No, it's simple economics. The price point is set to a level the market is willing to pay.
Maybe the problem is not the cost of the CD, but the quality of the music you are listening to. I tend to prefer artists who put out albums rather than one hit wonders, and as such well over half my collection I would value at far more than I paid for the CD just from the pure pleasure it has afforded me.
If you are listening to crap like Mariah Carey, it's no surprise you think CDs should sell for $1.
It's one thing to accuse the government of being corrupt. It's quite another to pin the blame for this corruption on the very parties who tried to clean it up.
I'd very much appreciate you explaining each one of these incidents.
I'm very much curious what you think Janet Reno did that was wrong. The only thing I can recall is her listening to the Republican appointees in the FBI when she first took office. Thus begat Waco. Both her and President Clinton apologized for that, and cleaned house in the FBI.
What always amazes me is how ignorant, stupid and partisan Republicans are. This idiot is trying to pin the blame for Ruby Ridge on the Clinton Administration when the event occured in '92.
But I'll bet back in '92 if it had gained any news coverage this moron would have claimed we shouldn't criticize the FBI because that's not patriotic.
It makes me want to puke just thinking that my family has died protecting the rights of scum like this.
Listen, if it doesn't belong to you, you don't have any rights over it. This guy was a contractor at Intel, yet he tried to crack their password file without permission. Can you not understand why Intel was a bit upset?
If you haven't read the specifics of the case, maybe you should just not comment.
"If there's no damage to the data on the system, then why compare it to blowing up a bank vault? And if the bank "robber" is only trying combinations, well, how did he get into the bank in the first place? He probably broke in, so again, there is damage to property. "
Who said anything about blowing up a bank vault?
Furthermore, for the analogy to fit this situation it is quite obvious that the person we are talking about works at the bank. So no break-in occured.
Duh!
As far as your comparison of password files and car doors. It'd be like walking down the road trying to jimmy the car doors open. It's not accidental, it's not just looking, it's active participation to break the security mechanisms put in place.
Cracking research is a healthy activity, on your own time, with your own password file.
Sheesh, I can't believe the idiots defending this child.
"Are there any other broadband services, other than the ones in Australia, continually degrading their service to customers? "
Broadband services? No
But this past year at work our network admins blocked ports after finding 3 PCs in the company were consuming 1/3rd of the bandwidth of our corporate T3 with Napster.
So not broadband services, but Napster is responsible for degrading the service of thousands of persons at my company. I would imagine the same is true for DSL and cable users as well which is why they are throttling it's usage.
Oh, you didn't want to hear that Napster is evil, did you? Too bad.
I suspect if you were caught trying to crack into a bank vault you'd be thrown in jail whether or not you actually intended to steal any of the money inside.
"His interest in doing so was mere curiosity to see what percentage of passwords could be cracked. "
Well now he knows what the consequences of his curiousity is.
A child may have been left off because they don't know any better, but adults are supposed to understand the boundaries of acceptable behavior.
"And this is why "you in the industry" are in the process of running your insanely profitable businesses into the ground. "
Afraid not sonny.
While certain sectors of the tech market have had a downturn this past year, the area I work in is doing gangbusters.
It's bizarre that you assumed I worked in the music industry.
Now back to your regularly scheduled illogical argument...
*YOU* have a choice.
You can either pay for the music and listen to it.
Or you can not listen to the music.
Since recorded music is a luxury item and not a subsistence item, you do not have any inherent moral right to steal it because it is being denied to you.
"They do not want to licence their products for sale on the internet."
No, they just don't want to give their product away for free. They're perfectly willing to sell on the internet, but they don't want to be in a position where they only see 1 sale for every 1,000 people listening.
"It's up to us to put pressure on them to licence their music. "
But they want to license their music.
"A good way to do that is to swap MP3s. "
A good way to convince BMW to sell cars for $100 is to steal them?
Your post is what we in the industry call clueless.
