well they were predicting climit changes that wouldn't happen for another 25-50 years, but those predictions are here today.
the predictions were "worst case" "nightmarish" type stuff.
I'm referring to the climate change we are just starting to see now, in europe and other places. Ok, it's hot enough in germany, england and bavaria that the train tracks are actually WARPING.
Uhm.... hello? its time to wake up people, the planet is fucked. What I mean is, sure, if we stopped "today" in about a decade it would start to revert to normal.
But we're not about to stop polluting "today" are we? Nor are we likely to tomorrow, next month, next year, a decade from now, or maybe even 50 or so years in the future.
It was 42 degrees in spain yesterday, 40 degrees in england, 41 in bavaria (when I checked the numbers anyhow). And in my home town it was 38 degrees (ontario), dont believe what they told you, I was watching the digital thermometer (so I cant spell), and yes, it did get that hot.
the point is, if we are NOW where the "worst case" predictions said we wouldnt be for another 30-50 years, then where do you suppose we will actually be in 20-50 years ? hrm? how about majorly fucked?
I mean, if we have seen a literal 5-10 degree change in areas we know (and the summers not over yet folks) then in 20-50 years, I'd say we probably see another 10-15 degree (or 20) change. so in 20 years we'll be at 52 degrees in spain, 50 degrees in england, and my home town will be at 48. what does that say about the rest of the ecology ?
not that it matters folks, because by then the powers that be will have fucked the economy and we'll all be out of work. the next shift is likely to make the crash of 29 look like a sunday picnic. Oh yeah, 29 was the US fault too, way to go. we can all thank Mr. Bush...
we could really use an alien invasion some time soon, worst case at least some of us would have a chance to get off this rock before its too late...
Y'know small claims court is only $45. I'm sure some of the/.ers can afford that. Why don't some of us sue them for extortion? I'm sure some of the developers here would have something to lose if this nonsense continues much longer.
SCO should be suing DirecTV right about now (or at least soon). Why is this post on topic? well, DTV has two units, the Tivo and the UTV, both of which run Linux. so DTV is "pirating" SCOs software (cough).
bah to those who can't see the humor in the above, but at least it's nice to see them finally get under fire from someone.
I know many people who are legit smartcard developers, some for RSA, some for microsoft, etc, who all get letters from DTV about lawsuits. What the hell is this all about?
Heck, there's a guy in town running a photocopy center (you know the kind) using smartcard technology who's getting sued.... Uhm... what the hell?
btw dtv has lost a few of the suits lately, seems some of the judges are starting to get pissed off about their antics.
I've been using a slightly altered method for years, and been talking about it in mailing lists, various groups, etc, but no one seems to pay attention, even though it works really really well- take your spam, filter through it for all domains and IPs, and dump them into two sorted lists. one for domains, one for IPs. the IPs get routed to the bitbucket, and the domains get added to your own personal RBL-type list. Or you can do the RBL type thing with both, whatever turns your crank.
what I do is take the IPs, make them/24s (class-c's) and route them to the bitbucket. No more spam from that entire net, ever. I have over 29000 class-c's blocked right now.
yes, I heard all the whiners complain about blocking legit addresses/domains. That's what a whitelist precheck is for. and duplicates are easily eliminated when the lists are kept sorted. and to make sure legit addresses dont stay blocked, if someone complains they get added to a "do not block" list, but only individual IPs usually ever end up there. That is, you may miss one piece of mail to one user, but never again.
for over 2 years now I've been doing this, and it works well, in conjunction with bayesian filters. and I've seen every possible method talked about for eons, and the topic keeps coming up again, the same old crap retried over and over again. You do this at the ISP, like I have, and it works wonders.
bayesian is good, filters are good, but this method is much better. and the RBL type lists of your own domains/IPs are at least 10 times faster than the route to bitbucket method, and only affect mail, not ftp, web, etc...
try it, you'll like it, and your spam will eventually drop to almost nothing.
Personally there should be a place where ISPs and others share these lists. But no one does that. and that is a shame, because it'd be an incredible resource. Someone needs to setup a site to do this, I was going to but no one seemed to care...
