You would think this has been debunked enough times, but it keeps coming back. That statistic means absolutely nothing. Americans use more resources because America manufacturers more than can be used by Americans (i.e., a lot of it is exported). It will never happen that the entire world uses that much resources, because that is more than there are people to use them.
Ummm, no. America imports way more than we export. We have Chinese make Nike shoes for $12 a pair including all material costs and labor and then resell them for $70-$100 throughout the world. We do this with a ton of crap.
Listen carefully: The pie is not limited. There is an unlimited amount of resource in the world. Let me repeat that: There is an unlimited amount of resource in the world. One more time: There is an unlimited amount of resources in the world.
That is the most bone-headed thing I have ever heard. We need to switch to clean power now, not when oil is too expensive to use. Earth can only absorb so much carbon dioxide from the air each year. When people creates more carbon dioxide than nature can clean up for us, we are in for a world of sh*t. Our energy needs are growing at an unbelievable pace. We need to plan for the future now.
As for third world "exploitation", the issue is not as simple as you make it sound. The "pennies per hour" is misleading. Could you live here at that rate? No, but they can live in their own country on that rate. That means that you are mixing apples/oranges when comparing pay rates.
There is a difference between surviving and living. People are surviving on pennies a day but they lost their vast lands and way of life and are now stuck in polluted crowded enviroment. I spend about $4,000 a year on computers and about $12,000 a year paying for a nice place to live and about $40,000 a year in taxes to pay for neat stuff like roads/education/military/NASA. You can't tell me I could buy the the same computers for $10 a year, the same house for $30 per year, and roads/education/military/space program on $100 of taxes in one of these underdeveloped countries where people live off of $1/day.
I know I'm in the minority with respect to my political views. My mother used to tell me "The world would be a wonderfull place if everybody cleaned up a little more than they messed up every day." I intend to do everything I can to make sure the world is a little better for my having been here. I don't think Republicans will destroy the world but I think other parties will make the world a better place faster. I'll vote my way, you'll vote your way. You will probably win for now but at least I tried.
You are right. We don't have a responsibilty to fix governments. I think we have no right to mess with peoples governments. We do, however, have a responsibility to fix the world. We broke it.
It would take five Earths to support the world population if everybody consumed resources at the rate Americans do (source: Business Week). We became rich by taking resources from those who did not understand what they had. We have laws protecting minors from sexual relationships with adults, laws against minors entering contracts with adults, and laws against passing debt to our children. Why then shouldn't we have laws against taking resources from undeveloped nations, contracting with them to provide labor at pennies per hour, and leaving their children with a huge ecological debt?
We have a moral responsibility to only take our share of the world's resources and I think we should have a legal responsibility as well.
You vote for what you want. I'll vote for what I want. Majority rules.
Over 1 billion people on this planet live on 1 dollar or less a day. I make four hundred times that amount working at a fun-as-hell programming job.
So, just because life is good for us, we shouldn't ignore politics. We have a responsibility to vote for people who will work hard to make it possible for every single person on the planet to live the way we do.
I don't know who is the best person to run this country but I studied all my choices carefully and I will vote for the person I deem most fit. Every American should do the same.
Arrogant jerk......if that is what employers mean when they tell me I won't fit in with their culture, I've got a serious problem.
I generally regard myself as a very nice person. I'm very chatty and I go out of my way to help anybody who needs help. At my last position, people always went out of their way to make sure I was assigned to their project and frequently called my manager to say how nice I was.
I really hope I do not come off as an arrogant jerk.
I know everything about everything and still no job. What gives?
Seriously, my resume reads like the index of the IT encyclopedia of everything and I have a string of real world projects that impress everyone who takes the time to look. Over the phone companies beg me to work for them and promise great salaries and unheard of benifits. Then I go for an interview and get shot down like I was wearing a big red target on by chest and it's open season on IT workers. The answer I always get is "We are very impressed with your skills but just don't think you'll fit with our culture". WTF?!?!
I dress up a level above the interviewer, I'm nice, I talk about how great the company is and how much I'd love to be a part of their team. Then they show me the door.
The only thing I can think of is it is readily apparant I am less than half the age of anybody else at the company (I'm 21 and all the tech's I've been interviewed by here in Wisconsin are 50+)
It's taken Nintendo ten* years of development to come up with the Game Boy Advance which rivals the Atari Linx.
Seriously, the Game Boy Advance looks almost exactly as my Atari Linx.
I had an Atari Linx about ten* years ago. It had a color screen and fast enough processor for one game that had cheasy Wolfenstein type 3D graphics. Methinks Nintendo could have done better with the new Game Boy Advance.
*Editors note -- that ten years figure could be way off. It sure *feels* like ten years though.
Certainly I would need a steel rod implanted in my head to believe a libertarian government would bust up the monopolies.
Your points about economic libertarians are well taken and I believe what you say coinsides with my fellings. I believe the government needs strong social programs so that every American has a place to live, food, and good health care, and free education even if they lose every cent they have.