"the Mozilla project, and how AOL basicly forces people to use their gecko-based browser instead of IE, so the web is not in too much immediate danger of falling into a MSIE-only club."
I love this.
Screw user choice, screw competition, IE is too good, we have to force people to use some other piece of crap.
Agreed. Our company is largish and we have a Premier support agreement with Microsoft. Microsoft even pays to have one of their staff here full time to answer questions, mostly relating with how to use products, evaluations and such.
But any time we have a problem we easily get direct support from the developers.
We have had similar experience with Oracle, EMC, HP, Compaq and the other vendors we use.
The quality of support provided with Linux is better than what you would receive as a regular home user, but it's nowhere near the quality or responsiveness of the paid services these established companies offer.
It's convenient to say that Microsoft illegally prevented it, so therefore it never grew.
It's much harder to prove that without this scapegoat Be would have been successful. There were plenty of computers available with Be on them, but nobody bought those. Why is that?
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"The price point currently set is arbitrary. "
No, it's simple economics. The price point is set to a level the market is willing to pay.
Maybe the problem is not the cost of the CD, but the quality of the music you are listening to. I tend to prefer artists who put out albums rather than one hit wonders, and as such well over half my collection I would value at far more than I paid for the CD just from the pure pleasure it has afforded me.
If you are listening to crap like Mariah Carey, it's no surprise you think CDs should sell for $1.
Maybe you should restrict your listening to Rush Limbaugh and your television watching to FoxNews.
Then you can get good old fashioned right-wing leaning bullshit without none of that pretending to be unbiased crap you get on regular media outlets.
So what do you think is a reasonable price for a CD?
I obviously think $15 is, because that's the price I keep paying and I buy about 3 CD's a month.
There are commercial products from Mercury Interactive, Rational and so forth that do this.
The "real world" isn't afraid to spend a little bit of money.
I have never found the Mac GUI to be all that superior.
Even when I owned an Amiga I found the Mac GUI to be crude.
It's strange that this myth keeps being repeated.
"Whereas the Democrats are paragons of virtue and cooperation. Bullshit. Where do you get off? "
No, Democrats are just smart enough to know when they are lying.
It's one thing to accuse the government of being corrupt. It's quite another to pin the blame for this corruption on the very parties who tried to clean it up.
I'd very much appreciate you explaining each one of these incidents.
I'm very much curious what you think Janet Reno did that was wrong. The only thing I can recall is her listening to the Republican appointees in the FBI when she first took office. Thus begat Waco. Both her and President Clinton apologized for that, and cleaned house in the FBI.
What always amazes me is how ignorant, stupid and partisan Republicans are. This idiot is trying to pin the blame for Ruby Ridge on the Clinton Administration when the event occured in '92.
But I'll bet back in '92 if it had gained any news coverage this moron would have claimed we shouldn't criticize the FBI because that's not patriotic.
It makes me want to puke just thinking that my family has died protecting the rights of scum like this.
That's interesting, I wasn't aware Adobe was pressing any charges. Seems I recall them withdrawing from the case, and it's not the DoJ's game.
Listen, if it doesn't belong to you, you don't have any rights over it. This guy was a contractor at Intel, yet he tried to crack their password file without permission. Can you not understand why Intel was a bit upset?
If you haven't read the specifics of the case, maybe you should just not comment.
"If there's no damage to the data on the system, then why compare it to blowing up a bank vault? And if the bank "robber" is only trying combinations, well, how did he get into the bank in the first place? He probably broke in, so again, there is damage to property. "
Who said anything about blowing up a bank vault?
Furthermore, for the analogy to fit this situation it is quite obvious that the person we are talking about works at the bank. So no break-in occured.
Duh!
As far as your comparison of password files and car doors. It'd be like walking down the road trying to jimmy the car doors open. It's not accidental, it's not just looking, it's active participation to break the security mechanisms put in place.
