... and if you knew what these words meant, you would know that
I was about to write an answer to the interesting points you raised, but then I read the last sentence you wrote and figured out that you were probably just trolling. Good luck with your ad-hominem attacks, and good night.
Jesus was attempting to bring moral values to the people, something that liberals have never done.
Jesus was attempting to teach people moral values. He wasn't attempting to shove religion down their throats.
I'm not sure if you're kidding/flamebaiting, but if you seriously think that liberals are somehow less moral than others, you're non-sadly mistaken. It's not liberals who want to burn gays at the stakes (oh, wait, maybe you think that is the moral thing to do!), and it's not liberals who sent US soldiers to die so some rich people can become even richer.
Nintendo will bring approximately 2 million Wii game consoles to the U.S. by the end of the year, a wave of machines that could help the company gain ground in the console wars.
All 2 million aren't in the U.S. right now. However, Nintendo plans to restock U.S. distributors and retailers on a weekly basis, according to the company. The console will next launch in Japan on December 2 and in Europe on December 8. Earlier this month, Nintendo said it would ship around 400,000 consoles into Japan this year.
In all, 4 million will ship this year.
Of the three console makers, Nintendo so far seems to have done the most thorough job in getting retailers and distributors stocked. The $250 Wii console, which went on sale over the weekend, was available in several retail outlets. Some early buyers are selling consoles on eBay, but generally current bidding is in the $300 to $400 range with games and extras.
But you're not comparing new versions of the same product. You're not even comparing products from the same producer.
That's correct, but not significant. I tried to make the comparison fairer by comparing consoles that were released somewhat closer to each other. If you ignore that, the comparison becomes even more crass: NES -> SNES: Went from few small sprites, few colors and little scrolling to tons of large sprites, lots of color and huge worlds that scroll in all directions. SNES -> N64: went from 2D to 3D, from digital to analog. N64 -> Cube: not much new, just more of the same, but faster, while copying a few things from other consoles (like the general controller layout, which was very similar to the Dreamcast's controller). Cube -> Wii: revolutionary new controller, online service, web.
Nintendo reinvented parts of the console with almost every iteration. Sony? Not so much. PS1->PS2 and PS2->PS3 is comparable to N64->Wii. More of the same, while copying some inventions from other manufacturers.
You can't compare SNES and PS1 to PS2 and PS3.
You're really making my case for me here, because the gap between SNES and N64 is even bigger than between the SNES and the PS1. I was giving Sony the benefit of the doubt here.
I'd rather just go to Nintendo's website and order one directly and wait until it is available and ships to me without any hassle
Console manufacturers need the stores' support. They won't compete with them. If Nintendo opened an online store, stores would stock less games and consoles and give them less shelf space. People going to the stores would perceive Nintendo to be the smaller brand and would buy other consoles instead.
ps2->ps3 introduces a fully realised integrated bootlader/partition tool for loading linux
Which is great for the three people who actually care, and for Sony if it allows them to pay less taxes.
ps3 is a fully functional set top super-computer.
Just where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, I remember: During the PS2 launch.
Regular users can email, browse web, use openoffice, play MAME, play dvds,cds, stream video, bittorrent, and compile new software...
Frankly, I doubt it. PCs have been able to do that for a long time, but "regular users" haven't been compiling any software recently. And consoles with internet access and browsers are hardly new.
Something like the Wii Remote has never been done
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there have been controllers like that for a while now, but never really caught on.
This is either a blatant lie, or you're a bit uninformed.
Frankly, I'm not sure what controllers that have been available "for a while now" you're referring to. Are you talking about motion-sensing controllers? You need to understand that the Wii Remote isn't simply a new version of the old Sidewinder FreeStyle Pro. Motion sensing controllers like the FreeStyle or the PS3 controller only recognize movement and/or the angle at which you hold the controller. The Wii Remote does more: The Wii can calculate its precise position, direction and angle. Position is the important point here: The PS3 controller doesn't know the difference between standing right in front of the TV, or sitting on your sofa far away. The Wii Remote does. The Wii knows precisely how you move the controller, and from where to where you move it in space. Hence, it supports - in addition to all the things the PS3 controller supports - stuff like golfing, sword fights or "pointing" (as in gun).
Make no mistake, something like the Wii Remote has never been done in consumer electronics.
And since your premise is false, the rest of your post is pointless.
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I guess you could call that "just souped-up," but the difference in power between the NES and the SNES is quite significant. The SNES made new games possible. The PS3 does not.
I guess the question is: Can the new console support games the old console could not? That's clearly true with the NES->SNES transition. I don't think it's true with the PS2->PS3 transition, but it's definitely true with the Cube->Wii transition.
