You're forgetting, they have contracts, clearly deliniating what the artist gets, and what percentages go to the RIAA and labels..
If a new way to make money comes up, and the contract doesn't cover it, the artist will get nothing.
Labels take a *percentage* out of downloads for *shipping, media costs, labelling, printing, etc..* which amounts to a greater portion of the purchase price of the song.
In the end, a lucky artist will make 1 maybe 2 cents off each downloaded track purchased.
The only one's hurt from illegal downloading are the Studios and MAFIAAs.
The rest of the time it's the Studios and MAFIAAs hurting the artists to fill their wallets.
How many millions of PCs were sold, when they can get their Windows for $10 or less, and Office for $10 or less, so let's say $20.00.
Now, without those discounts, we'll say for the sake of argument, that the MS products were $300, (OEM purchased through a mass source like CDW or someone).
The PC sold for $399.99 - $300.00, = 99.99 for the PC, instead of 379.99. if I've done my math right, that's a 74% reduction in return for the PC.
I'm not necessarily defending Mr. Dell, however, I am criticizing MS's methods to profit.
MS signed a contract saying that they'd offer discounts IF they didn't sell competing products. There is nothing evil about this. If you don't like the terms, walk.
No... You got that wrong. MS Refused to sign a contract allowing Dell to buy MS products at substantial discount, unless they signed saying they WOULDN'T sell competing products.
See how changing the wording makes this evil...
If Dell hadn't signed, they'd have been forced to one of 2 things..
#1) Don't provide any MS products
#2) Raise product price by $300+ to be able to include MS products.
What would that have done to their bottom line?
It wasn't well done, or earned. It was blackmail pure and simple.
Look, in the course of contract negotiations, all of the major PC vendors want the best possible price for an OS license. In order to get that best price, Microsoft has, in the past, forced the vendor to purchase a license for every machine sold, regardless of the OS to be installed. Even if you ordered your Dell or Gateway with RedHat/Ubuntu/whatever pre-loaded, the vendor would have to purchase a Windows license for that machine.
If they didn't agree to those terms, they didn't get their price break, and may have been threatened with being left out of the OEM program altogether, meaning they'd have to buy full retail versions for each machine.
No vendor could survive having to pay $200-$300 for Windows, and more for Office to include on their $600 pc.
How much money was lost? Zero...
Those that pirate music, movies and software were never going to buy it in the first place.
How can there be *money lost* when they never had it to begin with?
Remember, every PC sold by most of the major vendors include a license (regardless of the OS eventually used on it)...
What would be more important is the numbers of unique activations....
Where's that number?
4,000? 40,000? 400,000? Let's see that number (with the info to back it up)...
Otherwise this is just optimistic marketing drivel.
If any number of client's data is exposed, lost, stolen then the following action will be taken.
#1 All assets of the company that lost the data will be frozen.
#2 Corporate officers will be held liable, and serve a prison term no less than 5 years.
#3 The victims will be provided with identity theft insurance for the rest of their lives, paid for by #4.
#4 All assets of the company will be sold, and said money will be distributed evenly to the victims, after subtracting the cost of lifetime identity theft coverage.
Yes, there are all kinds of bad things that could happen (like mass unenployment, etc..), however, if the officers of the companies are held responsible by law, they will more than likely want to cover their asses, and force the companies to do what they should have done already.
Flamebait? There's zero flamebait here - just facts...
If there's any baiting going on, it's being done by Microsoft.
Bait and switch....
Show a glorious heavenly experience OS commercial.... Provide an infamous depths of hell experience to the users on install.... (when you can install it)
[i]And, by the way, your ridiculous inclusion of the curse "fuck" so many times does nothing but highlight the fact you are an immature child (whether in reality, or at heart).[/i]
Actually, that would be my military background showing through you stupid fucking wanker.
Dual core, couple a gig - and I'm sure that the forensics folks have you beat hands down.
I for one have tried it on a dual core athlon 64, with 4GB of RAM, and approximately 6 terabytes of disk, with hundreds of thousands of files (web and media).
That install lasted approximately 3 days before I went back to Windows XP pro for my gaming. The files are back on an OpenSolaris file server running zfs.
I destroyed that copy of Vista, and mailed it back to MS, asking that they take care of their trash.
The CSR's and managers that deal with the calls have been trained that the system is infallible.
They've also been trained not to waste time on calls that the data doesn't support.
If you want to blame someone, blame the corporate mindset and those that only look for that stock price to go up by doing things that will only drive the stock price down.
Why would we want DX10? It only runs under Vista at this time, and there's no way any serious gamer is going to switch to Vista. It's too fucking unstable, slow and DRM ladened to the point that you can't manipulate files without waiting for days to finish.