Cracking research is a healthy activity, on your own time, with your own password file.
Sheesh, I can't believe the idiots defending this child.
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to totally shred your stupid argument with a simple analogy.
"Are there any other broadband services, other than the ones in Australia, continually degrading their service to customers? "
Broadband services? No
But this past year at work our network admins blocked ports after finding 3 PCs in the company were consuming 1/3rd of the bandwidth of our corporate T3 with Napster.
So not broadband services, but Napster is responsible for degrading the service of thousands of persons at my company. I would imagine the same is true for DSL and cable users as well which is why they are throttling it's usage.
Oh, you didn't want to hear that Napster is evil, did you? Too bad.
I suspect if you were caught trying to crack into a bank vault you'd be thrown in jail whether or not you actually intended to steal any of the money inside.
"His interest in doing so was mere curiosity to see what percentage of passwords could be cracked. "
Well now he knows what the consequences of his curiousity is.
A child may have been left off because they don't know any better, but adults are supposed to understand the boundaries of acceptable behavior.
It's not difficult to obtain double digit growth numbers when your marketshare is only .24%.
"And this is why "you in the industry" are in the process of running your insanely profitable businesses into the ground. "
Afraid not sonny.
While certain sectors of the tech market have had a downturn this past year, the area I work in is doing gangbusters.
It's bizarre that you assumed I worked in the music industry.
Now back to your regularly scheduled illogical argument...
*YOU* have a choice.
You can either pay for the music and listen to it.
Or you can not listen to the music.
Since recorded music is a luxury item and not a subsistence item, you do not have any inherent moral right to steal it because it is being denied to you.
Thus ends today's lesson on morality.
"They do not want to licence their products for sale on the internet."
No, they just don't want to give their product away for free. They're perfectly willing to sell on the internet, but they don't want to be in a position where they only see 1 sale for every 1,000 people listening.
"It's up to us to put pressure on them to licence their music. "
But they want to license their music.
"A good way to do that is to swap MP3s. "
A good way to convince BMW to sell cars for $100 is to steal them?
Your post is what we in the industry call clueless.
"the Mozilla project, and how AOL basicly forces people to use their gecko-based browser instead of IE, so the web is not in too much immediate danger of falling into a MSIE-only club."
I love this.
Screw user choice, screw competition, IE is too good, we have to force people to use some other piece of crap.
What an incredibly assinine position to take.
"I've wished I could FTP or Telnet into my Windows NT (Win2K) "
Then why don't you just enable the services?
Win2k has both telnet and ftp servers out of the box, they just need to be enabled(telnet) or installed(ftp).
Agreed. Our company is largish and we have a Premier support agreement with Microsoft. Microsoft even pays to have one of their staff here full time to answer questions, mostly relating with how to use products, evaluations and such.
But any time we have a problem we easily get direct support from the developers.
We have had similar experience with Oracle, EMC, HP, Compaq and the other vendors we use.
The quality of support provided with Linux is better than what you would receive as a regular home user, but it's nowhere near the quality or responsiveness of the paid services these established companies offer.
Obviously I'm being moderated down by militant Hamas representatives who don't want you to know the truth!
Hey, this sounds like a good idea for a business plan.
We could call it mp3.com
It'll be a huge success!
If the music really sucked, you wouldn't be listening to it.
Instead you go out of your way to steal it off Napster.
Prove it.
It's convenient to say that Microsoft illegally prevented it, so therefore it never grew.
It's much harder to prove that without this scapegoat Be would have been successful. There were plenty of computers available with Be on them, but nobody bought those. Why is that?
Members of the militant group Hamas have claimed responsibility for file corruption issue found in the Linux 2.4.15 kernel.
That would be the Power line bridge:
:)
http://www.linksys.com/products/plbridge.asp
Linksys is way ahead of you!
You're right, I immediately thought about things like the XBox or the Sonicblue audio receiver, and so forth.