Please use the torrent file for maximized download. The servers are a bit crowded at the moment. There are several servers in New York, London and in Finland servicing the website and the direct downloads. However those servers typically have only a FE-network interface (100mbps) so it gets pretty crowded in an instant.
However right now at the time of this post it's almost midnight in local Finnish time (EET) so downloading from the Finnish servers might be the fastest direct download link ATM. Lots of fins are either partying/boozing or sleeping at the moment, or have downloaded the movie earlier today.
The company hosting the trailer, Magenta, is no small webhosting company. They run extremely large consumer sites for Coca-cola, Habbo Hotel, McDonalds, BMG Music group and the like. I think Habbo hotel alone has over 10 million registered users. So the download speeds oughta be atleast decent. Let's see how the bandwidth is doing once the actual movie comes out - it's quite a different thing to download a DVDRip lenght file tens of thousands of times over than a 25MB trailer..
A fear of being too late in misplaced in this case. When it comes to issues like legistation it is never too late. Time and again throughout history different nations have had very opressive laws, often strictly against public opinion. And each time in the end they have been changed or made null and void. Or do you see the laws of the third reich still in power in Germany? Laws as biased as the DMCA simply cannot last, arguments like "we fear there is too much momentum, and that we are late" only serve the purpose of drawing more attention to the cause and bringing about the change faster, which is good in this case.
Interesting that they are hosting the convention with technology from Blaxxun Interactive, a company that went bust couple of months ago. Wonder how viable are their plans to get 100,000 people online based on a dead non-supported proprietary technolgy..
This is from Blaxxun.com site : "blaxxun interactive AG began insolvency proceedings on 1 March 2002. All options for preserving some part of the company or for exploiting the blaxxun software are currently being considered."
Blaxxun is based on the old VRML Java crap, no way I'm going to believe it could support 100,000 online users at the same time. To my understanding there are far better technologies to do that out there, www.taikatech.com, www.zona.net and www.rebelarts.com to name a few.
The trouble with open source software is that laws don't keep up to the pace. This all results in awful mess where we have companies making money, and enjoying some IP etc protection, and then an open system without much rules offering them "unfair" competition etc. Microsoft lawyers must be quite terrified of what open source could do to their business.
You have to remember that business is based on demand. Misery and suffering creates a need to get out of it - thus selling food for the hungry or medicine for the sick is a business. Microsoft is in the business of making a piece of stupid hardware to actually do something useful. And now they see someone offering better solutions and better relief to that same problem for free. How are they going to keep up? how should the legistlation react to this?.. there is no easy answer.
Open source also generates a new set of legal problems. There are companies like Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com/) for example who are developing a proprietary product, and have made the following statement: if our company ever goes belly up - the whole software will be released open source..
What many don't immediately think of is this: doing this actually violates the rights of creditors. How would you feel if you own a share in some software company, the company goes bust, and the only thing worth money is released in open source - thus effectively destroying all the changes of you ever seeing your money again...
Open source software is such a huge headache for lawyers and law makers. I am laughing out loud, it will be very interesting to see where we end up after 10 years or so.. I'm guessing that at somet point somebody has to draw a line and make major descisions.. which will undoubtly change the software business alltogether.
It seems that Mickie-soft is moving more and more towards claiming everything they make and even touch their own IPR, 100%. Then the M$ idea seems to be charging all those who even view their stuff over and over again. With projects like Hailstorm Micky-mousie is starting to have alot in common with media companies, with those who own content, and with those who lobbyed the DMCA through.
We are not far from seeing each piece of content AND software digitally encrypted with user's key, so that only the user can receive / do something with the software/content. M$ and media companies are constantly trying to push this kind of control mechanisms through, soon they will be billing me from the adds they have places on roadsides.. just because I happen to look at them. Maybe I am soon required by law to wear some sort of goggles that track my eyemotions, and if I even accidentally look at a piece of content I will have to pay.. over and over again.
Yes yes.. the question is what we are going to do about it? well there is one thing: we are the customers. Businesses operate solely based on satisfying the needs of the customer. If you speak against companies, but still buy their stuff -> no good. If you don't speak and don't buy their stuff -> better, but not that good either. But if you don't buy their stuff, and then explain in great detail to them why you are not buying it -> then it starts to be the kind of feedback the companies start to take seriously.
