who says anything about the spam-bombers trying every permutation possible? You say it yourself that they will append numbers to the end of addresses, and neither of us know grandma's address - only that it was attacked, and it included at least 1 number.
For all you know, it could be asmith1@...
I'm sure yahoo, hotmail do let people see your email accounts - my hotmail is spammed and I only signed up to use it in messenger. However, I missed the 'dont show my address in the directory' option, so I can't blame anyone else, even MS.
The reason I thought it was a troll is the way it was worded - along the usual lines of 'MS crap, add some techie stuff, infer that MS is bad'. Now, what in his message made you think that he wasn't trolling? How exactly can you tell?
1) no-one cares about spam that comes from a valid email address - you can always reply and say 'no thanks', or block it and guarantee its blocked.
2) your grandmother got hit with a bruite force attack - if you read the recent/. article about where spam comes from, the testers received emails to a@doamin.com, aa@domain.com, aaa@domain.com etc etc. So, she had an account with numbers in it - the spammers don't care - they set the email generator programs running and walk away. eventually they're going to generate a valid address.
maybe because beowulf clusters are rubbish compared to big web-distributed computing projects.
Plans to/. to world.... its a 'killer app', but not in the sense that most people understand it;-)
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go back to high school, do not pass go, do not collect £200:-)
Voltage is just the 'speed' the current 'flows' at - power consumption is measured in Watts, or voltage multiplied by amperage (the 'amount' of current)
go for it - but get Dougal and the Blue Cat video first.
I think a 'about what?' answer is fine - after all, he's really saying 'you're talking shite, be more specific and stop mucking me about', which is, after all, what we'd be doing to him and that is a perfectly reasonable and intelligent response. The trick is to ask a question that is just as meaningless but that doesn't have the benefit of such a 'pre-packaged' glib answer.
You go for it in interview, but remember it's not a trick to catch him out, you're not asking it to be cruel.
I asked 'Whos Best?' as a interview question - I was looking to see how the candidate would react to quite a nonsensical question (though if you've seen Dougal and the Blue Cat, you'll know the answer).
Naturally there was no answer that was right - anything would do for me, and some people made something up, but 1 chap (a techie) completely lost it there - he just sat there with an expression of 'does not compute' on his face. He didn't get hired, but mainly because my boss at the time was in the habit of asking us to do completely useless and totally irrelevant tasks. If he didn't have the flexibility to cope with that question, no way would he have coped with my boss.
So, yeah, there are so many questions that are asked in interview where the interviewer doesn't care about a right answer - its *always* how you think, react and interact.
I don't believe I got that wrong - and I used a calculator too. just goes to show (the UK politicians) that mental arithmetic is a skill that really needs to be used. d'uh.
oh well, 24 is about right for me though nowadays.
at least we get a new spam story from/. - shame it wasn't the one posted by the editor.
I liked the quote from AOL: America Online says the amount of spam aimed at its 35 million customers has doubled since the year started and now approaches 2 billion messages a day, more than 70 percent of the mail its users receive.
I make that 2000 spam messages per user per day! (even if you use the American Billion, and not the British).
Thank god for ISP filters, I don't quite feel so bad about the 20 or so I get per day now. (not that I use AOL, so I don't know if those spams get through to their users).
There are plenty of other ways to 'riase the awareness of our displeasure' than resorting to such immature and petty actions as encouraging what is in effect a hate campaign against those guys.
Sure, you think you have a valid complaint against them from their initial response, but your next step should have been to contact the press and community sites to bring the issue into the public domain.
I wonder that you didn't do that either because you thought the community would agree with the Mozilla group, or because the ability to start the hate-campaign was somehow 'l33t'.
you're right - I was talking about the fee going to the music industry, not the ISPs, just that currently I pay a bit more and I am not bothered by it - as are all the other people paying the extra too. My point is that the business model for the fee works.
If an ISP can charge more for filesharing users, ($1 to music industry.. $1 for me) and will attract more subscribers, then they'd be very happy. I doubt that all the filesharers will stop their addiction at all, they'll winge, but pay up.
If they worry about the amount of bandwidth used, they can still implement download maximums, even if its 1Gig a day (people *still* complain about even that level!!).
Another benefit is that if P2P is legal, and more people start using it, then all the other (currently legal) reasons for using it will become mainstream.
46000, perhaps that's the number of complaints against this one email this spammer sent out. They couldn't charge him with spamming emails sent by others now could they?.
