Well, when they say "live on the farm" or "be an interior decorator," they're only telling you half the story.
What they really mean is "keep the large car, fancy vacation, and everything else they have, but ditch the high pressure job and work on the farm."
You're right. They could become farmboys tomorrow if that was all that they wanted. But, they want two competing things -- a simpler job, but the lavish lifestyle. And in their minds, the latter weighs heavier than the former. It's just a choice one has to make for him or herself.
Why the need for a novel language to do web scripting? The only argument I can see is ease of installation and learning, but those aren't good reasons for serious developers.
When all you have is a hammer... everything looks like a nail.
Perl is a really, really, honkin' big hammer. It can smash just about any nail into anything. But sometimes, a wrench or a screwdriver would do the job better.
A master carpenter doesn't say "I can do anything with this hammer, given enough effort." He's got a giant toolbox filled with a dozen wrenches, a few hammers, screwdrivers... you get the point.
If you want to consider yourself a "serious developer", you should really consider broadening your skill set. There's a lot of things that I can do very fast in perl, but sometimes I need to come up with a quick database enabled website on Windows 2000. I immediately think, "Cold Fusion." Sure, I could install ActiveState perl, but I can do the job twice as quickly in CFML.
Likewise, PHP has it's job creating webpage templates in a UNIX environment. PHP has great database hooks and CGI handling. I can do some things in PHP in fewer lines than in Perl. The converse is also true -- in which case, I use Perl, and not PHP.
So, if you're handy enough with the Perl hammer, you could probably use it for everything. But you might dent up the walls a bit on the way.
Still wouldn't clean off the handle on most toilet designs I've seen.
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I've never heard that line about gay people in that quote.
With all due respect to you: do you have any independant verification of your claim? Given that I've heard that quote 100 times without the gay line, where's your source? Where can I see it? It seems to me like you're just blowing off hot air.
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The only part of your post I take issues with is the "don't buy products tested on animals."
Take a good look at the ingredients in shampoo these days. They're just about ALL the same. The "New" shampoos are the same as the ones from the 1950s, like Johnson's Baby Shampoo. All those chemicals were at some point, tested on animals. Not one of those companies has any more "environmental conscience", they just want to market themselves that way.
Furthermore: did you ever wonder what would happen if that stuff reacted poorly with your skin? Or your eyes? Or you accidentally swallowed some because you sneezed when lathering up? I'm happy that my hair products were tested on animals -- that way, I'm assured that it's not going to blind me or kill me if I fuck up by accident! Do you have small children? They get shampoo in their eyes a lot. Do you want to risk your child's eyesight, squirting chemicals of unknown toxicity into his or her young eyes? Thanks to animal testing, you know that some shampoos are perfectly harmless.
If I'm an engineer building bridges, I gotta keep building bridges to feed myself. If you're a writer and you write one good story, that might well work to feed yourself, your kids, and your grandkids. Tell me that's not a wee bit unfair.
Jefferson's original idea for copyright term was 14 years, to PROMOTE the creation of works of art, literary merit, music, etc.
Tell me, if you can write one good story and never need to write again, how does that promote your writing more and contributing more to society?
Copyright laws today are severely out of alignment of their original intent.
Interestingly enough, that second link of yours lists the ship date of that particular machine as September 10 (This as of 8/21/2002). Clicking on the ship date states that it will take about thirteen days to process the order, build the machine, and ship it.
That doesn't sound very mass-produced rapid delivery to me!
(Compare: I purchased a Dell earlier this summer and customized everything, so that had to be all handled specially, no basic assembly-line there. The time from ordering to arrival at my doorstep was four days. Nice.)
Maybe they're just backlogged this week, or strapped for parts?
Believe it or not, there are a few other smart kids in school. And it'd really help if she met them. (Hint: you won't find them all on your own)
How's she going to join a debate team, astronomy club, or mathletes group?
Will you remember to look into things like Governor's School which provide most excellent summer experiences for HS Juniors, which also look good on the college resume?
Do you have a full-scale chemistry lab in your basement? Hitting the books for high school level chemistry is certainly essential, but a well-run lab experiment can prove a point far more effectively sometimes. A picture's worth a thousand words. A lab can be worth ten thousand.
If you think you and your wife can totally educate your child, you need to think about these things as well. They're equally, if not more, important than the classroom learning, which you might well be qualified to provide.
