I know plenty of people who download and share music (a.k.a. "pirate") and who do not purchase any music at all, since they can download all they want without paying. Saying that there are no "lost sales" and that "it cannot be proved" is as naïve and as fraudulent as RIAAs claims are.
Very brave. Using an anonymous account posting someones private contact information. Very brave.
You should have posted his official contact information, where he can deal with the responses during office hours, instead of whenever random/.er calls.
Sure, flying cars à la The Fifth Element would be nice, but imagine the amount of accidents what would occur when people have to pay attention to people above and below as well! People cannot be bothered to turn their head a tiny bit when driving the highways as it is now.
In order to have flying cars, we would have to have the computer-assisted driving - with the aid of cars talking to each other - in place first.
Well they say that you can find everything on the Internets, and this proves it: never, ever, ever did I expect to find a person that would call the Temple of Doom trainwreck "Great"...
...and now with the lower price it's just bloated and unfriendly ?
Seriously though, I have used Lotus Notes in a global corporation which made extensive use of custom forms, applications, groups and the whole shebang in addition to relying heavily on the calendar for scheduling. It was a terribly counter-intuitive and unresponsive piece of software, and I'd rather pay for Exchange than having a Lotus Notes installation for free, despite being known as the anti-Microsoft advocate in my company.
Wally: "My proposed work plan for the year is to stress-test our product under severe network conditions. I will accomplish this by downloading large image files from the busiest servers on the net."
(PHB rejects suggestion) (later)
Wally: "I was this close to making it my job to download naughty pictures." Dilbert : "It's just as well; I would have had to kill you."
Below is the list of the copyrighted materials that the people behind The Pirate Bay are being sued for having helped being infringed upon.
At the time of the raid against TPB, most of these weren't even 2 years old I reckon. So even though I agree with the sentiment that "fifty year old media" probably should be available for free for the common good, I fail to see what your statement has to do with the pertaining issue.
Music:
Backyard Babies record "Stockholm Syndrome"
Joakim Thåströms record "Skebokvarnsv 209"
Sophi Solmans record "A decade of Dreams"
Emilia de Porets "A lifteime in a moment"
Advance Patrols record "Aposteln"
Amy Diamonds record "This is me now"
Håkan Hellströms record "Nåt gammalt, nått nytt, nått lånat, nåt blått"
Kents record "The hjärta & smärta EP"
Lena Philipssons record "Han jobbar i affär"
Max Peezays record "Discokommittén"
Per Gessles record "Son of a plummer"
Petters skivor "Mitt sjätte sinne", "Ronin" "Bananrepubliken" och "Petter"
Snooks record "Snook, svett och tårar"
Cardigans record "Don't blame your daughter"
Cornelis record "Till sist"
Robbie Williams "Intensive care"
Beatles record "Let it be"
Rasmus record "Hide from the sun"
James Blunts record "Back to bedlam"
Coldplays record "X&Y"
David Bowies record "Reality"
Movies:
"Den svaga punkten"
"Afrikanen"
"Pusher 3"
"Mastermind"
"Harry Potter & the goblet of fire"
"The Pink Panther"
"Prison Break, season I"
"Syriana"
"Walk the line"
Games:
"Diablo 2"
"World of warcraft-Invasion"
"F.E.A.R."
"Call of Duty 2"
While you seem to be under the impression that the prosecutor, police and whole judicial system are running errands for the recording industry, only 15 cases of copyright infringement via file sharing were investigated in Sweden last year. So bribes or no bribes, it's not exactly a systematic witch hunt.
Do you have any facts - not speculations - supporting that any prosecutor, judge or police took bribes from the recording industry or its lobby groups ? I very much doubt that.
This is a really interesting case, since the recording industry association and lobby (Ifpi and Antipiratbyrån) seems to have made their homework this time. This case will probably go all the way to the supreme court or even to the european court and both sides seem to be well prepared for this showdown.
The interesting argument brought up is that the defendants are in this to make money, and the prosecutor says he can prove elaborate plans to split the quite hefty incomes from advertising that the Pirate Bay is raking in. While linking to copyrighted material may be legal, making money from actively enabling people copyright infringement probably is harder to sneak by the courts.
So what's the big improvement of your example over, say
SELECT name, birth, death from person WHERE yada, yada, yada (or perhaps OUTER JOIN depending on the structure) AND birth = '1945-01-01' ORDER BY name
I really can't see that the query syntax will change anyone's life. I'm sure that data sets that are non-relational and 2D will be a great thing and that the query language for it won't.