Perhaps we, the customers, sometimes need to remind media companies and M$ of what we want and how we want it. We have the power to start demanding - and keep demanding. Until they deliver!
I don't personally know the history of this case here... but if they say that because of this guy Australia has never had a cybersquatting problem.. that is just great!
I'v had more than a few personal encounters with cybersquatters in the past, up to a level that I'v had to handle the issue with WIPO.
Judging from the news I'v been hearing about Australian gov. attitude towards the Internet.. this would be 'the final nail to the coffin'.. To me it seems quite clear: Internet has lived past the age where "information can be truly free" what ever that means. Usually it has something to do with privacy and personal independence. I am really hoping that one of these p2p/alike new communication systems out there will re-establish parts of the original Internet spirit: let the people be independent and in control! .km
..Remember that the prime function of any corporation/business is to create wealth for its owners.
Each one of those "evil" corporations slashdot is so eager to condemn is actually owned by regular people, and they are creating wealth for average jacks and joes.
This also brings up another point of view: if I own a piece from a large corporation, that really do mean that I own it - it is my personal property, and I alone should be the judge of what I do with the things I own.
I you blame corporations, you blame their owners, cause the corps do what the owners want them to do - and that usually is creating huge piles of green, with what ever they got.
Damn.. this is bad news indeed. I just met the guy in Cannes couple of months ago, while he appeared at the GSM World Congress.
He did a nice joke about the bad mobile phone coverage in the US:
Apparently the island in Fidji where they filmed the movie "Castaway" with Tom Hanks, has a perfect cell phone network coverage. Why? Tom Hanks had that put into his movie contract, any place he films in has to have a perfect mobile coverage. Adams made a joke about having Hanks do his next movie as a road movie on the infamous 101 in Califormia;-)
Respice post te, mortalem te esse memento.
Look around you, remember that you are mortal.
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"They said they would release their code if they went under... "
Releasing code of any proprierity software is not quite that easy. I don't know how the US legislation handles these kind of matters, but atleast the EU laws usually don't allow this.
The simple reason being that it would violate the rights of any creditors etc instances to whom the bankrupt company owns money/anything.
Think about it your self, how happy would you be if you invest in a company that develops proprierity software. Then the company goes belly-up.. At this point the investors and owners are thinking "well atleast we can get a penny or two of our money back by selling that proprierity technology that we have".. but then the company releases the whole thing open source..
The end result being lots of angry owners/investors and a nice legal battle..
Few companies have made similar promises, I think they should really consider what they are actually planning to do..
Naturally it is always better to do the whole thing as open source or GPL from the beginning!;-)
> "These secure methods have been developed years ago, and are still not being used on a wide scale."
Yeah sure - in the glorious US of A. You again seem to forget that there is a place called "the rest of the world" which is technologically more advanced and actually DOES use these highly secure technologies.
I can do 1024b RSA signatures from all of my various cell phones (or sigs with longer keys for that matter, if needed). And I can pay for things with'em too. All the major banks here use secure payment methods instead of lowsy age old credit cards. I don't have to use one single unsecure method for paying anymore if I don't feel like it.
All I'm saying is that: it's really up to you. If you want things to change in the US, then bloody change them! it's not any more harder than that. YOU are the customer and it's your right to demand things. Start demanding, and keep demanding until they deliver.
VRLM has never been in a competitive level, IMHO. And it seems so very very many companies and other instances got it all backwards - or perhaps forgot something on the way. They forgot that the right way to design a system or a product is to make it work with minimal technology. If the thing requires 3D or requires VRML then it is pretty much doomed from the beginning.
All the buzz around "VR" and 3D in any online realted issue seems to have lost its track. Don't people use common sense anymore? is it not the purpose of products and applications to fill out some function or full fill some need of their users? Too much technies have fallen blind to common sense, which after all is the only solid thing that works behind the products and new innovations.
I am glad that there already seems to be a few companies and other instances who are starting to realize the big picture, and focusing on getting the right things done.