While the classroom doesn't do that much for social development, the auxillary functions of a school do a fantastic job. Thanks to debate team, for instance, I've had a lot of travel experience, learning to handle myself in a city away from my folks, etc, not to mention what I learned from my coaches. And some of the most dedicated coaches in the league were from public schools.
Believe it or not, there are some teachers out there who do give a crap, and put in the overtime even in a thankless school.
If you're still not convinced, you could always send her to private school. Private catholic schools for instance (caveat: I'm biased because I went to one) -- not archdiocesean, but actually private -- certainly contain teachers who care. They're not there for the money, they could make 3x more in public school, but they like the atmosphere. It's far cheaper than a secular private school (Think Chote, Phillips Andover, etc.), but still a high quality education. (And you don't have to be Catholic. Hell, I'm a Jew.)
If your wife is bright enough to educate your daughter for the next twelve years, then she's certainly bright enough to get a job to pay for the cost of private schooling.
Just consider the above. I'm not saying home schooling is impossible. *But*, there are significant parts of the total package that you might shortchanging your child of.
Do you remember the 1980s and the first half of the 90s? They weren't that long ago, but with today's attention spans...
I was a child throughout the 80's. And we didn't have cel phones. So if my mom and dad went to a restaurant or a theatre or whatever, they called the theatre, and asked for that number. Then they gave that number to the babysitter (And when I was old enough to be home alone, gave it to me).
That way, in the event that there was a horrible catastrophe like my being hit by a bus, the theatre/restaurant could send an usher/waiter/whatever to my folks and inform them of my subsequent demise.
Our society has managed for hundreds of years to function without instantaneous communication. Just because it's now possible doesn't make it imperative. And while your example of your father having a stroke is realistic, it's fairly extreme -- and therefore doesn't justify a general rule of "because emergencies happen, people MUST be able to access cel phones."
The general rule I feel should be "Because emergencies happen, methods of contact should be available. But not if that method of contact can be widely abused - as cel phones in public places, are."
The army now consists [sic] highly trained professionals.
That's because we're at peace. (Relatively speaking. The campaign in Afghanistan doesn't count, given the short length and small number of troops involved.)
The only people in the army right now are those who want to become highly trained military professionals.
If we were suddenly dragged into a full-out multi-theatre war effort as WWII was, there'd be thousands (I hope!) of men and women lining up at the recruitment office not to become a highly trained military professional, but just there to defend the American turf and kick some foreign ass.
If the sh*t hit the fan, the powers-that-be would take just about anybody with two legs who could hold a rifle.
as I say, all units of every country did this - including the Germans.
I'm going to have to contend with you there. One of the leading reasons the Germans lost WWII was because they quite literally ran out of gas.
Their tanks and other mech. got too far ahead of their supply line, and they ran out of fuel. And then the allies took out the German supply train, thus preempting their tank capabilities.
So once you give the nut-jobs your money, you lose control of it
Actually, I was under the pretty strong impression that if you give money to an NPO, you can specifically dictate to what cause within that organization the money should go to. You can donate cash to a school and say "this goes to the band program," and likewise you can donate money to the EFF saying "this money is to be used only to fight the DMCA."
Just about any time that two companies collaborate, some sort of agreement must be signed between the two.
(#include<std/disclaimer.h>, IANAL, etc)
But anyway, assume that SNO simply emailed HP the bug and a patch and HP said "thanks, guys" and rolled it out in the next point release. Six months down the line, SNO *could* (if they were evil enough) sue HP for breech of copyright. Delete the part of the email that said they had permission, etc, and boom.
That's no good.
So, they almost always put stuff out in writing specifying exactly who's giving what to whom and what each party's allowed to do with it.
This is why, if you watch MTV's Jackass, they specifically say at the end of each show "If you send us tapes of yourselves being jackasses, we won't open them. They will be thrown away." It's not that they don't think you could be funny; rather the contrary. They're afraid that if they see your stuff, and then end up publishing something similar by coincidence, they could be sued by you. Because there was no contract.
Furthermore, a contract between two parties, to be legal, must allow both parties to benefit from it. (Which is what separates a contract from extortion.) That's why you don't just give somebody a car and hand them the deed. They always pay you a dollar - so that a contractual agreement was fulfilled between the two of you. If HP and SNO were going to write some sort of contract stating what info SNO was going to give HP, and what HP was allowed to do with it, a transfer of money or other consideration must be given to SNO. (Now, it doesn't have to be a large sum of money. But corporations usually don't work in pocket change. So, SNO probably did want a decent chunk of cash for their part of the bargain.)
