I love Apple because when you use Apple's products you come out as intelligent person. You aren't like a normal person who is only able to use Windows, but neither you are a nerd that uses Linux. With Apple's products you can really just go out with your iPad, sit down at the coffee shop and wait for girls to come talk to you.
Except cges said that you see these options when you sign up for Google+.....back when I used Facebook, once I learned those became options, through a news article possibly even on/., I then had to use Google to search for where to find them, and then go deep into the facebook settings, where the faint of heart dare not voyage, in order to adjust them. So yeah, having the options right there in your face when you sign up is so much greater than the Facebook alternative.
Yeah, because Settings -> Privacy Settings is so damn hard.
LinkedIn is for business and is very successful in that. Facebook is for common people, and Google+ apparently too.. but like with Google wave and Orkut they failed by publishing unfinished product.
Anyone that has signed for Google+ has seen the "i can be tracked all over the internet" checkbox. They have also heard that Google will be removing private profiles by end of the month. They have also seen that every profile will be by default indexed in Google.
As much as I also hate Zuckerberg, he is spot on. At least with Facebook I have control over what my information is made public. Most of the hate towards Facebook on slashdot seems to come from users with no practical use or just out of touch fear. You CAN change what information is public and what you want to give out. In fact you can make everything private if you want to, and Facebook doesn't allow Google to index that private information.
When you sign up to Google+, see these very information:
- Google can use your information to prodive targeted marketing across Google sites and every affiliated site (ie. millions of sites where AdWords is installed)
- Show photo geo location information in newly uploaded albums and photos.
- Show this profile publicly (enabled by default)
Yeah keep shouting that bullshit and never look at what do now. EA is the one major company that publishes titles like Mass Effect, Mirror's Edge and games from old Maxis, like SimCity, Sims and and all different kinds of games.
But obviously because they also release sports games, which are btw really favored those that do have interest in sports games, they're really shitty and do nothing good. Grow up already.
That is exactly true. We have many great laws here, but this one is one that is fucked up.. It basically does give the right for girls to complain about the sex several days later, just because they did not like it. It's a dangerous situation for every men.
same here. I'm a good coder, but who has TIME to audit every damned thing?
we do need auditing services. it should be non-profit and community/trust based. ie, like most opensource things.
I don't like a VENDOR being in control. I want it to be 'we the people' so to speak. that way its not political and not under some profit (or even government) directive, one way or another.
Most open source software/distros are made by for-profit organizations.. Now I dont say that is a bad thing, it's great to have support. But YOU need to learn some things.
Yes I have, in fact I have an account too. When you sign up they want you to give them permission to use your data anywhere in their advertising and analytics network. AdSense is on millions of websites. Their analytics code is even on more, here on slashdot too. Facebook might try to target marketing for you, but at least they only do that within Facebook. Google on the other will do that all over the internet and collect all kinds of personal statistics over the way. They have your name and all kinds of info where you browse and what you do. They also make your profile public by default and have said they will delete any Google profiles that are private by the end of month. Their definition of "privacy" is limiting what information your friends see.. not what they see, do or give out. And this seems to work really good for the slashdot crowd too.
Google did the same mistake here they've done several times earlier.. They published an unfinished product on a market that is already established and has the giant pain of trying to get users to move to their service. This included with the constant problems on Google+, not really offering anything new and even bigger privacy problems than with Facebook really isn't doing good. It was hot for a few days when coming out of beta.. Now I feel like it's going to die a slow death with no interest from casual people.
The problem are pure business guys who understand everything the MBA tought them, but don't have a true appreciation for the type if business they are running.
That is true for almost everyone working for a company. When you look for a job, you look for something that is somewhat related to your interests and knowledge. It's never your dream or exactly what you wanted to do.. but it's close enough. How do you know that the MBA's don't feel the same way? I think this kind of thinking is exactly the problem geeks have about other people - putting down their knowledge or interests.
Firefox's release schedule isn't any more "rapid" than it was before just because they now change major version number instead. It's just taking away the real problem and trying to be push your software to the version numbers that long term projects like IE and Opera have got over the years. Same problem with Chrome.
How are they a pain in the Butt of their neighbors?
You know, maybe it has something to do with the fact that US and other western countries dumped them on area and just said to the existing people that the land now belongs to israel?
