Did you forget about the *representative* sample part? Are your "dozens" of friends representative of the cross section of the worldwide customer base of people who use iPhones?
"Several dozen people" when Apple will probably sell 160 million phones is not "statistically significant". "the people you know who own iPhones" are not representative of a product that is sold globally.
Funny, every iPhone owner I know upgrades yearly. Some are behind the curve, upgrading to the from the 3yr old device to the 2yr old device because they're broke AF, but they all upgrade yearly.
So why do you think your anecdotal evidence is relevant?
If most people upgrade their device yearly, why would Apple bother providing iOS updates for circa 2011 iPhone 4s?
Even iOS 10,when released will support every phone released since 2012.
That's not true. Apple reports a device as sold as soon as the retailer takes shipment. This is standard accounting. Apple "sells" the phone to the retailer not to the end user - except of course phones that are in stock in the Apple Stores.
If you read most of Apple's quarterly financial discussions, they will talk about either number of devices "in the channel" or the change in the number of devices in the channel. Given that number, you can calculate sell through. But that's not the number of devices sold.
(making numbers up for illustration purposes)
If Apple said that sold 1000 phones and they reduced channel inventory by 500. That means 1500 phones were bought by end users. They would have only reported "sales" of 1000 though. The other 500 would have been counted as sales during a prior quarter.
Phones are about the only device where the manufacturer could know when a sale actually reaches a customer because they have to activate the device would Apple. A TV manufacturer, for instance, would have no way of knowing when a TV was bought by a customer.
Reading is fundamental. Someone said that People bought a new phone as a fashion statement. I said that Apple has been selling basically the same "form factor" as the iPhone 5. I did not say they were still selling the same phone. The iPhone 5 came out in 2011. The iPhone SE is the same "basically the same form factor" and they are selling it now.
The story behind why and how Apple stopped selling DRMd music is well documented.
1. Around late 2006/early 2007 other companies were trying to sell music but couldn't make headway because their DRMs music wasn't compatible with FairPlay.
2. The music industry/music sellers tried to pressure Apple into licensing FairPlay.
3. Apple refused and Steve Jobs posted his "Thoughts on Music" post on the front page of Apple.com. I can't find the original but here is the relevant quote - https://m.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/2pkdis/thoughts_on_music_steve_jobs_open_letter_about/
Imagine a world where every online store sells DRM-free music encoded in open licensable formats. In such a world, any player can play music purchased from any store, and any store can sell music which is playable on all players. This is clearly the best alternative for consumers, and Apple would embrace it in a heartbeat. If the big four music companies would license Apple their music without the requirement that it be protected with a DRM, we would switch to selling only DRM-free music on our iTunes store. Every iPod ever made will play this DRM-free music.
He said that if the music industry would allow it. They would be glad to sell DRM free interoperable music.
4. Only one of the big four companies - EMI - took him up on the offer at first. The other companies wanted Apple to pay a deposit because of concerns about piracy, wanted a cut of every iPod sold (they refused but MS caved with the Zune), wanted to not be forced to sell by the song, and wanted to variable pricing. Apple refused. This was before the iPhone went on sale in mid 2007.
5. The music industry tried to play hardball by allowing every other company that would meet there demands to sell DRM free music and not allow Apple to sell music from the iPhone over the cellular network - only wifi.
6. By 2008. They came to an agreement. Apple would allow variable pricing and the music industry would allow them to sell songs over the cellular network.
If I abused my car and had accidents, I would also have to replace my car. The first gen iPhone supports 2G which is still supported by AT&T until next year.
Apple supports their phones with updates longer than any other manufacturer. Even without updates, you can still use a first generation iPhone today.
Yup, indeed. It's not a product, it's fashion. And like with all designer clothes, you need to perpetually throw the old ones away and buy new ones !
Apple has been selling basically the same form factor -- the iPhone 5 for over four years.
- Call me when a car maker start to require you to replace your car every 24months (replacing the whole car, I mean. Literally. Not over billing you for a simple software update over some proprietary extension to the ODB port that they charge metaphorically as expensive as a new car).
Not only does Apple not force you to replace their phone every 24 months. If you bought an iPhone 4s in September of 2011, you are still receiving updates.
- Call me when you need to replace a music record record every few month... no... wait... Okay, the whole purpose of adding DRM to music and introducing a new format every once in a while is exactly for that. So I'll concede the point.
Why is that a bad thing? We love being able to buy tickets in advance and being able to choose our seats before we get there. We don't have to worry about whether we will have good seats. If we look online and there are no good seats, we choose another time.
Exactly. The movie theatres we go to have a nice large screen, a great sound system, reserved seating where you can choose your seats in advance, reclining seats and every seat except the first two rows are good and unobstructed.