Yeah stupid is stupid. But ridiculous overreaction is also stupid. Of course, I'm not in the military anymore and perhaps the place and situation called for extreme measures, but I'm betting that most people would suspect a laser pointer before suspecting a sniper.
Well, your statement is obviously true, but I think the point the GP makes is that libraries should be seen as a feature of dead-tree books. Sure, you can go to the library anytime and leave with a couple of books, but that's got nothing to do with owning an eBook reader. So the key point is that when you purchase an eBook reader, it's a brick (to use popular nomenclature here on/.) unless your purchase content, to some extent. Dead-tree books you can read one a day without paying more than you already do, if you don't mind going to the library.
I'm not sure about the problem, but I'm also using Download Statusbar, which is an extension that is unobtrusive and slick. When downloading something, it'll display a little progressbar in the statusbar, showing info you might be interested in (configurable). I've been using this extension for at least a couple of years now, very nice little thing.
> Or you visit piratebay and download the whole series in ebook format, then read it on your pocket reader. Cost: zero.
Well, first and foremost: the pocket reader has a non-zero cost. And I don't know about Discworld, but most books are not free (as in beer) to download legally, which makes the "Cost: zero" argument just as valid for dead tree books which you also can obtain illegally for "Cost: zero".
The best argument against books from dead trees is that they're, well, dead trees. But they look good in the bookshelf.
> How are they getting us to think that sharing culture means stealing? > > Sorry guys, but sharing is not illegal (even if you share using devilish Kazaa).
Sharing "culture" isn't stealing nor illegal, as long as the copyright owner of said culture is OK with it. Making a copy of music you've purchased - perhaps an audio tape - and giving it to a friend, is not OK with many copyright owners and in that case it is indeed illegal since it would constitute 'copyright infringement'.
So you're statement that "sharing is not illegal" is incorrect; it depends on the copyright of what is being shared.
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I know plenty of people who download and share music (a.k.a. "pirate") and who do not purchase any music at all, since they can download all they want without paying. Saying that there are no "lost sales" and that "it cannot be proved" is as naïve and as fraudulent as RIAAs claims are.
Very brave. Using an anonymous account posting someones private contact information. Very brave.
You should have posted his official contact information, where he can deal with the responses during office hours, instead of whenever random /.er calls.
You're supposed to put "n/t" in the subject of the post...not the body. You're doing it wrong!
Maybe you can take comfort in driving simulators, which are likely to be less stress-inducing than reality.
Sure, flying cars à la The Fifth Element would be nice, but imagine the amount of accidents what would occur when people have to pay attention to people above and below as well! People cannot be bothered to turn their head a tiny bit when driving the highways as it is now.
In order to have flying cars, we would have to have the computer-assisted driving - with the aid of cars talking to each other - in place first.
Well they say that you can find everything on the Internets, and this proves it: never, ever, ever did I expect to find a person that would call the Temple of Doom trainwreck "Great"...
It was one of the version 7 releases.
...and now with the lower price it's just bloated and unfriendly ?
Seriously though, I have used Lotus Notes in a global corporation which made extensive use of custom forms, applications, groups and the whole shebang in addition to relying heavily on the calendar for scheduling. It was a terribly counter-intuitive and unresponsive piece of software, and I'd rather pay for Exchange than having a Lotus Notes installation for free, despite being known as the anti-Microsoft advocate in my company.
Man, you can't even trust the trolls on /. anymoe... this post is a dupe!
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 28 2005, @11:49AM
> Me, I'd go with a real live mule instead for all applications you'd use this in.
I guess you've never heard of mules being stubborn...
Well, the doors shouldn't open unless you pay and the Rob-U-Cab drives to the police station.
There, I said it. Makes about as much sense as banning any demographic.
Wally: "My proposed work plan for the year is to stress-test our product under severe network conditions. I will accomplish this by downloading large image files from the busiest servers on the net."
(PHB rejects suggestion)
(later)
Wally: "I was this close to making it my job to download naughty pictures."
Dilbert : "It's just as well; I would have had to kill you."
( http://books.google.com/books?id=dCeVfKrZ-3MC&pg=PA77&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1&sig=xD5tmMhG1RcspLch8gCIJu8ro2U#PPA79,M1 )
Below is the list of the copyrighted materials that the people behind The Pirate Bay are being sued for having helped being infringed upon.
At the time of the raid against TPB, most of these weren't even 2 years old I reckon. So even though I agree with the sentiment that "fifty year old media" probably should be available for free for the common good, I fail to see what your statement has to do with the pertaining issue.