Perhaps the lesson here is to send all spam to the FTC, and keep sending everything you receive until their mail servers explode.
in the UK at least, we pay a additional fee whenever we buy blank cassettes, either music or video, that go to support the music industry from 'illegal' copying onto them.
Charging ISPs would just be a continuation of this system which I think, no-one has an issue with. ISPs can (and do) block filesharing ports so they could even charge only those users using them.
I agree thugh, that once you've paid this fee, all content should be freely available.
for filesharing - my ISP has 2 offerings for ADSL - a cheaper version where filesharing and other ports are blocked, and a more expensive version (10% more) that has various other services and filesharing enabled.
So.. in effect, I am already paying a fee to share files. I have no problem with this - in the UK at least, some ISPs are putting limits on bandwidth usage to stop people sucking up everything they can see continuously, my ISPs way of reducing bandwidth usage is to make us pay slightly more for a better service (or slightly less for the basic service). I should point out that the basic service is cheaper than nearly all the other UK ISPs.
Charging a small fee to the ISPs who allow filesharing would just see the services my ISP offers being offered by other ISPs. No doubt some people will still complain about having to pay an extra $2 a month...
I doubt that all acting will be performed by virtual Schwartzeneggers (or any acting for that matter - read that how you like;-)
I think that, newscasters aside, the acting unions will start to jump up and down in a very agitated manner when a virtual actor starts replacing real life actors.. not to mention that the live actor who was copied will expect huge payments for use of his image (or his estate will). When vested interests start to think they will lose money, there'll be all hell breaking loose - and we'll probably end up with real actors playing alongside 1 or 2 animated add-ons - think Jar-Jar or Gollum, or with virtual copies of the playing actor in only a few scenes (instead of a stunt double).
not funny at all, think from an AOL marketing person's point of view - if they sent out CD-RWs, people wouldn't just bin them, they'd keep them and every tme they reused them, they see the AOL logo. Over and over again, instead of the current system where they see it once - on its way to the bin.
Someone should point this out to AOL's marketing dept. (just don't tell them you can slap a blank label over the top, ok).
it isn't just 'frags fer j00', or fps running your favourite first-person shooter. As the CPU ability increases, the quality of the graphics increases too. Compare the old Wing Commander series (you know, the one that persuaded people to upgrade to a 486) with the latest version Freelancer..
It won't be that long before we have game that have realistic-looking characters, and people will want to play it, even if it is on a console rather than your PC. Games developers will always want to put in more features, it sells more games after all.
There is another attitude you could take WRT ever faster CPUs - the old, obsolete ones just get cheaper and cheaper. I'm thinking of upgrading to a 1.2Ghz duron because they now cost so little.
well don't spend it all at once. If they're paying well over market rates they could end up in financial difficulties and then... you're left with your savings.
embedded systems programming is where its at at the moment though - but you either get horrible large engineering firms that wouldn't know a UI if it bit them, and small startups that think they can make a fortune writing GPS-type apps.
He does have a point, I think at least the/. editors need a "you've DOS'd someone's server" notification so they can remove the link from the posted article. Either that or/. really should start caching pages that are linked to.
nobody knew how to get rid of spam once upon a time. Just because you now know, doesn't mean that the rest of the population knows. The articles should stay for as long as there's a problem. If you have an issue with this, save the bandwidth by not reading them. the subject was clearly marked after all.
As reported here http://news.com.com/2100-1032-995658.html?ta g=fd_l ede1_hed
spam could start to become a problem in the workplace, to the point where you will be unable to use a company's email system for anything non work-related. If the chances of being sued by a disgruntled worker (who could sign himself up for the junk in the first place) exists, some people will sue, and the only way to prevent this is to make accepting such email against compamy policy.
No company can guarantee no spam will pass spam filters, so what's the chances that spam is really going to harm our day-to-day lives?
I find it remarkable when a critic of OSS comes along, there are posts like this denouncing his points, whatever they were.
In this case, I think he has a strong argument. OSS should be about makeing what you have better, not creating the same stuff from scratch. Wilst its more than acceptable to have new projects created, its not a good thing to re-invent projects that are already existing. "Make them better" should be encouraged more than "make a new project". I think SourceForge should try ways of strengthening this attitude.
It may be a troll, but its a good one - raising the awareness and discussion of OSS quality and coverage. Dont knock it because its criticising something bad (after all, 385 text editors can't be all right)
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Not bad, if only you'd take the bits about Windows out of the post - such companies will use Linux for this kind of network service.
who says anything about the spam-bombers trying every permutation possible? You say it yourself that they will append numbers to the end of addresses, and neither of us know grandma's address - only that it was attacked, and it included at least 1 number.