Another movie theatre we go to has all of the above plus being able to order food and drinks (alcoholic and non alcoholic) at your seat.
All that being said. We only go to the movies for heavy special efforts laden movies.
But honestly I'd probably pay twice as much if I had a real selection of movies where I had a reasonably good chance that the movie I wanted to see was included.
If you are willing to pay "twice as much" for better content, then why not subscribe to Netflix in addition to Hulu (Epix), HBO, Starz, or Showtime?
Again that's Google's fault. The carrier isn't involved in iOS updates. Why should the carrier be involved at all? My ISP doesn't have anything to do with when my computer receives updates. What's the difference?
not Google's choice. Vendors want the ability to make customizations to the OS, to "add value". It's one of the reason why they accepted Android in the first place: the ability to control, customize, and bundle whatever they wanted.
Windows manufacturers have been adding crap to the default installations for over two decades but users have always been able to get security updates from MS.
There is no trade deal that doesn't cause prices to go up. You have to make it cost less for companies to manufacturer in the U.S. than overseas. The only ways to do that is to raise the cost of importing goods or subsidizing manufacturers - with taxpayers money.
So what do you think happens when we start trade wars? The price of everything goes up we import causing us to pay more and the price of everything we export goes up making it harder to compete. Why is it good to artificially inflate the wage of the "working class" via tariffs and import restrictions but not good to increase the minimum wage?
But who is ultimately responsible? If you're under 24, it's pretty hard to get over your head in student loan debt without having a parent to co-sign.
We set the expectations with both of our children that we would not co-sign a loan for them at all for the first two years, and that the first two years was their responsibility.
That means they would have to either get a scholarship - my state offers free tuition for any state college if you meet the requirements -- or get loans in their own name up to the limit of what they could get for themselves (around $6000/year). They could stay at home and we would provide a car for them.
After the first two years and if they kept a 3.0, we would pay to make up the difference in cost to go to a public college in state and pay room and board if they wanted to go off to school. If they lost their scholarship, they would have to go to a school that they could commute to from home.
It's not the corporations fault that students and their parents are taking out outrageous loans to go to expensive schools to get degrees in markets that aren't in demand. Most of these students could stay at home, go to a two year college much cheaper and transfer to an in state public college and not have huge student loan debt.
I went to an unknown state college, stayed at home and within three years I was making just as much as people going to expensive private colleges.
Trump is trying to get funded by the same people and organizations as every other republican.
It is amazing that the same "working class" that who during the Reagan years were so eager to tell poor people to "pick themselves up by their bootstraps, and stop blaming the government for all their problems" are now complaining about the government and not being able to get ahead.
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Did you forget about the *representative* sample part? Are your "dozens" of friends representative of the cross section of the worldwide customer base of people who use iPhones?
"Several dozen people" when Apple will probably sell 160 million phones is not "statistically significant". "the people you know who own iPhones" are not representative of a product that is sold globally.
So why do you think your anecdotal evidence is relevant?
If most people upgrade their device yearly, why would Apple bother providing iOS updates for circa 2011 iPhone 4s?
Even iOS 10,when released will support every phone released since 2012.
That's not true. Apple reports a device as sold as soon as the retailer takes shipment. This is standard accounting. Apple "sells" the phone to the retailer not to the end user - except of course phones that are in stock in the Apple Stores.
If you read most of Apple's quarterly financial discussions, they will talk about either number of devices "in the channel" or the change in the number of devices in the channel. Given that number, you can calculate sell through. But that's not the number of devices sold.
(making numbers up for illustration purposes)
If Apple said that sold 1000 phones and they reduced channel inventory by 500. That means 1500 phones were bought by end users. They would have only reported "sales" of 1000 though. The other 500 would have been counted as sales during a prior quarter.
Phones are about the only device where the manufacturer could know when a sale actually reaches a customer because they have to activate the device would Apple. A TV manufacturer, for instance, would have no way of knowing when a TV was bought by a customer.
Samsung has been beating Apple in smartphone shipments since 2012.
Not true. Apple released iOS 6.1.6 in 2/2014 for the 3GS after iOS 7 was released to patch the SSL bug.
https://support.apple.com/kb/dl1722?locale=en_US
The 3GS went on sale June 2009 and received updates until 2/2014 - over 4 years after it was introduced.
Reading is fundamental. Someone said that People bought a new phone as a fashion statement. I said that Apple has been selling basically the same "form factor" as the iPhone 5. I did not say they were still selling the same phone. The iPhone 5 came out in 2011. The iPhone SE is the same "basically the same form factor" and they are selling it now.
The story behind why and how Apple stopped selling DRMd music is well documented.
1. Around late 2006/early 2007 other companies were trying to sell music but couldn't make headway because their DRMs music wasn't compatible with FairPlay.
