Er, I think you're missing my point - that Packer's not acting without expert intel. As to the how I "visualize the idea working out"? I'm not a bloody bio scientist... you're the one throwing around vague generalizations and poor science, not me. I'm just suggesting that there are people smarter than you that have most likely went to Packard with the idea, not necessarily the other way around. "Whacked and Unrealistic"? Right, it's so far out there. There's an african game reserve in the middle of Palm Desert California, an area with a fragile bio system, that does excellently with the addition of african mammals. Explain that...
Riiiiight, too many/.ers have this view of the wealthy as the old monopoly game character, throwing his $ around with no concern where it lands. Kerry didn't just wake up one day and say, "Hey, I think Lions and Rhinos are just boffo! Why, let's invite them over for Mr. Kite's benefit! Get me Africa on the line, and bollocks the cost".
Being from Australia, he's certainly heard about the rabbit addage, and is probably well aware of the dangers mixing biodiversity can cause. Nay, I'll take it to a radical level and propose that he even contacted an expert zoologist(!) and ASKED him about the forseeable effects! Why is it so beyond you reactionaries to think everything through. People aren't as daft as you all think they are you know, and you're no Packer or Irwin for that matter.
Instead of dredging up an old "kill your tv" rant, you might actually try watching the show. Steve knows his shit. No, he's not the world's leading-foremost-better-than-you expert on bio-diversity, but he is an expert with the added celeb bonus, which DOES go along way towards educating people by appealing to their desire to be entertained and educated in a positive setting. There's a reason why Hawking doesn't have his own series, and possibly by extention a reason why astro-physics is not a field many would be concerned about. Others more qualified? Sure. There's always someone more qualified for the job, that DOES NOT mean they're the best at it.
-Movie editor, for splicing your dwnlded porn vids into one!
-Slideshow viewer, built in! Screensaver AND power point style!
-New image viewer! no more "blowing" up the pic in IE to view it in full "glory"! Instead you can blow it up into a image viewer that has perfect resizing algs.
-If you don't like the image viewer you can do a side scrolling viewer, where the thumbnails scroll by on the bottom and the image selected shows up larger above!
-vid viewing in a side taskbar!
It's like they bloody designed the thing for porn viewing!
No, actually, I didn't find Shrek to be all that funny. Immensely overrated comes to mind. Lame jokes, cheap in-jokes (Disney jabs, yawn), lame story, lame pop-culture references, lame character design, Lame production design, LAME Eddie Murphy. Good graphics, Good music (John Cale, NOT the Monkeys), Good Bye. UN-BLOODY-ORIGIONAL. Seen the same thing on Bugs Bunny, lame then lame now. Want good fantasy spoofery? Terry Pratchett, Disney's Hercules.
. I don't know how we are supposed to fix that besides reinstituting colonialism and I doubt anybody wants to pick of "the white man's burden" (thank God).
And why not? Frankly, I'm tired of seeing countries fuck up what should be rather simple. I say a good spate of colonialism will do this world a bit of good. Why, after annexing this hemisphere, forcing free trade cross the north/south american borders, and taking that rot Castro someplace cold and 6ft under, we could give them all a bloody purpose in their lives! SPACE! THE SEA! BUFFY EVERY TEUSDAY NIGHT! No more of this fighting and spitting and jealousy. My land is your land is my land from pole to bloody pole, from sea to frigging sea.
Ok, you have Nike... name another... name more than 10 that ARE NOT mutli-national companies that are (with certifiable evidence) taking advantage of the local work force beyond your morals.
Again, I feel I must correct you: they hate us because we are a genocidal nation [tripod.com] of gun-crazy [tuxedo.org] psychopaths [mnsinc.com] and lunatics [crimelibrary.com].
Soo... does that justify my hating every dictatorship, 3rd world country, 1st world country, city-state, burgh, townhouse and bungalow? FLASH NEWS BRIEF! LIFE SUCKS THE WORLD OVER! They hate us (clearly) It doesn't seem terribly untoward for us to hate them by the rules of your own logic... or did you confuse Iraq/Somalia/China with Utopia?