At least in the case of cisco routers, why bother? and with that microtek crap too!
just go grab yourself a copy of Zebra, it's a fully GPL'd set of routing protocols for Linux/Unix/etc.
What, you need special ports, etc? head on over to any number of suppliers, like zynx for example (sorry it was the first one I could think of off the top of my head).
I mean, cripes, a company I knew many years ago built the worlds first wireless router using Zebra and disk on chip technology running picoBSD.
it can be done folks, and without all the cost or hassle of cisco. The only good network equipment out there (IMHO) is Foundry anyhow...
correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't SCOs claims against embedded systems include PDAs like Sony's CLIE, so on and so forth?
and doesnt this also include AMD and Intel ? for all the embedded stuff they are now into?
And doesn't it also includ the US military which uses linux embedded systems in just about everything?
and doesn't it also include George Lucas' Industrial Light and Magic (ILM), S. Speilburg productions, and Viacom who all use Linux systems (embedded and otherwise) to produce movies, shows, etc etc ?
uhm, isnt Viacom big enough to buy M$ out of petty cash ?
and lets talk real estate, dont they also use Linux? I mean, the largest firms in the world use this stuff, companies whose market caps gross bigger than most countries.
And SCO is going to try and piss them all off? they're fucking mentally unstable!
you just need one of these big guys to blink (NSA, US DOD/DND), Sony, Viacom, etc and poof, no more SCO...
Darl McBride to US DOD: "Uh, yer aware you now oh us $699 for each and every soldier on the field right?"
US DOD: "Uhm... No.... We're aware that we just saved 90% by lauching one of our cold war nukes that needed testing on your location... There will be a cheque in the mail for $10,000 for complying with this testing, unfortunately you wont be alive to collect. We're sorry for any inconvience... "
yes it was done before, but my *god* SCO is, well, beyond stupid, beyond insane, beyond sad. We need to invent a new word just to describe this new place they're in.... anyone?:)
its been said before but - they can come pry Linux from my cold dead hands...
on the other hand, I *do* own an enterprise license for SCO, with a 10 cpu license. it's about 6 years old, and I never used it (won it at a computer show), was never quite sure what to do with it (toilet paper? hrm....) but I suppose that assumes I'm safe if some moronic judge allows this silliness through (hey, I've seen a lot of silliness in the courts lately)... ugh dont get me started!
Ok, this is old and lame. SCO news is beyond sad and pathetic.
So why hasn't a decent kernel coder grabbed the SCO source distros (still out there) - if needed, and grab a similar non-SCO release and look for copyrights and code comments?
hell, couldnt we just egrep for "SCO" in the kernel code? or egrep for SCO|Unixware|Novell|Caldera|whatever ?
might take some time, but I'm sure some of the higher ups in the Linux kernel development code take a few hours, peek at the code and post something (while maybe not definitive, it might be "good enough") ?
and yes I know SCO doesn't have anything but smoke (they can't afford the mirrors any more)...
Not that I really know or understand the GPL (or even have read it), but doesn't it state somewhere that GPL products *must* include source code? and also any modification or additions to that GPL code *must* also include source code for said?
so then, if SCO does what they claim, they are therefore violating the GPL and GNU/EFF should sue them into submission...
I've been reading the posts and releases, and laughed a lot of good laughs at SCOs expense, but I haven't seen a single peep out of the GNU people (yes, there was that EFF note), but where is Mr. Richard Stallman in all this?
I dunno about the rest of you, but I personally would love to see him weigh in on this, He'd eat SCO for breakfast...
please people, wake up! can't you see it's obvious what SCO is doing? and what this is all really about? no... ok clueless ones, here's a clue for you...
after they announced the lawsuit their stock went up $10 a share, and the VP sold over 100,000 shares that day!
hello?!? Don't you get it? They don't care if they lose (and they will) that was never the point!
just like the WMD crapola in iraq (there never were any, it never was about that), it was about the oil!
all SCO wants to do is jack the stock high enough, long enough for their CEO, VPs, etc to cash out nice and RICH, and leave a burning twisted pile of rubble at the end....
they probably figured IBM (or someone - say Mr. Bill at M$) might buy them out, but either way, they're getting fat and rich off the share prices.
its a stock scam, and the securities people should be all over this!
so now you know the truth... what are ya gonna do about it?
