because of a lawsuit. Thus, there is much to discuss.
I own many Macs, from the fruity IMac (blueberry) to the flatpanel 17 inch to the dual G4 1.42 blazer to my 15 and 17 inch powerbook G4s. Apple isn't solving this problem because guys like me with lots of product went and drew attention to the problem. It solved the problem because class action attornies like me went and drew attention to the problem.
You have the right to make one copy, not the limitation to be allowed only one even if your license and contract agree to more than one. The law here allows ONE copy where a contract is silent, it does not command a limitation where a contract speaks of more.
This kind of arguement makes lawyers look bad. If I were IBM I would file for sanctions against this lawyer.
117. Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs53
(a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. -- Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:
(1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.
it is meant to socialise the working class. I concur with the learned Enomar, the reason there is structure and deadlines and scutwork and all that is because that is the way 85% of the world's jobs are.
For the very bright kids, school matters little: they will always be entreprenurial
I have a right to privacy in my home, church, etc. where the Constitution says The Man cannot tread without a warrant. Where education is involved, there is no right to privacy within the institution: you have availed yourself of a government institution and its benefits. The school therefore has the right to collect information about its students.
The things you do in the school while you are there are not matters that can be released to just anyone because you have a general expectation of privacy (and a justified one at that). But the school is allowed to use that information within the school anyway it sees fit to benefit the student. As the learned poster Allism said, anything that helps techers help students can't be a bad thing.
Privacy advocates are always jumpy when they hear the word "database" with relation to names. Sometimes those fears are justified. It sounds like this is a system trying to help students who might otherwise fall through the cracks.
Since wireless cards and base stations are cheap, it might be good to show people they can use the cable modem/dsl from anywhere/any computer in the house without hardwiring.
First part of the class is how to put in the card and attach the router to the modem. Then to get to the internet with the wireless setup. Then how to run a peer to peer local network using the DHCP sever on a wireless router.
WEP and security are good topics for later. If you had people that wanted to share but were a little distance away from each other, you could even do Yagi 101, but that's a little much.
Have everyone bring a can of Pringles. You could have snacks for the class and materials for an antenna.
Wow. You sound unhappy. But you didn't comment on the real underlying aspect of this article: was there some use to the DARPA scheme or was it "neocon" weirdness?
You don't feel terrorized: I'm 35 floors up, 40 blocks uptown from where the WTC was, where lot's of people I know and love got killed. But that's not definable, so Bush must be wrong. Where did I mention shuting off the Constitution? Your rant exceeds what was on the page, I'm sorry you are taking it all so hard.
My point was that this idea exchange, however flawed, might be a good thing to help keep our country safer, but that the political opponents of the current President were making great hay with it.
Aside from the obvious morbidity of the whole thing, it is a VERY interesting tool for gauging global policy and diplomacy issues.
I have a political science degree from NYU. I have a law degree as well. I read lots of newspapers, journals, web sites, blogs that cut across lots of different disciplines -- computer science, law, economics, current events, foreign issues. There are lots of people like me out there who are armchair diplomats and CIA wannabes who went for the money instead of government service. What better way to get input from this diverse group of people than to engage them in a real time, decentralized, internet think tank. To weed out those that are not serious, the money component was added. Makes sense to me.
Sounds REALLY interesting, but hacks like some of our Democratic Presidential hopefuls will want to make hay on the morbidity end of it instead of the usefulness of putting the nation's collective thinking into the war against terror.
Some of the greatest leaders of the world were bipolar [FDR, Churchill], some of the greatest artists were schizophrenic [ Van Gogh], etc.
Societal norms are not always for the best. You should not contort your life to fit into someone else's mainstream. Clearly, if you suffer sympoms that make your life uncomfortable, you should treat them. But not everyone should have a long attention span [otherwise there would be no TV execs.]
What appears to be a weakness to some is a great asset to others.
What the Senator is suggesting is that a purported copyright holder be allowed to destroy property of another with no trial. This is un-American.
First, an Article 3 created court needs to determine guilt or innocence. Second, destruction of property as a punishment appears nowhere in the penal code [hehe, hehe, he said "penal"]. Last time I checked, we didn't cut off hands, either.
If I am a farmer and I think you may have stolen corn from my field as you drove by, could I destroy your refridgerator?
Hatch has no concept of technology or the dynamic of the problem he seeks to address. Thus, he speaks as one insane.