So, to summarize, "working relationships" always involve paperwork. Usually to cover people's collective asses. And they usually have cash involved, so that a mutual exchange occurs when the contract is signed. As to why that made HP's lawyers go trigger-happy, well, that's anyone's guess.
Hrm. Assume the average bullet weighs 10 grams. 1,000,000 bullets/minute * 10 g/bullet = 10,000,000 grams of lead per minute; that's 10,000 Kg... Given 2.2 lbs/ Kg, that's 4,500 lbs of lead, or about as much weight as a minivan.
So my question is... what good is this thing, if the battle lasts more than 10 seconds? You'd have to have an ammo depot the size of a house sitting right next to the thing.
How it cost them $5k to "clean it up" is beyond me
Your outsourced tech support staff of 5 people who bill at $125/hr spend a single 8 hour day working on it. That's how. Money adds up fast in the business world.
Wow. Never in my life have I ever heard a grown man describe driving around in a sexy sportscar on sunset strip by saying "I was the millenium falcon going into hyperdrive!"
I'm not sure if that means you kick ass, or I should be very, very scared.
1. What happens when you need to use an automated system? "Press 1 for...." ?
2. I thought the whole point of pressing a mute button was to be discrete about it. Not yell "MUTE!" into the ear of the person you -don't- want to hear you.
3. "So, I was standing there, then there's this great flash of light, and in the muted silence that followed...." How does it know that I didn't just want to a) switch lines and b) shut off my mouthpiece?
My question focusses on the part about "plugging it into a phone jack." What's to stop an Evildoer (tm) from using his computer at home from uploading other results?
The "paper trail" will only be used if a manual recount is forced -- and given the time and expense involved in that, it would only be done if they believed that there might be tampering. A clever hacker would possibly sway the results, but not throw in so many votes as to get noticed.
I suppose some sort of public-key signing mechanism needs to be used, or other form of encryption. It'd be interesting to know the protocol that would fit this best.
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Well, when they say "live on the farm" or "be an interior decorator," they're only telling you half the story.
What they really mean is "keep the large car, fancy vacation, and everything else they have, but ditch the high pressure job and work on the farm."
You're right. They could become farmboys tomorrow if that was all that they wanted. But, they want two competing things -- a simpler job, but the lavish lifestyle. And in their minds, the latter weighs heavier than the former. It's just a choice one has to make for him or herself.
Why the need for a novel language to do web scripting? The only argument I can see is ease of installation and learning, but those aren't good reasons for serious developers.
When all you have is a hammer... everything looks like a nail.
Perl is a really, really, honkin' big hammer. It can smash just about any nail into anything. But sometimes, a wrench or a screwdriver would do the job better.
A master carpenter doesn't say "I can do anything with this hammer, given enough effort." He's got a giant toolbox filled with a dozen wrenches, a few hammers, screwdrivers... you get the point.
If you want to consider yourself a "serious developer", you should really consider broadening your skill set. There's a lot of things that I can do very fast in perl, but sometimes I need to come up with a quick database enabled website on Windows 2000. I immediately think, "Cold Fusion." Sure, I could install ActiveState perl, but I can do the job twice as quickly in CFML.
Likewise, PHP has it's job creating webpage templates in a UNIX environment. PHP has great database hooks and CGI handling. I can do some things in PHP in fewer lines than in Perl. The converse is also true -- in which case, I use Perl, and not PHP.
So, if you're handy enough with the Perl hammer, you could probably use it for everything. But you might dent up the walls a bit on the way.
I'd like an eject button, too :)
Still wouldn't clean off the handle on most
toilet designs I've seen.
I've never heard that line about gay people in that quote.
With all due respect to you: do you have any independant verification of your claim? Given that I've heard that quote 100 times without the gay line, where's your source? Where can I see it? It seems to me like you're just blowing off hot air.
I invoke Godwin's Law.
50 Gb/in^2? What in hell's name is that?
Can I please have this in something I can understand, like Libraries of Congress per square meter?
You, sir, have been trolled.
:)
(Hint: look up 'satire' in the dictionary.)
The only part of your post I take issues with is the "don't buy products tested on animals."
Take a good look at the ingredients in shampoo these days. They're just about ALL the same. The "New" shampoos are the same as the ones from the 1950s, like Johnson's Baby Shampoo. All those chemicals were at some point, tested on animals. Not one of those companies has any more "environmental conscience", they just want to market themselves that way.
