It is a shame that current physicists are using valuable resources to search for "life" within such a limited framework.
Its a shame somebody gets modded up that much on/. for such an unconstructive post, not giving any idea how the very scarce resources of our physicists should be assigned and what your framework in such a quest would be.
I don't qualify under current law, but the first thing I would do is to look at how to make the current US problem in Iraq someone else's problem. Over the past five years Iraq has all but destroyed the US army. Whose army do we most want to destroy most (or care least about)? That would be Iran. So the US says to Iran 'your problem now', withdraw to Kuwait, see whether Iran prefers to have a festering civil war on its border or gets sucked in.
This is even worse policy then Bush did/does in his terms. So basically you say the solution to end a civil war is to create another one in a neigbouring country? I can see Iran having some influence in the current affairs, but no so much that it would justify burdening the normal, hard working, mostly non-fanatic, Iranian people with a (civil) war. Anyone doing something like this should be treated as a war criminal.
I have no idea what the current value of Slashdot is but if we are really scared what will happen to/. when Rob leaves someday, wouldnt it be an idea to try to buy it as a group? I for one don't like the idea of Slashdot losing editorial independence, will not welcome any corporate overlord and would donate to prevent it from happening, if possible.
I don't have a problem with people shooting at the messenger, as long as they keep the message itself seperated from that. If Gore does consume much energy himself thats a bad thing, however keep in mind it doesnt make mass energy consumption look less bad because of that fact.
Here's the Iranian president take on science is in the Islamic world:
Fixed that for you
Not all Iranian leaders are the way you put it, think of Katami, there are others too. Currently the balance of power lies near the conservatives, but that can and most likely will change
Well at least with Christians, Jews, Hindus and Sikhs you're simply wrong, or do you forget the conflicts in Northern Ireland, Kashmir (and other parts of India) and the Israeli state terrorism that easily? Ofcourse in these cases its mainly about power and money, but do not make the mistake exactly the same is the case with most muslim fanatics.
It is one thing to pick on religious zealots, but a whole other thing to pick on a complete religion where most of its members just want to live in peace, like the others.
No, and i was just pointing out that mentioning van Gogh has nothing to do with the subject. Why is that patronising?
And not the death of the target?
I'm not saying i don't care about his possible death, but individuals are rarely important enough to influence state politics. The risk for the Iranian government in case he actually get killed will be minor, incomparable with complete self destruction.
You're assuming they don't want to die. Perhaps you wouldn't launch a missile at Isreal for fear of retaliation. But as 9-11, London and Madrid show, death is not a deterrent for those who think they're going to an afterlife full of sweet cakes and little boys to molest.
Your main flaw is comparing the Iranian government with terrorist groups. While its true they support groups with individuals willing to die for their cause, you can be pretty sure the Iranian government and ayatollahs just want to stay in power, not to die for it or risk losing control. You are mixing political rhetorics with actual beliefs, meanwhile just intended for both parties to distract the John Doe from domestic problems and to keep them in power. There's no difference in that between Iran and a lot of other countries.
I know Iran is supporting terrorist groups in Iraq and Lebanon, but i would like you to remember the US and other western countries did and still does this too. Think of Pakistan and Turkmenistan, both militaristic dictatorships supported just because they happen to be strategically important for Afghanistan. Think of Osama, Saddam and all the rebel movements in Africa and South America which happened to be funded or supplied with arms by the US in your forgotten history. So this seems not a really valid argument to me as a reason to invade a country, or we should queue up in front of the US borders too;)
It is true Iran does not necessarily need the nuclear power, but hey, its their country, if they want nuclear power they have the right to get it. Russia has vast gas and oil resources too, is that a reason to step up and deny them nuclear power also? Apart from that, yes Iran does not have the right to build nukes, as they signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, but there is no actual proof of them building a nukes.
Regarding the issue of having a nuclear weapon and the big step to actually use it i want to point you on this post
Theo van Gogh (my fellow countrymen btw) or his murderer dont have anything to do with the Iranian government, i hope you see the difference between a (non-Iranian) person and a (Iranian) state.
The other two examples are a bit more fitting, but you can't seriously compare organizing a protest against cartoons with actually using a nuclear bomb. Even the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, as much as bad as it is, is completely out of the same league.
With announcing a fatwa, which was mostly a political action, not a religious one, the risk is some economic sanctions and a bit of diplomatic stress at most.
Consider what would happen if Iran would use a nuclear bomb against Israel, which has nuclear bombs too. It would be assurance for complete destruction of Iran by Israeli and perhaps American nukes and losing the political support of all/almost every nation on Earth, probably even the Palestinians and neighbour countries as they will be heavily hit by any fall-out caused by the bomb. The Iranian Ayatollah's, who are more driven by power then by religion like most of the religious leaders do, do know that very well and will know it's a path leading to complete self destruction.
