Read the comment a bit more closly. One person is saying that the US would like to force people like Britain does. The other guy stated that such an action would be illigal in the US (not britian) as we have a right to not incrimidate ourselves if we so choose.
Well, yea they have got a few more million in their pockets, not to mention the fact that 6.1 being an odd number probably means its an experimental release. (BTW, now that linux is gaining popularity.. do we need to start teaching the PLBs about odd/even releases, if we don't we'll have problem on our hand we the boss starts telling us to upgrade to such and such x.3 or whatever.) Anyways yes, I would hope 6.2 would come out soon, just like 6.0 came out shortly after 5.9 (which was really not 5.9 and geez I've already forgotten the name) Personally I thought that lorax was 6.1 and 6.2 would be the next release.. guess I was wrong.. btw.. whats the name on this release... is it still lorax?
Yes, but its generally not a good idea to take a brand new release, especially something that has the potential of being buggy like GNOME, and just throwing it into the release. Redhat spends time testing any major new released add to their distro. Plus they would generally want to tune thier distro to work with GNOME, not to mention tuning a specific desktop for thier users. But, if what you want is GNOME and X 2.4 just simply thrown in their, wait till they are released and throw them into redhat 6.x yourself. But unless you really know what your doing, you will have an interesting time trying to customize.
and, Transmeta representatives did not return phone calls
Transmeta has representatives? They have phones? Thats news. The fact that they didn't return their phone calls is no news. If they did return their phone calls, even just to say hi. That would be the news of the decade.
So, what your saying is that if we could ever get our representatives to listen to us, and vote on thier ultimate suggestion, we could have a kick ass government. I like it. As it seems we could never get our (my) government to do something like this, (they only pretend to listen). Who out there is all about creating an island of oil tankers and see how far the slashdot effect will take us:)
Mentioning how x86 is old outdated hardware, that is one reason I love linux. The only reason we have stuck with x86 for absolutly so long is because of microsoft. Everybody wants to remain compatible, that makes sence. But if linux can truly take off, people will be able to migrate from x86 to alpha to PPC to whatever easily. As you would mainting the same operating system and be able to aquire the same look, feel, and programs available. We could get some real work done in the hardware architecture buisness. Instead of spending all our time on legacy support. I mean seriously when someone buys a new computer, nothing usually gets transfered over but a few datafile. Have a common tranfer interface, and or network backup available. And we can start to move into the next generation. And transmeta will help us all along:) Thanx Linus
Simple, you first translate it into an archtecture that is blasingly fast. Imagine if you will that I had a program to translate your office 2000 program into a program to run on my high end dec alpha. at the same clock speed it will run much faster on the alpha. This simply makes the translation phase in the hardware. Also it optimized the code and checks for errors, making it even faster as you don't have to deal with errors in the central processor. How do you do this all and make it cheaper. I HAVE NO F#%# IDEA!
No encryption provided; Christians have nothing to hide.
I don't know, personally most Christians in the know I've meet supported encryption. Though mainly because they get a kick out of overthrowing governments (can't blame them) and encyption is a powerful tool in this effort.
Yes, but exactly how do you do a cannonball is zero G? And once your done, if your like me and not so hot at seeing underwater, how do you know which was is the surface (assuming all 5 other sides are lines with concret)
You have a point, even though I'm sure we will be moderated into flame bait hell. All the paper that us used in the US comes from tree farms that are grown. The paper industry doesn't go around cutting down acres of undesturbes forest (that territory is for the shopping malls to go). Personally from what I've read though, its the disposal of paper that is the problem. Throw it away, the paper easily decomposes, but the ink doesn't. Recycle, the process or cleaning the ink from the old paper is as dangerous to the environment as any other option. I just sounds a lot better:)
Yes, netware is very stable when your simply sharing database/document files, and using it as a printer server but when start to get application constent application request things start to bog down. I'll admit that centralized applications are in theory a good idea, but in real life, they simply don't work over the long haul. It has been proved time and time again that applications should be run from the clients side, or your simply asking for a waste of productivity. Even with 99% uptime if your a buisness and suddenly all your employees can no longer get their work done, how much money do you lose every second? Yes, individual desktops do crash also, but buisnesses are set up around the fact that you can't expect every employee to be constently working. Lossing 1 employee for several hours, is the same thing as if they called in sick that day, simply its to be expected. But loosing the entire workforce for even a few minutes can mean disaster. Yes, I know this is a school environment, but I do remember the times when I had a assignment due NOW and the network was down.. not a pretty sight.
