires another upgrade.
7. Microsofts support costs are extraordinarily high compared to other venders. (see Unix is the standard).
8. I personally have NEVER seen a Unix system crash.
Your computer must be broken, or perhaps you've installed bad drivers. I'm using Win ME with -NO- crashes.
Broken. Runs Linux and BeOS fine (with exception that for some reason sound doesn't work). Using all WHQL drivers (certified my MS for WinME). No Windows just can't multi-task very well. Sure I could have stability if I only ran one application at a time....
On the other hand, my Mac has been running 24/7 since I installed OS X-PB on it (well over a month ago). It gets used directly at least 4-5 hours a day and indirectly via natd, routing to my PC, 24/7.
The PC, with a fresh install of WinME, I'm writing this one crashes at least three times a day. Oh yeah, it's only 1 months old and only has one third party application on it, Half-Life.
Two, the largest uptime you can get with Windows is 47 days (yes, even up all the time without a use, it crashes).
Well, some people are actually afraid of using their computers, because Windows crashes so much. Some people prefer not to tinker with default settings because Windows is so prone to destroying itself. Most people never change any default settings.
Not being a OSS minded person, this question calls into question the whole idea put forward by OSS minded people on how OSS can make money: Services. This is EXACTLY how OSS will make money. Red Hat sells you tech support, Gnome litters your desktop with links to its web page, so does KDE. Nautilus is going to make money by selling "web services" that are tied to their interfaces (Apple's iTools for Linux) and Netscape makes money by putting links in its browser to it's services, just as Microsoft does with IE (no wonder MSN gets so many visits, the the default home page for IE, which most people don't even know how to change).
If there is demand for a different project based of the Mozilla code that doesn't spam you every step of the way to go to Netscape.com, someone will compile it. Noone forced you to use Netscape, and if Netscape dies, oh well, Mozilla will live and someone else will take up the project.
Now, if you're computer is too old for you, is it benefiting the poor and needy to have it? Only if you want to keep them poor and needy....We need a government program to get Windows 2000 compatible computers into the ghettos
I take issue with this.
1. I have personally seen a child (single mother, no health care, just off welfare) light up who I gave an old 6116CD PowerMac (601-60MhzPPC/72MB ram). I have also personally seen that same very child a year later install both LinuxPPC and MacOS 7.6 as a dual boot machine. He is now 11 years old and likes to hose his Linux Install by recompiling everything he can and tinkering with every config file he can find. Evenally, he will make a LOT of money doing that to make a computer work.
2. The government should not dictate what Operating System should people use. It's already hard enough to find a usable competitor to Windows, we don't need it any harder.
3. Even if the govt did have a vested interest in giving computers of a default OS to the poor, Win2000 is still nothing more than a niche OS compared to Win9X/ME, MacOS and in some markets Un*x based OS.
I'm not sure if I understand. Will IBM pay you $30 or do you play IBM $30 to recycle your computer? It's actually unclear in the press release.
Also, what advantages does recycling a computer have over just giving it to a needy person (or something like Goodwill)? I actually own a Color Classic (its a collector's item) that is hooked up to my LAN (OS X PB running natd routing to ppp) and functions wonderfully for my kid to do email and web browsing. Seems like a waste to just dismantle a computer that still works.
There are those of us (*gasp*) who don't have the luxury of standardizing to IE. You see, there is more to this world than Windows. I use MacOS X PB (iCab) and BeOS (x86) at home. Neither one of which has IE on them. There is no "Winner" of the Browser wars. I don't use Microsoft products.
If this lives up to its promise of platform independence,
It won't. End of story. If you want clear and concrete examples of this, just look at todays trends. How many Slashdotters primary platform has a web browser that can access Dialpad? How many Slashdotters can access Apple's iTools. As a Mac user, I have run into a number cases where sites provide a service, that I cannot access because they use IE (for Windows)specific coding. Errors as basic as storing links in a page as http://www.????.com/mypage\index.html are more common than you think. Broken tables are very common, ever since the advent of CSS (along with the advent of WYSIWYG HTML coding apps, which convert layers to tables) and it's improper implementation (which renders fine in Windows).
If today you can't go to Dialpad and make your free phone call with MacOS, BeOS, or with Netscape (any platform) AND have both Newbies and "Paid Coders" made basic mistakes because IE for Windows doesn't care, it is reasonable to expect that tommorrow, Office is NOT going to run "properly" either, much less the "services" other companies offer.
If you are going to bother paying money for registered domain names, because you are angry, you should be a bit more creative like this is. At least then, when they get the domain names back, their InterNIC lookup still looks funny.
What part of the words "OPEN API" did you not understand in the chart referenced by the original post? Did you even bother reading it?