Shoemakers most likely can run their business good.. but really, the usual geek.. no, and I'm one as well. Most of the geeks are truly hard to do business with or make witty comments about "how could this person possible know this thing?". There are exceptions, but geeks usually lack that kind of people skills. They also usually lack the knowledge of what people really need. Good example of this is the linux usability and GUI. It's far from good and mostly unfinished with most software because geeks just aren't interested in that kind of thing.
People work best together. You mix the best attributes from several different kinds of people. Hell, if you want a good geeky example look at different classes in multiplayer games. No one can do or master everything. That's why it's best to do what you know yourself and let other people handle the other parts.
It's double-standard really. Not just from Facebook, but every other US company from Microsoft to Google too.. When it's against United States/Israel it's "terrorism", when it's against China, Russia or other non-western countries it's "helping activists to spread their message and bring down oppressive governments". Most Americans seem to think the same way, but for others like me who are european both sides seem like oppressive governments with huge amount of problems and most interest mostly being fighting or having wars with each other (yes, Europe too has its history and we're certainly learned from that.. well, the nordic countries at least. And we were originally vikings)
Google is only as evil as WE allow them to be. Stop giving them business, and they won't be able to abuse their position. If you keep giving them business in spite of their near-monopoly, then don't complain when the obvious abuse happens.
Microsoft is only as evil as WE allow them to be. Stop giving them business, and they won't be able to abuse their position. If you keep giving them business in spite of their near-monopoly, then don't complain when the obvious abuse happens.
Google is also evilly leveraging their monopoly position to get marketshare in other areas. The very same thing that Microsoft did in the 90's. If you go to Google's homepage with IE the page looks really spammy, with buttons all over to make Google users homepage and pushing out Chrome and everything else. If you download anything from Google they also try to include Chrome with it, as well as pay other software makers and hardware manufacturers to bundle Chrome with their software. Shady tactics.
But like the summary and article note, that requires rewriting the whole codebase. They should had gone with Oracle database to begin with, but of course no one ever thinks about the expanding possibilities when they're starting out and just want something free, ie. MySQL.
Exactly. The idea behind having sex with other people is bad is put there by the religions disapproval of premarital sex. If you think about it, it really is no different from other activity. Now, religions did have a good reason to put that into peoples mind. After all, religion was pre-modern way to control people so that they didn't behave in destructing way. There are all the pregnancy and possible disease issues that needed to be controlled before. But in modern times they can be handled in other ways. But the religions already had put the mindset that sex == bad in to peoples mind. It's lifting off little by little, like people don't feel bad about premarital sex anymore. However, there still are those trust and faithful things people go about without proper reason. Just saying "faithful" is not a reasoning. Why is having sex with other people different from other activies, like for example mount climbing?
Problem isn't the sexual activity. Problem is the mindset that people have about it, teached by religions for hundreds of years. When people can finally put that past them and accept that, just like for them, sexual activity is a normal human function there is no need to worry about stuff like this. Then it would be the same as posting on your Facebook wall how good your breakfast was. People would just be bored about it.
Seriously, this "omg he's a shill" shit on/. needs to stop.
I'm not anti-open source, in fact I use CentOS and Fedora on my servers every day and I love its scripting abilities. That's where open source software really shines. At the same time I also understand (and acknowledge) that open source software has serious problems on desktop and especially with usability, because that is the truth. Of course we could all just lalalala, but doesn't that do more harm than bringing the fact out?
Pro Facebook? I've just pointed out that normal people like to use it and the fear mongering and "I just don't get it" attitude on slashdot is getting tiresome. For an intelligent community this large the sheer amount of ignorance is sometimes astonishing. I've also noted about the Google+ love and Facebook hate here on slashdot, objectively, as again many people here on slashdot don't seem to be able to see past the google-love mindset and that they both violate privacy and common good. The difference is that Google takes a soft, psychological way to do this and it seems to work for geeks as well extremely well. Like the previously noted "Do you want to improve your browsing and install Chrome" marketing with no "Yes" answer but a soft "Oh I guess that's ok" button.
It's not some shady slashdot marketing, it's opinions that sometimes differ from your own. Learn the difference.
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I love Apple because when you use Apple's products you come out as intelligent person. You aren't like a normal person who is only able to use Windows, but neither you are a nerd that uses Linux. With Apple's products you can really just go out with your iPad, sit down at the coffee shop and wait for girls to come talk to you.
