opensolaris - the regular SXCE builds are Sun's testbed for new updates, patches, fixes and technology updates...
It's noted as 5.11 for the version, codenamed Nevada.
It's very similar to the way the unix kernel builds happened at one time (to be honest I haven't looked lately to know if they still do this or not) - in that the even number release is production and the odd numbered release is development...
Unless Oracle intends to kill off Solaris altogether, I don't see them killing OpenSolaris.
Until the coders get total control of the project, from inception to completion, then no, they cannot be held responsible for bugs in the code. How many companies push to get code out the door with *imperfections* - claiming they'll fix those in the first update? Too many these days. I'd say it's the management that controls the release schedules that should sign their names in blood on the bugs still known about (and unknown as testing probably wasn't allowed to complete).
it can also be described as electron bumping... an electron comes in, bumps the first atom, which hits the next, (repeat as needed), where the final atom releases it's electron.
think of the perpetual motion (not really) toy - with the series of ball bearings suspended on strings. you pull one back, release, when it hits the group, the one on the opposite end swings out.
If you buy a new car, they will offer you some money for your old one, no matter who made it, and that is normally considered legal. This is the same thing.
only if you consider trading in your car for 8k worth of cabin-air filters, or oil-changes/tire rotations...
they aren't offering 8k worth of ibm hardware for sun hardware...
While I agree that getting what was advertised and paid for is not related to net neutrality, it sure as hell isn't trying to get free cake.
It's irresponsibility and profiteering on the ISP's part that is now being called into question.
If an ISP claims unlimited (you cannot redefine a word by throwing fine print at it) at a certain bps, then calculate what you can get downloaded in 365 days, divide by 12, plus a sludge factor for the good days when you get a little more than your *level*, and that should be what you can download without paying any more.
The ISPs have gotten used to *THEIR FREE MEAL*, and now it's being taken away. Awww - I'd feel bad for them if they hadn't asked for it. They should have invested that free meal (users who use less than their paid for bandwidth) to keep their capacity above a low-water mark for utilization so that when the damn breaks, they're ready for it.
Instead, they spent it on bonuses, widgets and gidgets unrelated to their business, and now they find themselves under the gun. Again I say, too damned bad. They put themselves in that position with bad business decisions and are now trying to re-write their end user agreements to enforce even more bad business decisions.
We need to band together, form a class action lawsuit against all ISPs and force them to remove any and all fine print when using the words "unlimited", remove any caps, filters, interference from the lines, and stay that way.
The free lunch/ride for the ISPs is over, now it's time they get to pay for the infrastructure to handle the bandwidth they've been selling and not providing for all these years.
that post was certainly NOT trolling... merely stating results of years of experience, and not once did I bash anything, just said it wasn't as good as.../sigh - the people they let moderate these days...
I've used probably more x86 based UNIX / UNIX like operating systems than many people out here. Let's face it, there's not a lot of folks who remember turning key switches to load CTIX over CTOS on a Burroughs XE-550. Yes, I know there are some who will remember this, and things even older...
What I'm getting at, is that of all the operating systems I've used, based off of a plethora of chips, motorola, x86, powerpc, pa-risc, alpha, sparc, of them all, Solaris has been the most stable and reliable.
I've seen Linux systems, using kickstart, loaded onto identically configured hardware, end up with different packages loaded, due to some driver quirk that made it not load during one bootup, and work fine on another. I've seen boxes that ran fine, while their identically configured system crapped out repeatedly.
I've taken those same systems, and using a jumpstart server, loaded them with Solaris x86, and ended with identically configured, installed (down to the last package, configuration, etc) systems. All ran stable, fast and reliably.
Try taking your own run at comparing an application written for the A.M.P. stack, and first run it as a LAMP stack, then run it as a SAMP stack. You'll find that the SAMP stack outperforms the LAMP stack, sometimes by almost 100% on the same hardware.
Take a look at the security certifications, the revamped TCP/IP stack able to process millions (possibly billions) of messages per second (depending on the hardware it's configured to run on).
Take a look at the proprietary hardware, including CMT technologies, or the new ROCK processor due out this fall.
For a company that has been so solid in the operating system arena, to also be leading the pack in some of the hardware innovations is simply amazing.