I guess no ones been paying attention
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Sun is already "in bed" with Linux, has been for close to 2 years now. Solaris 9 is bundled with Red Hat's gnome distribution (the CD is stamped with RedHat copyright), and many other things.
It also has linuxes network threading model for tcp/ip. and some other things hidden away.
let's not forget Sun (sparc) servers have dropped to almost worthless prices. You scoff? Check ebay! I just bought an E450 loaded for $350 US ! and also got an E4500 (very nicely loaded) for under $1500. These are with warranty, certified, etc.
and to add insult to injury you need look no further than Sun's news to DUMP the sparc completely. This was months ago. So what are they doing? AMD Opteron of course!
now for some news many dont know, Sun has revealed to certain people that Solaris v10 will *BE* Linux. Well, not exactly Linux, but a conglomeration of Linux, BSD and Solaris.
yes, Sun plans to level the unix playing field and unify Unix whether people like it or not (personally I think a unified Unix is a good thing!)
Want more proof? How about the fact that Apple's OSX is actually the BSD kernel riding on top of Debian Linux ? hrmmm
I predict with all this that within 2 years (maybe less) we will see a consolidated "Linux" roll out of Sun as Solaris10 riding on AMD Opteron (64bit) platform.
This makes a lot of sense, and cuts some major costs all across the board for Sun.
well they were predicting climit changes that wouldn't happen for another 25-50 years, but those predictions are here today.
the predictions were "worst case" "nightmarish" type stuff.
I'm referring to the climate change we are just starting to see now, in europe and other places.
Ok, it's hot enough in germany, england and bavaria that the train tracks are actually WARPING.
Uhm.... hello? its time to wake up people, the planet is fucked. What I mean is, sure, if we stopped "today" in about a decade it would start to revert to normal.
But we're not about to stop polluting "today" are we? Nor are we likely to tomorrow, next month, next year, a decade from now, or maybe even 50 or so years in the future.
It was 42 degrees in spain yesterday, 40 degrees in england, 41 in bavaria (when I checked the numbers anyhow). And in my home town it was 38 degrees (ontario), dont believe what they told you, I was watching the digital thermometer (so I cant spell), and yes, it did get that hot.
the point is, if we are NOW where the "worst case" predictions said we wouldnt be for another 30-50 years, then where do you suppose we will actually be in 20-50 years ? hrm? how about majorly fucked?
I mean, if we have seen a literal 5-10 degree change in areas we know (and the summers not over yet folks) then in 20-50 years, I'd say we probably see another 10-15 degree (or 20) change. so in 20 years we'll be at 52 degrees in spain, 50 degrees in england, and my home town will be at 48. what does that say about the rest of the ecology ?
not that it matters folks, because by then the powers that be will have fucked the economy and we'll all be out of work. the next shift is likely to make the crash of 29 look like a sunday picnic. Oh yeah, 29 was the US fault too, way to go. we can all thank Mr. Bush...
we could really use an alien invasion some time soon, worst case at least some of us would have a chance to get off this rock before its too late...
Y'know small claims court is only $45. /.ers can afford that.
I'm sure some of the
Why don't some of us sue them for extortion?
I'm sure some of the developers here would have
something to lose if this nonsense continues much
longer.
-things that make you go "hmmmmmm"
SCO should be suing DirecTV right about now (or at least soon). Why is this post on topic?
well, DTV has two units, the Tivo and the UTV, both of which run Linux.
so DTV is "pirating" SCOs software (cough).
bah to those who can't see the humor in the above, but at least it's nice to see them finally get under fire from someone.
I know many people who are legit smartcard developers, some for RSA, some for microsoft, etc, who all get letters from DTV about lawsuits. What the hell is this all about?
Heck, there's a guy in town running a photocopy center (you know the kind) using smartcard technology who's getting sued.... Uhm... what the hell?
btw dtv has lost a few of the suits lately, seems some of the judges are starting to get pissed off about their antics.
