Slashdot Mirror
Techies and Trekkies Unite!
emmetropia writes: "Startrek.com has announced that there is going going to be an Online Convention in early August. Every attendee will be able to make themselves look like any of your favorite ST species, Borg, Klingon, Vulcan, Terran, Ferengi, etc etc. The servers for the event are supposed to be able to handle up to 100,000 users, which would mean a rather large convention, let's just hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as Final Fantasy. With full 3D conventions here now, can a holodeck really be that far off?"
I have a holodeck already! I did it with a beowolf cluster of dreamcasts...
For years to approximate geeky conversations between Spock and Kirk, I've been using this web site!
---
Destiny-land.
The happiest blog on earth.
Sounds suspiciously like a chat room program with a clunky Flash interface. Woo.
Ohh they were fun back in err what 97 :)
Wonder round a badly made 3D world, where people would try to talk to you, but you all really longed for a chain saw...
Hmm.... shame it costs to play with, that would be fun.
Wow, I should not post when knackered.
Are any of the "real" characters going to be there virtually? And, if so, how does one know whether one is chatting up the real Beverley or an imposter?
mysql> select * from human where (human.trekkie=1 and human.techie=0);
Empty set (0.00 sec)
Oddly enough, treckies chances of getting laid at this convention are identical to those of getting laid at a real convention.
UGH! No Linux/Mac interface. Geesh, they should of just used the Quake 2 engine instead. You know that was portable.
--
# Canmephians for a better Linux Kernel
$Stalag99{"URL"}="http://stalag99.net";
How long before someone 0wns the convention server system?
"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." -- Dark Helmet
Rather than going to a traditional sci-fi convention where I would fail to get laid, I can attend an online convention and fail to get cybersex. Computers really have improved my life...
One of my favorite ways to have fun. I dress up in my Jedi robes with my lightsaber, and crash the real convetions. Had a friend who would dress up as Solo too. Damn the trekkies would go apeshit. But then we took it too far, and my friend started in on someone dressed up as Scotty about how the Falcon could outrun that ugly looking enterprise... The second largest ST convetion riot in North America.
Ouch.
lmao 2 da rofl, lololo lol you fucvking fagd!
lmao @ yall bunch of llama nerd gimpz, lol rfol Get a fuqing Life Dudes, rOFL! omg i cant sotp laughin g WOW LETS ALL JERk off with my penis in yotu butt rofl lol.... hehe bye lol, fuking phagZ
The trekkies already know they are virgins, do they have to shove the 'V' word right in their faces?
sig's not here
It's like an imaginary convention except you're not the only loser there.
I have been pwned because my
Finally, I can look like a Terran!
Hey, can I go as Lone Star?
I'm the Devil the Windows users warned you about.
Was it just strange coincidence that I have caught this thread at 7 of 9 comments? I think not. =)
And what about the the ability to handle 100,000 clients, is that really going to be enough? I mean, there are a lot of admitted trekkies in the world, but there are several more out there in the 'closet' which would see something this as a welcomed invite to attend a trekkie convention whereas they wouldn't have in RealLife(tm).
======
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. - Euripides
What's worse? Not getting cybersex or finding out you just did it with some guy pretending to be a Ferengi female. *shudder*
With full 3D conventions here now, can a holodeck really be that far off?
Yes.
Next question?
That out of all the space going races in the star trek universe, the race the American government most resembles is the Ferengi....
M0571y H@rml355.
Online convention
One more reason Star Trek fans
Will never get laid
Welcome to the future, ladies and gentlemen.
"To make apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." -Carl Sagan
I'am a techy, a geek, a nerd, call it what you want. And, I hate Startrek ! I really do hate Startrek. I mean, that Startrek stuff is so, so, ...
Arfff, there's no word for that boring sclerotic half-assed sit-com, full of wooden third rate actors, stupid plots, 3 hours long "meaningful glances", you know, all those crappy sitcom gimmicks. May be Startrek is not the worst of the sitcom lot, but it's still a damn bloody lousy sitcom. If you want SF, read Frank Herbert, Dan Simmons, etc. I don't know. Do something ! But not Startrek, please, not Startrek.
Startrek is dumb and life is too short to do dumb things. So please, stop slapping Startrek and Geekdom together, please, please, please....