Anyway, as I said, I've used most of the available UNIX/UNIX like operating systems, and find Solaris to be the best of breed for most, if not all, applications. That's my personal 24 years of experience talking, not just empty marketing words...
let's not forget the newer cfgadm command, and all it's possibilities...
with the new ssd driver removing lun per target limits (at least raising them substantially), and allowing for usb, fibre, scsi, etc to be scanned, configured, updated, refreshed on the fly...
Also, don't forget drvconfig and the ability to reload/refresh drivers in memory, while up and running...
Now.. this list is not all inclusive... but I think it shows a more than fair share of technologies, a lot of which are considered to be *common* tools, that would either not be here, or would not be what they are today, without Sun's contributions...
Most of that will crop up in the real world as well... (part of that learn something new every day angle) - always, always be on the lookout for new (to you) information.
On the converse, if you were taught that *something can't be done* you typically don't try to do it, which leads to you never knowing that it can, and has, been done.
When it comes down to it, experience will trump a degree anyday... Let's face it... A degree means you were taught how things *should* work. Real world experience teaches you how things *really* work. The only way to get that real world experience is to do it.
If you don't have the experience, or just want the degree, then the degree is worth it. However, please don't wave the degree around saying that "I, who have a degree, will trump you, who doesn't, every time". It's just not going to work out that way. Now, if you have your degree, and experience then it's a more equal footing, and let the best person win. If a place only looks at the degree, then chances are, they're missing out on some of the most talented people in the field.
In 24 years, I've received job offers for every job I've interviewed for, and that's without any kind of degree, unless you count real world experience. I was lucky in that I was able to pick the job I wanted, and do the things I want to do. I work in a field that I've chosen as a hobby, as well as where my aptitude and interests are. It's fun to go to work on most days, and a learning experience, even on the days that aren't so fun.
You're only as old as you think you are... I started working with UNIX at 17, 24 years ago, and am still at the bleeding edge, working with many up and coming technologies. I skipped college in favor of real world experience, and it has served me very well.
If you want to go to school, then go. If you run into ageism at a place of employment, you don't want to work there. At 35, you'll hardly be old, and you'll have more experience and knowledge under your belt.
I try and teach myself something new everyday, just to stay abreast of this field and several others. Science periodicals, journals, a little experimentation on the side.. It's all good. It keeps your mind active and able to learn and adapt.
Who gave the Principal the authority to order anything, especially a strip-search.
#1) Principal - Should be arrested, child endangerment, pedophile charges, placed on sex-offender list for life, his children taken away from him, his wife divorce him, any and all assets that he has should go to the 13 year old girl.
#2) Nurse - should be arrested, child endangerment, pedophile charges, placed on sex-offender list for life, her children if any taken away from her, her wife divorce her (heh-heh), any and all assets that she has should go to the 13 year old girl.
The principal and the nurse should share a cell for the rest of their natural (or in this case un-natural) lives.
but the length of the light *HAS* to be standard... ie - the same AT EVERY intersection within the township...
If it's not identical, then it WILL (and does) cause accidents - regardless of Cameras...
Ever watch an intersection that's been forced to alternate ahead of time (Sirens, flashing lights - cops - fire, etc) - it almost always causes someone to slam on the brakes, and nearly causes a pile-up whenever it happens around here....
Really.. it all boils down to your monthly utility fees and what you are willing to pay...
You can pick up 1-off servers being ditched by corporations (if you degauss the drives and certify that you will destroy them if you ever stop using them, you may get the drives as well) - otherwise, it will probably be sans hard drives, for next to nothing....
I picked up a test platform, Two Dual Core 2.66Ghz 64 Bit Xeons, 16GB RAM, 8 hot swap U320 72GB Drives, battery backed raid caching controller, dvd, floppy, 2 x 720 watt hot swap power supplies, in a nice deskside case, for zilch, nada, zip.. Just haul it away...
Currently running VMWare ESXi, with 16 VMs installed (I normally don't run more than 6 at a time, but it will run 12 without too much latency)...
Solaris x86 (64 bit and 32bit installs), Ubuntu, Nexenta (the v2 beta), OpenSolaris, Windows 7 Beta (32 and 64 bit) - blech, CentOS 4 & 5 (32 and 64 bit), PCLinuxOS 2007 and 2009, ReactOS, Windows XP (32 and 64) - configured as static - ie - no changes ever saved...
It's lots of fun to work with, and a great learning platform.
Sue the city that shortens the light, showing accident rates, long waits at the lights causing wasted fuel, out of sync lights, causing wasted fuel.
Make it too expensive to operate the lights in question, and they will disappear.
