Collaborative projects are a myth perpetrated by Eric Raymond, amongst other banal and trite observations which gave him his fifteen minutes.
The "open source" model has again warped the true meaning of free software, which is freedom to modify the software to suit yourself in spite of whatever the upstream maintainer thinks.
If the new code is applied upstream, more power to you! Either way everyone wins; maintainers don't have to implement features they don't think necessary but you may add them if you wish and share them with others if you desire.
I'd suggest a 4m box like a 4/5/10/20/IPX/IPC, 4c boxes are too old. An ultra 1/2 would be ideal and are super slick running debian after you've been an admin for a few years and are sick of solaris.;)
What you really want to learn is the trickery of sparc hardware which is basically all at the boot prompt, stuff like reconfiguring devices and single user mode.
After that, run up solaris on intel and learn the ins and out of it, basically the same as sparc as far as software is concerned.You'll have a much faster machine unless you want to buy an Ultra, and you can install OpenBSD(4c) or Debian (4m+) on your sparc and have a neat little system.
Try out the differences between sysv and Linux/BSD style systems like NFS, as well as things that are just broken out of the box. Read fixsolaris.txt.(!)
Learn that solaris is just a solid kernel with the basic tools, as with most sysv systems. Ignore the rest of the crap unless you really need it (gui tools). Learn low level commandline configuration and you'll be right (you can't get the disksuite gui up on a terminal). Other cool stuff costs money (veritas).
I'm running Potato on an Ultra1 and a SS5 right now and it is very nice on Sparc. My U1 desktop with 128MB could easily step into place as a production system here, and be as good as any Solaris system.
As far as binaries go, most free software available for intel is also available for debian sparc. One point being overlooked is that if you want to run non-free software, UltraLinux can run Solaris binaries...
Power button on top to prevent accidental power offs
clever indeed, but with my power button on front box, I've never had such a problem... has anyone? I like to pile things on top of my case... I'd imagine that would result in more power-offs for me.
I wire the useless reset button in series with the power switch to provide some insurance against accidents and children. BTW, my case is a giant yellow cat which tends to attract such attention...
Tin supplied with Debian Slink thinks all the newsgroups in active are new (in NNTP mode). Tin supplied with potato crashes when it reads its configs. Anyone else notice?
Anyone else notice quite a lot of comments on this issue bagged RMS as a loony but still took an alarmist stance towards this breach of the GPL? If anyone were to stand up for the rights of GPL it would be the Debian community, who are just as staunch about freedom as RMS. That's probably why Corel chose Debian, you are always assured of the GNU ideal when using the Debian OS. It seems like the "rambling" GNU "communists" are the most rational after all!
I don't want to deride Linus' contributions, but he's generally been credited for creating an OS by plugging a kernel into GNU. True, that was the one thing sorely lacking in GNU, but GNU is much more without Linux than Linux is without GNU.
Linus and others are credited for being visionary and ascetic. In truth these people are following the Way of the FSF, and they shouldn't forget it.
The quicker people are shilled away from the core philosophies of the FSF, the quicker we'll lose what made GNU/Linux special.
I cannot consider RMS a zealot, just because he is assertive of his achievements and his brainchild(ren). What has ESR done for free software besides write essays? I recall cathedral/bazaar harped on about the virtues of the GPL model in preference to BSD/closed house and proprietary models.
How dare he then turn around and bag GPL ideals? I couldn't care less that Joe Average doesn't "get it", so what? I couldn't care less if commercial companies don't get it either. RMS knows his mind, and the greatest social changes take time.
The only reason commercial offerings like Corel are jumping on the bandwagon is to be the proprietary standard. It's only a matter of time before a free alternative becomes available and all of these companies know it.
Case, who would buy photoshop or such when there's Gimp? I'd like to see analagous products to compete in all facets.
The OpenSource semantic isn't what's putting free software in the the enterprise, it's the grassroots actions of sysadmins such as myself who have run GNU tools for years on whatever *ix machines they're working with.
Screw you ESR, and screw commercial moneygrabbers. If you want to spend money and sacrifice freedom, you may as well stick with the competition.
FTR, what sort of moron could possibly label RMS as a communist? Can't you see the self-regulating anarchy he's espousing?
I thought this whole movement was based on the wants of the users, not what the management thinks the users want. This is what we're all escaping from by using Linux.
If Rasterman's feedback indicates that this is good, then it's good for the users. Even if this goes against what management thinks.
I'd like to see this sort of test with a third, control group thrown in for good measure, such as Solaris. I personally couldn't give two hoots about NT vs anything, it's not unix which is all I want on my systems, and I'm sure there's a lot of managers out there who think the same.
NT and unix are too disparate for a balanced comparison, high-end Solaris vs Linux comparisons would offer a clearer perspective in the real world.
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Collaborative projects are a myth perpetrated by Eric Raymond, amongst other banal and trite observations which gave him his fifteen minutes.
