I'm sure if they caught someone entering your building with a bomb, or exiting the building with 'suspicious' materials - you'd be relieved. Put it in perspective and deal with it.
"unlawful to manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide or otherwise traffic in any interactive digital device that does not include and utilize certified security technologies that adhere to the security system standards."
Don't we have freedom to choose what goes into the products we make?
Bill of Rights, Amendment 14:
"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
I'm not sure this would stand up in a court of law.
Bigger footprint, with little data in memory, means more code is in memory. That's more code running.
What school of CS did you come out of? Just because code is in memory, functions and what-have you, doesn't mean they're all being called constantly.
What do I have to back this up?
I run W2K Server as my development box @ home (I work @ home), I have all sorts of memory hungry apps, services running including IIS, SQL Server or Oracle (1 of the two), etc - using 500mb+ of RAM. My memory usage when I'm idle is between 1% and 3%. Sure, if I'm USING all my apps simultaneously (which is nearly impossible), more code is running.
If you take a stripped down install - with IIS, 55mb (as I've got it set up). Take out IIS, you'll probably bring that usage # to under 50mb. Tweak it somewhat (which simply means turn off all non-essential services) and you can hit the 45mb mark.
But you can't criticize windows by starting with everything installed (IIS, ect.. ) and compare it to a stripped down linux workstation install..
So you're telling me the guy doesn't know how to configure Windows properly, but he knows how to setup a stripped down linux box (and yes, you can choose what options to turn on and off on setup, including IIS.) I haven't installed Linux in a while, but the options on install usually allow you to setup services, etc just like Windows does.
and I am willing to bet that is what is happening here.. Otherwise how can the mem usage be up to 171megs at boot?
I think the great thing about Linux is it's much easier to pick and choose what services you want and don't..
Is it that hard to click on Start->Programs->Admin Tools->Services & right click on the service you want to start/shutdown? It can be done from the command line as well I'm sure. And why would you want to load all the services on a Workstation? Just seems like a pissing contest to me...
I just installed Win2K Pro SP1 on my machine, no bells & whistles - as a workstation - 55MB of RAM usage after first boot. Installed OfficeXP, loaded all apps (including FrontPage) - all this added 50mb of RAM usage. More than Linux? Yes. 170MB? Hell No.
I haven't read the article, only Hemos' summary, but I have to say I don't agree. You can create your own high quality content for free with many of the tools out there, even get free hosting, etc. Decline in the user of browsers? I don't buy that either. WebTV still uses a browser of some sort - it has to - AFAIK anyway...
I am currently living in Northern California and seriousely considering moving to Buffalo (probably Orchard Park) to live/work. Just not sure if it is worth going. The housing costs there are just so much better than here!
Well, depends on your lifestyle of course. If you like lots of snow in the winter, good food, nice people - it's a great place to raise a family. But I grew up in Buffalo, just finished school - so I'm about ready to move out of this city. BTW - If you move to Orchard Park, plan on a long drive into work if you're working in the city - especially in the winter.
Has anyone considered starting an organization to inform/pressure politicians, spread the word - like the big boys of business do?
"But we don't have that kind of money/power."
You folks of all people should know as Open Source developers that you can take on anyone, with some hard/organized work. I guess maybe that's what the EFF is supposed to be. But I see the EFF being more of a protector of sorts, rather than an organization who's sole purpose in life is to pressure/inform politicians.
And can't you read? All he said was his observation, and that it took 5 hours of downloads to remedy the situation. If you've ever downloaded drivers for Thinkpad notebooks, you'd understand he's not joking around. He never waved his hands, and said that proves Linux is superior to Windows.
"interesting observations" are usually "isn't it ironic..." statements. They imply something without having to "wave your hands." Take a lit class and learn about interpretation.
5 Hours of downloading on a 56K - I'd believe it. How long does it take to download a Linux distro on a 56K?
By your logic, we should think you're a dumb ass, because you couldn't even get Red Hat to boot up. You weren't "knowledgeable" enough to fix the problem, right?