Did you know that Canada and Mexico are the 2 largest importers of American goods? Did you know that Candada's pollution problem is minute compared to America's? Did you know that Mexico's pollution problem is easily solved with GATT trade laws? Did you know that neither Canada nor Mexico is suffering unduly from our influences and that BECAUSE of globalization they are benefiting the way they are. Where is the abuse? Lesse, you don't want us "Imperializing" other countries, but we're supposed to export democracy before even CONSIDERING exporting. We have no problem importing their wares (wares NOT made my American companies), but we ourselves aren't allowed to make a buck either(been to a pier 1 lately)? Both sides of this are so confused, you're all losing it.
I dig. The rhetoric flys thick around here. I'm a radical one on this issue though. See: http://www.alistapart.com Some great discussions from THE net designer community on the issue. They were the ones that called for an all out ban on non W3C browsers.
Oi... TPM Is a story about a child. Why such surprise that it's told with child optimism, foibles, and simplicity. In short, it's told from a child's perspective. A sly way to introduce the series in my mind. Innocence > Darkness > Rebirth
Monsters Inc is not a kids movie... It is a FAMILY movie, which means that it will potentially appeal to all possible members and age groups of a hypothetical family. It also means that it is appropriate for consumption across the age groups. Star Wars (orig trilogy and PM) meets this criteria. How is it a "bad sign" that the new one meets the same criteria?
Aaaand, dragging in the never ending RIAA debate makes you right? If I bloody want to screen against browser types that's MY right as a provider, whether I run Bonsai Kitten or fuckin' Yahoo. If I want to suffer the consequences of market time that's also my decision. The scythe swings both ways my friends, and your socialist banter only kicks your own ass in the end.
Luddite. You like your static pages with your amber screens? I'm no fan of pop-ups/unders, ads, etc., but then I usually make it a habit of only visiting sites that make good/proper use of what the net has to offer.
Spoken like someone who has no clue what they're talking about. This "abuse" of the "language" has NOT come from corporate sources, but from web artists and freelance designers who want MORE out of the limited web experience. The primitive tools early HTML provides for page design are sloppy and inconsistent, and you're right, elements like tables were not designed to be used like they are. But we're not getting to move forward because of lusers who insist on using non-w3c standard browsers with slooppy rendering.
This is not the first time I've seen this debate on/., but as with the last time, you've all proven to be the biggest bunch of luddites around ("take your style sheets and stuff'm"). Would you like to have the net rendered on your amber screen at a prompt? Fine, but leave the Net alone for the rest of us who'd like to use it for high impact design and web apps.. You all like to wank off about possible VR, Snow Crash wet dreams, but you can't even see past a well designed CSS, you sods.
How does the MS monopoly come into any of this. While they have an undeniable hold over the browser wars, it's still their right as a portal owner to cater to the customer they want to. Noone's making anyone go to MSN (and I don't see why anyone would anyway), but as a content provider, they have the right to call the shots as to how their page is rendered. You don't have the right to play the "internet police" and demand that their pages be rederable on any/all browsers. Remember, friends don't let friends use Nutscrape.
Says who? A web page designer's right to have a page rendered appropriately INCLUDES dictating what browser is used to to the job. As the content provider, YOU the customer come to US the provider. To get the most out of the experience you have certain requirements you must meet. This is really very simple folks. Microsoft may be a monopoly, but MSN alone isn't. There's no monopoly of crappy portal sites like theirs. Noone's forcing anyone to serf to MSN, and noone's forcing you to view their page, despite your browser.... Netscape/Mozilla sucks 'nuff said
That netscape STILL has the worst browser available on the market - sloppy interface design, incomplete W3C standards adherence, BLOAT, etc.. If I were webmaster of the world I would ban Navigator too. As for the other browsers, are they W3C compliant? No? then sod off. Yes? Then come on in...
This is old hash. Disney drew from the same inspiration that Nadia drew from : 2000 Leagues, Jules Verne aesthetics and plain old adventurism. Artistically Disney did a far superior job of it too, AND unless you're a kid, or easily entertained by toons (like me) Nadia's certainly no better than Atlantis, indeed the story line may be better developed but we're not talking Mononoke here.... Just get off it
Really, this post is quite the funny foil to the parent's over reacting rant. Of course the guy deserves a statue for what he's done... but jumping down all our throats for NOT LAUGHING AT HIM is quite out of line.
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Er, I think you're missing my point - that Packer's not acting without expert intel. As to the how I "visualize the idea working out"? I'm not a bloody bio scientist... you're the one throwing around vague generalizations and poor science, not me. I'm just suggesting that there are people smarter than you that have most likely went to Packard with the idea, not necessarily the other way around. "Whacked and Unrealistic"? Right, it's so far out there. There's an african game reserve in the middle of Palm Desert California, an area with a fragile bio system, that does excellently with the addition of african mammals. Explain that...