"I'd do away with the pixies if you could give me something more." Ben Lee
The Revenge Of the Coders. Why doesn't everyone who contributed to the Linux kernel slap a TRO on SCO? I'll do the paperwork and the filing for free....
Think of IBM as a HUGE wrestler with muscles on his muscles in a big blue leotard with a penguin on the chest - SCO as a whimpy dude screaming at him from the crowd about his momma and how she infringed on his code and the ASSWHUPPIN that commences. WooHoo!
will be as effective as geting MS to show code to competitors.
The ruling here calls for an injunction for the anticompetitive behavior. Even though defendants deny such behavior, if cds stay at the same price for a longish period of time (say, a year), the state ag's will rush in and once again do their thing.
And according to the NV AG,the music bohemoths donated 5.5 million cds to charities like ibraries, where you can rip away to your heart's content.
I thought you guys lived on Jolt cola and pepperoni pizza? Doesn't that sustain you enough to work 24/7 at highspeeds?
Or maybe they should issue y'all Provigil.
I like that. If I was the bastard employer, I would sent them home on friday at 8pm, have them return on saturday at 8pm and work 24 hours until sunday at 8pm. Just thinking like Dogbert. I'd still comply with NYS law.
Mr. Conspiracy does have a point - if at any time you were treated as a contract employee - you certainly would have a different case. I based my assumption on the fact pattern presented "But us salaried employees...."
I am sorry to disagree with my learned colleague autopr0n.
As I mentioned earlier, while wage issues are dealt with in state laws, they are pre-empted if a federal law exists, which in this case it does.
Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 lays out who can get overtime and what maximum hours are - 29 USCA Â 213(17) is the kicker.
 213. Exemption (17) any employee who is a computer systems analyst, computer programmer, software engineer, or other similarly skilled worker, whose primary duty is-- (A) the application of systems analysis techniques and procedures, including consulting with users, to determine hardware, software, or system functional specifications;
You can't get overtime as a salaried programmer. I am really sorry.
Federal law pre-empts state law in the Labor Law area. It doesn't matter what the state says if Congress passed a law that says it will pre-empt state law. That's what it did in 1938 with the Fair Labor Standards Act.
Like I said earlier, it would truly appear that you have no legal remedy. Sorry.
programmers are an exception to the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 - 29 USCA Â 213(17) --
 213. Exemption (17) any employee who is a computer systems analyst, computer programmer, software engineer, or other similarly skilled worker, whose primary duty is-- (A) the application of systems analysis techniques and procedures, including consulting with users, to determine hardware, software, or system functional specifications;
You can't get overtime as a salaried programmer. I am really sorry.
- ---------- On Tuesday 07 January 2003 20:31, Don Melton wrote: ----------
Subject: Our changes to KHTML and KJS Date: Tuesday 07 January 2003 20:31 From: Don Melton To: Lars Knoll , Harri Porten , Waldo Bastian , Dirk Mueller , Martin Jones , Torben Weis , Antti Koivisto , Simon Hausmann , Daniel Molkentin , Stefan Schimanski , Peter Kelly
Hi,
Here is the second email I promised which details our changes and additions to KHTML and KJS which were done for Safari.
As it says on our open source web page at http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/web core / the sources we will post later today are based on KDE 3.0.2. The best way to see every change line by line is to diff against the originals.
- -- Don Melton Safari Engineering Manager Apple Computer
Sorry if you think that's a troll, my anonomous friend. Have a nice day.
Kids, I tell 'ya Safari is the power vac of all browsers - it sux big time. I loved it when it first came out. it felt like a faster load than IE. Then I was losing my Net connection. Frequently. Flushing the cache worked once in a whie, reboot worked always.
Apple disscussions on the subject here
http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@237.Sa ou aKk3n6f.116479@.3bc1f20f/10
Sorry about the non-hyperlink. Don't know how to code. Peace.
Slashdot Mirror
because of a lawsuit. Thus, there is much to discuss.
I own many Macs, from the fruity IMac (blueberry) to the flatpanel 17 inch to the dual G4 1.42 blazer to my 15 and 17 inch powerbook G4s. Apple isn't solving this problem because guys like me with lots of product went and drew attention to the problem. It solved the problem because class action attornies like me went and drew attention to the problem.
You're welcome.
Spell check not included.
hehehe. I hate being without spellcheck. Sorry.