I've been using a slightly altered method for years, and been talking about it in mailing lists, various groups, etc, but no one seems to pay attention, even though it works really really well-
/24s (class-c's) and route them to the bitbucket. No more spam from that entire net, ever. I have over 29000 class-c's blocked right now.
take your spam, filter through it for all domains and IPs, and dump them into two sorted lists. one for domains, one for IPs.
the IPs get routed to the bitbucket, and the domains get added to your own personal RBL-type list. Or you can do the RBL type thing with both, whatever turns your crank.
what I do is take the IPs, make them
yes, I heard all the whiners complain about blocking legit addresses/domains. That's what a whitelist precheck is for. and duplicates are easily eliminated when the lists are kept sorted.
and to make sure legit addresses dont stay blocked, if someone complains they get added to a "do not block" list, but only individual IPs usually ever end up there. That is, you may miss one piece of mail to one user, but never again.
for over 2 years now I've been doing this, and it works well, in conjunction with bayesian filters.
and I've seen every possible method talked about for eons, and the topic keeps coming up again, the same old crap retried over and over again. You do this at the ISP, like I have, and it works wonders.
bayesian is good, filters are good, but this method is much better. and the RBL type lists of your own domains/IPs are at least 10 times faster than the route to bitbucket method, and only affect mail, not ftp, web, etc...
try it, you'll like it, and your spam will eventually drop to almost nothing.
Personally there should be a place where ISPs and others share these lists. But no one does that. and that is a shame, because it'd be an incredible resource. Someone needs to setup a site to do this, I was going to but no one seemed to care...
At least in the case of cisco routers, why bother?
and with that microtek crap too!
just go grab yourself a copy of Zebra, it's a fully
GPL'd set of routing protocols for Linux/Unix/etc.
What, you need special ports, etc? head on over to any number of suppliers, like zynx for example (sorry it was the first one I could think of off the top of my head).
I mean, cripes, a company I knew many years ago built the worlds first wireless router using Zebra and disk on chip technology running picoBSD.
it can be done folks, and without all the cost or hassle of cisco. The only good network equipment out there (IMHO) is Foundry anyhow...
let see some DVD-R support, like writing images, making images, ripping, copying, all that good stuff.
still not there yet. and some svcd to dvd conversion too.
if you want to do any real video work with dvd you still need windoze for the most part. sigh...
pagemaker for linux would just rock!
correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't SCOs claims against embedded systems include PDAs like Sony's CLIE, so on and so forth?
:)
and doesnt this also include AMD and Intel ? for all the embedded stuff they are now into?
And doesn't it also includ the US military which uses linux embedded systems in just about everything?
and doesn't it also include George Lucas' Industrial Light and Magic (ILM), S. Speilburg productions, and Viacom who all use Linux systems (embedded and otherwise) to produce movies, shows, etc etc ?
uhm, isnt Viacom big enough to buy M$ out of petty cash ?
and lets talk real estate, dont they also use Linux? I mean, the largest firms in the world use this stuff, companies whose market caps gross bigger than most countries.
And SCO is going to try and piss them all off?
they're fucking mentally unstable!
you just need one of these big guys to blink (NSA, US DOD/DND), Sony, Viacom, etc and poof, no more SCO...
Darl McBride to US DOD: "Uh, yer aware you now oh us $699 for each and every soldier on the field right?"
US DOD: "Uhm... No.... We're aware that we just saved 90% by lauching one of our cold war nukes that needed testing on your location... There will be a cheque in the mail for $10,000 for complying with this testing, unfortunately you wont be alive to collect. We're sorry for any inconvience... "
yes it was done before, but my *god* SCO is, well, beyond stupid, beyond insane, beyond sad. We need to invent a new word just to describe this new place they're in.... anyone?
its been said before but - they can come pry Linux from my cold dead hands...
on the other hand, I *do* own an enterprise license for SCO, with a 10 cpu license. it's about 6 years old, and I never used it (won it at a computer show), was never quite sure what to do with it (toilet paper? hrm....) but I suppose that assumes I'm safe if some moronic judge allows this silliness through (hey, I've seen a lot of silliness in the courts lately)... ugh dont get me started!
but seriously, SCO should shut the hell up now...
Ok, this is old and lame. SCO news is beyond sad and pathetic.