Except cges said that you see these options when you sign up for Google+.....back when I used Facebook, once I learned those became options, through a news article possibly even on /., I then had to use Google to search for where to find them, and then go deep into the facebook settings, where the faint of heart dare not voyage, in order to adjust them. So yeah, having the options right there in your face when you sign up is so much greater than the Facebook alternative.
Yeah, because Settings -> Privacy Settings is so damn hard.
Correction: your profile will be public,but you can opt to only show your first and last name.
Oh wow. Such a relief.
LinkedIn is for business and is very successful in that. Facebook is for common people, and Google+ apparently too.. but like with Google wave and Orkut they failed by publishing unfinished product.
Anyone that has signed for Google+ has seen the "i can be tracked all over the internet" checkbox. They have also heard that Google will be removing private profiles by end of the month. They have also seen that every profile will be by default indexed in Google.
As much as I also hate Zuckerberg, he is spot on. At least with Facebook I have control over what my information is made public. Most of the hate towards Facebook on slashdot seems to come from users with no practical use or just out of touch fear. You CAN change what information is public and what you want to give out. In fact you can make everything private if you want to, and Facebook doesn't allow Google to index that private information.
When you sign up to Google+, see these very information:
- Google can use your information to prodive targeted marketing across Google sites and every affiliated site (ie. millions of sites where AdWords is installed)
- Show photo geo location information in newly uploaded albums and photos.
- Show this profile publicly (enabled by default)
Yeah keep shouting that bullshit and never look at what do now. EA is the one major company that publishes titles like Mass Effect, Mirror's Edge and games from old Maxis, like SimCity, Sims and and all different kinds of games.
But obviously because they also release sports games, which are btw really favored those that do have interest in sports games, they're really shitty and do nothing good. Grow up already.
That is exactly true. We have many great laws here, but this one is one that is fucked up.. It basically does give the right for girls to complain about the sex several days later, just because they did not like it. It's a dangerous situation for every men.
same here. I'm a good coder, but who has TIME to audit every damned thing?
we do need auditing services. it should be non-profit and community/trust based. ie, like most opensource things.
I don't like a VENDOR being in control. I want it to be 'we the people' so to speak. that way its not political and not under some profit (or even government) directive, one way or another.
Most open source software/distros are made by for-profit organizations.. Now I dont say that is a bad thing, it's great to have support. But YOU need to learn some things.
Yes I have, in fact I have an account too. When you sign up they want you to give them permission to use your data anywhere in their advertising and analytics network. AdSense is on millions of websites. Their analytics code is even on more, here on slashdot too. Facebook might try to target marketing for you, but at least they only do that within Facebook. Google on the other will do that all over the internet and collect all kinds of personal statistics over the way. They have your name and all kinds of info where you browse and what you do. They also make your profile public by default and have said they will delete any Google profiles that are private by the end of month. Their definition of "privacy" is limiting what information your friends see.. not what they see, do or give out. And this seems to work really good for the slashdot crowd too.
Google did the same mistake here they've done several times earlier.. They published an unfinished product on a market that is already established and has the giant pain of trying to get users to move to their service. This included with the constant problems on Google+, not really offering anything new and even bigger privacy problems than with Facebook really isn't doing good. It was hot for a few days when coming out of beta.. Now I feel like it's going to die a slow death with no interest from casual people.
The problem are pure business guys who understand everything the MBA tought them, but don't have a true appreciation for the type if business they are running.
That is true for almost everyone working for a company. When you look for a job, you look for something that is somewhat related to your interests and knowledge. It's never your dream or exactly what you wanted to do.. but it's close enough. How do you know that the MBA's don't feel the same way? I think this kind of thinking is exactly the problem geeks have about other people - putting down their knowledge or interests.
Firefox's release schedule isn't any more "rapid" than it was before just because they now change major version number instead. It's just taking away the real problem and trying to be push your software to the version numbers that long term projects like IE and Opera have got over the years. Same problem with Chrome.
How are they a pain in the Butt of their neighbors?
You know, maybe it has something to do with the fact that US and other western countries dumped them on area and just said to the existing people that the land now belongs to israel?
