*snort* Yeah, I could actually see that happening here. The nearby law school (less then two blocks away) is trying to get a new building, only they're not doing so well at raising the money through the various means (fundraisers, getting the state to kick in some bucks, alumni donations). I could easily see them taking that path...
For colleges, this is especially true. What if the IP is for a computer in a classroom or lab? Oh look, suddenly, it's gone from 1 or 2 possible students using a dorm room computer, to potentially hundreds of students having access. (There are/were several computer labs at the university I went to which were open to anyone, and several others where you only needed to know the door code to get in, and they were remarkably simple to learn.)
Actually, I pay him because he knows what the hell he is doing and has had the training to do it. I wouldn't pay an auto mechanic to represent me in court, and I wouldn't pay a lawyer to fix my transmission. It has nothing to do with any sort of government enforced monopoly. It has to do with the fact that they are trained to perform the jobs I ask them to do.
Exactly. In a civil case, you're found liable or not liable by a preponderance of evidence. Basically, if, based on the evidence and testimony, the jury believes that it's more likely than not that you committed the act, you're liable. If they believe that it's more likely than not that you didn't commit the act, you're not liable.
Criminal cases use a stricter standard... beyond a reasonable doubt.
On the face of it, since the case against Desire2Learn was a patent suit, and that patent has been invalidated, then Desire2Learn shouldn't have to pay a dime of the judgement and can continue sales in the U.S.
Of course, since lawyers are going to be involved in this, who knows what will really happen.
Also, it's possible that the judge was aware of Operation Freakout, where, among other things, the CoS sent bomb threats to themselves, but made it appear as though an author, Paulette Cooper, was responsible for them. You see, she wrote a book that was critical of the Church of Scientology... so that made it "fair game" to ruin her life.
Please note, this is the third time I've had to refute this.... Those secret Vatican vaults full of documents? It's not required material. Using Catholic Christianity as an example, it is possible to gain a great understanding of the beliefs and tenets of that faith simply from the Bible. You don't need access to any secret materials held by the Vatican. Furthermore, the Catholic Church is not the sole distributor of the Bible.
In Scientology, the OT materials are trade secrets and copyrighted. To progress in the understanding of the beliefs and tenets of Scientology, you have to take courses that run many thousands of dollars in cost, and that are only available from one source, the Church of Scientology.
Yes, all religions have documents that are not readily and freely available to the laity. Show me another religion that protects theirs through civil law (trade secrets and copyrights) and that charges thousands of dollars in order to progress in understanding. (As a note, within walking distance of where I live, there are three churches that offer free Bible study courses, and that's not counting the nearby university organizations that do the same.)
But the laity in the Catholic church does not have to read those to understand the Catholic dogma. They aren't required texts in the same manner that the OT courses in the Church of Scientology are. And the CoS charges many thousands of dollars for those classes before you can officially learn about Xenu and so forth.
You miss my point. Yes, there may be books that only the Pope is allowed to read.
Those books are not "required" to be a good Catholic.
The Church of Scientology has a carefully organized series of classes that are required (and increasingly expensive) in order to progress through the ranks of the church laity (any person not a member of the clergy).
You have to spend many thousands of dollars in the Church of Scientology before you learn about Xenu or what thetans "really are".
How much money do you have to spend to read the Bible?
The Church of Scientology has tax-exempt status in the United States (which is interesting, as members of the CoS infiltrated the IRS, among other government agencies), which they use as "proof" that the U.S. government considers them a religion.
You are aware of Operation Freakout, are you not? Wherein, among other criminal activities, Scientologists basically sent bomb threats to themselves with circumstantial evidence incriminating an author, Paulette Cooper, who wrote a book which was critical of the Church of Scientology?
I'm not saying that any or all of the death threats that the Scientologists are receiving are bogus, but there is already an established history of them attempting to manipulate the courts against people critical of them.
Actually, I would say that the Church of Scientology is both less plausible of a religion then those you mentioned, and less of an actual religion (and more of a business).
Bypassing the obvious science fiction elements of Scientology, there is this simple fact.
You have to pay (out the nose) to be a member in good standing in the Church of Scientology. While other religions have practices of tithing and/or charities, they are not required in order to progress in the understanding of the faith.
In Scientology, you have to pay to take the courses that ultimately give you the Xenu/volcanic explosions/thetans story. You have to pay many thousands of dollars before you get access to this "knowledge".
Show me the secret books of the Bible or the Qu'ran that only the followers who have ponied up tens of thousands of dollars get to see. You can't. There aren't any such books.
IMAO, Scientology is at best, a business designed to empty the wallets of the gullible. At worst, it is a scam and an extortion campaign.
Actually, they have the status of "tax exempt non-profit organization", not church, according to the IRS. The CoS proclaims that this means the U.S. Government considers them a church, but that doesn't make it so.