So why hasn't a decent kernel coder grabbed the SCO source distros (still out there) - if needed, and grab a similar non-SCO release and look for copyrights and code comments?
hell, couldnt we just egrep for "SCO" in the kernel code? or egrep for SCO|Unixware|Novell|Caldera|whatever ?
might take some time, but I'm sure some of the higher ups in the Linux kernel development code take a few hours, peek at the code and post something (while maybe not definitive, it might be "good enough") ?
and yes I know SCO doesn't have anything but smoke (they can't afford the mirrors any more)...
not this lame crapola again?
/.ers would at least have *some* technical sense and have known about ipv8 by now...
;)
can we get the main posting modded down?
I mean, come on, we keep hearing this BS...
and BTW, ipv6 is obsolete, I thought
I mean, ipv16 is already out...
ipv6 is beyond ancient. get with the program already!
PS- I "own" a class-b, so whatcha gonna do about it?
Not that I really know or understand the GPL (or even have read it), but doesn't it state somewhere that GPL products *must* include source code? and also any modification or additions to that GPL code *must* also include source code for said?
so then, if SCO does what they claim, they are therefore violating the GPL and GNU/EFF should sue them into submission...
I've been reading the posts and releases,
and laughed a lot of good laughs at SCOs expense,
but I haven't seen a single peep out of the GNU
people (yes, there was that EFF note), but where
is Mr. Richard Stallman in all this?
I dunno about the rest of you, but I personally would love to see him weigh in on this,
He'd eat SCO for breakfast...
please people, wake up!
can't you see it's obvious what SCO is doing?
and what this is all really about?
no... ok clueless ones, here's a clue for you...
after they announced the lawsuit their stock went up $10 a share, and the VP sold over 100,000 shares that day!
hello?!? Don't you get it? They don't care if they lose (and they will) that was never the point!
just like the WMD crapola in iraq (there never were any, it never was about that), it was about the oil!
all SCO wants to do is jack the stock high enough, long enough for their CEO, VPs, etc to cash out nice and RICH, and leave a burning twisted pile of rubble at the end....
they probably figured IBM (or someone - say Mr. Bill at M$) might buy them out, but either way, they're getting fat and rich off the share prices.
its a stock scam, and the securities people should be all over this!
so now you know the truth... what are ya gonna do about it?
Sun is already "in bed" with Linux, has been for close to 2 years now.
Solaris 9 is bundled with Red Hat's gnome distribution (the CD is stamped with RedHat copyright), and many other things.
It also has linuxes network threading model for tcp/ip. and some other things hidden away.
let's not forget Sun (sparc) servers have dropped to almost worthless prices. You scoff? Check ebay! I just bought an E450 loaded for $350 US !
and also got an E4500 (very nicely loaded) for under $1500. These are with warranty, certified, etc.
and to add insult to injury you need look no further than Sun's news to DUMP the sparc completely. This was months ago. So what are they doing? AMD Opteron of course!
now for some news many dont know, Sun has revealed to certain people that Solaris v10 will *BE* Linux. Well, not exactly Linux, but a conglomeration of Linux, BSD and Solaris.
yes, Sun plans to level the unix playing field and unify Unix whether people like it or not (personally I think a unified Unix is a good thing!)
Want more proof? How about the fact that Apple's OSX is actually the BSD kernel riding on top of Debian Linux ? hrmmm
I predict with all this that within 2 years (maybe less) we will see a consolidated "Linux" roll out of Sun as Solaris10 riding on AMD Opteron (64bit) platform.
This makes a lot of sense, and cuts some major costs all across the board for Sun.
what, have you people been sleeping under a rock?
IPV6 is dead. and takes too much overhead and work and cost to get done.
you could have had a v8, IPV8 that is.
not only is it more compatible with ipv4, it tunnels really nicely, and all you need is a cheap gateway.
and yes, you can have ipv4ipv8 without a v6 getting in the way...
My "class-c" ipv8 address space has more addresses than comprise the entire net!
where is the EFF (aka Richard Stallman) in all this?
I haven't heard a peep about this group and these regards.
I figure someone big enough should just sue SCO out of existance so we can get on with our lives....
But I will say, this has been the most entertaining fun I've had in months....