Just for clarification I meant with a nom centralized application environment when the network is down you might loose internet but you would still have local applications like compilers and wordprocessors.
Anyone else here remember the days when many schools were on novell networks during the push for centralized software. Not a fun sight, its really sad to see all this happening again. I'll admit centralized management is nice, but its no so nice when the entire school can get no work done just because the server crashed. And yes, servers still do crash. All too frequently servers crash and people cannot access the internet and or email. But atleast they could type up a document in a wordprocessor, or finish up thier programming assignment. Fun game to play, if your ever in an office park and you see what looks to you like way too many secretaries outside eating/smoking or whatever. Walk up to one and say "So? the network is down hu?"
tarball? first you would need to get linux/unix as the dominate operating system, and I don't see that happening atleast not for a few years, and even more till tar becomes the standard. PS. I really don't like tar myself, why are we still using such old technology anyways.
A company that doesn't even do a basic spell check on their corporate press release looses a lot of respect from me personally. Note: I can not spell very well myself, but then again, I'm not creating press releases for an industry.
Dynamic Naked Audio,Inc. has developed the "Pocket Digital Audio." On 15 June 1999 we will launch the PDA in PC shops an dother electric consumer stores, as well as convenience sstores and record shops. This will be the first time. MP3 player is manufactured by a Japanese company.
Pocket Digital Audio uses a stamp-sized storage media MMC (Multi Media Card) which can be used to store music data. We managed to produce the smallest palmsized MP3 player in the world, wiht outer measuerments of 46mm (W) x 53mm (H) x 16mm (D) and weighing just 30g. A new functional idea is condensed into this compact and cool body. It is also possible to reproduce digital music by the highest quality.
The PDA is very strong and since all the drive portions are excluded, it is vibration and shock resistant. The PDA has 2 MMC slots which can reproduce a total of 1 hour of high quolity music.
The MMC corresponds to ROS witch is said to be the next genaration audio media. ROS (Record On Silicon) is ROM specification of MMC, and it is the music software of the state where music data are already written in. Though the ROS, we are confident that the spread of MP3 players will not only be limited to be PC users.
Umm, on Win95/98 when you turn on the computer follwing a change in daylight savings it pops up a window notifying you of that change. meaning he hadn't turned on the computer since beginning of spring.
Even if there is a school assigned email address, do you honestly think a teacher who would support such an action accually HAS and email address? That a laugh, sorta like my boss that insisted we buy him a $5000 laptop and never used it. I happend to turn it on the other day to try and update something and had the daylight savings time notification pop up.. Meaning he hadn't turned it on in months. OPPS sorry I just went on a rant there didn't I?:)
Well, while I am fairly anti government I will agree that government does have a place to step in, but when and only when the free market system is not working. So far there has been nothing but theories showing free market schooling does not work. In rural areas that you mention, there may be a need for more compitition, which is another thing the government is supposed to support in the free market. But as of now, compition is essentially locked out by the dumping of a free product into the market (hehe sorry been examining the microsoft trial too much latly). So in the rural areas there is already a lock in for public schools but if there was a chance to compitition I can't imagine that to be a bad thing. There just has to be choice, so the public schools should continue to exist (and don't say the public schools would loose money from compitions the public schools get X dollars per student no matter how many students and the schools are overcrowding as it is this would just keep us from wasting money on new buildings and reduce class size)
I honestly have no idea how the school board chooses its members (in florida) I do know we elect the head of it (which for some constant reason is a complete idiot) but I believe the rest of the school board is picked by the school board. Also for some strange reason I tend to have trust the a parent to pick a decent school and stay with it.. though admittenly my parents didn't pick a very good school for me.. but they definatly wouldn't let me out of it (I went to a semi private school it was an experimental school run by Florida State University.. paid by university funds essentially cheap, but you have to be on a waiting list.) Anyways I think I just went off on a tangent, but my point basically is that generally parents know that moving thier kids around is not a good thing, so while there isn't always inital recourse for stupidity like that it does tend to keep away new customers. (Btw the school I went to is now starting to seriously loose students.. personally I'm suprised it took so long, but it was one of the best schools up until the year before I went there, but it got changed from being funded by the university but under private control, to being controled by the dean of the university to his private whims while he never accually stepped foot on the grounds)
Both of your examples seemed to be of public schools, that took money from private corportations. In which I'd be willing to bet the parents at those schools had absolutly no resource to what the school did (except maby legally) in a free market system, the parents would simply switch to a new school. So it seems your getting the arguments of a public school funded by private money and a private school funded, mostly from its customers mixed up. I do agree though, that it should be the States responcibility to fund these schools (or atleast provide the money to the parents) otherwise parents looking for a low cost solution just might pick "Coke" school or something like that. But with a minimum money backing equal to the normal cost there would not be such a problem. But then the problem would come with how would schools compete by price, which is a damn good question one of which I don't have the answer too.. cause after all.. no matter what people choose to call me.. I am not God.