2. The music industry/music sellers tried to pressure Apple into licensing FairPlay.
3. Apple refused and Steve Jobs posted his "Thoughts on Music" post on the front page of Apple.com. I can't find the original but here is the relevant quote - https://m.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/2pkdis/thoughts_on_music_steve_jobs_open_letter_about/
He said that if the music industry would allow it. They would be glad to sell DRM free interoperable music.
4. Only one of the big four companies - EMI - took him up on the offer at first. The other companies wanted Apple to pay a deposit because of concerns about piracy, wanted a cut of every iPod sold (they refused but MS caved with the Zune), wanted to not be forced to sell by the song, and wanted to variable pricing. Apple refused. This was before the iPhone went on sale in mid 2007.
5. The music industry tried to play hardball by allowing every other company that would meet there demands to sell DRM free music and not allow Apple to sell music from the iPhone over the cellular network - only wifi.
6. By 2008. They came to an agreement. Apple would allow variable pricing and the music industry would allow them to sell songs over the cellular network.
If I abused my car and had accidents, I would also have to replace my car. The first gen iPhone supports 2G which is still supported by AT&T until next year.
https://www.business.att.com/content/other/2G-Sunset-FAQ_2016.pdf
The cost of a new iPhone ranges from $399 to $999. There is no repair that is only a little cheaper than an iPhone if you choose to keep it.
No one forces you to change phones every 24 to 36 months.
Apple supports their phones with updates longer than any other manufacturer. Even without updates, you can still use a first generation iPhone today.
Apple has been selling basically the same form factor -- the iPhone 5 for over four years.
- Call me when a car maker start to require you to replace your car every 24months (replacing the whole car, I mean. Literally. Not over billing you for a simple software update over some proprietary extension to the ODB port that they charge metaphorically as expensive as a new car).
Not only does Apple not force you to replace their phone every 24 months. If you bought an iPhone 4s in September of 2011, you are still receiving updates.
Apple hasn't sold DRM'd music since 2008.
Why is that a bad thing? We love being able to buy tickets in advance and being able to choose our seats before we get there. We don't have to worry about whether we will have good seats. If we look online and there are no good seats, we choose another time.
Exactly. The movie theatres we go to have a nice large screen, a great sound system, reserved seating where you can choose your seats in advance, reclining seats and every seat except the first two rows are good and unobstructed.
Another movie theatre we go to has all of the above plus being able to order food and drinks (alcoholic and non alcoholic) at your seat.
All that being said. We only go to the movies for heavy special efforts laden movies.
If you are willing to pay "twice as much" for better content, then why not subscribe to Netflix in addition to Hulu (Epix), HBO, Starz, or Showtime?
Again that's Google's fault. The carrier isn't involved in iOS updates. Why should the carrier be involved at all? My ISP doesn't have anything to do with when my computer receives updates. What's the difference?
Windows manufacturers have been adding crap to the default installations for over two decades but users have always been able to get security updates from MS.
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36% insignificant? That's the difference between 3 hours and four hours of video.
How many phones have hardware support for WebM? Without hardware support, it will be worse on battery life than H.264.
There is no trade deal that doesn't cause prices to go up. You have to make it cost less for companies to manufacturer in the U.S. than overseas. The only ways to do that is to raise the cost of importing goods or subsidizing manufacturers - with taxpayers money.
So what do you think happens when we start trade wars? The price of everything goes up we import causing us to pay more and the price of everything we export goes up making it harder to compete. Why is it good to artificially inflate the wage of the "working class" via tariffs and import restrictions but not good to increase the minimum wage?
But who is ultimately responsible? If you're under 24, it's pretty hard to get over your head in student loan debt without having a parent to co-sign.
We set the expectations with both of our children that we would not co-sign a loan for them at all for the first two years, and that the first two years was their responsibility.
That means they would have to either get a scholarship - my state offers free tuition for any state college if you meet the requirements -- or get loans in their own name up to the limit of what they could get for themselves (around $6000/year). They could stay at home and we would provide a car for them.
After the first two years and if they kept a 3.0, we would pay to make up the difference in cost to go to a public college in state and pay room and board if they wanted to go off to school. If they lost their scholarship, they would have to go to a school that they could commute to from home.
It's not the corporations fault that students and their parents are taking out outrageous loans to go to expensive schools to get degrees in markets that aren't in demand. Most of these students could stay at home, go to a two year college much cheaper and transfer to an in state public college and not have huge student loan debt.
I went to an unknown state college, stayed at home and within three years I was making just as much as people going to expensive private colleges.
Trump is trying to get funded by the same people and organizations as every other republican.
It is amazing that the same "working class" that who during the Reagan years were so eager to tell poor people to "pick themselves up by their bootstraps, and stop blaming the government for all their problems" are now complaining about the government and not being able to get ahead.