Better yet, take your own video of the intersection, then send it to the local news to show how the lights are *too short* but only at the camera intersections. Site safety issues and government corruption... They won't stay in office for long.
I've found that the easiest way to make applications run great is to give the developers systems that are at least 2 generations older than what will be used in production (with the latest software, patches, drivers, etc)...
Then, hold them to making the application perform as you want it to, on that hardware. They don't get paid (their final lump amount) until said application performs as you'd like on the 2 gen old hardware.
Then, when you migrate to the production hardware, it's quite a bit faster, and doesn't contain the bloat that could have crept in, if the developers had been given access to hardware identical to the production hardware.
I didn't have to click the imdb link (or hover over) to know you referred to the secret ingredient to artificial kryptonite, created by Richard Pryor's character.
Yes - I watch too much tv for my own (and future generation's) good.
I'd prefer some kind of RICO act finding myself... especially with the illegal investigations by unlicensed investigators. Attempts at entrapment (if their actions had been done by police officers or federal agents), attempts at extortion that border on blackmail... "Pay us 5,000.00 or we'll take you to court for hundreds of thousands - oh and we'll keep your little dog as hostage until you pay up..." kind of things (the dog comment is an exaggeration, although it probably went through some of their minds)...
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opensolaris - the regular SXCE builds are Sun's testbed for new updates, patches, fixes and technology updates...
It's noted as 5.11 for the version, codenamed Nevada.
It's very similar to the way the unix kernel builds happened at one time (to be honest I haven't looked lately to know if they still do this or not) - in that the even number release is production and the odd numbered release is development...
Unless Oracle intends to kill off Solaris altogether, I don't see them killing OpenSolaris.
in that case..
get the "fuck off" my lawn.
Posted earlier AC...
http://www.blast.com/cgi-bin/blast.com/view_services.cgi?request=show_aisle_names&dept_id=1
As I stated earlier - guaranteed file transfers - if it says it's completed, the file is guaranteed to be there and be correct.
Until the coders get total control of the project, from inception to completion, then no, they cannot be held responsible for bugs in the code.
How many companies push to get code out the door with *imperfections* - claiming they'll fix those in the first update?
Too many these days.
I'd say it's the management that controls the release schedules that should sign their names in blood on the bugs still known about (and unknown as testing probably wasn't allowed to complete).
it can also be described as electron bumping...
an electron comes in, bumps the first atom, which hits the next, (repeat as needed), where the final atom releases it's electron.
think of the perpetual motion (not really) toy - with the series of ball bearings suspended on strings. you pull one back, release, when it hits the group, the one on the opposite end swings out.
If you buy a new car, they will offer you some money for your old one, no matter who made it, and that is normally considered legal. This is the same thing.
only if you consider trading in your car for 8k worth of cabin-air filters, or oil-changes/tire rotations...
they aren't offering 8k worth of ibm hardware for sun hardware...
not the same.
While I agree that getting what was advertised and paid for is not related to net neutrality, it sure as hell isn't trying to get free cake.
It's irresponsibility and profiteering on the ISP's part that is now being called into question.
If an ISP claims unlimited (you cannot redefine a word by throwing fine print at it) at a certain bps, then calculate what you can get downloaded in 365 days, divide by 12, plus a sludge factor for the good days when you get a little more than your *level*, and that should be what you can download without paying any more.
The ISPs have gotten used to *THEIR FREE MEAL*, and now it's being taken away. Awww - I'd feel bad for them if they hadn't asked for it. They should have invested that free meal (users who use less than their paid for bandwidth) to keep their capacity above a low-water mark for utilization so that when the damn breaks, they're ready for it.
Instead, they spent it on bonuses, widgets and gidgets unrelated to their business, and now they find themselves under the gun. Again I say, too damned bad. They put themselves in that position with bad business decisions and are now trying to re-write their end user agreements to enforce even more bad business decisions.
We need to band together, form a class action lawsuit against all ISPs and force them to remove any and all fine print when using the words "unlimited", remove any caps, filters, interference from the lines, and stay that way.
The free lunch/ride for the ISPs is over, now it's time they get to pay for the infrastructure to handle the bandwidth they've been selling and not providing for all these years.
'They'll be doing themselves a disservice if, because of XPM, they're not making sure that all their apps support Windows 7.'"
They'll be doing themselves a disservice if, because of XPM, they're not taking make sure that all theirs apps are migrated off of Windows altogether.