SNS Not Sig
With full 3D conventions here now, can a holodeck really be that far off?
Yes.
Comment removed based on user account deletion
Comment removed based on user account deletion
A holodeck is quite different from an online conference. Even if it is in 3D. I think we're a LONG way from having a holodeck like environment. We probably won't see such a thing in our lifetimes, or for that matter, our kids lifetimes.
Brian
--
Search for a New Web Host
--
As much as I like the term terran, they always refer to earthlings as "humans" Star Trek.
Anyone else notice that this ST convention is going to be on the same three days (August 2nd - 4th) in Las Vegas as Defcon X is going to be? Drunk techies and trekies in Las Vegas = biggest, nerdiest party ever.
sigs are dumb.
At a virtual con, when I can be downloading porn?
Can't accept the obvious fact of inferiority, can you woman?
I have been pwned because my
Whoa! It's the fake Los Alamos PhD troll. I laughed when someone pointed out in a previous comment of yours, that you didn't even know which state Los Alamos was in.
But anyway, back on topic. Star Trek was incredibly liberal for its day, showing on a primetime show, russians, asians, blacks and women all working together for a common (mostly) peaceful cause. So even if you are full of bullshit, it was a nice troll.
Maybe if this level of trolling is too much for you, you can practice on something easier, like page-widening.
Hee hee. You're so cute when you get like that!
I have been pwned because my
As an avid fan, I was interested and decided to sign up. I happened to mistakingly clicked on their privacy policy and I found this buried in the bottom:
VCLLC may also sell, transfer or otherwise disclose user information, including PII, in connection with a corporate merger, consolidation, the sale of substantially all assets, or other fundamental corporate change.
So, if they all of sudden become a porn spewing outfit, they have all those email addys and what they call "PII" (personally identifiable information -- like your address and phone number)at their disposal.
Stupid internet.
Give me a Vulcan any day. Superior strength, stamina and physiological control. The sexy pointed ears are just the creme^H^Ham on the pudding baby.
C'mon, especially those who've attended a con Marriott Hunt Valley in Cockeysville, MD, a Virtual Con can't supply a comfortable seat at the Paddock Bar and the soothing waters of a well-attended jacuzzi.
;P).
And that's probably the best thing about a con -- the afterhours partying and socializing (and, ahem, other activities between/among consenting adults
Mod Karma -1: I sed bad wurds. If I cep my mouf shut, I wud be at riyses.
In fact, all leadership roles on Star Trek, old and new, are white males.
I'm not even a huge star trek fan and even I know the captin in Voyager was a woman. Not to mention in Enterprise of the three most cerebral people on the ship, two are female.
Everything will be taken away from you.
- In fact, all leadership roles on Star Trek, old and new, are white males.
Except for the black Captain Benjamin Sisko in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and the female Captain Kathryn Janeway in Star Trek: Voyager......to see a small groups of Vorlons crash the party and start talking cryptic trash to the trekkies. :-)
"How do you think this Convention is going to end?"
"In fire."
Someone set us up the bomb, so shine we are!
Sulu is also shown to have gotten his own ship in the future.
:)
Then there is Guinan in TNG who all of the white males are continuously coming to beg advice from.
Need help treating your acne? Come here!
Empty set (0.00 sec)
You want all the people that are trekkies and techies, right? I'm maybe a little rusty, but wouldn't you want something like this:
mysql> select * from human where (human.trekkie=1 and human.techie=1);
That is, you want all rows where the records indicate that the subject is both a trekkie and a techie? Or maybe it'd be more clear if you had two columns like this:
CREATE TABLE human (
id INT(11) NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
name VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,
trekkie ENUM('YES','NO') DEFAULT 'NO',
techie ENUM('YES','NO') DEFAULT 'NO'
);
Then you could say:
mysql> select * from human where (human.trekkie='YES' and human.techie='YES');
Which is the same thing, I guess. Maybe. I'm not sure. Anyway, this got much too geeky...
-B
Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.
Therefore I am unsurprised that "techies" (i.e. a bunch of young, rich, white males)
.
I swear, even if you ARE a troll;
The next time that SOME ASSHOLE CALLS ME RICH/MIDDLE CLASS. . .
DAMNIT
pisses me off.
