Seriously, Gentoo is not suitable for servers at all, especially not for production machines. Apart from the CPU cycles spend compiling, Gentoo doesn't have the quality control that some other distros have.
Now, I don't hate Gentoo, but it's not ment for servers.
But they can do it now because no one has done it yet. In ten years that argument may not work. If China does it now, they become the world leaders in Maglev. If they don't do it now, they keep playing catch up as they have with most other things in the past 50 years.
But would they really be a world leader? It would be the worlds first long-distance maglev train, but the technology is German, and the trains are manufactured in Germany and shipped to China.
Even China cannot justify the expense of a maglev train from Bejing to Shanghai.
I remember reading somewhere that they've decided to construct a regular high speed rail line instead, similar to France's TGV or Germany's ICE. Economically, it makes a lot more sense, and until the dedicated high speed line is constructed, the trains can use the current railroad infrastructure that is already in place. Here's a link to the proposal, which has been in planning for a while already. The Chinese have already constructed a prototype high-speed train engine based on the Swedish X2000 train.
Regular high-speed rail as opposed to a maglev line also makes expansion to other regions of the country a lot easier.
Still, a long-distance maglev line would have been really cool, and there's got to be a region where it would make economical sense as well. Maybe we'll see one in Japan first.
>Not counting oxygen failures, several fires, and the odd collision with a supply ship. Mir functioned. It certainly did not function well. And keep in mind that the realistic, incremental approach is what gave us the Space Shuttle and the ISS.
Remember, Mir was designed to operate for five years only. Originally, the then-USSR planned to launch a new station then. Hoever, the USSR collapsed (thankfully), and Russia decided to keep Mir operating longer.
Mir was used for over twice its designed lifespan. That's impressive, if you ask me.
>Our goal is to get everything we do into Debian. Sometimes, Debian might not want it, or the package maintainer may be slow to accept it. So, I think we will end up having our own repository for fixes. But if we are unable to get Debian to take stuff, it is more expensive for us to maintain - we have incentive to work with Debian.
Sounds great. Having all that integrated into Debian is really going to rock.
Since this is going to be a desktop distribution, how is it going to handle multimedia? Will it only support patent-free media formats or might there be a completely legal way to include, for example. mp3 (and other media formats) support?
Thanks for all your hard work.
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When it's Americans being forbidden to work in a foreign country, it's that country's right to do so.But if it were the other way around, and Indian people coming to this country were suddenly forbidden to work here, imagine the uproar that would cause among Slashdotters!
Actually, it's pretty much the same in the US, except that getting a US work permit is easier than getting one for India, since the US is a country based on immigration, while India isn't.
Metacity has 'Move to Workspace 1/2...' in it's right click menu.
Also, you can drag a window into another virtual desktop in the pager. This was possible in 1.2 already.
One thing they should be able to do with is money is investigate the interesting readings they've been getting from proxima centuri, where several M class planets have been discovered.
Proxima Centauri is a small red-dwarf that orbits the Alpha Centauri double-star system. Proxima Centauri will very probably not have any Earh-like planets, and the chance of Alpha Centauri having any isn't big either due to the nature of double-star systems.
Star Trek, while a fun show to watch, does not equal truue science.
GTK has nothing to do with window shadows, the WM does them.
GTK is a GUI API only. If you want window shadows in GNOME (the desktop environment that uses the GTK API), you need a WM that supports them, so suggest window shadows to the sawfish and the metacity teams, since those two are the WM's most commonly used with GNOME.
>I'd bet that Airbus would kill to be able to use a CargoLifter airship. This is exactly what they are designed for. Can quietly transport 160 metric tons of any size and shape, for drop off at any location.
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>Oh dear. Looks like they are going bankrupt.
Not only that. I read an article in "Der Spiegel" saying that Cargolifter never had the ability to build a big cargo airship, that the company was a big fraud.
Cargo airships are a great idea, especially for transporting big, bulky things, without having to go through countless hurdles in order to move.
Using big airships would make transporting big stuff a lot cheaper in the end.
For those interested, here are the bottom 10:
129 Lybia
130 Irak
131 Viet Nam
132 Eritrea
133 Laos
134 Cuba
135 Bhutan
136 Turkmenistan
137 Burma
138 China
139 North Korea
I'm sad to see this proposed system fail.
It would have opened up so many possibilities, especially for regions with no broadband, or even no internet access at all, especially because it was supposed to have been far cheaper than the current offerings.
What suprises me is all the Microsoft ranting right now. Just because Bill Gates decided to help finance this doomed project? That is plain imature. I'm not the biggest fan of Windows either, but just because Bill Gates decide to help finance something doesn't mean that it's going to be bad.
I was annoyed to find that the Linux (Unix) clients dont do pretty graphs, like the windows clients.
as far as I could tell all we get is a deamon, which is all well nice, but I was after a nice screen saver for X too.
Actually, there is a nifty graphical application. Run 'setiathome' with the '-graphics' option and then run 'xsetiathome'. It might not be fullscreen, but you get a window with the exact same content as the Windows screensaver.