There... that's how it should have read.
You did read what you posted right???
commences use of a mark or trade name in commerce
it's a non commercial site...
it would appear that no dilution is possible without commercial ties.
awww - did my troll crowd follow me in here???
that post was certainly NOT trolling... merely stating results of years of experience, and not once did I bash anything, just said it wasn't as good as... /sigh - the people they let moderate these days...
I've used probably more x86 based UNIX / UNIX like operating systems than many people out here.
Let's face it, there's not a lot of folks who remember turning key switches to load CTIX over CTOS on a Burroughs XE-550. Yes, I know there are some who will remember this, and things even older...
What I'm getting at, is that of all the operating systems I've used, based off of a plethora of chips, motorola, x86, powerpc, pa-risc, alpha, sparc, of them all, Solaris has been the most stable and reliable.
I've seen Linux systems, using kickstart, loaded onto identically configured hardware, end up with different packages loaded, due to some driver quirk that made it not load during one bootup, and work fine on another. I've seen boxes that ran fine, while their identically configured system crapped out repeatedly.
I've taken those same systems, and using a jumpstart server, loaded them with Solaris x86, and ended with identically configured, installed (down to the last package, configuration, etc) systems. All ran stable, fast and reliably.
Try taking your own run at comparing an application written for the A.M.P. stack, and first run it as a LAMP stack, then run it as a SAMP stack. You'll find that the SAMP stack outperforms the LAMP stack, sometimes by almost 100% on the same hardware.
Take a look at the security certifications, the revamped TCP/IP stack able to process millions (possibly billions) of messages per second (depending on the hardware it's configured to run on).
Take a look at the proprietary hardware, including CMT technologies, or the new ROCK processor due out this fall.
For a company that has been so solid in the operating system arena, to also be leading the pack in some of the hardware innovations is simply amazing.
Anyway, as I said, I've used most of the available UNIX/UNIX like operating systems, and find Solaris to be the best of breed for most, if not all, applications. That's my personal 24 years of experience talking, not just empty marketing words...
let's not forget the newer cfgadm command, and all it's possibilities...
with the new ssd driver removing lun per target limits (at least raising them substantially), and allowing for usb, fibre, scsi, etc to be scanned, configured, updated, refreshed on the fly...
Also, don't forget drvconfig and the ability to reload/refresh drivers in memory, while up and running...
Hmmmm - and have you noticed that the changelog incorporates almost all of these technologies?
I think the poster merely stated the most recent innovations to show ones that the majority of the slashdot posters would be familiar with.
Check out this link, for a list of Sun contributions...
http://mediacast.sun.com/users/pgdh/media/sum_of_parts_v2.8a.pdf
I'll highlight just a few, probably found in your beloved *BSD* as well..
NFS, NIS, XDR, Posix, SVR4, mmap, Streams, ld.so, diskless boot, autofs, rpc, news, abi, xdr, vfs.... /proc, truss, nsswitch, ptools, dynamic kernel, smp, domains, libthread, nis+, vold, jumpstart
hls, mpss, pools, fss, zones, brandz, s8ma, mdb, dtrace, fma, pgrep, smf, mpo, least privelege, zfs
and for additional software contributions...
JAVA, OpenOffice for starters...
Now.. this list is not all inclusive... but I think it shows a more than fair share of technologies, a lot of which are considered to be *common* tools, that would either not be here, or would not be what they are today, without Sun's contributions...
Most of that will crop up in the real world as well... (part of that learn something new every day angle) - always, always be on the lookout for new (to you) information.
On the converse, if you were taught that *something can't be done* you typically don't try to do it, which leads to you never knowing that it can, and has, been done.
When it comes down to it, experience will trump a degree anyday... Let's face it... A degree means you were taught how things *should* work. Real world experience teaches you how things *really* work. The only way to get that real world experience is to do it.
If you don't have the experience, or just want the degree, then the degree is worth it.
However, please don't wave the degree around saying that "I, who have a degree, will trump you, who doesn't, every time". It's just not going to work out that way.
Now, if you have your degree, and experience then it's a more equal footing, and let the best person win. If a place only looks at the degree, then chances are, they're missing out on some of the most talented people in the field.
In 24 years, I've received job offers for every job I've interviewed for, and that's without any kind of degree, unless you count real world experience. I was lucky in that I was able to pick the job I wanted, and do the things I want to do. I work in a field that I've chosen as a hobby, as well as where my aptitude and interests are. It's fun to go to work on most days, and a learning experience, even on the days that aren't so fun.