"Open"ing a API does NOT mean GPL'ing the API. Just ask Stallman, he'll give you a lecture on what Open does and does not mean, before even talking to you about the GPL.
Obviously, they are selling this console at a loss, just like everyone else. They are going to make money off the development tools and certifications (certifications is noted in the article). Also, it appear's to be running on commody hardware. So....
1. All the API's are not GPL'ed. If they were, anyone could develop without Indrema's help.
2. Even if it were using a non-X86 processor, they must release the source to the Kernel, thereby allowing hackers everywhere to remove the prebuilt OS, and install Linux on it just like they did with the iOpener.
Sounds to me, like they are going to have a very difficult time making money of this thing, even if it sells.
There is a general rule of thumb when it comes to buying new toys. The more complex the toy is, technologically speak, the more components there are to fail. What happens when you have all your mp3's on a wireless harddrive for your house, with three computers all detecting and using it, dies? If it's just the case, that's going to be a lot more expensive to replace than an external harddrive. What happen's when someone doesn't set up their wireless home network "right" and their neighbor can see all their pr0n, or better yet, their Quicken data file.
I'm not about to broadcast my business over the airwaves, even if it does have Linux "support".
Forgive my ignorance, but can you actually purchase ram that is "bad" and labeled as such? Also, anyone who wants "loads of RAM" is going to be in a position to need buy good RAM, because their business and research will depend on it.
With that said, if I can get a 512MB DIMM for $100 because 50MB of it is inusable, I'll buy it and install this hack, even though having any where near that much ram on my Linux box will not help me(it's little more than a mp3 player and web browser, most of my work is on my Mac).
"First of all, if a license prevents forking then it doesn't meet the open source guidelines"
This is a load of rubbish. Who's "open source guidelines" are you talking about? Are you talking about those self appointed commissioners of OSS, ESR & Stallman? Open source means just that, the source is available. The terms and use of that source do not necissarily have to be GPL. Sun is a company and is not interested in the politics of GPL vs. the world, and they should not be interested in such things. They should do what is best for Java. There may be legal issues with GPL'ing anything dealing with Java, since the GPL has yet to stand a day in court. They need to protect Java from the polluting hands of Microsoft, or Java dies just like Netscape did, just like HTML is doing, and just like XML will (which is a nice buzzword with little meaning to MS).
GPL'ing Java would be a mistake. The only way Sun could ever keep Java from being polluted like every other web standard MS has touched is by still maintaining the related Patents and Copyright.
Open Sourcing of Java is not magical pixie dust. It won't lead to anymore developement than it has now. Sun should release full OSS Java Compilers, along with detailed sample code and headers with the purchase of a $20 book. You need to get the hearts and minds of poor college students, then once they are in the industry you can move to screw Microsoft.
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2. The Current system works.
3. Cost of the new system.
4. The uptimes over at netcraft.
5. Everyone else is using Unix, it's the standard already.
6. Microsoft has a habit of giving you the perception that you must upgrade (both OS and Machine) to get nonstandard "features" which are usually broken in the first implementation, which in the end requires another upgrade.
7. Microsofts support costs are extraordinarily high compared to other venders. (see Unix is the standard).
8. I personally have NEVER seen a Unix system crash.
I'm sure there are more....
Broken. Runs Linux and BeOS fine (with exception that for some reason sound doesn't work). Using all WHQL drivers (certified my MS for WinME). No Windows just can't multi-task very well. Sure I could have stability if I only ran one application at a time....
On the other hand, my Mac has been running 24/7 since I installed OS X-PB on it (well over a month ago). It gets used directly at least 4-5 hours a day and indirectly via natd, routing to my PC, 24/7.
The PC, with a fresh install of WinME, I'm writing this one crashes at least three times a day. Oh yeah, it's only 1 months old and only has one third party application on it, Half-Life. Two, the largest uptime you can get with Windows is 47 days (yes, even up all the time without a use, it crashes).
Well, some people are actually afraid of using their computers, because Windows crashes so much. Some people prefer not to tinker with default settings because Windows is so prone to destroying itself. Most people never change any default settings.
If there is demand for a different project based of the Mozilla code that doesn't spam you every step of the way to go to Netscape.com, someone will compile it. Noone forced you to use Netscape, and if Netscape dies, oh well, Mozilla will live and someone else will take up the project.
And, of course, the "Geek Porn" link is ./ed. Freaks
I take issue with this.
1. I have personally seen a child (single mother, no health care, just off welfare) light up who I gave an old 6116CD PowerMac (601-60MhzPPC/72MB ram). I have also personally seen that same very child a year later install both LinuxPPC and MacOS 7.6 as a dual boot machine. He is now 11 years old and likes to hose his Linux Install by recompiling everything he can and tinkering with every config file he can find. Evenally, he will make a LOT of money doing that to make a computer work.