For all you know, it could be asmith1@...
I'm sure yahoo, hotmail do let people see your email accounts - my hotmail is spammed and I only signed up to use it in messenger. However, I missed the 'dont show my address in the directory' option, so I can't blame anyone else, even MS.
The reason I thought it was a troll is the way it was worded - along the usual lines of 'MS crap, add some techie stuff, infer that MS is bad'.
Now, what in his message made you think that he wasn't trolling? How exactly can you tell?
I'm sure tI'm feeding a troll but...
/. article about where spam comes from, the testers received emails to a@doamin.com, aa@domain.com, aaa@domain.com etc etc. So, she had an account with numbers in it - the spammers don't care - they set the email generator programs running and walk away. eventually they're going to generate a valid address.
1) no-one cares about spam that comes from a valid email address - you can always reply and say 'no thanks', or block it and guarantee its blocked.
2) your grandmother got hit with a bruite force attack - if you read the recent
So, just out of idle curiosity you understand, who were these spammers that threatened the legal action?
maybe because beowulf clusters are rubbish compared to big web-distributed computing projects.
/. to world.... its a 'killer app', but not in the sense that most people understand it ;-)
Plans to
go back to high school, do not pass go, do not collect £200 :-)
Voltage is just the 'speed' the current 'flows' at - power consumption is measured in Watts, or voltage multiplied by amperage (the 'amount' of current)
go for it - but get Dougal and the Blue Cat video first.
I think a 'about what?' answer is fine - after all, he's really saying 'you're talking shite, be more specific and stop mucking me about', which is, after all, what we'd be doing to him and that is a perfectly reasonable and intelligent response. The trick is to ask a question that is just as meaningless but that doesn't have the benefit of such a 'pre-packaged' glib answer.
You go for it in interview, but remember it's not a trick to catch him out, you're not asking it to be cruel.
I asked 'Whos Best?' as a interview question - I was looking to see how the candidate would react to quite a nonsensical question (though if you've seen Dougal and the Blue Cat, you'll know the answer).
Naturally there was no answer that was right - anything would do for me, and some people made something up, but 1 chap (a techie) completely lost it there - he just sat there with an expression of 'does not compute' on his face. He didn't get hired, but mainly because my boss at the time was in the habit of asking us to do completely useless and totally irrelevant tasks. If he didn't have the flexibility to cope with that question, no way would he have coped with my boss.
So, yeah, there are so many questions that are asked in interview where the interviewer doesn't care about a right answer - its *always* how you think, react and interact.
I don't believe I got that wrong - and I used a calculator too. just goes to show (the UK politicians) that mental arithmetic is a skill that really needs to be used. d'uh.
oh well, 24 is about right for me though nowadays.
I liked the quote from AOL: America Online says the amount of spam aimed at its 35 million customers has doubled since the year started and now approaches 2 billion messages a day, more than 70 percent of the mail its users receive. I make that 2000 spam messages per user per day! (even if you use the American Billion, and not the British).
Thank god for ISP filters, I don't quite feel so bad about the 20 or so I get per day now. (not that I use AOL, so I don't know if those spams get through to their users).
There are plenty of other ways to 'riase the awareness of our displeasure' than resorting to such immature and petty actions as encouraging what is in effect a hate campaign against those guys.
Sure, you think you have a valid complaint against them from their initial response, but your next step should have been to contact the press and community sites to bring the issue into the public domain.
I wonder that you didn't do that either because you thought the community would agree with the Mozilla group, or because the ability to start the hate-campaign was somehow 'l33t'.
surely its more useful for data you wouldn't want confiscated by the burglars.
you're right - I was talking about the fee going to the music industry, not the ISPs, just that currently I pay a bit more and I am not bothered by it - as are all the other people paying the extra too. My point is that the business model for the fee works.
If an ISP can charge more for filesharing users, ($1 to music industry.. $1 for me) and will attract more subscribers, then they'd be very happy. I doubt that all the filesharers will stop their addiction at all, they'll winge, but pay up.
If they worry about the amount of bandwidth used, they can still implement download maximums, even if its 1Gig a day (people *still* complain about even that level!!).
Another benefit is that if P2P is legal, and more people start using it, then all the other (currently legal) reasons for using it will become mainstream.
46000, perhaps that's the number of complaints against this one email this spammer sent out. They couldn't charge him with spamming emails sent by others now could they?.