Well accually any tax they do impose upon internet commerce would be also imposed on mail order commerce, as legally speaking its the same thing. The difference is that while we have had mail order for many many years it has never been in much mass so therefor the states didn't worry so much. Now that it is SO easy and in such abundance the states are worrying. So yes, it is the same thing, just the easy of use has changed therfor the demand for as such as increased, freightening the states.
Yes, but if you take any basic American History class you will learn that states back in the Confederation (I'm talking post revolutionary war confederation and not civil war confeseration for those of you who don't know history) used to tax eachothers goods at will. And while I don't know exactly where the constitution states this, or how I do know that in its drafting they made a point to the fact that they didn't want states to be taxing eachothers goods. The congress had the right to change such a law but the point of the law is to keep our nations economy as a whole instead of seperated like most countries. (its generally seen that countries that do not tax eachothers trades tend to have economies that run together and act upon eachother more so than states that do tax)
HEEH I remember one time, I was watching "Politically Incorrect" and the host, (can't remember the guys name.. shows you how often I watch tv) is against gun control, but he did make an interesting point (pro gun) in one of their dicussions concerning gun control. He said that a couple of years ago when there was a huge rash of drive by shooting and LA and everyone started fearing that alot of people on the road where carrying guns. The suddently for a while (till the idea that everyone was carrying guns went away) the drivers of LA were the nicest polite drivers you ever saw. Saying thank you and excuse me and never cutting anyone off and such. HEHEHEHEH
Well you know, after we dropped "The Bomb" there havn't been that many bloody wars, (excluding vietnam was just purly based on stupidity and in a case where neither side would have used "The Bomb") Sure there is the constent threat, and people for the first 40 years or more lived in constent freight of "The Bomb" but being scared never hurt anyone, and now we don't think about it all the time, and we have cheap nuclear power (or we should.. but I thats another topic).
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Read the comment a bit more closly. One person is saying that the US would like to force people like Britain does. The other guy stated that such an action would be illigal in the US (not britian) as we have a right to not incrimidate ourselves if we so choose.
Well, yea they have got a few more million in their pockets, not to mention the fact that 6.1 being an odd number probably means its an experimental release. (BTW, now that linux is gaining popularity.. do we need to start teaching the PLBs about odd/even releases, if we don't we'll have problem on our hand we the boss starts telling us to upgrade to such and such x.3 or whatever.) Anyways yes, I would hope 6.2 would come out soon, just like 6.0 came out shortly after 5.9 (which was really not 5.9 and geez I've already forgotten the name) Personally I thought that lorax was 6.1 and 6.2 would be the next release.. guess I was wrong.. btw.. whats the name on this release... is it still lorax?
Yes, but its generally not a good idea to take a brand new release, especially something that has the potential of being buggy like GNOME, and just throwing it into the release. Redhat spends time testing any major new released add to their distro. Plus they would generally want to tune thier distro to work with GNOME, not to mention tuning a specific desktop for thier users. But, if what you want is GNOME and X 2.4 just simply thrown in their, wait till they are released and throw them into redhat 6.x yourself. But unless you really know what your doing, you will have an interesting time trying to customize.
and, Transmeta representatives did not return phone calls
Transmeta has representatives? They have phones? Thats news. The fact that they didn't return their phone calls is no news. If they did return their phone calls, even just to say hi. That would be the news of the decade.
So, what your saying is that if we could ever get our representatives to listen to us, and vote on thier ultimate suggestion, we could have a kick ass government. I like it. As it seems we could never get our (my) government to do something like this, (they only pretend to listen). Who out there is all about creating an island of oil tankers and see how far the slashdot effect will take us :)
Mentioning how x86 is old outdated hardware, that is one reason I love linux. The only reason we have stuck with x86 for absolutly so long is because of microsoft. Everybody wants to remain compatible, that makes sence. But if linux can truly take off, people will be able to migrate from x86 to alpha to PPC to whatever easily. As you would mainting the same operating system and be able to aquire the same look, feel, and programs available. We could get some real work done in the hardware architecture buisness. Instead of spending all our time on legacy support. I mean seriously when someone buys a new computer, nothing usually gets transfered over but a few datafile. Have a common tranfer interface, and or network backup available. And we can start to move into the next generation. And transmeta will help us all along :) Thanx Linus
Simple, you first translate it into an archtecture that is blasingly fast. Imagine if you will that I had a program to translate your office 2000 program into a program to run on my high end dec alpha. at the same clock speed it will run much faster on the alpha. This simply makes the translation phase in the hardware. Also it optimized the code and checks for errors, making it even faster as you don't have to deal with errors in the central processor. How do you do this all and make it cheaper. I HAVE NO F#%# IDEA!