Hell, even the former evil Soviet empire didnt use their vast arsenal of nukes during the height of the Cold War, why would a tiny country with one or two bombs even try to hit much more powerful nations? There's nothing to gain there, and the Iranians know that better then you do.
Stop hating people just because your television and government tells you to. This is not about religion, its just an every-day political game to turn the peoples minds from domestic problems, both in the US as in Iran.
Committing virtually all of our military strength to an area, that, before we went there, wasnt a threat. Giving other places (Iran anyone?) who are a threat to us, a much greater sense of security, in threatening us
Iran is imho even a lesser threat then Iraq was a few years ago, i can't understand why people seem to fall for the same mistake again after Iraq. Even if Iran will get a nuclear weapon, it is foolish to think the people there are so mad/dumb to actually use it.
Funny, as you are probably a overconsuming European, or worse on average, American, it would be better for the environment if such a pandemic occured in your *own* country instead of those 'overpopulated countries'.
What makes you think you're part of the targeted audience? Hint: the masses do like glass faces and real marble and don't care about the inner workings of an operating system.
They seem to be acting much like a heroine addict, in that they're moving from one crime to the next, getting bigger and bigger fines but no matter how much you fine the company it is still pathologically anti-competitive.
Well if there is one example of 'crime does pay well' i would say it is Microsoft, why would they change? It works!
So based on your knowledge that a few servers are registred in the wrong category you assume this is true also for lots of other Apache servers? Have you taken into consideration that the reverse could also be possible? Tested it? In significant numbers?
I have no doubt that the Netcraft statistics aren't 100% correct but your statement has no proof.
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It is a shame that current physicists are using valuable resources to search for "life" within such a limited framework.
Its a shame somebody gets modded up that much on /. for such an unconstructive post, not giving any idea how the very scarce resources of our physicists should be assigned and what your framework in such a quest would be.
I don't qualify under current law, but the first thing I would do is to look at how to make the current US problem in Iraq someone else's problem. Over the past five years Iraq has all but destroyed the US army. Whose army do we most want to destroy most (or care least about)? That would be Iran. So the US says to Iran 'your problem now', withdraw to Kuwait, see whether Iran prefers to have a festering civil war on its border or gets sucked in.
This is even worse policy then Bush did/does in his terms. So basically you say the solution to end a civil war is to create another one in a neigbouring country? I can see Iran having some influence in the current affairs, but no so much that it would justify burdening the normal, hard working, mostly non-fanatic, Iranian people with a (civil) war. Anyone doing something like this should be treated as a war criminal.
I have no idea what the current value of Slashdot is but if we are really scared what will happen to /. when Rob leaves someday, wouldnt it be an idea to try to buy it as a group? I for one don't like the idea of Slashdot losing editorial independence, will not welcome any corporate overlord and would donate to prevent it from happening, if possible.
I agree 100%
I don't have a problem with people shooting at the messenger, as long as they keep the message itself seperated from that. If Gore does consume much energy himself thats a bad thing, however keep in mind it doesnt make mass energy consumption look less bad because of that fact.
Here's the Iranian president take on science is in the Islamic world:
Fixed that for you
Not all Iranian leaders are the way you put it, think of Katami, there are others too.
Currently the balance of power lies near the conservatives, but that can and most likely will change
Well at least with Christians, Jews, Hindus and Sikhs you're simply wrong, or do you forget the conflicts in Northern Ireland, Kashmir (and other parts of India) and the Israeli state terrorism that easily? Ofcourse in these cases its mainly about power and money, but do not make the mistake exactly the same is the case with most muslim fanatics.
It is one thing to pick on religious zealots, but a whole other thing to pick on a complete religion where most of its members just want to live in peace, like the others.
If you have a bank vault depending on a Debian system I would expect you to hire a sys admin capable enoguh to know Debian Volatile...
Perhaps of some interest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks_during_the_1930s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936-1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine
It's just the time it takes to get to the frontpage of /. !
Have you ever been accused of being patronising?
No, and i was just pointing out that mentioning van Gogh has nothing to do with the subject. Why is that patronising?
And not the death of the target?
I'm not saying i don't care about his possible death, but individuals are rarely important enough to influence state politics.
The risk for the Iranian government in case he actually get killed will be minor, incomparable with complete self destruction.
You're assuming they don't want to die. Perhaps you wouldn't launch a missile at Isreal for fear of retaliation. But as 9-11, London and Madrid show, death is not a deterrent for those who think they're going to an afterlife full of sweet cakes and little boys to molest.