2. The government should not dictate what Operating System should people use. It's already hard enough to find a usable competitor to Windows, we don't need it any harder.
3. Even if the govt did have a vested interest in giving computers of a default OS to the poor, Win2000 is still nothing more than a niche OS compared to Win9X/ME, MacOS and in some markets Un*x based OS.
Also, what advantages does recycling a computer have over just giving it to a needy person (or something like Goodwill)? I actually own a Color Classic (its a collector's item) that is hooked up to my LAN (OS X PB running natd routing to ppp) and functions wonderfully for my kid to do email and web browsing. Seems like a waste to just dismantle a computer that still works.
There are those of us (*gasp*) who don't have the luxury of standardizing to IE. You see, there is more to this world than Windows. I use MacOS X PB (iCab) and BeOS (x86) at home. Neither one of which has IE on them. There is no "Winner" of the Browser wars. I don't use Microsoft products.
Depends on which machine you are talking about. The SGI I use at work does not. The BeOS Box at home doesn't. My Mac at home does (XML1).
It won't. End of story. If you want clear and concrete examples of this, just look at todays trends. How many Slashdotters primary platform has a web browser that can access Dialpad? How many Slashdotters can access Apple's iTools. As a Mac user, I have run into a number cases where sites provide a service, that I cannot access because they use IE (for Windows)specific coding. Errors as basic as storing links in a page as http://www.????.com/mypage\index.html are more common than you think. Broken tables are very common, ever since the advent of CSS (along with the advent of WYSIWYG HTML coding apps, which convert layers to tables) and it's improper implementation (which renders fine in Windows).
If today you can't go to Dialpad and make your free phone call with MacOS, BeOS, or with Netscape (any platform) AND have both Newbies and "Paid Coders" made basic mistakes because IE for Windows doesn't care, it is reasonable to expect that tommorrow, Office is NOT going to run "properly" either, much less the "services" other companies offer.
If you are going to bother paying money for registered domain names, because you are angry, you should be a bit more creative like this is. At least then, when they get the domain names back, their InterNIC lookup still looks funny.
A nice touch would be if we did to our lawyers what Douglas Adams reccomends to do with them.
"Open"ing a API does NOT mean GPL'ing the API. Just ask Stallman, he'll give you a lecture on what Open does and does not mean, before even talking to you about the GPL.
1. All the API's are not GPL'ed. If they were, anyone could develop without Indrema's help.
2. Even if it were using a non-X86 processor, they must release the source to the Kernel, thereby allowing hackers everywhere to remove the prebuilt OS, and install Linux on it just like they did with the iOpener.
Sounds to me, like they are going to have a very difficult time making money of this thing, even if it sells.
Firewire's marketshare could never be considered "tiny". Last I checked, every digital camcorder that is made has IEEE 1394 (aka Firewire).
I'm not about to broadcast my business over the airwaves, even if it does have Linux "support".
$293,478.26 Per Day
$12,228.26 Per Hour
$203.80 Per Minute
$3.40 Per Second
A) Let it die and spend the money on food
b) Bring it down safely so someone in Singapore doesn't have it fall on his house.
c) Spend the money to prevent your aging nuclear arsenel from blowing up in your face.
d) Spend enough money to buy each citizen a loaf of bread on keeping it alive.
Btzzz, wrong. The answer is D.
Nationality can make some nations that can't afford to feed it's own citizens do some really stupid things.
Tell that to the folks over at OpenBSD. I'm sure they will disagree right after showing you the source to their software.
With that said, if I can get a 512MB DIMM for $100 because 50MB of it is inusable, I'll buy it and install this hack, even though having any where near that much ram on my Linux box will not help me(it's little more than a mp3 player and web browser, most of my work is on my Mac).
This is a load of rubbish. Who's "open source guidelines" are you talking about? Are you talking about those self appointed commissioners of OSS, ESR & Stallman? Open source means just that, the source is available. The terms and use of that source do not necissarily have to be GPL. Sun is a company and is not interested in the politics of GPL vs. the world, and they should not be interested in such things. They should do what is best for Java. There may be legal issues with GPL'ing anything dealing with Java, since the GPL has yet to stand a day in court. They need to protect Java from the polluting hands of Microsoft, or Java dies just like Netscape did, just like HTML is doing, and just like XML will (which is a nice buzzword with little meaning to MS).
Open Sourcing of Java is not magical pixie dust. It won't lead to anymore developement than it has now. Sun should release full OSS Java Compilers, along with detailed sample code and headers with the purchase of a $20 book. You need to get the hearts and minds of poor college students, then once they are in the industry you can move to screw Microsoft.
ne1 know how this post appears twice in slashdot?