What's amazing is that they got this status AFTER their acts of infiltrating the IRS and other government agencies (Operation Snow White), although they didn't get the tax exempt non-profit bit until years after the sentencing of LRH's wife and several others for that little bit of espionage.
No. Because, you see, if it's illegal, and they break the law, they can be punished for it.
If it's not illegal, but it's just shoddy work, they will continue to do whatever the RIAA requests with no real fear of legal ramifications.
The RIAA is not required to hire good investigators, but they are required to operate by the same code of laws that we do. Which, in this case, means their investigators have to be legally certified to operate in the jurisdictions that they are investigating in.
Oh yeah... this is the first Convention since superdelegates were added (in 1968) where they probably will play a significant role in the matter. It also might be the first brokered nomination since 1952, which resulted in Adlai Stevenson getting the Democratic nomination, and you can see how well that went for him....
I'm betting that there are some Democratic party leaders who really wish Obama had won Texas and Ohio yesterday, just so they wouldn't have had to deal with the possibility of the scenario you lay out.
Because having things stay just the same as they are now is just peachy, right?
Of course, since you seem to be one of those Ron Paul fanatics, there's probably no reasoning with you....
Ron wants to get rid of Roe vs. Wade and leave it up to the individual states as to whether to ban abortion. Nifty idea, from a "States rights" standpoint, except of course for those women who end up in states where it becomes illegal. Of course, they can always travel to a nearby state that doesn't make it illegal, assuming that there is one nearby enough for them.
Ron also favors withdrawal from NATO and the U.N. Because, you know, sticking our heads in the sand and going "lalalala, what rest of the world" works so damned well.
Yeah, he does oppose some things I wouldn't mind seeing gone, like the federal income tax, and most federal agencies, but here's the thing.
HE IS NOT ELECTABLE.
If Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain all dropped dead right now, Ron Paul would still not be electable.
It's a nice dream to think that he might be, but that's all it is. A dream.
About the only person less electable then Ron Paul is Ralph Nader.
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Microsoft as a loyal supporter of Lord Recluse, perhaps?
*nod* Can we get this story tagged with "damnlies", please?
*snort* Yeah, I could actually see that happening here. The nearby law school (less then two blocks away) is trying to get a new building, only they're not doing so well at raising the money through the various means (fundraisers, getting the state to kick in some bucks, alumni donations). I could easily see them taking that path...
For colleges, this is especially true. What if the IP is for a computer in a classroom or lab? Oh look, suddenly, it's gone from 1 or 2 possible students using a dorm room computer, to potentially hundreds of students having access. (There are/were several computer labs at the university I went to which were open to anyone, and several others where you only needed to know the door code to get in, and they were remarkably simple to learn.)
Actually, I pay him because he knows what the hell he is doing and has had the training to do it. I wouldn't pay an auto mechanic to represent me in court, and I wouldn't pay a lawyer to fix my transmission. It has nothing to do with any sort of government enforced monopoly. It has to do with the fact that they are trained to perform the jobs I ask them to do.
Exactly. In a civil case, you're found liable or not liable by a preponderance of evidence. Basically, if, based on the evidence and testimony, the jury believes that it's more likely than not that you committed the act, you're liable. If they believe that it's more likely than not that you didn't commit the act, you're not liable.
Criminal cases use a stricter standard... beyond a reasonable doubt.
On the face of it, since the case against Desire2Learn was a patent suit, and that patent has been invalidated, then Desire2Learn shouldn't have to pay a dime of the judgement and can continue sales in the U.S.
Of course, since lawyers are going to be involved in this, who knows what will really happen.
Well, we could say it's a lot like "Huckleberry Finn", only that wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.
He's never built a rocket either.
Also, it's possible that the judge was aware of Operation Freakout, where, among other things, the CoS sent bomb threats to themselves, but made it appear as though an author, Paulette Cooper, was responsible for them. You see, she wrote a book that was critical of the Church of Scientology... so that made it "fair game" to ruin her life.
As part of their documented history of harassing critics, may I refer you to Operation Freakout?
Please note, this is the third time I've had to refute this.... Those secret Vatican vaults full of documents? It's not required material. Using Catholic Christianity as an example, it is possible to gain a great understanding of the beliefs and tenets of that faith simply from the Bible. You don't need access to any secret materials held by the Vatican. Furthermore, the Catholic Church is not the sole distributor of the Bible.
In Scientology, the OT materials are trade secrets and copyrighted. To progress in the understanding of the beliefs and tenets of Scientology, you have to take courses that run many thousands of dollars in cost, and that are only available from one source, the Church of Scientology.
Yes, all religions have documents that are not readily and freely available to the laity. Show me another religion that protects theirs through civil law (trade secrets and copyrights) and that charges thousands of dollars in order to progress in understanding. (As a note, within walking distance of where I live, there are three churches that offer free Bible study courses, and that's not counting the nearby university organizations that do the same.)