Perhaps the lesson here is to send all spam to the FTC, and keep sending everything you receive until their mail servers explode.
in the UK at least, we pay a additional fee whenever we buy blank cassettes, either music or video, that go to support the music industry from 'illegal' copying onto them.
Charging ISPs would just be a continuation of this system which I think, no-one has an issue with.
ISPs can (and do) block filesharing ports so they could even charge only those users using them.
I agree thugh, that once you've paid this fee, all content should be freely available.
So.. in effect, I am already paying a fee to share files. I have no problem with this - in the UK at least, some ISPs are putting limits on bandwidth usage to stop people sucking up everything they can see continuously, my ISPs way of reducing bandwidth usage is to make us pay slightly more for a better service (or slightly less for the basic service). I should point out that the basic service is cheaper than nearly all the other UK ISPs.
Charging a small fee to the ISPs who allow filesharing would just see the services my ISP offers being offered by other ISPs. No doubt some people will still complain about having to pay an extra $2 a month...
my ISP - PlusNet
I doubt that all acting will be performed by virtual Schwartzeneggers (or any acting for that matter - read that how you like ;-)
I think that, newscasters aside, the acting unions will start to jump up and down in a very agitated manner when a virtual actor starts replacing real life actors.. not to mention that the live actor who was copied will expect huge payments for use of his image (or his estate will).
When vested interests start to think they will lose money, there'll be all hell breaking loose - and we'll probably end up with real actors playing alongside 1 or 2 animated add-ons - think Jar-Jar or Gollum, or with virtual copies of the playing actor in only a few scenes (instead of a stunt double).
not funny at all, think from an AOL marketing person's point of view - if they sent out CD-RWs, people wouldn't just bin them, they'd keep them and every tme they reused them, they see the AOL logo. Over and over again, instead of the current system where they see it once - on its way to the bin.
Someone should point this out to AOL's marketing dept. (just don't tell them you can slap a blank label over the top, ok).
And it'd be more environmentally friendly.
I love it when a plan comes together!
Think yourself lucky, AOL actually sent you something useful - an empty DVD case. Those things cost (inc postage) to get.
Now, I'd have a complaint against AOL if they started sending me horny young teens, herbal viagra and youth drugs through the post.
umm. what am I saying! more spam, more spam!
it isn't just 'frags fer j00', or fps running your favourite first-person shooter.
As the CPU ability increases, the quality of the graphics increases too. Compare the old Wing Commander series (you know, the one that persuaded people to upgrade to a 486) with the latest version Freelancer..
It won't be that long before we have game that have realistic-looking characters, and people will want to play it, even if it is on a console rather than your PC. Games developers will always want to put in more features, it sells more games after all.
There is another attitude you could take WRT ever faster CPUs - the old, obsolete ones just get cheaper and cheaper. I'm thinking of upgrading to a 1.2Ghz duron because they now cost so little.
well don't spend it all at once. If they're paying well over market rates they could end up in financial difficulties and then... you're left with your savings.
embedded systems programming is where its at at the moment though - but you either get horrible large engineering firms that wouldn't know a UI if it bit them, and small startups that think they can make a fortune writing GPS-type apps.
He does have a point, I think at least the /. editors need a "you've DOS'd someone's server" notification so they can remove the link from the posted article. /. really should start caching pages that are linked to.
Either that or
nobody knew how to get rid of spam once upon a time. Just because you now know, doesn't mean that the rest of the population knows.
The articles should stay for as long as there's a problem. If you have an issue with this, save the bandwidth by not reading them. the subject was clearly marked after all.
As reported herea g=fd_l ede1_hed
http://news.com.com/2100-1032-995658.html?t
spam could start to become a problem in the workplace, to the point where you will be unable to use a company's email system for anything non work-related.
If the chances of being sued by a disgruntled worker (who could sign himself up for the junk in the first place) exists, some people will sue, and the only way to prevent this is to make accepting such email against compamy policy.
No company can guarantee no spam will pass spam filters, so what's the chances that spam is really going to harm our day-to-day lives?
I find it remarkable when a critic of OSS comes along, there are posts like this denouncing his points, whatever they were.
In this case, I think he has a strong argument. OSS should be about makeing what you have better, not creating the same stuff from scratch. Wilst its more than acceptable to have new projects created, its not a good thing to re-invent projects that are already existing. "Make them better" should be encouraged more than "make a new project". I think SourceForge should try ways of strengthening this attitude.
It may be a troll, but its a good one - raising the awareness and discussion of OSS quality and coverage. Dont knock it because its criticising something bad (after all, 385 text editors can't be all right)