Absolutely correct.
You have the right to make one copy, not the limitation to be allowed only one even if your license and contract agree to more than one. The law here allows ONE copy where a contract is silent, it does not command a limitation where a contract speaks of more.
This kind of arguement makes lawyers look bad. If I were IBM I would file for sanctions against this lawyer.
The purtainent chapter of the Copywrite Code reads:
117. Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs53 (a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. -- Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided: (1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or (2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.
it is meant to socialise the working class. I concur with the learned Enomar, the reason there is structure and deadlines and scutwork and all that is because that is the way 85% of the world's jobs are.
For the very bright kids, school matters little: they will always be entreprenurial
I have a right to privacy in my home, church, etc. where the Constitution says The Man cannot tread without a warrant. Where education is involved, there is no right to privacy within the institution: you have availed yourself of a government institution and its benefits. The school therefore has the right to collect information about its students.
The things you do in the school while you are there are not matters that can be released to just anyone because you have a general expectation of privacy (and a justified one at that). But the school is allowed to use that information within the school anyway it sees fit to benefit the student. As the learned poster Allism said, anything that helps techers help students can't be a bad thing.
Privacy advocates are always jumpy when they hear the word "database" with relation to names. Sometimes those fears are justified. It sounds like this is a system trying to help students who might otherwise fall through the cracks.
Since wireless cards and base stations are cheap, it might be good to show people they can use the cable modem/dsl from anywhere/any computer in the house without hardwiring.
First part of the class is how to put in the card and attach the router to the modem. Then to get to the internet with the wireless setup. Then how to run a peer to peer local network using the DHCP sever on a wireless router.
WEP and security are good topics for later. If you had people that wanted to share but were a little distance away from each other, you could even do Yagi 101, but that's a little much.
Have everyone bring a can of Pringles. You could have snacks for the class and materials for an antenna.
Take a breath, for crying out loud.
Wow. You sound unhappy. But you didn't comment on the real underlying aspect of this article: was there some use to the DARPA scheme or was it "neocon" weirdness?
You don't feel terrorized: I'm 35 floors up, 40 blocks uptown from where the WTC was, where lot's of people I know and love got killed. But that's not definable, so Bush must be wrong. Where did I mention shuting off the Constitution? Your rant exceeds what was on the page, I'm sorry you are taking it all so hard.
My point was that this idea exchange, however flawed, might be a good thing to help keep our country safer, but that the political opponents of the current President were making great hay with it.
And I voted for Nader, so go jump yourself.
Aside from the obvious morbidity of the whole thing, it is a VERY interesting tool for gauging global policy and diplomacy issues.
I have a political science degree from NYU. I have a law degree as well. I read lots of newspapers, journals, web sites, blogs that cut across lots of different disciplines -- computer science, law, economics, current events, foreign issues. There are lots of people like me out there who are armchair diplomats and CIA wannabes who went for the money instead of government service. What better way to get input from this diverse group of people than to engage them in a real time, decentralized, internet think tank. To weed out those that are not serious, the money component was added. Makes sense to me.
Sounds REALLY interesting, but hacks like some of our Democratic Presidential hopefuls will want to make hay on the morbidity end of it instead of the usefulness of putting the nation's collective thinking into the war against terror.
Some of the greatest leaders of the world were bipolar [FDR, Churchill], some of the greatest artists were schizophrenic [ Van Gogh], etc.
Societal norms are not always for the best. You should not contort your life to fit into someone else's mainstream. Clearly, if you suffer sympoms that make your life uncomfortable, you should treat them. But not everyone should have a long attention span [otherwise there would be no TV execs.]
What appears to be a weakness to some is a great asset to others.
What the Senator is suggesting is that a purported copyright holder be allowed to destroy property of another with no trial. This is un-American.
First, an Article 3 created court needs to determine guilt or innocence. Second, destruction of property as a punishment appears nowhere in the penal code [hehe, hehe, he said "penal"]. Last time I checked, we didn't cut off hands, either.
If I am a farmer and I think you may have stolen corn from my field as you drove by, could I destroy your refridgerator?
Hatch has no concept of technology or the dynamic of the problem he seeks to address. Thus, he speaks as one insane.
"I'd do away with the pixies if you could give me something more." Ben Lee
The Revenge Of the Coders. Why doesn't everyone who contributed to the Linux kernel slap a TRO on SCO? I'll do the paperwork and the filing for free....
