Something like $1 Billion (with a B, thats 10^ 9 for our British friends), to replace all those bad 820 motherboards, I don't think that old $182 million investment is looking very good right now.
Even so, I still don't see why the Doc has such a hard on for Intel over this. He makes this sound like a big consipiracy. There is nothing illegal or unethical about this sort of arrangement.
Huh? A judge ruling that you can control who has access to private property (which ebay's web servers are) is scary???
If someone told you that you couldn't control who comes into your house or business that would be scary. This isn't scary, its the only rational and correct decision in this case.
Not only do you make that wonderfully stupid analogy of copyright infringement being equivalent to real property theft,
The law treats it as such. I think its a perfectly valid analogy to make.
but you then try to imply that logic is on your side when you suggest that a person would be likely to own the same number of cars as CD's.
I implied no such thing. Work on your reading comprehension. I suggested only that if you steal something, you have very little incentive to buy it. People such as yourself point out all the time "Sure, I steal music all the time with Napster, then go out and buy it". I just pointed out how silly this statement is if you replace CD with, well, anything else.
I've bought more CD's in the past year than I did the year before, although I may have bought fewer at stores near the University.
Well, one data point is not really that useful, but thanks for sharing.
I have purchased albums after downloading and listening to mp3's,
Lets see, Napster has around 4.5 million users. Lets say the average Napster user downloads 1 song / week. If they did that there would be an increase of CD sales of 234 Million (and 1 song / week is incredibly, incredibly conservative). Since we don't see this, I think we can conclude your "People just go ahead and buy what they d/l on Napster" theory incorrect. QED.
Becuase logic dictates that thieves don't buy the product.
I mean hell, if someone steals a car you don't expect them to show up at the dealership a few days later saying "wow, I just stole this great car, and I liked it so much I want to buy one".
Looks to me like you can't draw any conclusions from these numbers. Sales may have been even higher without all those people out there stealing music on Napster.
So you are saying that people who own servers shouldn't have the right to put stuff on them or take it off as they see fit for whatever reason they want?
Ofcourse, if you look at recent events in the US in regards to the WTO meetings and the way the protestors were handled... perhaps we're not much different than China...
Yeah, I thought it was great when all those tanks rolled into Seattle and killed those stupid WTO protesters. Oh, wait, that didn't happen.
Come back to reality sometime, you might like it here.
). Nor are we any less censor-prone--try to find NAMBLA's web page...hen-pecked out of existence due to false allegations and innuendo. Yeah, everyone realizes that they're disgusting freaks, but disgusting freaks have a right to express their opinions, as well (or so we thought).
And people who own web servers have every right to carry or not carry certain information. NAMBLA was hardly censored.
I'd much rather have a 400 Mhz cpu with a 400 Mhz bus then a 1.5 Ghz box sitting over a 133 Mhz bus.
Like everything else in life, it depends.
If you are doing something computationally intensive but over a small set of data (like say brute force decryption), I'd take the 1.5 Ghz on a 133 bus over the 400 Mhz CPU / Bus combo any day of the week. If you are running a word processor or something, I'd take this too..
If you are setting up a render farm for high quality animation, you'd probably take the 400/400 option... or compiling kernals all day...
Come on guys, break out the usual excuses for IP theft:
1) Those models don't really get that much money from the magazine, they make up for it by dancing live or giving lap dances or whatever 2) Theres only a few good pages in every issue of Penthouse, why do they make me buy all those pages I'm not interested in (like the ones with words on them) 3) The porn industry is controlled by the major players and they keep the prices too high anyway...
Despite a study that seems to show naspter actually INCREASED cd sales?
Oh please, quit speading FUD. All those numbers show is that CD sales increased from one year to the next... nothing about the effect of Napster. In all likelyhood sales would have increased even more if it wasn't for people stealing music with Napster.
How the hell can you say/. didn't post the comment? Its sitting on their hard drive right now, being published by their http server. Sounds like publishing to me.
Isn't anyone else concerned about the number of recent security holes in M$ software? I have nothing to say, because I just don't use M$ crap, but why aren't there any public outrages against M$? I find it funny that the public just accepts these bugs as normal.
You know why this happens? Becuase programming is hard. Bitching and moaning about bugs won't change this fact.
What else is this Assistant doing? Perhaps it's logging keystrokes and sending them to Redmond. Perhaps it's analyzing user traffic and building a profile.
I suspect that MS is using the Assistant and other Office "features" to create extensive profiles on users around the world, for who knows what use in its own nefarious schemes. Perhaps that is why they seem openly contemptuous of the DoJ--they have the goods on Reno and her crowd and will use them when the time seems right.
You could use a packet sniffer to find out if your theory is correct or not. Then again, withaout a boogie man behind every corner, you may be forced to realize that your just a common run of the mill paranoid and have to go become a useful member of soceity.
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Something like $1 Billion (with a B, thats 10^ 9 for our British friends), to replace all those bad 820 motherboards, I don't think that old $182 million investment is looking very good right now.
Even so, I still don't see why the Doc has such a hard on for Intel over this. He makes this sound like a big consipiracy. There is nothing illegal or unethical about this sort of arrangement.
Starfleet comes down on my ass about the "Prime Directive"...
Huh? A judge ruling that you can control who has access to private property (which ebay's web servers are) is scary???
If someone told you that you couldn't control who comes into your house or business that would be scary. This isn't scary, its the only rational and correct decision in this case.