Sorry, but Sony is going to lose a lot of market share with the PS3. It's probably not going to be a Walkman situation, but it's going to be bad. But that doesn't actually matter: My point was that their products aren't as good as they used to be. Maybe they can compete as far as market share is concerned, but it's because of their name, not because of the quality of their products.
MP3 players and consoles aren't the only parts of Sony going down the drain.
It doesn't do HD, but it does hook up and let you use the system.
Uhm... Dude. That's what the article said.
The PS3 is sold as the HD system. HD is the thing that the PS3 brings to the table. To not include an actual cable to, you know, actually use that HD stuff is just wrong. Seems like even MS includes two cables.
I don't see how you can blame anyone else other then yourself for trying to chat with without a keyboard.
In my opinion, text-entry via joypads can be done right, and it can be done wrong. The cell-like system of the PSP is definitely wrong and maddening.
You should have to plug a keyboard into a gaming console. Make a usable on-screen keyboard. It's possible.
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it really felt like nothing more than a souped up PS2
Isn't that what the next generation of anything is?
Not really. Usually, you do get something more than just "more of the same." Looking at the console history, you got things like 3D graphics (SNES -> PS1), analog sticks (PS1 -> N64), the ability to watch movies (Dreamcast -> PS2) or a real online service (PS2 -> Xbox). Sure, the PS3 brings Blu-Ray, but that's just a better DVD. What else does it have? Most things are faster.
Compare this to the Wii, which brings a really cool new controller. That's not souped up, that's new.
What went wrong with Sony? Why can't they compete anymore? What's up with the bad quality of the online system?
I have no actual insight into what's happening at Sony, but I think there's a possibility that might be some kind of brain drain going on there. Sony used to be a cool place to work for during the PS1/PS2 era, but ever since the Rootkit fiasco, they've been the bad guys. What self-respecting geek would want to work for Sony?
Maybe they simply don't have the quality and quantity of programmers to implement something the the PS3 online service in a timely manner.
But maybe not. As I said, I don't know anyone working at Sony and have no insight into what's going on there.
If you don't understand why the FF core series can only be released on Sony platforms
I think I can help here: Square moved from Nintendo to Sony when Sony introduced a system with larger storage capacities (the PS with CDs). They remained with Sony because the PS2 was pretty much killing the other two consoles during the last console gen.
With the current generation, two of these things aren't how they used to be.
except that you rest your hand on the mouse, whereas the wii controller is ment to be waved about in the air
Except that it isn't. While you can wave the remote around, you can play the Wii with your hands resting on your legs, like you play a "normal" console.
I can't imagine anybody using that controller for more than 10 minutes before getting sick of it, quite honstly.
That's somewhat strange, considering that people are already playing the Wii and not getting sick of it after 10 minutes.
In my experience, the Wii is the only console ever that got lots of non-players excited. Suddenly, people come to me and ask me about games. These are people who never held a controller in their hands. Where I live (in Europe), a major electronics retailer is doing a midnight sale for the Wii. As far as I can remember, that has never happened in this country. Not for the PS2, not for the 360. The interest in the Wii is kind of astonishing.
I've never owned a ROB, but as far as I can tell, it's not really a controller. It can be used as a "controller controller" (you give it a controller which it then uses to play against you), but not as an actual controller. Other than that, I pretty much agree.
They did make R.O.B., though. They also made the Virtual Boy (utter failure)
Yeah, they did. Although I thought the point of the Power Glove comparison was "they already did something very similar, and it didn't work." Neither the ROB nor the Virtual Boy are similar to the Wiimote.
Of course, conceptually, they're all innovative. So the question then becomes: Is innovation dangerous? I would argue the opposite: Lack of innovation is dangerous. Had Nintendo created a GBA2, the PSP would probably have killed it. The Cube (which was pretty much a N64 version 2) did not do very well. Everything but innovation would be dangerous for Nintendo at this point.
Will the Wii be a success? Probably. Is it guaranteed that it will be successfull? Of course not.
Oh, and one last point: I own two Virtual Boys. While I don't play them for long periods of time (THE EYES! THEY BURN!), they are always fun to take out and impress my friends with. Too bad Mario Tennis can't be played against other people.
Clearly we need to limit democracy so that it does not interfere with the proper functioning of capitalism.
Clearly, you need to set up straw men since you can't argue with facts. I'm not even sure what you're arguing for. First, Venezuela was a communist country ruled by a dictator (that's what I was arguing against). Now you're saying it's a capitalist (limited - in the same way that all democracies have limits) democracy? Uhm... Yeah... That was kind of my point.
Well, all the big banks (CS, and just today UBS did) are closing their offices in Cuba. There's not enough business there anymore. They're blaming the US sanctions for this.
It has a big effect on Cuba. If Cuba's economy is fucked, it's not (or at least not only) "communism's" fault. It's the Americans' fault as well.
An economic blockade is only in effect because the Cuban Government has not made reparations to the people whose property they stole after 'making their revolution.'