Shock and awe, IBM!!! Shock and freeking AWE! I mean, yes, I agree, we are whipped to a war frenzy here.
Think of IBM as a HUGE wrestler with muscles on his muscles in a big blue leotard with a penguin on the chest - SCO as a whimpy dude screaming at him from the crowd about his momma and how she infringed on his code and the ASSWHUPPIN that commences. WooHoo!
Let the games begin!
will be as effective as geting MS to show code to competitors.
,the music bohemoths donated 5.5 million cds to charities like ibraries, where you can rip away to your heart's content.
The ruling here calls for an injunction for the anticompetitive behavior. Even though defendants deny such behavior, if cds stay at the same price for a longish period of time (say, a year), the state ag's will rush in and once again do their thing.
And according to the NV AG
Or rip from the radio to your PC. This has got to frighten the RIAA.
I thought you guys lived on Jolt cola and pepperoni pizza? Doesn't that sustain you enough to work 24/7 at highspeeds? Or maybe they should issue y'all Provigil.
I like that. If I was the bastard employer, I would sent them home on friday at 8pm, have them return on saturday at 8pm and work 24 hours until sunday at 8pm. Just thinking like Dogbert. I'd still comply with NYS law.
Mr. Conspiracy does have a point - if at any time you were treated as a contract employee - you certainly would have a different case. I based my assumption on the fact pattern presented "But us salaried employees...."
I am sorry to disagree with my learned colleague autopr0n.
As I mentioned earlier, while wage issues are dealt with in state laws, they are pre-empted if a federal law exists, which in this case it does.
Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 lays out who can get overtime and what maximum hours are - 29 USCA Â 213(17) is the kicker.
 213. Exemption
(17) any employee who is a computer systems analyst, computer programmer, software engineer, or other similarly skilled worker, whose primary duty is--
(A) the application of systems analysis techniques and procedures, including consulting with users, to determine hardware, software, or system functional specifications;
You can't get overtime as a salaried programmer. I am really sorry.
Federal law pre-empts state law in the Labor Law area. It doesn't matter what the state says if Congress passed a law that says it will pre-empt state law. That's what it did in 1938 with the Fair Labor Standards Act.
Like I said earlier, it would truly appear that you have no legal remedy. Sorry.
Uh, yes.
programmers are an exception to the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 - 29 USCA Â 213(17) --
 213. Exemption
(17) any employee who is a computer systems analyst, computer programmer, software engineer, or other similarly skilled worker, whose primary duty is--
(A) the application of systems analysis techniques and procedures, including consulting with users, to determine hardware, software, or system functional specifications;
You can't get overtime as a salaried programmer. I am really sorry.
No, it is not GPL'ed. But the underlying code is.
b core / the sources we will
- ---------- On Tuesday 07 January 2003 20:31, Don Melton wrote: ----------
Subject: Our changes to KHTML and KJS
Date: Tuesday 07 January 2003 20:31
From: Don Melton
To: Lars Knoll , Harri Porten , Waldo Bastian
, Dirk Mueller , Martin Jones
, Torben Weis , Antti Koivisto
, Simon Hausmann , Daniel Molkentin
, Stefan Schimanski , Peter Kelly
Hi,
Here is the second email I promised which details our changes and
additions to KHTML and KJS which were done for Safari.
As it says on our open source web page at
http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/we
post later today are based on KDE 3.0.2. The best way to see every
change line by line is to diff against the originals.
- --
Don Melton
Safari Engineering Manager
Apple Computer
Sorry if you think that's a troll, my anonomous friend. Have a nice day.
Kids, I tell 'ya Safari is the power vac of all browsers - it sux big time. I loved it when it first came out. it felt like a faster load than IE. Then I was losing my Net connection. Frequently. Flushing the cache worked once in a whie, reboot worked always.
a ou aKk3n6f.116479@.3bc1f20f/10
Apple disscussions on the subject here
http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@237.S
Sorry about the non-hyperlink. Don't know how to code. Peace.
Or you could buy a Mac emulator and do it on the cheap. just saying.
Safari is just the GPL'ed browser itself. How can it say it doesn't have access to the Darwin BSD underpinnings of OSX? It's freeking open source.
:>
Oh, and Safari freezes my g4 powerbook all the time. I use Opera now.