Riiiiight, too many /.ers have this view of the wealthy as the old monopoly game character, throwing his $ around with no concern where it lands. Kerry didn't just wake up one day and say, "Hey, I think Lions and Rhinos are just boffo! Why, let's invite them over for Mr. Kite's benefit! Get me Africa on the line, and bollocks the cost".
Being from Australia, he's certainly heard about the rabbit addage, and is probably well aware of the dangers mixing biodiversity can cause. Nay, I'll take it to a radical level and propose that he even contacted an expert zoologist(!) and ASKED him about the forseeable effects! Why is it so beyond you reactionaries to think everything through. People aren't as daft as you all think they are you know, and you're no Packer or Irwin for that matter.
Instead of dredging up an old "kill your tv" rant, you might actually try watching the show. Steve knows his shit. No, he's not the world's leading-foremost-better-than-you expert on bio-diversity, but he is an expert with the added celeb bonus, which DOES go along way towards educating people by appealing to their desire to be entertained and educated in a positive setting. There's a reason why Hawking doesn't have his own series, and possibly by extention a reason why astro-physics is not a field many would be concerned about. Others more qualified? Sure. There's always someone more qualified for the job, that DOES NOT mean they're the best at it.
It gets better in XP!
-Movie editor, for splicing your dwnlded porn vids into one!
-Slideshow viewer, built in! Screensaver AND power point style!
-New image viewer! no more "blowing" up the pic in IE to view it in full "glory"! Instead you can blow it up into a image viewer that has perfect resizing algs.
-If you don't like the image viewer you can do a side scrolling viewer, where the thumbnails scroll by on the bottom and the image selected shows up larger above!
-vid viewing in a side taskbar!
It's like they bloody designed the thing for porn viewing!
Brave and racist to boot! Why you're going to make quite a name for yourself Mr. Anonymous.
No, actually, I didn't find Shrek to be all that funny. Immensely overrated comes to mind. Lame jokes, cheap in-jokes (Disney jabs, yawn), lame story, lame pop-culture references, lame character design, Lame production design, LAME Eddie Murphy. Good graphics, Good music (John Cale, NOT the Monkeys), Good Bye. UN-BLOODY-ORIGIONAL. Seen the same thing on Bugs Bunny, lame then lame now. Want good fantasy spoofery? Terry Pratchett, Disney's Hercules.
. I don't know how we are supposed to fix that besides reinstituting colonialism and I doubt anybody wants to pick of "the white man's burden" (thank God).
And why not? Frankly, I'm tired of seeing countries fuck up what should be rather simple. I say a good spate of colonialism will do this world a bit of good. Why, after annexing this hemisphere, forcing free trade cross the north/south american borders, and taking that rot Castro someplace cold and 6ft under, we could give them all a bloody purpose in their lives! SPACE! THE SEA! BUFFY EVERY TEUSDAY NIGHT! No more of this fighting and spitting and jealousy. My land is your land is my land from pole to bloody pole, from sea to frigging sea.
Ok, you have Nike... name another... name more than 10 that ARE NOT mutli-national companies that are (with certifiable evidence) taking advantage of the local work force beyond your morals.
Again, I feel I must correct you: they hate us because we are a genocidal nation [tripod.com] of gun-crazy [tuxedo.org] psychopaths [mnsinc.com] and lunatics [crimelibrary.com].
Soo... does that justify my hating every dictatorship, 3rd world country, 1st world country, city-state, burgh, townhouse and bungalow? FLASH NEWS BRIEF! LIFE SUCKS THE WORLD OVER! They hate us (clearly) It doesn't seem terribly untoward for us to hate them by the rules of your own logic... or did you confuse Iraq/Somalia/China with Utopia?
"Trolled" cause he's not fighting your fight? NETSCAPE SUCK people! Don't like W3C? go back to your bloody amber screens sods...
Did you know that Canada and Mexico are the 2 largest importers of American goods? Did you know that Candada's pollution problem is minute compared to America's? Did you know that Mexico's pollution problem is easily solved with GATT trade laws? Did you know that neither Canada nor Mexico is suffering unduly from our influences and that BECAUSE of globalization they are benefiting the way they are. Where is the abuse? Lesse, you don't want us "Imperializing" other countries, but we're supposed to export democracy before even CONSIDERING exporting. We have no problem importing their wares (wares NOT made my American companies), but we ourselves aren't allowed to make a buck either(been to a pier 1 lately)? Both sides of this are so confused, you're all losing it.