Furthermore: did you ever wonder what would happen if that stuff reacted poorly with your skin? Or your eyes? Or you accidentally swallowed some because you sneezed when lathering up? I'm happy that my hair products were tested on animals -- that way, I'm assured that it's not going to blind me or kill me if I fuck up by accident! Do you have small children? They get shampoo in their eyes a lot. Do you want to risk your child's eyesight, squirting chemicals of unknown toxicity into his or her young eyes? Thanks to animal testing, you know that some shampoos are perfectly harmless.
If I'm an engineer building bridges, I gotta keep building bridges to feed myself. If you're a writer and you write one good story, that might well work to feed yourself, your kids, and your grandkids. Tell me that's not a wee bit unfair.
Jefferson's original idea for copyright term was 14 years, to PROMOTE the creation of works of art, literary merit, music, etc.
Tell me, if you can write one good story and never need to write again, how does that promote your writing more and contributing more to society?
Copyright laws today are severely out of alignment of their original intent.
Interestingly enough, that second link of yours lists the ship date of that particular machine as September 10 (This as of 8/21/2002). Clicking on the ship date states that it will take about thirteen days to process the order, build the machine, and ship it.
That doesn't sound very mass-produced rapid delivery to me!
(Compare: I purchased a Dell earlier this summer and customized everything, so that had to be all handled specially, no basic assembly-line there. The time from ordering to arrival at my doorstep was four days. Nice.)
Maybe they're just backlogged this week, or strapped for parts?
Not to sound trollish, but if you're so interested in not having this conversation, why do you continue to have it?
Believe it or not, there are a few other smart kids in school. And it'd really help if she met them. (Hint: you won't find them all on your own)
How's she going to join a debate team, astronomy club, or mathletes group?
Will you remember to look into things like Governor's School which provide most excellent summer experiences for HS Juniors, which also look good on the college resume?
Do you have a full-scale chemistry lab in your basement? Hitting the books for high school level chemistry is certainly essential, but a well-run lab experiment can prove a point far more effectively sometimes. A picture's worth a thousand words. A lab can be worth ten thousand.
If you think you and your wife can totally educate your child, you need to think about these things as well. They're equally, if not more, important than the classroom learning, which you might well be qualified to provide.
While the classroom doesn't do that much for social development, the auxillary functions of a school do a fantastic job. Thanks to debate team, for instance, I've had a lot of travel experience, learning to handle myself in a city away from my folks, etc, not to mention what I learned from my coaches. And some of the most dedicated coaches in the league were from public schools.
Believe it or not, there are some teachers out there who do give a crap, and put in the overtime even in a thankless school.
If you're still not convinced, you could always send her to private school. Private catholic schools for instance (caveat: I'm biased because I went to one) -- not archdiocesean, but actually private -- certainly contain teachers who care. They're not there for the money, they could make 3x more in public school, but they like the atmosphere. It's far cheaper than a secular private school (Think Chote, Phillips Andover, etc.), but still a high quality education. (And you don't have to be Catholic. Hell, I'm a Jew.)
If your wife is bright enough to educate your daughter for the next twelve years, then she's certainly bright enough to get a job to pay for the cost of private schooling.
Just consider the above. I'm not saying home schooling is impossible. *But*, there are significant parts of the total package that you might shortchanging your child of.
Do you remember the 1980s and the first half of the 90s? They weren't that long ago, but with today's attention spans...
I was a child throughout the 80's. And we didn't have cel phones. So if my mom and dad went to a restaurant or a theatre or whatever, they called the theatre, and asked for that number. Then they gave that number to the babysitter (And when I was old enough to be home alone, gave it to me).
That way, in the event that there was a horrible catastrophe like my being hit by a bus, the theatre/restaurant could send an usher/waiter/whatever to my folks and inform them of my subsequent demise.
Our society has managed for hundreds of years to function without instantaneous communication. Just because it's now possible doesn't make it imperative. And while your example of your father having a stroke is realistic, it's fairly extreme -- and therefore doesn't justify a general rule of "because emergencies happen, people MUST be able to access cel phones."
The general rule I feel should be "Because emergencies happen, methods of contact should be available. But not if that method of contact can be widely abused - as cel phones in public places, are."
The army now consists [sic] highly trained professionals.
That's because we're at peace. (Relatively speaking. The campaign in Afghanistan doesn't count, given the short length and small number of troops involved.)
The only people in the army right now are those who want to become highly trained military professionals.
If we were suddenly dragged into a full-out multi-theatre war effort as WWII was, there'd be thousands (I hope!) of men and women lining up at the recruitment office not to become a highly trained military professional, but just there to defend the American turf and kick some foreign ass.