Music:
Backyard Babies record "Stockholm Syndrome"
Joakim Thåströms record "Skebokvarnsv 209"
Sophi Solmans record "A decade of Dreams"
Emilia de Porets "A lifteime in a moment"
Advance Patrols record "Aposteln"
Amy Diamonds record "This is me now"
Håkan Hellströms record "Nåt gammalt, nått nytt, nått lånat, nåt blått"
Kents record "The hjärta & smärta EP"
Lena Philipssons record "Han jobbar i affär"
Max Peezays record "Discokommittén"
Per Gessles record "Son of a plummer"
Petters skivor "Mitt sjätte sinne", "Ronin" "Bananrepubliken" och "Petter"
Snooks record "Snook, svett och tårar"
Cardigans record "Don't blame your daughter"
Cornelis record "Till sist"
Robbie Williams "Intensive care"
Beatles record "Let it be"
Rasmus record "Hide from the sun"
James Blunts record "Back to bedlam"
Coldplays record "X&Y"
David Bowies record "Reality"
Movies:
"Den svaga punkten"
"Afrikanen"
"Pusher 3"
"Mastermind"
"Harry Potter & the goblet of fire"
"The Pink Panther"
"Prison Break, season I"
"Syriana"
"Walk the line"
Games:
"Diablo 2"
"World of warcraft-Invasion"
"F.E.A.R."
"Call of Duty 2"
While you seem to be under the impression that the prosecutor, police and whole judicial system are running errands for the recording industry, only 15 cases of copyright infringement via file sharing were investigated in Sweden last year. So bribes or no bribes, it's not exactly a systematic witch hunt.
Do you have any facts - not speculations - supporting that any prosecutor, judge or police took bribes from the recording industry or its lobby groups ? I very much doubt that.
This is a really interesting case, since the recording industry association and lobby (Ifpi and Antipiratbyrån) seems to have made their homework this time. This case will probably go all the way to the supreme court or even to the european court and both sides seem to be well prepared for this showdown.
The interesting argument brought up is that the defendants are in this to make money, and the prosecutor says he can prove elaborate plans to split the quite hefty incomes from advertising that the Pirate Bay is raking in. While linking to copyrighted material may be legal, making money from actively enabling people copyright infringement probably is harder to sneak by the courts.
So what's the big improvement of your example over, say
SELECT name, birth, death from person
WHERE yada, yada, yada (or perhaps OUTER JOIN depending on the structure)
AND birth = '1945-01-01'
ORDER BY name
I really can't see that the query syntax will change anyone's life. I'm sure that data sets that are non-relational and 2D will be a great thing and that the query language for it won't.
> Can you imagine the outrage that the public would have towards the government and the airline if the plane lands safely with 300 corpses?
Before 9/11, yes. Now ? Not so, I believe. And practically it'd be hard to kill 300 people by hand or gun of you're alone.
Yeah stupid is stupid. But ridiculous overreaction is also stupid. Of course, I'm not in the military anymore and perhaps the place and situation called for extreme measures, but I'm betting that most people would suspect a laser pointer before suspecting a sniper.
Well, your statement is obviously true, but I think the point the GP makes is that libraries should be seen as a feature of dead-tree books. Sure, you can go to the library anytime and leave with a couple of books, but that's got nothing to do with owning an eBook reader. So the key point is that when you purchase an eBook reader, it's a brick (to use popular nomenclature here on /.) unless your purchase content, to some extent. Dead-tree books you can read one a day without paying more than you already do, if you don't mind going to the library.
I'm not sure about the problem, but I'm also using Download Statusbar, which is an extension that is unobtrusive and slick. When downloading something, it'll display a little progressbar in the statusbar, showing info you might be interested in (configurable). I've been using this extension for at least a couple of years now, very nice little thing.
...and remember to print the whole /. page with threshold -1.
...that didn't get a Xmas bonus ?
> Or you visit piratebay and download the whole series in ebook format, then read it on your pocket reader. Cost: zero.
Well, first and foremost: the pocket reader has a non-zero cost. And I don't know about Discworld, but most books are not free (as in beer) to download legally, which makes the "Cost: zero" argument just as valid for dead tree books which you also can obtain illegally for "Cost: zero".
The best argument against books from dead trees is that they're, well, dead trees. But they look good in the bookshelf.
> How are they getting us to think that sharing culture means stealing?
>
> Sorry guys, but sharing is not illegal (even if you share using devilish Kazaa).
Sharing "culture" isn't stealing nor illegal, as long as the copyright owner of said culture is OK with it. Making a copy of music you've purchased - perhaps an audio tape - and giving it to a friend, is not OK with many copyright owners and in that case it is indeed illegal since it would constitute 'copyright infringement'.
So you're statement that "sharing is not illegal" is incorrect; it depends on the copyright of what is being shared.