Yeah... Interestingly, I don't see the Americans paying too much "reparations" for stuff they stole in all the wars they fought. That's because nobody does it, and it's not America's job to govern the other countries - especially since the it was a coup d'etat in Cuba, not some kind of international war.
America is not the damn sheriff of the world, and they're most certainly not better than anyone else.
Indeed. In a spontaneous reaction to the very notion that the Glorious Leader could be overthrown and the People's Will(tm) thwarted, The People(tm) rose up to defend the revolution.
Interestingly, that is pretty much what happened (without all that "Glorious Leader" bullshit - we're talking Venezuela here, not North Korea). Of course, you probably watched CNN or Fox News where they never told you about it (they were far too busy praising your own "Glorious Leader"). Do you realize that after his first term (for which he was elected with a rather narrow margin), he was re-elected with about 60% of the votes? Most of the (poor) people in his country saw a real improvement with him, and they voted for him.
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I was about to write an answer to the interesting points you raised, but then I read the last sentence you wrote and figured out that you were probably just trolling. Good luck with your ad-hominem attacks, and good night.
Jesus was attempting to teach people moral values. He wasn't attempting to shove religion down their throats.
I'm not sure if you're kidding/flamebaiting, but if you seriously think that liberals are somehow less moral than others, you're non-sadly mistaken. It's not liberals who want to burn gays at the stakes (oh, wait, maybe you think that is the moral thing to do!), and it's not liberals who sent US soldiers to die so some rich people can become even richer.
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Hm... but if you're falling, you're accelerating at 1G, thus cancelling out gravitation, aren't you?
That's correct, but not significant. I tried to make the comparison fairer by comparing consoles that were released somewhat closer to each other. If you ignore that, the comparison becomes even more crass: NES -> SNES: Went from few small sprites, few colors and little scrolling to tons of large sprites, lots of color and huge worlds that scroll in all directions. SNES -> N64: went from 2D to 3D, from digital to analog. N64 -> Cube: not much new, just more of the same, but faster, while copying a few things from other consoles (like the general controller layout, which was very similar to the Dreamcast's controller). Cube -> Wii: revolutionary new controller, online service, web.
Nintendo reinvented parts of the console with almost every iteration. Sony? Not so much. PS1->PS2 and PS2->PS3 is comparable to N64->Wii. More of the same, while copying some inventions from other manufacturers.
You're really making my case for me here, because the gap between SNES and N64 is even bigger than between the SNES and the PS1. I was giving Sony the benefit of the doubt here.
True, but that seems to be a rather recent development.
But had a keyboard, so didn't need USB.
Anyway, even if you accept that "web browsing" and "Linux" are new for consoles, they're hardly innovative.
Console manufacturers need the stores' support. They won't compete with them. If Nintendo opened an online store, stores would stock less games and consoles and give them less shelf space. People going to the stores would perceive Nintendo to be the smaller brand and would buy other consoles instead.
Which is great for the three people who actually care, and for Sony if it allows them to pay less taxes.
Just where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, I remember: During the PS2 launch.
Frankly, I doubt it. PCs have been able to do that for a long time, but "regular users" haven't been compiling any software recently. And consoles with internet access and browsers are hardly new.
This is either a blatant lie, or you're a bit uninformed.
Frankly, I'm not sure what controllers that have been available "for a while now" you're referring to. Are you talking about motion-sensing controllers? You need to understand that the Wii Remote isn't simply a new version of the old Sidewinder FreeStyle Pro. Motion sensing controllers like the FreeStyle or the PS3 controller only recognize movement and/or the angle at which you hold the controller. The Wii Remote does more: The Wii can calculate its precise position, direction and angle. Position is the important point here: The PS3 controller doesn't know the difference between standing right in front of the TV, or sitting on your sofa far away. The Wii Remote does. The Wii knows precisely how you move the controller, and from where to where you move it in space. Hence, it supports - in addition to all the things the PS3 controller supports - stuff like golfing, sword fights or "pointing" (as in gun).
Make no mistake, something like the Wii Remote has never been done in consumer electronics.
And since your premise is false, the rest of your post is pointless.
I guess you could call that "just souped-up," but the difference in power between the NES and the SNES is quite significant. The SNES made new games possible. The PS3 does not.
I guess the question is: Can the new console support games the old console could not? That's clearly true with the NES->SNES transition. I don't think it's true with the PS2->PS3 transition, but it's definitely true with the Cube->Wii transition.
Sorry, but Sony is going to lose a lot of market share with the PS3. It's probably not going to be a Walkman situation, but it's going to be bad. But that doesn't actually matter: My point was that their products aren't as good as they used to be. Maybe they can compete as far as market share is concerned, but it's because of their name, not because of the quality of their products.
MP3 players and consoles aren't the only parts of Sony going down the drain.