By your logic, both of you are jackasses for using a 56K line to download drivers for this thing;-)
Well...I for one can say that I'd rather work at an office. The day doesn't end at 5pm - I don't get to go home. I am home. I'm simply allowed to relax. It's weird.
Downsides:Human (face2face) interaction? Things you take for granted, I don't have anymore. Distractions. Poor high-speed internet access (Adelphia Power(Crap)Link) Dog barking next door. Neighbors ringing the doorbell...etc.
Upsides:I wake up as "close to" 8am as I can...so that can mean 9am...I just make sure to work 8 hours. Work pays for cell phone/cable modem...and the BIG one: No drive to/from work!
Overall - it has its advantages and disadvantages...depends on what kind of person you are...As my first/entry-level software development job - not my cup-o-tea. Especially when I'm using/programming in something I've never used before (Lotus Notes). Oh and how i found this job? I applied for a programming position...I found out at the interview it was a telecommuting job....
In order to use Windows on Xbox games, they'll have to license it from Microsoft. In order to use anything else, they'll probably have to get their game's loader digitally signed by Microsoft. Something similar was necessary on Dreamcast...
Which is exactly why I mentioned Publishers...They'd handle the licensing...I'm sure you could buy an "inexpensive" game for $20-$30 and still have enough to go around...
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I'm sure if they caught someone entering your building with a bomb, or exiting the building with 'suspicious' materials - you'd be relieved. Put it in perspective and deal with it.
That will never happen. Unless of course, World War 3 happens and we're all living in huts and fighting with sticks.
"unlawful to manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide or otherwise traffic in any interactive digital device that does not include and utilize certified security technologies that adhere to the security system standards."
Don't we have freedom to choose what goes into the products we make?
Bill of Rights, Amendment 14:
"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
I'm not sure this would stand up in a court of law.
...but so much more difficult to enforce it effectively...
"Good Luck, and remember - we're all counting on you." -Leslie Nielsen (Airplane!)
Bigger footprint, with little data in memory, means more code is in memory. That's more code running.
What school of CS did you come out of? Just because code is in memory, functions and what-have you, doesn't mean they're all being called constantly.
What do I have to back this up?
I run W2K Server as my development box @ home (I work @ home), I have all sorts of memory hungry apps, services running including IIS, SQL Server or Oracle (1 of the two), etc - using 500mb+ of RAM. My memory usage when I'm idle is between 1% and 3%. Sure, if I'm USING all my apps simultaneously (which is nearly impossible), more code is running.
here's your answer
Stupid fucking filters!
SQL Server isn't part of Windows. If you want to be fair then, install Oracle on the Linux box.
If you take a stripped down install - with IIS, 55mb (as I've got it set up). Take out IIS, you'll probably bring that usage # to under 50mb. Tweak it somewhat (which simply means turn off all non-essential services) and you can hit the 45mb mark.
But you can't criticize windows by starting with everything installed (IIS, ect.. ) and compare it to a stripped down linux workstation install..
So you're telling me the guy doesn't know how to configure Windows properly, but he knows how to setup a stripped down linux box (and yes, you can choose what options to turn on and off on setup, including IIS.) I haven't installed Linux in a while, but the options on install usually allow you to setup services, etc just like Windows does.
and I am willing to bet that is what is happening here.. Otherwise how can the mem usage be up to 171megs at boot?
The reviewers ignorance/bias is not an excuse.
Window 2000 demands a fast CPU (ideally starting with Pentium III) and a minimum of 256 MB of RAM.
This just isn't so for a workstation. I ran on my K6-2-300 and 96mb of RAM for quite a while with Win2K Pro.
And who the hell is this guy telling us what processor speed is ideal? If I'm joe schmoe that uses MS Word, IE, Excel, you don't need a PIII.
I think the great thing about Linux is it's much easier to pick and choose what services you want and don't..
Is it that hard to click on Start->Programs->Admin Tools->Services & right click on the service you want to start/shutdown? It can be done from the command line as well I'm sure. And why would you want to load all the services on a Workstation? Just seems like a pissing contest to me...