And only 1/3rd caucasion, yeesh.
POOR MINORITY MALE THANK YOU OH SO VERY MUCH.
/:D
Need help treating your acne? Come here!
With full 3D conventions here now, can a holodeck really be that far off?
Is it some unofficial rule that the last sentence in a story (either of the submitter or the posters making) has to be incredibly banal and idiotic?? This one about takes the cake...yeesh.
- the highest-ranking female seen to date in Star Trek is Captain Kathryn Janeway, the lead character in Star Trek: Voyager
- if you'd like to complain about "servitude", you should note that everyone is in a position of servitude to the captain
- "captain" is only a sexually-charged word if you choose to make it so for your own disingenuous purposes; it has been a rank since at least the 1700s
- Riker is never portrayed as predatory in my recollection. Women on the "new" show you refer to, Star Trek: The Next Generation which began airing in 1988 (from memory; I could be a year or two off), are presented in positions of authority and importance: Dr Beverly Crusher, the ship's chief medical officer; Lt Tasha Yar (since deceased on the show), the chief security officer for the first season or so; and Deanna Troi, the ship's counsellor who is always on the bridge
- techies comprise only a small percentage of Star Trek's total viewership and fan base
- you should indeed be modded down, for you are a troll. However, since other people less informed than myself may believe you (and obviously have, since you've been modded insightful (good troll btw)), I am replying to set the facts straight.
I'd be glad to discuss in greater depth any or all of the Star Trek programs, should you choose to rise to the bait.Um, don't remember seeing any whips, to be honest.
Cap. Janeway was supposedly a woman, though some are still demanding a chromosome test. The black woman was a commisioned officer, as opposed to the asian and russian who were both ensigns iirc. And despite how you like to troll it up, a communications specialist on a military ship is anything but a "receptionist". Not that you'd know much about that. As for a starship pilot being a "chauffeur"... oh well. You say the show was misogynistic, and yet it appears to be you that is the man-hater. Me, I've always sort of thought that everyone has only ever been as far away from the other sex as a few gene expressions taking place the first couple days after conception. I totally accept the fact that both men and women (like yourself) are totally fucked up. Funny, but you're just another part of the problem you hate so much. Haha.
The new show:
Geordi Laforge was black, last time I noticed. Cap. Sisko was black. I seem to remember more than a few female admirals too, one show or another.
This just goes to show that Star Trek kicks Star Wars' ass!
Sounds like a prime opportunity to test out those miniature tactical nukes our government is whispering about. Whoever it doesn't kill, it sterilizes -- Something that would allow us to forget the past as well as preventing this sort of thing from happening in the future.
Sounds like a good deal to me.
Cheers,
Bowie J. Poag
In fact, all leadership roles on Star Trek, old and new, are white males.
Who is the silly, silly person?
Besides sisko and janeway, there were lots of female admirals, and Captain Sulu, and lots of others.
And, a digression: Why do we use the phrase "white women" but for the other gender people say "white males." Like they are some other species?
God is real unless declared integer
Besides that, anyone who can get misogynism out of Star Trek has gotta be a bit screwed in the head. Now, I doubt the parent is a feminist as much as a troll, but nonetheless I've seen feminists come out with some weird shit; all of it easily refutable until it enters their warped minds.
Note that I'm particularly fond of females, and believe in equity, Dr Biscuit.
Gee, would anyone at this online convention believe CleverNickName when he says "Hi! I'm Wil Wheaton!" in all virtual Wesleyness?
Actually, there have been quite a few female admirals on the shows. The highest rank we've seen more than once on the show.
One third? That must have been an interesting conception scene.
There have been female admirals like that short blond hair lady Nachayov or whatever. For example in that two-part episode where Picard is captured by Cardassians after a set-up mission searching for a "meta-genic" weapon, she is the person who orders Picard to go on the mission and gives Capt. Gelico command of the Enterprise.
Thank you.
Vorlon: They are a dying race.
Us: Microsofties? or Hollingites?
Vorlon: Yes.
the other gender people say "white males."
Use of the "white male" phrase is a sure sign of a femi-bigot, and if you see it you can take it as read that anything else that person says is utter nonsense and can safely be ignored.
That which is one cannot unite.
Stupidity is mis-underestimated.