The reason I like libertarians however is my belief that the government has no place in regulating my business dealings. If I want to buy a CD and rip into MP3s for all my friends I should be able to. If the RIAA does not want me to do this they should have had me sign a zillion page contract saying exactly how, when, and who is allowed to listen to the music on that CD. They could even put some teeth into the contract threatening to never sell me another CD if I violate their contract.
Well, the reason I consider mega-corps communist is because of their sheer size and the way they do business.
A capitalist busines, in my mind, is a small and fast moving company that competes with many other small and fast moving companies to sell the best product possable at the lowest cost possable in order to still make a profit.
On the other hand, I see mega-corps as a rigidly structured self contained government. Products are often controlled through litigation to create or maintain a monopoly or an oligarchy. Employees are cared for in every manner by the company (insurance, child care, predictable salary not based on skill). Also mega-corps are given state financial assistance in the form of very low cost loans, grants, corporate welvare, government surplus purchasing programs, etc. These corporations far closer resemble the state run "businesses" of communist China than they do the capitalist ideal stated above.
56K you say...methinks you mean 56k notice the case of the 'k'. A 20K connection is 160k. On the flip side a 56k modem has a theoretical speed of 7K but that speed is limited even further by the FCC/Line noise etc.
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Thanks for the link -- Harry Brown has my vote.
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I feel like such a clod. I've been rooting for Al Gore all this time because I think George W. Bush is way worse.
I tell people around me to vote for anybody except for the big two parties just to send the message that there is unrest about the way things are.
Now I have a good recommendation. Thanks.
BTW: (obligitory on topic message so I dont get modded to blackest hell) The huge Mega-Corps like Microsoft an oligarchys like RIAA and MPAA would not be able to survive a libertarian government because their kingdoms are won and protected by an overbearing government. Going libertarian will bring the Constitution back to power.
Let us reclaim this great country and strike down government support of the god-less comunist Mega-Corps!
They use the standard configure/mame all/make install. Just write a little shell script to compile all the packages. Switch to Virtual Console 6, set everything to run with maximum niceness, and let er rip. Then just go back to your desktop while waiting for everything to compile and pretend the beta comes out tommorow.
Or, get SuSE. You can't beat those crazy German engineers. Every RPM works every time for me.
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You would think this has been debunked enough times, but it keeps coming back. That statistic means absolutely nothing. Americans use more resources because America manufacturers more than can be used by Americans (i.e., a lot of it is exported). It will never happen that the entire world uses that much resources, because that is more than there are people to use them.
Ummm, no. America imports way more than we export. We have Chinese make Nike shoes for $12 a pair including all material costs and labor and then resell them for $70-$100 throughout the world. We do this with a ton of crap.
Listen carefully: The pie is not limited. There is an unlimited amount of resource in the world. Let me repeat that: There is an unlimited amount of resource in the world. One more time: There is an unlimited amount of resources in the world.
That is the most bone-headed thing I have ever heard. We need to switch to clean power now, not when oil is too expensive to use. Earth can only absorb so much carbon dioxide from the air each year. When people creates more carbon dioxide than nature can clean up for us, we are in for a world of sh*t. Our energy needs are growing at an unbelievable pace. We need to plan for the future now.
As for third world "exploitation", the issue is not as simple as you make it sound. The "pennies per hour" is misleading. Could you live here at that rate? No, but they can live in their own country on that rate. That means that you are mixing apples/oranges when comparing pay rates.
There is a difference between surviving and living. People are surviving on pennies a day but they lost their vast lands and way of life and are now stuck in polluted crowded enviroment. I spend about $4,000 a year on computers and about $12,000 a year paying for a nice place to live and about $40,000 a year in taxes to pay for neat stuff like roads/education/military/NASA. You can't tell me I could buy the the same computers for $10 a year, the same house for $30 per year, and roads/education/military/space program on $100 of taxes in one of these underdeveloped countries where people live off of $1/day.
I know I'm in the minority with respect to my political views. My mother used to tell me "The world would be a wonderfull place if everybody cleaned up a little more than they messed up every day." I intend to do everything I can to make sure the world is a little better for my having been here. I don't think Republicans will destroy the world but I think other parties will make the world a better place faster. I'll vote my way, you'll vote your way. You will probably win for now but at least I tried.
meept!
We do not have a responsibility to fix the world.
You are right. We don't have a responsibilty to fix governments. I think we have no right to mess with peoples governments. We do, however, have a responsibility to fix the world. We broke it.
It would take five Earths to support the world population if everybody consumed resources at the rate Americans do (source: Business Week). We became rich by taking resources from those who did not understand what they had. We have laws protecting minors from sexual relationships with adults, laws against minors entering contracts with adults, and laws against passing debt to our children. Why then shouldn't we have laws against taking resources from undeveloped nations, contracting with them to provide labor at pennies per hour, and leaving their children with a huge ecological debt?
We have a moral responsibility to only take our share of the world's resources and I think we should have a legal responsibility as well.
You vote for what you want. I'll vote for what I want. Majority rules.
meept!