You're only as old as you think you are... I started working with UNIX at 17, 24 years ago, and am still at the bleeding edge, working with many up and coming technologies. I skipped college in favor of real world experience, and it has served me very well.
If you want to go to school, then go. If you run into ageism at a place of employment, you don't want to work there. At 35, you'll hardly be old, and you'll have more experience and knowledge under your belt.
I try and teach myself something new everyday, just to stay abreast of this field and several others. Science periodicals, journals, a little experimentation on the side.. It's all good. It keeps your mind active and able to learn and adapt.
Who gave the Principal the authority to order anything, especially a strip-search.
#1) Principal - Should be arrested, child endangerment, pedophile charges, placed on sex-offender list for life, his children taken away from him, his wife divorce him, any and all assets that he has should go to the 13 year old girl.
#2) Nurse - should be arrested, child endangerment, pedophile charges, placed on sex-offender list for life, her children if any taken away from her, her wife divorce her (heh-heh), any and all assets that she has should go to the 13 year old girl.
The principal and the nurse should share a cell for the rest of their natural (or in this case un-natural) lives.
That's just for starters.
but the length of the light *HAS* to be standard... ie - the same AT EVERY intersection within the township...
If it's not identical, then it WILL (and does) cause accidents - regardless of Cameras...
Ever watch an intersection that's been forced to alternate ahead of time (Sirens, flashing lights - cops - fire, etc) - it almost always causes someone to slam on the brakes, and nearly causes a pile-up whenever it happens around here....
Really.. it all boils down to your monthly utility fees and what you are willing to pay...
You can pick up 1-off servers being ditched by corporations (if you degauss the drives and certify that you will destroy them if you ever stop using them, you may get the drives as well) - otherwise, it will probably be sans hard drives, for next to nothing....
I picked up a test platform, Two Dual Core 2.66Ghz 64 Bit Xeons, 16GB RAM, 8 hot swap U320 72GB Drives, battery backed raid caching controller, dvd, floppy, 2 x 720 watt hot swap power supplies, in a nice deskside case, for zilch, nada, zip.. Just haul it away...
Currently running VMWare ESXi, with 16 VMs installed (I normally don't run more than 6 at a time, but it will run 12 without too much latency)...
Solaris x86 (64 bit and 32bit installs), Ubuntu, Nexenta (the v2 beta), OpenSolaris, Windows 7 Beta (32 and 64 bit) - blech, CentOS 4 & 5 (32 and 64 bit), PCLinuxOS 2007 and 2009, ReactOS, Windows XP (32 and 64) - configured as static - ie - no changes ever saved...
It's lots of fun to work with, and a great learning platform.
There's a simple way to fix it...
Sue the city that shortens the light, showing accident rates, long waits at the lights causing wasted fuel, out of sync lights, causing wasted fuel.
Make it too expensive to operate the lights in question, and they will disappear.
Better yet, take your own video of the intersection, then send it to the local news to show how the lights are *too short* but only at the camera intersections. Site safety issues and government corruption... They won't stay in office for long.
I've found that the easiest way to make applications run great is to give the developers systems that are at least 2 generations older than what will be used in production (with the latest software, patches, drivers, etc)...
Then, hold them to making the application perform as you want it to, on that hardware. They don't get paid (their final lump amount) until said application performs as you'd like on the 2 gen old hardware.
Then, when you migrate to the production hardware, it's quite a bit faster, and doesn't contain the bloat that could have crept in, if the developers had been given access to hardware identical to the production hardware.
so is the mod points you were given
I cringed and nearly cried when I read that...
I didn't have to click the imdb link (or hover over) to know you referred to the secret ingredient to artificial kryptonite, created by Richard Pryor's character.
Yes - I watch too much tv for my own (and future generation's) good.
you did see the comments in parens right? where I stated that the actions would have been entrapment if they had been officers????
just checking...
I'd prefer some kind of RICO act finding myself... especially with the illegal investigations by unlicensed investigators. Attempts at entrapment (if their actions had been done by police officers or federal agents), attempts at extortion that border on blackmail... "Pay us 5,000.00 or we'll take you to court for hundreds of thousands - oh and we'll keep your little dog as hostage until you pay up..." kind of things (the dog comment is an exaggeration, although it probably went through some of their minds)...