I dig. The rhetoric flys thick around here. I'm a radical one on this issue though. See: http://www.alistapart.com Some great discussions from THE net designer community on the issue. They were the ones that called for an all out ban on non W3C browsers.
Oi... TPM Is a story about a child. Why such surprise that it's told with child optimism, foibles, and simplicity. In short, it's told from a child's perspective. A sly way to introduce the series in my mind. Innocence > Darkness > Rebirth
Monsters Inc is not a kids movie... It is a FAMILY movie, which means that it will potentially appeal to all possible members and age groups of a hypothetical family. It also means that it is appropriate for consumption across the age groups. Star Wars (orig trilogy and PM) meets this criteria. How is it a "bad sign" that the new one meets the same criteria?
Aaaand, dragging in the never ending RIAA debate makes you right? If I bloody want to screen against browser types that's MY right as a provider, whether I run Bonsai Kitten or fuckin' Yahoo. If I want to suffer the consequences of market time that's also my decision. The scythe swings both ways my friends, and your socialist banter only kicks your own ass in the end.
Oi, and that's ho I feel after a day of web design and coding in ASP/CFML. You're not as witty as I already know I am.
Luddite. You like your static pages with your amber screens? I'm no fan of pop-ups/unders, ads, etc., but then I usually make it a habit of only visiting sites that make good/proper use of what the net has to offer.
Spoken like someone who has no clue what they're talking about. This "abuse" of the "language" has NOT come from corporate sources, but from web artists and freelance designers who want MORE out of the limited web experience. The primitive tools early HTML provides for page design are sloppy and inconsistent, and you're right, elements like tables were not designed to be used like they are. But we're not getting to move forward because of lusers who insist on using non-w3c standard browsers with slooppy rendering.
/., but as with the last time, you've all proven to be the biggest bunch of luddites around ("take your style sheets and stuff'm"). Would you like to have the net rendered on your amber screen at a prompt? Fine, but leave the Net alone for the rest of us who'd like to use it for high impact design and web apps.. You all like to wank off about possible VR, Snow Crash wet dreams, but you can't even see past a well designed CSS, you sods.
This is not the first time I've seen this debate on
How does the MS monopoly come into any of this. While they have an undeniable hold over the browser wars, it's still their right as a portal owner to cater to the customer they want to. Noone's making anyone go to MSN (and I don't see why anyone would anyway), but as a content provider, they have the right to call the shots as to how their page is rendered. You don't have the right to play the "internet police" and demand that their pages be rederable on any/all browsers. Remember, friends don't let friends use Nutscrape.
> It's the right of other browsers to compete
Says who? A web page designer's right to have a page rendered appropriately INCLUDES dictating what browser is used to to the job. As the content provider, YOU the customer come to US the provider. To get the most out of the experience you have certain requirements you must meet. This is really very simple folks. Microsoft may be a monopoly, but MSN alone isn't. There's no monopoly of crappy portal sites like theirs. Noone's forcing anyone to serf to MSN, and noone's forcing you to view their page, despite your browser.... Netscape/Mozilla sucks 'nuff said
That netscape STILL has the worst browser available on the market - sloppy interface design, incomplete W3C standards adherence, BLOAT, etc.. If I were webmaster of the world I would ban Navigator too. As for the other browsers, are they W3C compliant? No? then sod off. Yes? Then come on in...
This is old hash. Disney drew from the same inspiration that Nadia drew from : 2000 Leagues, Jules Verne aesthetics and plain old adventurism. Artistically Disney did a far superior job of it too, AND unless you're a kid, or easily entertained by toons (like me) Nadia's certainly no better than Atlantis, indeed the story line may be better developed but we're not talking Mononoke here.... Just get off it
Really, this post is quite the funny foil to the parent's over reacting rant. Of course the guy deserves a statue for what he's done... but jumping down all our throats for NOT LAUGHING AT HIM is quite out of line.
I'm afraid of americans, I'm afraid of the world, I'm afraid I can't help it, I'm afraid I can't...
I don't feel any safer, but I don't feel any less free either! Exactly what is it about more border guards do all the /. fear so much?
but... but... but... the work for The Man!!!