People in Europe can send e-mail ( and even receive, yeah! ) from any hillside, roadside or rooftop they want using the GSM/GPRS network, there must be something more interesting that you can do what public Wi-Fi networks?
Well, yes, but GPRS isn't exactly cheap, so sending and receiving big e-mails can become quite expensive.
And using the cellphone provides e-mail, yes, that's possible, but if you're stuck with T-Mobile D like me, you have to pay for the mails you receive.
So yes, it's possible, but if you use it often, it'll cost you a lot of money
"As for those evil Americans "inventing weapons of war", well guess what---your using one of those "weapons" right now. The Internet started as DARPANET--A Defense Department network designed to keep communication going during nuclear attack."
While it may be a bit out of your way, the various Smithonians in Washington, DC are very interessting and lots of fun.
You should be prepared to spend a couple of days, though, as there are a lot of museums, and some of them are quite large. For example, I spend 8 hours in the National Air and Space Museum alone.
Also, be sure to check out some of the awesome geographt you'll be passing, like the Rocky Mountains or Yellowstone, and even the huge cornfield in the Midwest can be exiting.
You should be able to cope without internet access of a while, but in an emergency, you should be able to find an internet cafe or you could use a laptop with a 56k modem. Hotels and camping grounds should have someplace where you're allowed to plug in a modem.
So what is the exact difference between the $5 and the $30 subscriptions?
Do the $30 subscribers get more bandwidth, faster access to updates, or even more stuff?
Redhat has to offer something to still get people to get the more expensive subscription
Damn, why didn't I know of this earlier.
It would have been fun to place a cache the last time I went on a desert trip, right in the middle of nowhere.;-)
Maybe because the US so damn huge that it would be unfeasable to set up a complete GSM network. Europe has a much higher population density, which is why GSM is more feasable there.
Somehow I couldn't imagine GSM masts all through North Dakota and Montana.
Linux can definetly be used as a multimedia OS. The only thing it still can't do as well is edit videos (Don't start with Broadcast 2000) and professional audio editing.
Linux is definitely a multimedia OS, unlike BeOS, which I have to say, is dead.
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That's why there are tools like apt, yum, or emerge, if you want to compile it yourself.
No one in their right mind would compile GNOME (or KDE or OpenOffice.org) from source tarballs unless you had a very specific reason for doing that.
http://www.greenfly.org/mes.html
Seriously, Gentoo is not suitable for servers at all, especially not for production machines. Apart from the CPU cycles spend compiling, Gentoo doesn't have the quality control that some other distros have.
Now, I don't hate Gentoo, but it's not ment for servers.
But they can do it now because no one has done it yet. In ten years that argument may not work. If China does it now, they become the world leaders in Maglev. If they don't do it now, they keep playing catch up as they have with most other things in the past 50 years. But would they really be a world leader? It would be the worlds first long-distance maglev train, but the technology is German, and the trains are manufactured in Germany and shipped to China.
Even China cannot justify the expense of a maglev train from Bejing to Shanghai.
I remember reading somewhere that they've decided to construct a regular high speed rail line instead, similar to France's TGV or Germany's ICE. Economically, it makes a lot more sense, and until the dedicated high speed line is constructed, the trains can use the current railroad infrastructure that is already in place.
Here's a link to the proposal, which has been in planning for a while already. The Chinese have already constructed a prototype high-speed train engine based on the Swedish X2000 train.
Regular high-speed rail as opposed to a maglev line also makes expansion to other regions of the country a lot easier.
Still, a long-distance maglev line would have been really cool, and there's got to be a region where it would make economical sense as well. Maybe we'll see one in Japan first.
>Not counting oxygen failures, several fires, and the odd collision with a supply ship. Mir functioned. It certainly did not function well. And keep in mind that the realistic, incremental approach is what gave us the Space Shuttle and the ISS.
Remember, Mir was designed to operate for five years only. Originally, the then-USSR planned to launch a new station then. Hoever, the USSR collapsed (thankfully), and Russia decided to keep Mir operating longer.
Mir was used for over twice its designed lifespan. That's impressive, if you ask me.
>Our goal is to get everything we do into Debian. Sometimes, Debian might not want it, or the package maintainer may be slow to accept it. So, I think we will end up having our own repository for fixes. But if we are unable to get Debian to take stuff, it is more expensive for us to maintain - we have incentive to work with Debian. Sounds great. Having all that integrated into Debian is really going to rock.
Since this is going to be a desktop distribution, how is it going to handle multimedia? Will it only support patent-free media formats or might there be a completely legal way to include, for example. mp3 (and other media formats) support?
Thanks for all your hard work.
When it's Americans being forbidden to work in a foreign country, it's that country's right to do so. But if it were the other way around, and Indian people coming to this country were suddenly forbidden to work here, imagine the uproar that would cause among Slashdotters! Actually, it's pretty much the same in the US, except that getting a US work permit is easier than getting one for India, since the US is a country based on immigration, while India isn't.
Metacity has 'Move to Workspace 1/2...' in it's right click menu.
Also, you can drag a window into another virtual desktop in the pager. This was possible in 1.2 already.
One thing they should be able to do with is money is investigate the interesting readings they've been getting from proxima centuri, where several M class planets have been discovered.