Not only do you make that wonderfully stupid analogy of copyright infringement being equivalent to real property theft,
The law treats it as such. I think its a perfectly valid analogy to make.
but you then try to imply that logic is on your side when you suggest that a person would be likely to own the same number of cars as CD's.
I implied no such thing. Work on your reading comprehension. I suggested only that if you steal something, you have very little incentive to buy it. People such as yourself point out all the time "Sure, I steal music all the time with Napster, then go out and buy it". I just pointed out how silly this statement is if you replace CD with, well, anything else.
I've bought more CD's in the past year than I did the year before, although I may have bought fewer at stores near the University.
Well, one data point is not really that useful, but thanks for sharing.
I have purchased albums after downloading and listening to mp3's,
Lets see, Napster has around 4.5 million users. Lets say the average Napster user downloads 1 song / week. If they did that there would be an increase of CD sales of 234 Million (and 1 song / week is incredibly, incredibly conservative). Since we don't see this, I think we can conclude your "People just go ahead and buy what they d/l on Napster" theory incorrect. QED.
I'm sure the concept that a word can have more than one possible meaning just blows your fucking mind, doesn't it?
If you are so concerned about the right thing to do (tm), then why are you stealing things in the first place?
Becuase logic dictates that thieves don't buy the product.
I mean hell, if someone steals a car you don't expect them to show up at the dealership a few days later saying "wow, I just stole this great car, and I liked it so much I want to buy one".
Why would music be any different?
The company's remaining assets will undoubtedly be sold off (including their IP) and the proceeds given to the company's stakeholders. Moron.
Looks to me like you can't draw any conclusions from these numbers. Sales may have been even higher without all those people out there stealing music on Napster.
So you are saying that people who own servers shouldn't have the right to put stuff on them or take it off as they see fit for whatever reason they want?
Funny idea of freedom you have there...
Ofcourse, if you look at recent events in the US in regards to the WTO meetings and the way the protestors were handled... perhaps we're not much different than China...
Yeah, I thought it was great when all those tanks rolled into Seattle and killed those stupid WTO protesters. Oh, wait, that didn't happen.
Come back to reality sometime, you might like it here.
). Nor are we any less censor-prone--try to find NAMBLA's web page...hen-pecked out of existence due to false allegations and innuendo. Yeah, everyone realizes that they're disgusting freaks, but disgusting freaks have a right to express their opinions, as well (or so we thought).
And people who own web servers have every right to carry or not carry certain information. NAMBLA was hardly censored.
Thank you for marking this as flamebait Mr Moderator out there.
/. groupthink. I will adjust my thinking accordingly, so that I conform to the group. God forbid we have any opposing viewpoints.
/. should just have buttons after each story where everyone clicks "I Agree", "Free Software Rules, etc..."
It is not the proper
In fact,
I'd much rather have a 400 Mhz cpu with a 400 Mhz bus then a 1.5 Ghz box sitting over a 133 Mhz bus.
Like everything else in life, it depends.
If you are doing something computationally intensive but over a small set of data (like say brute force decryption), I'd take the 1.5 Ghz on a 133 bus over the 400 Mhz CPU / Bus combo any day of the week. If you are running a word processor or something, I'd take this too..
If you are setting up a render farm for high quality animation, you'd probably take the 400/400 option... or compiling kernals all day...
Come on guys, break out the usual excuses for IP theft:
1) Those models don't really get that much money from the magazine, they make up for it by dancing live or giving lap dances or whatever
2) Theres only a few good pages in every issue of Penthouse, why do they make me buy all those pages I'm not interested in (like the ones with words on them)
3) The porn industry is controlled by the major players and they keep the prices too high anyway...
etc.. etc... etc...
Despite a study that seems to show naspter actually INCREASED cd sales?
Oh please, quit speading FUD. All those numbers show is that CD sales increased from one year to the next... nothing about the effect of Napster. In all likelyhood sales would have increased even more if it wasn't for people stealing music with Napster.
How the hell can you say /. didn't post the comment? Its sitting on their hard drive right now, being published by their http server. Sounds like publishing to me.
...your Shareholders should be suing you after this as well, for wasting the company's money on a case like this when you are so clearly in the wrong.
Hey, if you want to waste your money re-inventing the wheel, go right ahead.
We're funding development efforts with the MySQL team to add database replication and rollback capabilities to MySQL
Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to just use a real database? Oracle makes a nice one that runs under Linux.
The Nazi's were democratically elected too...
Why does no one realize that skin color and national origin really do not matter?
Because they do matter.
Isn't anyone else concerned about the number of recent security holes in M$ software? I have nothing to say, because I just don't use M$ crap, but why aren't there any public outrages against M$? I find it funny that the public just accepts these bugs as normal.
You know why this happens? Becuase programming is hard. Bitching and moaning about bugs won't change this fact.
But it appears that MS is relying on the general public to act as its beta testers
As opposed to Linux?????
What else is this Assistant doing? Perhaps it's logging keystrokes and sending them to Redmond. Perhaps it's analyzing user traffic and building a profile.
I suspect that MS is using the Assistant and other Office "features" to create extensive profiles on users around the world, for who knows what use in its own nefarious schemes. Perhaps that is why they seem openly contemptuous of the DoJ--they have the goods on Reno and her crowd and will use them when the time seems right.
You could use a packet sniffer to find out if your theory is correct or not. Then again, withaout a boogie man behind every corner, you may be forced to realize that your just a common run of the mill paranoid and have to go become a useful member of soceity.