But the laity in the Catholic church does not have to read those to understand the Catholic dogma. They aren't required texts in the same manner that the OT courses in the Church of Scientology are. And the CoS charges many thousands of dollars for those classes before you can officially learn about Xenu and so forth.
You miss my point. Yes, there may be books that only the Pope is allowed to read.
Those books are not "required" to be a good Catholic.
The Church of Scientology has a carefully organized series of classes that are required (and increasingly expensive) in order to progress through the ranks of the church laity (any person not a member of the clergy).
You have to spend many thousands of dollars in the Church of Scientology before you learn about Xenu or what thetans "really are".
How much money do you have to spend to read the Bible?
The Church of Scientology has tax-exempt status in the United States (which is interesting, as members of the CoS infiltrated the IRS, among other government agencies), which they use as "proof" that the U.S. government considers them a religion.
You are aware of Operation Freakout, are you not? Wherein, among other criminal activities, Scientologists basically sent bomb threats to themselves with circumstantial evidence incriminating an author, Paulette Cooper, who wrote a book which was critical of the Church of Scientology?
I'm not saying that any or all of the death threats that the Scientologists are receiving are bogus, but there is already an established history of them attempting to manipulate the courts against people critical of them.
Actually, I would say that the Church of Scientology is both less plausible of a religion then those you mentioned, and less of an actual religion (and more of a business).
Bypassing the obvious science fiction elements of Scientology, there is this simple fact.
You have to pay (out the nose) to be a member in good standing in the Church of Scientology. While other religions have practices of tithing and/or charities, they are not required in order to progress in the understanding of the faith.
In Scientology, you have to pay to take the courses that ultimately give you the Xenu/volcanic explosions/thetans story. You have to pay many thousands of dollars before you get access to this "knowledge".
Show me the secret books of the Bible or the Qu'ran that only the followers who have ponied up tens of thousands of dollars get to see. You can't. There aren't any such books.
IMAO, Scientology is at best, a business designed to empty the wallets of the gullible. At worst, it is a scam and an extortion campaign.
So use a pair of Groucho glasses and a Santa Claus beard.
Weird, I've heard Don Henley say the same thing.....
Actually, they have the status of "tax exempt non-profit organization", not church, according to the IRS. The CoS proclaims that this means the U.S. Government considers them a church, but that doesn't make it so.
What's amazing is that they got this status AFTER their acts of infiltrating the IRS and other government agencies (Operation Snow White), although they didn't get the tax exempt non-profit bit until years after the sentencing of LRH's wife and several others for that little bit of espionage.
No. Because, you see, if it's illegal, and they break the law, they can be punished for it.
If it's not illegal, but it's just shoddy work, they will continue to do whatever the RIAA requests with no real fear of legal ramifications.
The RIAA is not required to hire good investigators, but they are required to operate by the same code of laws that we do. Which, in this case, means their investigators have to be legally certified to operate in the jurisdictions that they are investigating in.
Sorry to insert reality into your delusions, but a Republican nominee for President only needs 1191 delegates. McCain has at least 1260.
And Huckabee dropped out. There's no one left in the race except McCain and Ron Paul, and Paul has, at best 21 delegates. (CNN says 21, RCP says 14.)
McCain, like him or not, is going to be the Republican presidential candidate. (Unless, you know, he dies between now and then.)
A bit yes. But considering that he's not a lawyer.....
Oh yeah... this is the first Convention since superdelegates were added (in 1968) where they probably will play a significant role in the matter. It also might be the first brokered nomination since 1952, which resulted in Adlai Stevenson getting the Democratic nomination, and you can see how well that went for him....
I'm betting that there are some Democratic party leaders who really wish Obama had won Texas and Ohio yesterday, just so they wouldn't have had to deal with the possibility of the scenario you lay out.
Because having things stay just the same as they are now is just peachy, right?
Of course, since you seem to be one of those Ron Paul fanatics, there's probably no reasoning with you....
Ron wants to get rid of Roe vs. Wade and leave it up to the individual states as to whether to ban abortion. Nifty idea, from a "States rights" standpoint, except of course for those women who end up in states where it becomes illegal. Of course, they can always travel to a nearby state that doesn't make it illegal, assuming that there is one nearby enough for them.
Ron also favors withdrawal from NATO and the U.N. Because, you know, sticking our heads in the sand and going "lalalala, what rest of the world" works so damned well.
Yeah, he does oppose some things I wouldn't mind seeing gone, like the federal income tax, and most federal agencies, but here's the thing.
HE IS NOT ELECTABLE.
If Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain all dropped dead right now, Ron Paul would still not be electable.
It's a nice dream to think that he might be, but that's all it is. A dream.
About the only person less electable then Ron Paul is Ralph Nader.