All im saying: VRLM or any online 3D does not work unless there is a solid model based on real need beneath it. As if the technology alone would enable instast success..k
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Please use the torrent file for maximized download. The servers are a bit crowded at the moment. There are several servers in New York, London and in Finland servicing the website and the direct downloads. However those servers typically have only a FE-network interface (100mbps) so it gets pretty crowded in an instant.
;-)
However right now at the time of this post it's almost midnight in local Finnish time (EET) so downloading from the Finnish servers might be the fastest direct download link ATM. Lots of fins are either partying/boozing or sleeping at the moment, or have downloaded the movie earlier today.
The Finnish servers are:
http://www-fi.starwreck.com/
http://www-fi2.starwreck.com/
However it is strongly adviced that you use bittorrent - if you want to get the movie a bit faster
The company hosting the trailer, Magenta, is no small webhosting company. They run extremely large consumer sites for Coca-cola, Habbo Hotel, McDonalds, BMG Music group and the like. I think Habbo hotel alone has over 10 million registered users. So the download speeds oughta be atleast decent. Let's see how the bandwidth is doing once the actual movie comes out - it's quite a different thing to download a DVDRip lenght file tens of thousands of times over than a 25MB trailer..
A fear of being too late in misplaced in this case. When it comes to issues like legistation it is never too late. Time and again throughout history different nations have had very opressive laws, often strictly against public opinion. And each time in the end they have been changed or made null and void. Or do you see the laws of the third reich still in power in Germany? Laws as biased as the DMCA simply cannot last, arguments like "we fear there is too much momentum, and that we are late" only serve the purpose of drawing more attention to the cause and bringing about the change faster, which is good in this case.
Interesting that they are hosting the convention with technology from Blaxxun Interactive, a company that went bust couple of months ago. Wonder how viable are their plans to get 100,000 people online based on a dead non-supported proprietary technolgy..
This is from Blaxxun.com site : "blaxxun interactive AG began insolvency proceedings on 1 March 2002. All options for preserving some part of the company or for exploiting the blaxxun software are currently being considered."
Blaxxun is based on the old VRML Java crap, no way I'm going to believe it could support 100,000 online users at the same time. To my understanding there are far better technologies to do that out there, www.taikatech.com, www.zona.net and www.rebelarts.com to name a few.
You have to remember that business is based on demand. Misery and suffering creates a need to get out of it - thus selling food for the hungry or medicine for the sick is a business. Microsoft is in the business of making a piece of stupid hardware to actually do something useful. And now they see someone offering better solutions and better relief to that same problem for free. How are they going to keep up? how should the legistlation react to this?.. there is no easy answer.
Open source also generates a new set of legal problems. There are companies like Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com/) for example who are developing a proprietary product, and have made the following statement: if our company ever goes belly up - the whole software will be released open source..
What many don't immediately think of is this: doing this actually violates the rights of creditors. How would you feel if you own a share in some software company, the company goes bust, and the only thing worth money is released in open source - thus effectively destroying all the changes of you ever seeing your money again...
Open source software is such a huge headache for lawyers and law makers. I am laughing out loud, it will be very interesting to see where we end up after 10 years or so.. I'm guessing that at somet point somebody has to draw a line and make major descisions.. which will undoubtly change the software business alltogether.
It seems that Mickie-soft is moving more and more towards claiming everything they make and even touch their own IPR, 100%. Then the M$ idea seems to be charging all those who even view their stuff over and over again. With projects like Hailstorm Micky-mousie is starting to have alot in common with media companies, with those who own content, and with those who lobbyed the DMCA through.
We are not far from seeing each piece of content AND software digitally encrypted with user's key, so that only the user can receive / do something with the software/content. M$ and media companies are constantly trying to push this kind of control mechanisms through, soon they will be billing me from the adds they have places on roadsides.. just because I happen to look at them. Maybe I am soon required by law to wear some sort of goggles that track my eyemotions, and if I even accidentally look at a piece of content I will have to pay.. over and over again.