Shoemakers most likely can run their business good.. but really, the usual geek.. no, and I'm one as well. Most of the geeks are truly hard to do business with or make witty comments about "how could this person possible know this thing?". There are exceptions, but geeks usually lack that kind of people skills. They also usually lack the knowledge of what people really need. Good example of this is the linux usability and GUI. It's far from good and mostly unfinished with most software because geeks just aren't interested in that kind of thing.
People work best together. You mix the best attributes from several different kinds of people. Hell, if you want a good geeky example look at different classes in multiplayer games. No one can do or master everything. That's why it's best to do what you know yourself and let other people handle the other parts.
It's double-standard really. Not just from Facebook, but every other US company from Microsoft to Google too.. When it's against United States/Israel it's "terrorism", when it's against China, Russia or other non-western countries it's "helping activists to spread their message and bring down oppressive governments". Most Americans seem to think the same way, but for others like me who are european both sides seem like oppressive governments with huge amount of problems and most interest mostly being fighting or having wars with each other (yes, Europe too has its history and we're certainly learned from that.. well, the nordic countries at least. And we were originally vikings)
Google is only as evil as WE allow them to be. Stop giving them business, and they won't be able to abuse their position. If you keep giving them business in spite of their near-monopoly, then don't complain when the obvious abuse happens.
Microsoft is only as evil as WE allow them to be. Stop giving them business, and they won't be able to abuse their position. If you keep giving them business in spite of their near-monopoly, then don't complain when the obvious abuse happens.
Google is also evilly leveraging their monopoly position to get marketshare in other areas. The very same thing that Microsoft did in the 90's. If you go to Google's homepage with IE the page looks really spammy, with buttons all over to make Google users homepage and pushing out Chrome and everything else. If you download anything from Google they also try to include Chrome with it, as well as pay other software makers and hardware manufacturers to bundle Chrome with their software. Shady tactics.
But like the summary and article note, that requires rewriting the whole codebase. They should had gone with Oracle database to begin with, but of course no one ever thinks about the expanding possibilities when they're starting out and just want something free, ie. MySQL.
Their terms of services allow for this, yes.
I am actually married too. Other one in europe, other in asia.
Yes, the difference being that you're used to the other one, while you are not used to the other. Either way you support both financially.
Exactly. The idea behind having sex with other people is bad is put there by the religions disapproval of premarital sex. If you think about it, it really is no different from other activity. Now, religions did have a good reason to put that into peoples mind. After all, religion was pre-modern way to control people so that they didn't behave in destructing way. There are all the pregnancy and possible disease issues that needed to be controlled before. But in modern times they can be handled in other ways. But the religions already had put the mindset that sex == bad in to peoples mind. It's lifting off little by little, like people don't feel bad about premarital sex anymore. However, there still are those trust and faithful things people go about without proper reason. Just saying "faithful" is not a reasoning. Why is having sex with other people different from other activies, like for example mount climbing?
Problem isn't the sexual activity. Problem is the mindset that people have about it, teached by religions for hundreds of years. When people can finally put that past them and accept that, just like for them, sexual activity is a normal human function there is no need to worry about stuff like this. Then it would be the same as posting on your Facebook wall how good your breakfast was. People would just be bored about it.
Google Analytics is the largest offender in this. There are others, but they have their fingers everywhere. Here on slashdot too.
Seriously, this "omg he's a shill" shit on /. needs to stop.
I'm not anti-open source, in fact I use CentOS and Fedora on my servers every day and I love its scripting abilities. That's where open source software really shines. At the same time I also understand (and acknowledge) that open source software has serious problems on desktop and especially with usability, because that is the truth. Of course we could all just lalalala, but doesn't that do more harm than bringing the fact out?
Pro Facebook? I've just pointed out that normal people like to use it and the fear mongering and "I just don't get it" attitude on slashdot is getting tiresome. For an intelligent community this large the sheer amount of ignorance is sometimes astonishing. I've also noted about the Google+ love and Facebook hate here on slashdot, objectively, as again many people here on slashdot don't seem to be able to see past the google-love mindset and that they both violate privacy and common good. The difference is that Google takes a soft, psychological way to do this and it seems to work for geeks as well extremely well. Like the previously noted "Do you want to improve your browsing and install Chrome" marketing with no "Yes" answer but a soft "Oh I guess that's ok" button.
It's not some shady slashdot marketing, it's opinions that sometimes differ from your own. Learn the difference.