Uhm... Dude. That's what the article said.
The PS3 is sold as the HD system. HD is the thing that the PS3 brings to the table. To not include an actual cable to, you know, actually use that HD stuff is just wrong. Seems like even MS includes two cables.
In my opinion, text-entry via joypads can be done right, and it can be done wrong. The cell-like system of the PSP is definitely wrong and maddening.
You should have to plug a keyboard into a gaming console. Make a usable on-screen keyboard. It's possible.
Not really. Usually, you do get something more than just "more of the same." Looking at the console history, you got things like 3D graphics (SNES -> PS1), analog sticks (PS1 -> N64), the ability to watch movies (Dreamcast -> PS2) or a real online service (PS2 -> Xbox). Sure, the PS3 brings Blu-Ray, but that's just a better DVD. What else does it have? Most things are faster.
Compare this to the Wii, which brings a really cool new controller. That's not souped up, that's new.
What went wrong with Sony? Why can't they compete anymore? What's up with the bad quality of the online system?
I have no actual insight into what's happening at Sony, but I think there's a possibility that might be some kind of brain drain going on there. Sony used to be a cool place to work for during the PS1/PS2 era, but ever since the Rootkit fiasco, they've been the bad guys. What self-respecting geek would want to work for Sony?
Maybe they simply don't have the quality and quantity of programmers to implement something the the PS3 online service in a timely manner.
But maybe not. As I said, I don't know anyone working at Sony and have no insight into what's going on there.
I think I can help here: Square moved from Nintendo to Sony when Sony introduced a system with larger storage capacities (the PS with CDs). They remained with Sony because the PS2 was pretty much killing the other two consoles during the last console gen.
With the current generation, two of these things aren't how they used to be.
Except that it isn't. While you can wave the remote around, you can play the Wii with your hands resting on your legs, like you play a "normal" console.
That's somewhat strange, considering that people are already playing the Wii and not getting sick of it after 10 minutes.
In my experience, the Wii is the only console ever that got lots of non-players excited. Suddenly, people come to me and ask me about games. These are people who never held a controller in their hands. Where I live (in Europe), a major electronics retailer is doing a midnight sale for the Wii. As far as I can remember, that has never happened in this country. Not for the PS2, not for the 360. The interest in the Wii is kind of astonishing.
Good luck with your shorting, though.
I've never owned a ROB, but as far as I can tell, it's not really a controller. It can be used as a "controller controller" (you give it a controller which it then uses to play against you), but not as an actual controller. Other than that, I pretty much agree.
Yeah, they did. Although I thought the point of the Power Glove comparison was "they already did something very similar, and it didn't work." Neither the ROB nor the Virtual Boy are similar to the Wiimote.
Of course, conceptually, they're all innovative. So the question then becomes: Is innovation dangerous? I would argue the opposite: Lack of innovation is dangerous. Had Nintendo created a GBA2, the PSP would probably have killed it. The Cube (which was pretty much a N64 version 2) did not do very well. Everything but innovation would be dangerous for Nintendo at this point.
Will the Wii be a success? Probably. Is it guaranteed that it will be successfull? Of course not.
Oh, and one last point: I own two Virtual Boys. While I don't play them for long periods of time (THE EYES! THEY BURN!), they are always fun to take out and impress my friends with. Too bad Mario Tennis can't be played against other people.
The Power Glove wasn't a Nintendo product. It was made by Mattel. There were a grand total of two games made for the Power Glove. Two crappy games. The Wii controller will be different.
Clearly, you need to set up straw men since you can't argue with facts. I'm not even sure what you're arguing for. First, Venezuela was a communist country ruled by a dictator (that's what I was arguing against). Now you're saying it's a capitalist (limited - in the same way that all democracies have limits) democracy? Uhm... Yeah... That was kind of my point.
Well, all the big banks (CS, and just today UBS did) are closing their offices in Cuba. There's not enough business there anymore. They're blaming the US sanctions for this.
It has a big effect on Cuba. If Cuba's economy is fucked, it's not (or at least not only) "communism's" fault. It's the Americans' fault as well.
Yeah... Interestingly, I don't see the Americans paying too much "reparations" for stuff they stole in all the wars they fought. That's because nobody does it, and it's not America's job to govern the other countries - especially since the it was a coup d'etat in Cuba, not some kind of international war.
America is not the damn sheriff of the world, and they're most certainly not better than anyone else.
Interestingly, that is pretty much what happened (without all that "Glorious Leader" bullshit - we're talking Venezuela here, not North Korea). Of course, you probably watched CNN or Fox News where they never told you about it (they were far too busy praising your own "Glorious Leader"). Do you realize that after his first term (for which he was elected with a rather narrow margin), he was re-elected with about 60% of the votes? Most of the (poor) people in his country saw a real improvement with him, and they voted for him.