Proxima Centauri is a small red-dwarf that orbits the Alpha Centauri double-star system. Proxima Centauri will very probably not have any Earh-like planets, and the chance of Alpha Centauri having any isn't big either due to the nature of double-star systems.
Star Trek, while a fun show to watch, does not equal truue science.
GTK has nothing to do with window shadows, the WM does them.
GTK is a GUI API only. If you want window shadows in GNOME (the desktop environment that uses the GTK API), you need a WM that supports them, so suggest window shadows to the sawfish and the metacity teams, since those two are the WM's most commonly used with GNOME.
>I'd bet that Airbus would kill to be able to use a CargoLifter airship. This is exactly what they are designed for. Can quietly transport 160 metric tons of any size and shape, for drop off at any location.
>
>Oh dear. Looks like they are going bankrupt.
Not only that. I read an article in "Der Spiegel" saying that Cargolifter never had the ability to build a big cargo airship, that the company was a big fraud.
Cargo airships are a great idea, especially for transporting big, bulky things, without having to go through countless hurdles in order to move. Using big airships would make transporting big stuff a lot cheaper in the end.
Yes. If the game the small company offers is good, why shouldn't they be able to compete.
Most big companies aren't evil and *gasp* even allow competition.
For those interested, here are the bottom 10:
129 Lybia
130 Irak
131 Viet Nam
132 Eritrea
133 Laos
134 Cuba
135 Bhutan
136 Turkmenistan
137 Burma
138 China
139 North Korea
Not all that suprising.
I'm sad to see this proposed system fail.
It would have opened up so many possibilities, especially for regions with no broadband, or even no internet access at all, especially because it was supposed to have been far cheaper than the current offerings.
What suprises me is all the Microsoft ranting right now. Just because Bill Gates decided to help finance this doomed project? That is plain imature. I'm not the biggest fan of Windows either, but just because Bill Gates decide to help finance something doesn't mean that it's going to be bad.
I was annoyed to find that the Linux (Unix) clients dont do pretty graphs, like the windows clients.
as far as I could tell all we get is a deamon, which is all well nice, but I was after a nice screen saver for X too.
Actually, there is a nifty graphical application. Run 'setiathome' with the '-graphics' option and then run 'xsetiathome'. It might not be fullscreen, but you get a window with the exact same content as the Windows screensaver.
People in Europe can send e-mail ( and even receive, yeah! ) from any hillside, roadside or rooftop they want using the GSM/GPRS network, there must be something more interesting that you can do what public Wi-Fi networks?
Well, yes, but GPRS isn't exactly cheap, so sending and receiving big e-mails can become quite expensive.
And using the cellphone provides e-mail, yes, that's possible, but if you're stuck with T-Mobile D like me, you have to pay for the mails you receive.
So yes, it's possible, but if you use it often, it'll cost you a lot of money
>My question is what kind of throughput can you get over the average Egyptian phone line? I somehow doubt that it's a solid 56K from most locations.
Having lived in Egypt for 4 years, I can say that the average throughput is not good. I usually got no more than 40kbps.
"As for those evil Americans "inventing weapons of war", well guess what---your using one of those "weapons" right now. The Internet started as DARPANET--A Defense Department network designed to keep communication going during nuclear attack."
Not really. For an interesting read on how the Internet began, check out Where Wizard Stay Up Late.
While it may be a bit out of your way, the various Smithonians in Washington, DC are very interessting and lots of fun.
You should be prepared to spend a couple of days, though, as there are a lot of museums, and some of them are quite large. For example, I spend 8 hours in the National Air and Space Museum alone.
Also, be sure to check out some of the awesome geographt you'll be passing, like the Rocky Mountains or Yellowstone, and even the huge cornfield in the Midwest can be exiting.
You should be able to cope without internet access of a while, but in an emergency, you should be able to find an internet cafe or you could use a laptop with a 56k modem. Hotels and camping grounds should have someplace where you're allowed to plug in a modem.
So what is the exact difference between the $5 and the $30 subscriptions?
Do the $30 subscribers get more bandwidth, faster access to updates, or even more stuff?
Redhat has to offer something to still get people to get the more expensive subscription
Damn, why didn't I know of this earlier. ;-)
It would have been fun to place a cache the last time I went on a desert trip, right in the middle of nowhere.
->The question is simple: if you're already w4r3zing Windows, what refrains you from w4r3zing your scientific software also
Easy. It's a lot easier to find a copy of Windows than it is to find a copy of any specialised scientific program.
Maybe because the US so damn huge that it would be unfeasable to set up a complete GSM network. Europe has a much higher population density, which is why GSM is more feasable there.
Somehow I couldn't imagine GSM masts all through North Dakota and Montana.
AFAIK, XP stands for the 2 greek letters pronounced khai and rho.
Khai-Rho == Cairo, IIRC, the codename MS used for the first 32bit Windows
I'm not sure wether I should laugh or cry.
Linux can definetly be used as a multimedia OS. The only thing it still can't do as well is edit videos (Don't start with Broadcast 2000) and professional audio editing.
Linux is definitely a multimedia OS, unlike BeOS, which I have to say, is dead.