The "open source" model has again warped the true meaning of free software, which is freedom to modify the software to suit yourself in spite of whatever the upstream maintainer thinks.
If the new code is applied upstream, more power to you! Either way everyone wins; maintainers don't have to implement features they don't think necessary but you may add them if you wish and share them with others if you desire.
I'd suggest a 4m box like a 4/5/10/20/IPX/IPC, 4c boxes are too old. An ultra 1/2 would be ideal and are super slick running debian after you've been an admin for a few years and are sick of solaris. ;)
What you really want to learn is the trickery of sparc hardware which is basically all at the boot prompt, stuff like reconfiguring devices and single user mode.
After that, run up solaris on intel and learn the ins and out of it, basically the same as sparc as far as software is concerned.You'll have a much faster machine unless you want to buy an Ultra, and you can install OpenBSD(4c) or Debian (4m+) on your sparc and have a neat little system.
Try out the differences between sysv and Linux/BSD style systems like NFS, as well as things that are just broken out of the box. Read fixsolaris.txt.(!)
Learn that solaris is just a solid kernel with the basic tools, as with most sysv systems. Ignore the rest of the crap unless you really need it (gui tools). Learn low level commandline configuration and you'll be right (you can't get the disksuite gui up on a terminal). Other cool stuff costs money (veritas).
I'm running Potato on an Ultra1 and a SS5 right now and it is very nice on Sparc. My U1 desktop with 128MB could easily step into place as a production system here, and be as good as any Solaris system.
As far as binaries go, most free software available for intel is also available for debian sparc. One point being overlooked is that if you want to run non-free software, UltraLinux can run Solaris binaries...
I wire the useless reset button in series with the power switch to provide some insurance against accidents and children. BTW, my case is a giant yellow cat which tends to attract such attention...
It's not that hard to log IDs with ident, available on most platforms. You can log and trace anything if you feel the need.
Tin supplied with Debian Slink thinks all the newsgroups in active are new (in NNTP mode). Tin supplied with potato crashes when it reads its configs. Anyone else notice?
Maybe Yahoo are just covering their arse, lest UniSys buys up the patent. :P
Anyone else notice quite a lot of comments on this
issue bagged RMS as a loony but still took an
alarmist stance towards this breach of the GPL?
If anyone were to stand up for the rights of GPL
it would be the Debian community, who are just as
staunch about freedom as RMS.
That's probably why Corel chose Debian, you are
always assured of the GNU ideal when using the
Debian OS. It seems like the "rambling" GNU
"communists" are the most rational after all!
"...by giving people a free ride."
I don't want to deride Linus' contributions, but he's generally been credited for creating an OS by plugging a kernel into GNU. True, that was the one thing sorely lacking in GNU, but GNU is much more without Linux than Linux is without GNU.
Linus and others are credited for being visionary and ascetic. In truth these people are following the Way of the FSF, and they shouldn't forget it.
The quicker people are shilled away from the core philosophies of the FSF, the quicker we'll lose what made GNU/Linux special.
IF games have the best graphics possible, just like books
Hey, there's still a few years good hacking with the Hurd. At least Linux will steer the world back to Unix like OS's, thus be a better place. :)
I cannot consider RMS a zealot, just because he is assertive of his achievements and his brainchild(ren). What has ESR done for free software besides write essays? I recall cathedral/bazaar harped on about the virtues of the GPL model in preference to BSD/closed house and proprietary models.
How dare he then turn around and bag GPL ideals?
I couldn't care less that Joe Average doesn't "get it", so what? I couldn't care less if commercial companies don't get it either. RMS knows his mind, and the greatest social changes take time.
The only reason commercial offerings like Corel are jumping on the bandwagon is to be the proprietary standard. It's only a matter of time before a free alternative becomes available and all of these companies know it.
Case, who would buy photoshop or such when there's Gimp? I'd like to see analagous products to compete in all facets.
The OpenSource semantic isn't what's putting free software in the the enterprise, it's the grassroots actions of sysadmins such as myself who have run GNU tools for years on whatever *ix machines they're working with.
Screw you ESR, and screw commercial moneygrabbers. If you want to spend money and sacrifice freedom, you may as well stick with the competition.
FTR, what sort of moron could possibly label RMS as a communist? Can't you see the self-regulating anarchy he's espousing?
I thought this whole movement was based on the wants of the users, not what the management thinks the users want. This is what we're all escaping from by using Linux.
If Rasterman's feedback indicates that this is good, then it's good for the users. Even if this goes against what management thinks.
I'd like to see this sort of test with a third, control group thrown in for good measure, such as Solaris. I personally couldn't give two hoots about NT vs anything, it's not unix which is all I want on my systems, and I'm sure there's a lot of managers out there who think the same.
NT and unix are too disparate for a balanced comparison, high-end Solaris vs Linux comparisons would offer a clearer perspective in the real world.