But that argument's bullshit on its face. By that argument all income has been hojillion-dipped because my income paid your company's income paid your income paid walmart's income paid some old fart's income paid some geriatric ward's income paid...
Unless, of course, you want to revisit corporate personhood and make the companies in that chain into something other than the people in the chain. Then you might have my ear. Otherwise, it's people all the way down.
Target has done that, but right now they're spinning their wheels on bullshit.
I can get Archer Farms chips in better flavors at a cheaper price than any brand name on sale and most store brands around here, and sometimes their chips are on sale. Their trail mix is either awesome or cheap (boring nuts and m&ms are about half the price as store brand at the grocery. Cranberry&blueberry&apricot crunch costs more, but you can't get that anywhere else except maybe whole foods where it probably costs more). If they could replicate that (more options at a lower price) in fields other than junk foods, they'd easily walk all over everyone else.
Instead, the Target near me seems desperate to sell me bananas, at a per-banana instead of a per-pound price. When they go out of business, I'll miss those kettle-cooked potato chips.
All you have said is that if a market moves away from freedom, and toward manipulation and rights violation, then those who are able to control the manipulation will benefit in the short-term. Of course that is the case. What is your point?
Find yourself a world where nobody cares about short term benefit, and you can have your paradise. Until then, Sisyphus had it easy, he just had to fight gravity. You, on the other hand, have everyone else trying to push your boulder back down the hill.
Pfft. Views on whistleblowers are always interesting in every field.
Take, for instance, that football coach that was just following the command structure when he passed the kiddie rape info up to the next guy. Suddenly he should have been a whistleblower "for the children!"
Even odds that a randomly selected person who thinks he should have "done more" also thinks that just about every other person out there shouldn't "pull rank" or "buck the command structure" or "blow the whistle". You get the culture you deserve.
This needs to be +50, because neither the R's nor the D's understand it and continue to make serious policy decisions based on their misunderstanding that will affect us all.
Their have been instances of faulty drilling techniques being employed (bad casing cement seals) that have allowed drilling fluids to leak up the well bore and into surface waters.
We're already seeing where things are heading this way just with water. People are pumping antifreeze up from their water wells, and the oil/gas companies pumping god knows what down there insist it isn't their fault. How do you figure out who to sue? When you can't even force the companies to tell you what they're pumping down, how can you prove that what you're pumping up came from them and not some long closed auto shop that for all anyone knows dumped barrels of whatever in the yard decades ago and it just now got down to the water table?
Why does the government have to provide water to the people of Dimock, PA? Oh wait, that's right, the government said that Cabot didn't have to fix the problem, they just had to give them some water for a few years. Imagine, if only the government hadn't been there to make Cabot do anything at all!
The air? How would you even begin to figure out who caused the pollution that gave you lung cancer? It's bad enough WITH government "regulation" where companies have to "self-report" their "accidental" benzene releases.
If you follow the creek back a little ways towards the packing plant, just south of the power line there's a round something in the field near the trees where the creek turns dark, here. It's pretty large (as wide as the truck that left the tire tracks around it)... I wonder what it could be? I looked around at the other fields near there but didn't see anything like that.
What you need instead is a hidden volume. The idea is you have a normal OS and a hidden OS where your dirty secrets reside. You are prompted for a password at boot time and the password you enter determines which volume is booted into.
What you need instead is two hidden volumes. The idea being that when you decrypt the normal OS with a tool that supports a hidden volume and people find it squeaky clean, they'll tell you "ha ha now tell us the other password" so you have a hidden OS where your porn resides, and a hidden OS where your dirty secrets reside. Ad nauseum depending on how nauseous your dirty secrets are.
I'm not claiming that there's any nightmare world, I'm simply claiming that the free market is like a game where the first person to quit wins. Eventually someone will play the regulatory capture card they were keeping up their sleeve for the big bucks, the only question is how fast the card table will fall down when the fat cats playing around it all try to slam down their ace of spades first.
Sure they can. Hypocrisy means "not doing what they say", not "not doing what you say". If they say "I am comfortable with government intervention up to this level" and then complain about government intervention over that level, they are not a hypocrite just because your level of comfort is different than theirs.
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were already subjected to corprate income taxes.
But that argument's bullshit on its face. By that argument all income has been hojillion-dipped because my income paid your company's income paid your income paid walmart's income paid some old fart's income paid some geriatric ward's income paid...
Unless, of course, you want to revisit corporate personhood and make the companies in that chain into something other than the people in the chain. Then you might have my ear. Otherwise, it's people all the way down.
nobody's torso is in the same place that it was when the trigger was pulled.
As long as the guy with the laser can keep the laser on you, that's not going to help a lot.
and base 10 has it's own flaws: one of which is Pi. Pi, in base 10, cannot ever be calculated out.
I've solved that by switching to base Pi!
Of course, I'm still working out how to write 10...
If Target can do this, more power to 'em.
Target has done that, but right now they're spinning their wheels on bullshit.
I can get Archer Farms chips in better flavors at a cheaper price than any brand name on sale and most store brands around here, and sometimes their chips are on sale. Their trail mix is either awesome or cheap (boring nuts and m&ms are about half the price as store brand at the grocery. Cranberry&blueberry&apricot crunch costs more, but you can't get that anywhere else except maybe whole foods where it probably costs more). If they could replicate that (more options at a lower price) in fields other than junk foods, they'd easily walk all over everyone else.