3D CONVENTION CENTER MINIMUM COMPUTER SPECIFICATIONS
Operating System: Windows 95, 98, Me, NT, XP and 2000.
Taken from www.vir-con.net.
Line 9: Argument of type SIGNATURE expected.
Interesting that they are hosting the convention with technology from Blaxxun Interactive, a company that went bust couple of months ago. Wonder how viable are their plans to get 100,000 people online based on a dead non-supported proprietary technolgy..
This is from Blaxxun.com site : "blaxxun interactive AG began insolvency proceedings on 1 March 2002. All options for preserving some part of the company or for exploiting the blaxxun software are currently being considered."
Blaxxun is based on the old VRML Java crap, no way I'm going to believe it could support 100,000 online users at the same time. To my understanding there are far better technologies to do that out there, www.taikatech.com, www.zona.net and www.rebelarts.com to name a few.
Hehe, while we're on the subject of high ranking female ST officers, a few you missed are..
7of9, Tactical
Lt. Torrez, Engineering
Vulcan Science officer on Enterprise
And the female Admerial everyone keeps reffering too, she was in the TNG episode with the scorpions that buried in the back of your neck and took over your mind.
They're going to have to make the avatars quite a bit more chubby if they're going to make it seem like a real convention.
The pupose of conventions is to bring strange people together. Onine is no fun.
I think not. 3D pictures on a screen is one thing. Having it surround you and convince you that it is reality is someting all together different.
I don't think it wasn't in SQL. I tried typing it in and all it did was give me an error message.
I was getting rather worried that this site had degraded into just another News For Tech People site... honestly, there's something wrong with the world when i can open up the front page of /. and not see a single article that I'd be embarrassed to admit I was reading.
I can feel my emotional pocket protector growing strong once again.
-d
=== "Some people see the glass as half-empty. Others see it as half-full. I see the glass as too big." -G. Carlin.
of thousands of geeks at a con won't they have to perfect Digiscents iSmell as well?
;)
Hmm, come to think of it, I might actually pay more to attend virtually than physically if they promised not to turn that on
"However, since other people less informed than myself..."
There are no such people, even here at slashdot.
Her name is Nora Satie, and she was also in a later episode, "The Drumhead", where she went on a witch hunt onboard Enterprise.
>to the power of Infinity minus one, an irrational number
No. Aleph(0) is the infinity of the integers. Aleph(1) is the infinity of the continuum.
Aleph(i)=2**Aleph(i-1)
Aleph(i)+Aleph(j)=Aleph
Aleph(i)*Aleph(j)=Aleph(Max(i,j))
And so forth. So 2^infinity-1 = infinity, where "infinity" is whichever infinity you were talking about in the first place.
This is basic transfinite arithmetic,
hawk, who learned this directly from Halmos
(yes, *that* Halmos)
I really like Star Trek, although I've never been to a convention. I partially agree with the earlier reply that said "try out some Frank Herbert." If you call yourself a ST fan and have NOT read all six books of the Dune Chronicles you are missing a world at least as provocative as the Star Trek realities.
(BTW: The last time I logged in was a year ago and I don't have my password anymore. I am MuadDib@dunechronicles.com NOT anonymous coward.)
What you say rings true; however, I just saw a one-off magazine down at Fry's that touted that it was "Timeless Star Trek." There were three captains on the cover.
Can you guess which three?
Kirk, Picard, and... Archer?
Ugh. Not only does the target market appear to be misogynist, there's probably also racism involved. Janeway and Sisko each have more "right" to be on the cover than Archer. No offense to the actor who plays Archer, but the fewest people seem to like his show or his character.
But God help us if anyone but white guys are on that cover, right? The market segmentation seems clearer if you can assume that publisher tested covers in focus groups before picking one, and that the artist didn't just say "I don't know how to draw those two" or "I don't know who they are."
Get off my launchpad!
The changes are about 10000% better at a con like our Mid South Science Fiction and Fantasy Con. It's fan run and its in Memphis. As you might know, Memphis has its own little bubble of reality. I can explain it, but you will not believe it until you see it yourself.
Next Con is in March 2003 at the Holiday/Airport/comfort/budget/whatthehellnameit willbein2003 hotel by the airport. More info to come!