If the sh*t hit the fan, the powers-that-be would take just about anybody with two legs who could hold a rifle.
as I say, all units of every country did this - including the Germans.
I'm going to have to contend with you there. One of the leading reasons the Germans lost WWII was because they quite literally ran out of gas.
Their tanks and other mech. got too far ahead of their supply line, and they ran out of fuel. And then the allies took out the German supply train, thus preempting their tank capabilities.
So once you give the nut-jobs your money, you lose control of it
Actually, I was under the pretty strong impression that if you give money to an NPO, you can specifically dictate to what cause within that organization the money should go to. You can donate cash to a school and say "this goes to the band program," and likewise you can donate money to the EFF saying "this money is to be used only to fight the DMCA."
Just about any time that two companies collaborate, some sort of agreement must be signed between the two.
(#include<std/disclaimer.h>, IANAL, etc)
But anyway, assume that SNO simply emailed HP the bug and a patch and HP said "thanks, guys" and rolled it out in the next point release. Six months down the line, SNO *could* (if they were evil enough) sue HP for breech of copyright. Delete the part of the email that said they had permission, etc, and boom.
That's no good.
So, they almost always put stuff out in writing specifying exactly who's giving what to whom and what each party's allowed to do with it.
This is why, if you watch MTV's Jackass, they specifically say at the end of each show "If you send us tapes of yourselves being jackasses, we won't open them. They will be thrown away." It's not that they don't think you could be funny; rather the contrary. They're afraid that if they see your stuff, and then end up publishing something similar by coincidence, they could be sued by you. Because there was no contract.
Furthermore, a contract between two parties, to be legal, must allow both parties to benefit from it. (Which is what separates a contract from extortion.) That's why you don't just give somebody a car and hand them the deed. They always pay you a dollar - so that a contractual agreement was fulfilled between the two of you. If HP and SNO were going to write some sort of contract stating what info SNO was going to give HP, and what HP was allowed to do with it, a transfer of money or other consideration must be given to SNO. (Now, it doesn't have to be a large sum of money. But corporations usually don't work in pocket change. So, SNO probably did want a decent chunk of cash for their part of the bargain.)
So, to summarize, "working relationships" always involve paperwork. Usually to cover people's collective asses. And they usually have cash involved, so that a mutual exchange occurs when the contract is signed. As to why that made HP's lawyers go trigger-happy, well, that's anyone's guess.
Hrm. Assume the average bullet weighs 10 grams. 1,000,000 bullets/minute * 10 g/bullet = 10,000,000 grams of lead per minute; that's 10,000 Kg... Given 2.2 lbs/ Kg, that's 4,500 lbs of lead, or about as much weight as a minivan.
So my question is... what good is this thing, if the battle lasts more than 10 seconds?
You'd have to have an ammo depot the size of a house sitting right next to the thing.
How it cost them $5k to "clean it up" is beyond me
Your outsourced tech support staff of 5 people who bill at $125/hr spend a single 8 hour day working on it. That's how. Money adds up fast in the business world.
I don't see what's to be ashamed about for that letter at all.
It's well-written, heartfelt, and sincere.
I'm impressed.
Wow. Never in my life have I ever heard a grown man describe driving around in a sexy sportscar on sunset strip by saying "I was the millenium falcon going into hyperdrive!"
I'm not sure if that means you kick ass, or I should be very, very scared.
1. What happens when you need to use an automated system? "Press 1 for ...." ?
2. I thought the whole point of pressing a mute button was to be discrete about it. Not yell "MUTE!" into the ear of the person you -don't- want to hear you.
3. "So, I was standing there, then there's this great flash of light, and in the muted silence that followed...."
How does it know that I didn't just want to a) switch lines and b) shut off my mouthpiece?
A very interesting proposal.
My question focusses on the part about "plugging it into a phone jack." What's to stop an Evildoer (tm) from using his computer at home from uploading other results?
The "paper trail" will only be used if a manual recount is forced -- and given the time and expense involved in that, it would only be done if they believed that there might be tampering. A clever hacker would possibly sway the results, but not throw in so many votes as to get noticed.
I suppose some sort of public-key signing mechanism needs to be used, or other form of encryption. It'd be interesting to know the protocol that would fit this best.
...that on the anniversary of an attack which paralyzed servers dead in their tracks, we hear the far-away screams of agony from the lone sysadmin of missingleftsocks.com as 100,000 slashdotters pillage his machine simultaneously.