No encryption provided; Christians have nothing to hide.
I don't know, personally most Christians in the know I've meet supported encryption. Though mainly because they get a kick out of overthrowing governments (can't blame them) and encyption is a powerful tool in this effort.
Yes, but exactly how do you do a cannonball is zero G? And once your done, if your like me and not so hot at seeing underwater, how do you know which was is the surface (assuming all 5 other sides are lines with concret)
You have a point, even though I'm sure we will be moderated into flame bait hell. All the paper that us used in the US comes from tree farms that are grown. The paper industry doesn't go around cutting down acres of undesturbes forest (that territory is for the shopping malls to go). Personally from what I've read though, its the disposal of paper that is the problem. Throw it away, the paper easily decomposes, but the ink doesn't. Recycle, the process or cleaning the ink from the old paper is as dangerous to the environment as any other option. I just sounds a lot better :)
Yes, netware is very stable when your simply sharing database/document files, and using it as a printer server but when start to get application constent application request things start to bog down. I'll admit that centralized applications are in theory a good idea, but in real life, they simply don't work over the long haul. It has been proved time and time again that applications should be run from the clients side, or your simply asking for a waste of productivity. Even with 99% uptime if your a buisness and suddenly all your employees can no longer get their work done, how much money do you lose every second? Yes, individual desktops do crash also, but buisnesses are set up around the fact that you can't expect every employee to be constently working. Lossing 1 employee for several hours, is the same thing as if they called in sick that day, simply its to be expected. But loosing the entire workforce for even a few minutes can mean disaster. Yes, I know this is a school environment, but I do remember the times when I had a assignment due NOW and the network was down.. not a pretty sight.
Just for clarification I meant with a nom centralized application environment when the network is down you might loose internet but you would still have local applications like compilers and wordprocessors.
Anyone else here remember the days when many schools were on novell networks during the push for centralized software. Not a fun sight, its really sad to see all this happening again. I'll admit centralized management is nice, but its no so nice when the entire school can get no work done just because the server crashed. And yes, servers still do crash. All too frequently servers crash and people cannot access the internet and or email. But atleast they could type up a document in a wordprocessor, or finish up thier programming assignment. Fun game to play, if your ever in an office park and you see what looks to you like way too many secretaries outside eating/smoking or whatever. Walk up to one and say "So? the network is down hu?"
tarball? first you would need to get linux/unix as the dominate operating system, and I don't see that happening atleast not for a few years, and even more till tar becomes the standard. PS. I really don't like tar myself, why are we still using such old technology anyways.
A company that doesn't even do a basic spell check on their corporate press release looses a lot of respect from me personally. Note: I can not spell very well myself, but then again, I'm not creating press releases for an industry.
Dynamic Naked Audio,Inc. has developed the "Pocket Digital Audio." On 15 June 1999 we will launch the PDA in PC shops an dother electric consumer stores, as well as convenience sstores and record shops. This will be the first time. MP3 player is manufactured by a Japanese company.
Pocket Digital Audio uses a stamp-sized storage media MMC (Multi Media Card) which can be used to store music data. We managed to produce the smallest palmsized MP3 player in the world, wiht outer measuerments of 46mm (W) x 53mm (H) x 16mm (D) and weighing just 30g. A new functional idea is condensed into this compact and cool body. It is also possible to reproduce digital music by the highest quality.
The PDA is very strong and since all the drive portions are excluded, it is vibration and shock resistant. The PDA has 2 MMC slots which can reproduce a total of 1 hour of high quolity music.
The MMC corresponds to ROS witch is said to be the next genaration audio media. ROS (Record On Silicon) is ROM specification of MMC, and it is the music software of the state where music data are already written in. Though the ROS, we are confident that the spread of MP3 players will not only be limited to be PC users.
I probably missed some too?
Umm, on Win95/98 when you turn on the computer follwing a change in daylight savings it pops up a window notifying you of that change. meaning he hadn't turned on the computer since beginning of spring.