Your main flaw is comparing the Iranian government with terrorist groups. While its true they support groups with individuals willing to die for their cause, you can be pretty sure the Iranian government and ayatollahs just want to stay in power, not to die for it or risk losing control. You are mixing political rhetorics with actual beliefs, meanwhile just intended for both parties to distract the John Doe from domestic problems and to keep them in power. There's no difference in that between Iran and a lot of other countries.
I know Iran is supporting terrorist groups in Iraq and Lebanon, but i would like you to remember the US and other western countries did and still does this too. Think of Pakistan and Turkmenistan, both militaristic dictatorships supported just because they happen to be strategically important for Afghanistan. Think of Osama, Saddam and all the rebel movements in Africa and South America which happened to be funded or supplied with arms by the US in your forgotten history. So this seems not a really valid argument to me as a reason to invade a country, or we should queue up in front of the US borders too ;)
It is true Iran does not necessarily need the nuclear power, but hey, its their country, if they want nuclear power they have the right to get it. Russia has vast gas and oil resources too, is that a reason to step up and deny them nuclear power also? Apart from that, yes Iran does not have the right to build nukes, as they signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, but there is no actual proof of them building a nukes.
Regarding the issue of having a nuclear weapon and the big step to actually use it i want to point you on this post
Theo van Gogh (my fellow countrymen btw) or his murderer dont have anything to do with the Iranian government, i hope you see the difference between a (non-Iranian) person and a (Iranian) state.
The other two examples are a bit more fitting, but you can't seriously compare organizing a protest against cartoons with actually using a nuclear bomb. Even the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, as much as bad as it is, is completely out of the same league.
With announcing a fatwa, which was mostly a political action, not a religious one, the risk is some economic sanctions and a bit of diplomatic stress at most.
Consider what would happen if Iran would use a nuclear bomb against Israel, which has nuclear bombs too. It would be assurance for complete destruction of Iran by Israeli and perhaps American nukes and losing the political support of all/almost every nation on Earth, probably even the Palestinians and neighbour countries as they will be heavily hit by any fall-out caused by the bomb. The Iranian Ayatollah's, who are more driven by power then by religion like most of the religious leaders do, do know that very well and will know it's a path leading to complete self destruction.
Hell, even the former evil Soviet empire didnt use their vast arsenal of nukes during the height of the Cold War, why would a tiny country with one or two bombs even try to hit much more powerful nations? There's nothing to gain there, and the Iranians know that better then you do.
Stop hating people just because your television and government tells you to. This is not about religion, its just an every-day political game to turn the peoples minds from domestic problems, both in the US as in Iran.
Committing virtually all of our military strength to an area, that, before we went there, wasnt a threat. Giving other places (Iran anyone?) who are a threat to us, a much greater sense of security, in threatening us
Iran is imho even a lesser threat then Iraq was a few years ago, i can't understand why people seem to fall for the same mistake again after Iraq. Even if Iran will get a nuclear weapon, it is foolish to think the people there are so mad/dumb to actually use it.
It's all about sexual education, compare the numbers for example between The US and my country, the Netherlands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_pregnancy)
Funny, as you are probably a overconsuming European, or worse on average, American, it would be better for the environment if such a pandemic occured in your *own* country instead of those 'overpopulated countries'.
Man gives 40 billion to charity, then people complain it does more harm then good, i love it
Dutch, TomTom is Dutch (Netherlands!) :)
Is this device included in Lego Mindstorms?
I want to send a package to a good old friend of mine.
Regards,
Hannibal
What makes you think you're part of the targeted audience?
Hint: the masses do like glass faces and real marble and don't care about the inner workings of an operating system.
They seem to be acting much like a heroine addict, in that they're moving from one crime to the next, getting bigger and bigger fines but no matter how much you fine the company it is still pathologically anti-competitive.
Well if there is one example of 'crime does pay well' i would say it is Microsoft, why would they change? It works!
I blame Taco, with these top picks this redesign contest will make as much difference as the loathed 'upgrade' of Windows XP to Vista will be.
Abandon the rules, set the designers free!
So based on your knowledge that a few servers are registred in the wrong category you assume this is true also for lots of other Apache servers? Have you taken into consideration that the reverse could also be possible? Tested it? In significant numbers?
I have no doubt that the Netcraft statistics aren't 100% correct but your statement has no proof.
Well that easy to solve, we wont show the cursor!
Found it, it is available in Dutch at http://download.ludden.nl/20060119_zembla_verslaaf daankinderporno.pdf