Instead, the Target near me seems desperate to sell me bananas, at a per-banana instead of a per-pound price. When they go out of business, I'll miss those kettle-cooked potato chips.
"backups" mean you use multiple companies.
Like filesonic, fileserve...
and then fail to pay my mortgage
Did you fail to pay your mortgage because you blew all your cash on hookers and blow, or did someone come along and take all your money at gunpoint?
All you have said is that if a market moves away from freedom, and toward manipulation and rights violation, then those who are able to control the manipulation will benefit in the short-term. Of course that is the case. What is your point?
Find yourself a world where nobody cares about short term benefit, and you can have your paradise. Until then, Sisyphus had it easy, he just had to fight gravity. You, on the other hand, have everyone else trying to push your boulder back down the hill.
Pfft. Views on whistleblowers are always interesting in every field.
Take, for instance, that football coach that was just following the command structure when he passed the kiddie rape info up to the next guy. Suddenly he should have been a whistleblower "for the children!"
Even odds that a randomly selected person who thinks he should have "done more" also thinks that just about every other person out there shouldn't "pull rank" or "buck the command structure" or "blow the whistle". You get the culture you deserve.
health care != health insurance
This needs to be +50, because neither the R's nor the D's understand it and continue to make serious policy decisions based on their misunderstanding that will affect us all.
then the market stops being a free market.
The first ones to quit get to create the regulatory agencies and win.
I did a little looking around and can't find any instance of anyone pumping antifreeze up from their well.
Try harder:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/19/dimock-pennsylvania-epa-_n_1217422.html
Their have been instances of faulty drilling techniques being employed (bad casing cement seals) that have allowed drilling fluids to leak up the well bore and into surface waters.
This was apparently found to be the case for Cabot's wells in Dimock: http://www.lhup.edu/rmyers3/marcellus.htm (among others).
But they can sue if the plant increases the pollution.
Only if it knocks on the door and says "Hi! I'm increased pollution from the coal plant next door".
We're already seeing where things are heading this way just with water. People are pumping antifreeze up from their water wells, and the oil/gas companies pumping god knows what down there insist it isn't their fault. How do you figure out who to sue? When you can't even force the companies to tell you what they're pumping down, how can you prove that what you're pumping up came from them and not some long closed auto shop that for all anyone knows dumped barrels of whatever in the yard decades ago and it just now got down to the water table?
Why does the government have to provide water to the people of Dimock, PA? Oh wait, that's right, the government said that Cabot didn't have to fix the problem, they just had to give them some water for a few years. Imagine, if only the government hadn't been there to make Cabot do anything at all!
The air? How would you even begin to figure out who caused the pollution that gave you lung cancer? It's bad enough WITH government "regulation" where companies have to "self-report" their "accidental" benzene releases.
If you follow the creek back a little ways towards the packing plant, just south of the power line there's a round something in the field near the trees where the creek turns dark, here. It's pretty large (as wide as the truck that left the tire tracks around it)... I wonder what it could be? I looked around at the other fields near there but didn't see anything like that.
Except for the ones created by the first people to scream "think of the children!" and throw their money at the problem.
Which is sort of how we lost lawn darts the first time around, I believe.
The real question is: how much money did all the lawsuits (winning or not) cost the competitors?
Basically the white collar equivalent of arresting someone for resisting arrest.
What you need instead is a hidden volume. The idea is you have a normal OS and a hidden OS where your dirty secrets reside. You are prompted for a password at boot time and the password you enter determines which volume is booted into.
What you need instead is two hidden volumes. The idea being that when you decrypt the normal OS with a tool that supports a hidden volume and people find it squeaky clean, they'll tell you "ha ha now tell us the other password" so you have a hidden OS where your porn resides, and a hidden OS where your dirty secrets reside. Ad nauseum depending on how nauseous your dirty secrets are.
I'm not claiming that there's any nightmare world, I'm simply claiming that the free market is like a game where the first person to quit wins. Eventually someone will play the regulatory capture card they were keeping up their sleeve for the big bucks, the only question is how fast the card table will fall down when the fat cats playing around it all try to slam down their ace of spades first.
when the excuse was always "child porn"? You don't hear it as much recently because they have the magic word "terrorist" to brut about now
Nah, they just shout loudly about terrorism to distract you while they quietly pass the "think of the children" laws like the "Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011"
Do you know how much we SAVE every year paying women only .71-.76 cents for every dollar a man makes
Except now we're getting equality again because the companies are saving by paying men only .71-.76 what they used to.
The extent to which people do not strive for that ideal, they will see the negative consequences of their actions
The extent to which people do not strive for that ideal, they get to enjoy the befits of others' work while keeping the benefits of their betrayal.
Oh sure, it will catch up eventually, but by then they'll have taken their golden parachute and it will be someone else's problem.
we blow horrible amounts of cash on unnecessary (read CYA for lawsuits) tests
And in Texas, we got tort reform and discovered what's really going on is that "we blow horrible amounts of cash on unnecessary (read doctor gets paid per test) tests" http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/06/01/090601fa_fact_gawande
I think you may have missed this story [slashdot.org] and this story [slashdot.org]. Note that those were both posted by Slashdot poobahs.
And after half a day they're still the only stories posted so far.
not be a hypocrite at the same time
Sure they can. Hypocrisy means "not doing what they say", not "not doing what you say". If they say "I am comfortable with government intervention up to this level" and then complain about government intervention over that level, they are not a hypocrite just because your level of comfort is different than theirs.