Over 1 billion people on this planet live on 1 dollar or less a day. I make four hundred times that amount working at a fun-as-hell programming job.
So, just because life is good for us, we shouldn't ignore politics. We have a responsibility to vote for people who will work hard to make it possible for every single person on the planet to live the way we do.
I don't know who is the best person to run this country but I studied all my choices carefully and I will vote for the person I deem most fit. Every American should do the same.
meept!
Arrogant jerk... ...if that is what employers mean when they tell me I won't fit in with their culture, I've got a serious problem.
I generally regard myself as a very nice person. I'm very chatty and I go out of my way to help anybody who needs help. At my last position, people always went out of their way to make sure I was assigned to their project and frequently called my manager to say how nice I was.
I really hope I do not come off as an arrogant jerk.
meept!
I know everything about everything and still no job. What gives?
Seriously, my resume reads like the index of the IT encyclopedia of everything and I have a string of real world projects that impress everyone who takes the time to look. Over the phone companies beg me to work for them and promise great salaries and unheard of benifits. Then I go for an interview and get shot down like I was wearing a big red target on by chest and it's open season on IT workers. The answer I always get is "We are very impressed with your skills but just don't think you'll fit with our culture". WTF?!?!
I dress up a level above the interviewer, I'm nice, I talk about how great the company is and how much I'd love to be a part of their team. Then they show me the door.
The only thing I can think of is it is readily apparant I am less than half the age of anybody else at the company (I'm 21 and all the tech's I've been interviewed by here in Wisconsin are 50+)
meept!
It's taken Nintendo ten* years of development to come up with the Game Boy Advance which rivals the Atari Linx.
Seriously, the Game Boy Advance looks almost exactly as my Atari Linx.
I had an Atari Linx about ten* years ago. It had a color screen and fast enough processor for one game that had cheasy Wolfenstein type 3D graphics. Methinks Nintendo could have done better with the new Game Boy Advance.
*Editors note -- that ten years figure could be way off. It sure *feels* like ten years though.
meept!
The pictures from the story link were way smaller ant took forever to load. Your link had huge pictures that loaded in less than a second.
If I was a moderator I would rate this post +6 inspired from above. Pun intendid.
Thanks.
meept!
Certainly I would need a steel rod implanted in my head to believe a libertarian government would bust up the monopolies.
Your points about economic libertarians are well taken and I believe what you say coinsides with my fellings. I believe the government needs strong social programs so that every American has a place to live, food, and good health care, and free education even if they lose every cent they have.
The reason I like libertarians however is my belief that the government has no place in regulating my business dealings. If I want to buy a CD and rip into MP3s for all my friends I should be able to. If the RIAA does not want me to do this they should have had me sign a zillion page contract saying exactly how, when, and who is allowed to listen to the music on that CD. They could even put some teeth into the contract threatening to never sell me another CD if I violate their contract.
meept!
Well, the reason I consider mega-corps communist is because of their sheer size and the way they do business. A capitalist busines, in my mind, is a small and fast moving company that competes with many other small and fast moving companies to sell the best product possable at the lowest cost possable in order to still make a profit. On the other hand, I see mega-corps as a rigidly structured self contained government. Products are often controlled through litigation to create or maintain a monopoly or an oligarchy. Employees are cared for in every manner by the company (insurance, child care, predictable salary not based on skill). Also mega-corps are given state financial assistance in the form of very low cost loans, grants, corporate welvare, government surplus purchasing programs, etc. These corporations far closer resemble the state run "businesses" of communist China than they do the capitalist ideal stated above.
meept!
56K you say...methinks you mean 56k notice the case of the 'k'. A 20K connection is 160k. On the flip side a 56k modem has a theoretical speed of 7K but that speed is limited even further by the FCC/Line noise etc.
meept!
I feel like such a clod. I've been rooting for Al Gore all this time because I think George W. Bush is way worse.
I tell people around me to vote for anybody except for the big two parties just to send the message that there is unrest about the way things are.
Now I have a good recommendation. Thanks.
BTW: (obligitory on topic message so I dont get modded to blackest hell) The huge Mega-Corps like Microsoft an oligarchys like RIAA and MPAA would not be able to survive a libertarian government because their kingdoms are won and protected by an overbearing government. Going libertarian will bring the Constitution back to power.
Let us reclaim this great country and strike down government support of the god-less comunist Mega-Corps!
meept!
They use the standard configure/mame all/make install. Just write a little shell script to compile all the packages. Switch to Virtual Console 6, set everything to run with maximum niceness, and let er rip. Then just go back to your desktop while waiting for everything to compile and pretend the beta comes out tommorow.
Or, get SuSE. You can't beat those crazy German engineers. Every RPM works every time for me.
meept!
Hey, I wrote the parent of this message and it got marked as Anonymous Coward.
What Gives?
meept!
I have a computer. I have a DVD drive. I bought several DVDs and returned them all because they were broken (CSSed) I will not buy any DVDs untill they work in Linux.
meept!
Here's my copy...
Click here to Get a Linux DVD player.
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