Yes yes.. the question is what we are going to do about it? well there is one thing: we are the customers. Businesses operate solely based on satisfying the needs of the customer. If you speak against companies, but still buy their stuff -> no good. If you don't speak and don't buy their stuff -> better, but not that good either. But if you don't buy their stuff, and then explain in great detail to them why you are not buying it -> then it starts to be the kind of feedback the companies start to take seriously.
Perhaps we, the customers, sometimes need to remind media companies and M$ of what we want and how we want it. We have the power to start demanding - and keep demanding. Until they deliver!
.km
I don't personally know the history of this case here... but if they say that because of this guy Australia has never had a cybersquatting problem.. that is just great!
I'v had more than a few personal encounters with cybersquatters in the past, up to a level that I'v had to handle the issue with WIPO.
Judging from the news I'v been hearing about Australian gov. attitude towards the Internet.. this would be 'the final nail to the coffin'..
To me it seems quite clear: Internet has lived past the age where "information can be truly free" what ever that means. Usually it has something to do with privacy and personal independence. I am really hoping that one of these p2p/alike new communication systems out there will re-establish parts of the original Internet spirit: let the people be independent and in control!
.km
Each one of those "evil" corporations slashdot is so eager to condemn is actually owned by regular people, and they are creating wealth for average jacks and joes.
This also brings up another point of view: if I own a piece from a large corporation, that really do mean that I own it - it is my personal property, and I alone should be the judge of what I do with the things I own.
I you blame corporations, you blame their owners, cause the corps do what the owners want them to do - and that usually is creating huge piles of green, with what ever they got.
-km
He did a nice joke about the bad mobile phone coverage in the US:
Apparently the island in Fidji where they filmed the movie "Castaway" with Tom Hanks, has a perfect cell phone network coverage. Why? Tom Hanks had that put into his movie contract, any place he films in has to have a perfect mobile coverage. Adams made a joke about having Hanks do his next movie as a road movie on the infamous 101 in Califormia
Respice post te, mortalem te esse memento.
Look around you, remember that you are mortal.
Releasing code of any proprierity software is not quite that easy. I don't know how the US legislation handles these kind of matters, but atleast the EU laws usually don't allow this.
The simple reason being that it would violate the rights of any creditors etc instances to whom the bankrupt company owns money/anything.
Think about it your self, how happy would you be if you invest in a company that develops proprierity software. Then the company goes belly-up.. At this point the investors and owners are thinking "well atleast we can get a penny or two of our money back by selling that proprierity technology that we have".. but then the company releases the whole thing open source..
The end result being lots of angry owners/investors and a nice legal battle..
Few companies have made similar promises, I think they should really consider what they are actually planning to do..
Naturally it is always better to do the whole thing as open source or GPL from the beginning! ;-)
Yeah sure - in the glorious US of A. You again seem to forget that there is a place called "the rest of the world" which is technologically more advanced and actually DOES use these highly secure technologies.
I can do 1024b RSA signatures from all of my various cell phones (or sigs with longer keys for that matter, if needed). And I can pay for things with'em too. All the major banks here use secure payment methods instead of lowsy age old credit cards. I don't have to use one single unsecure method for paying anymore if I don't feel like it.
All I'm saying is that: it's really up to you. If you want things to change in the US, then bloody change them! it's not any more harder than that. YOU are the customer and it's your right to demand things. Start demanding, and keep demanding until they deliver.
VRLM has never been in a competitive level, IMHO. And it seems so very very many companies and other instances got it all backwards - or perhaps forgot something on the way. They forgot that the right way to design a system or a product is to make it work with minimal technology. If the thing requires 3D or requires VRML then it is pretty much doomed from the beginning. All the buzz around "VR" and 3D in any online realted issue seems to have lost its track. Don't people use common sense anymore? is it not the purpose of products and applications to fill out some function or full fill some need of their users? Too much technies have fallen blind to common sense, which after all is the only solid thing that works behind the products and new innovations. I am glad that there already seems to be a few companies and other instances who are starting to realize the big picture, and focusing on getting the right things done. All im saying: VRLM or any online 3D does not work unless there is a solid model based on real need beneath it. As if the technology alone would enable instast success. .k