I just installed Win2K Pro SP1 on my machine, no bells & whistles - as a workstation - 55MB of RAM usage after first boot. Installed OfficeXP, loaded all apps (including FrontPage) - all this added 50mb of RAM usage. More than Linux? Yes. 170MB? Hell No.
Long live unbiased reviewers...
This isn't flamebait - it's the truth. Ask your next door neighbors. I promise you none of my neighbors know what encryption is....
72% of americans don't have any idea what encryption means, let alone a backdoor.
Maybe Slashdot is trying to lower its readerbase with this garbage.
I was standing between both towers on Sunday morning. I guess moving to NYC wouldn't be such a good idea.
define good tools. You mean 3d modellers?
Try Blender
Full-screen p0rn for everyone!
I haven't read the article, only Hemos' summary, but I have to say I don't agree. You can create your own high quality content for free with many of the tools out there, even get free hosting, etc. Decline in the user of browsers? I don't buy that either. WebTV still uses a browser of some sort - it has to - AFAIK anyway...
How do you like working/living in Buffalo, NY?
I am currently living in Northern California and seriousely considering moving to Buffalo (probably Orchard Park) to live/work. Just not sure if it is worth going. The housing costs there are just so much better than here!
Well, depends on your lifestyle of course. If you like lots of snow in the winter, good food, nice people - it's a great place to raise a family. But I grew up in Buffalo, just finished school - so I'm about ready to move out of this city. BTW - If you move to Orchard Park, plan on a long drive into work if you're working in the city - especially in the winter.
Has anyone considered starting an organization to inform/pressure politicians, spread the word - like the big boys of business do?
"But we don't have that kind of money/power."
You folks of all people should know as Open Source developers that you can take on anyone, with some hard/organized work. I guess maybe that's what the EFF is supposed to be. But I see the EFF being more of a protector of sorts, rather than an organization who's sole purpose in life is to pressure/inform politicians.
Anyone care to comment?
And can't you read? All he said was his observation, and that it took 5 hours of downloads to remedy the situation. If you've ever downloaded drivers for Thinkpad notebooks, you'd understand he's not joking around. He never waved his hands, and said that proves Linux is superior to Windows.
;-)
"interesting observations" are usually "isn't it ironic..." statements. They imply something without having to "wave your hands." Take a lit class and learn about interpretation.
5 Hours of downloading on a 56K - I'd believe it. How long does it take to download a Linux distro on a 56K?
By your logic, we should think you're a dumb ass, because you couldn't even get Red Hat to boot up. You weren't "knowledgeable" enough to fix the problem, right?
By your logic, both of you are jackasses for using a 56K line to download drivers for this thing
Well...I for one can say that I'd rather work at an office. The day doesn't end at 5pm - I don't get to go home. I am home. I'm simply allowed to relax. It's weird.
Downsides:Human (face2face) interaction? Things you take for granted, I don't have anymore. Distractions. Poor high-speed internet access (Adelphia Power(Crap)Link) Dog barking next door. Neighbors ringing the doorbell...etc.
Upsides:I wake up as "close to" 8am as I can...so that can mean 9am...I just make sure to work 8 hours. Work pays for cell phone/cable modem...and the BIG one: No drive to/from work!
Overall - it has its advantages and disadvantages...depends on what kind of person you are...As my first/entry-level software development job - not my cup-o-tea. Especially when I'm using/programming in something I've never used before (Lotus Notes). Oh and how i found this job? I applied for a programming position...I found out at the interview it was a telecommuting job....
Wow..talk about brain cells at work.
In order to use Windows on Xbox games, they'll have to license it from Microsoft. In order to use anything else, they'll probably have to get their game's loader digitally signed by Microsoft. Something similar was necessary on Dreamcast...
Which is exactly why I mentioned Publishers...They'd handle the licensing...I'm sure you could buy an "inexpensive" game for $20-$30 and still have enough to go around...