Even if there is a school assigned email address, do you honestly think a teacher who would support such an action accually HAS and email address? That a laugh, sorta like my boss that insisted we buy him a $5000 laptop and never used it. I happend to turn it on the other day to try and update something and had the daylight savings time notification pop up.. Meaning he hadn't turned it on in months. OPPS sorry I just went on a rant there didn't I? :)
Well, while I am fairly anti government I will agree that government does have a place to step in, but when and only when the free market system is not working. So far there has been nothing but theories showing free market schooling does not work. In rural areas that you mention, there may be a need for more compitition, which is another thing the government is supposed to support in the free market. But as of now, compition is essentially locked out by the dumping of a free product into the market (hehe sorry been examining the microsoft trial too much latly). So in the rural areas there is already a lock in for public schools but if there was a chance to compitition I can't imagine that to be a bad thing. There just has to be choice, so the public schools should continue to exist (and don't say the public schools would loose money from compitions the public schools get X dollars per student no matter how many students and the schools are overcrowding as it is this would just keep us from wasting money on new buildings and reduce class size)
I honestly have no idea how the school board chooses its members (in florida) I do know we elect the head of it (which for some constant reason is a complete idiot) but I believe the rest of the school board is picked by the school board. Also for some strange reason I tend to have trust the a parent to pick a decent school and stay with it.. though admittenly my parents didn't pick a very good school for me.. but they definatly wouldn't let me out of it (I went to a semi private school it was an experimental school run by Florida State University.. paid by university funds essentially cheap, but you have to be on a waiting list.) Anyways I think I just went off on a tangent, but my point basically is that generally parents know that moving thier kids around is not a good thing, so while there isn't always inital recourse for stupidity like that it does tend to keep away new customers. (Btw the school I went to is now starting to seriously loose students.. personally I'm suprised it took so long, but it was one of the best schools up until the year before I went there, but it got changed from being funded by the university but under private control, to being controled by the dean of the university to his private whims while he never accually stepped foot on the grounds)
Both of your examples seemed to be of public schools, that took money from private corportations. In which I'd be willing to bet the parents at those schools had absolutly no resource to what the school did (except maby legally) in a free market system, the parents would simply switch to a new school. So it seems your getting the arguments of a public school funded by private money and a private school funded, mostly from its customers mixed up. I do agree though, that it should be the States responcibility to fund these schools (or atleast provide the money to the parents) otherwise parents looking for a low cost solution just might pick "Coke" school or something like that. But with a minimum money backing equal to the normal cost there would not be such a problem. But then the problem would come with how would schools compete by price, which is a damn good question one of which I don't have the answer too.. cause after all.. no matter what people choose to call me.. I am not God.
Well accually any tax they do impose upon internet commerce would be also imposed on mail order commerce, as legally speaking its the same thing. The difference is that while we have had mail order for many many years it has never been in much mass so therefor the states didn't worry so much. Now that it is SO easy and in such abundance the states are worrying. So yes, it is the same thing, just the easy of use has changed therfor the demand for as such as increased, freightening the states.
Yes, but if you take any basic American History class you will learn that states back in the Confederation (I'm talking post revolutionary war confederation and not civil war confeseration for those of you who don't know history) used to tax eachothers goods at will. And while I don't know exactly where the constitution states this, or how I do know that in its drafting they made a point to the fact that they didn't want states to be taxing eachothers goods. The congress had the right to change such a law but the point of the law is to keep our nations economy as a whole instead of seperated like most countries. (its generally seen that countries that do not tax eachothers trades tend to have economies that run together and act upon eachother more so than states that do tax)
Oh comeon, your plasma is only worth a cookie or two, get real. If you were really serious you would sell one of your lungs for COMDEX.
HEEH I remember one time, I was watching "Politically Incorrect" and the host, (can't remember the guys name.. shows you how often I watch tv) is against gun control, but he did make an interesting point (pro gun) in one of their dicussions concerning gun control. He said that a couple of years ago when there was a huge rash of drive by shooting and LA and everyone started fearing that alot of people on the road where carrying guns. The suddently for a while (till the idea that everyone was carrying guns went away) the drivers of LA were the nicest polite drivers you ever saw. Saying thank you and excuse me and never cutting anyone off and such. HEHEHEHEH
Well you know, after we dropped "The Bomb" there havn't been that many bloody wars, (excluding vietnam was just purly based on stupidity and in a case where neither side would have used "The Bomb") Sure there is the constent threat, and people for the first 40 years or more lived in constent freight of "The Bomb" but being scared never hurt anyone, and now we don't think about it all the time, and we have cheap nuclear power (or we should.. but I thats another topic).