A) It was a joke B) If it wasn't, then yes - I would probably take them on and win. EULAS have been thrown out before, and in the state that I live in, it's a criminal offense to install/hide spyware with other software, period. And warden definitely matches the criteria for spyware.
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You're forgetting, they have contracts, clearly deliniating what the artist gets, and what percentages go to the RIAA and labels.. If a new way to make money comes up, and the contract doesn't cover it, the artist will get nothing. Labels take a *percentage* out of downloads for *shipping, media costs, labelling, printing, etc..* which amounts to a greater portion of the purchase price of the song. In the end, a lucky artist will make 1 maybe 2 cents off each downloaded track purchased. The only one's hurt from illegal downloading are the Studios and MAFIAAs. The rest of the time it's the Studios and MAFIAAs hurting the artists to fill their wallets.
lol...... you know, some MS fan-boys probably took that at face value...
Since I was the one talking to the ex-employee, it was correct in the first place...
How many millions of PCs were sold, when they can get their Windows for $10 or less, and Office for $10 or less, so let's say $20.00. Now, without those discounts, we'll say for the sake of argument, that the MS products were $300, (OEM purchased through a mass source like CDW or someone). The PC sold for $399.99 - $300.00, = 99.99 for the PC, instead of 379.99. if I've done my math right, that's a 74% reduction in return for the PC. I'm not necessarily defending Mr. Dell, however, I am criticizing MS's methods to profit.
MS signed a contract saying that they'd offer discounts IF they didn't sell competing products. There is nothing evil about this. If you don't like the terms, walk. No... You got that wrong. MS Refused to sign a contract allowing Dell to buy MS products at substantial discount, unless they signed saying they WOULDN'T sell competing products. See how changing the wording makes this evil... If Dell hadn't signed, they'd have been forced to one of 2 things.. #1) Don't provide any MS products #2) Raise product price by $300+ to be able to include MS products. What would that have done to their bottom line?
The above information was obtained directly from an ex-employee of an OEM that was involved in the contract negotiations with Microsoft.
It wasn't well done, or earned. It was blackmail pure and simple. Look, in the course of contract negotiations, all of the major PC vendors want the best possible price for an OS license. In order to get that best price, Microsoft has, in the past, forced the vendor to purchase a license for every machine sold, regardless of the OS to be installed. Even if you ordered your Dell or Gateway with RedHat/Ubuntu/whatever pre-loaded, the vendor would have to purchase a Windows license for that machine. If they didn't agree to those terms, they didn't get their price break, and may have been threatened with being left out of the OEM program altogether, meaning they'd have to buy full retail versions for each machine. No vendor could survive having to pay $200-$300 for Windows, and more for Office to include on their $600 pc.
No, I wouldn't. There's a difference here. I have moral values, and I adhere to them.
How much money was lost? Zero... Those that pirate music, movies and software were never going to buy it in the first place. How can there be *money lost* when they never had it to begin with?
Remember, every PC sold by most of the major vendors include a license (regardless of the OS eventually used on it)... What would be more important is the numbers of unique activations.... Where's that number? 4,000? 40,000? 400,000? Let's see that number (with the info to back it up)... Otherwise this is just optimistic marketing drivel.
They were Microsoft employees.... (No, I really don't know that.... Just thought... Oh hell, nevermind...)
If any number of client's data is exposed, lost, stolen then the following action will be taken. #1 All assets of the company that lost the data will be frozen. #2 Corporate officers will be held liable, and serve a prison term no less than 5 years. #3 The victims will be provided with identity theft insurance for the rest of their lives, paid for by #4. #4 All assets of the company will be sold, and said money will be distributed evenly to the victims, after subtracting the cost of lifetime identity theft coverage. Yes, there are all kinds of bad things that could happen (like mass unenployment, etc..), however, if the officers of the companies are held responsible by law, they will more than likely want to cover their asses, and force the companies to do what they should have done already.
Big O can also be used to indicate you've done something right with a member of the opposite sex...
Oh wait, this is slashdot... We're not supposed to know this....
Forcing the student to miss school could break relevant local truancy laws, if there are any in the school district....
Flamebait? There's zero flamebait here - just facts...
If there's any baiting going on, it's being done by Microsoft.
Bait and switch....
Show a glorious heavenly experience OS commercial....
Provide an infamous depths of hell experience to the users on install.... (when you can install it)
Maybe you ought to redo your userid to JonVista then...
You sir, have been lucky so far.
Beware, you will get bitten, and when you do - well - we tried to warn you.
[i]And, by the way, your ridiculous inclusion of the curse "fuck" so many times does nothing but highlight the fact you are an immature child (whether in reality, or at heart).[/i]
Actually, that would be my military background showing through you stupid fucking wanker.
Dual core, couple a gig - and I'm sure that the forensics folks have you beat hands down.
I for one have tried it on a dual core athlon 64, with 4GB of RAM, and approximately 6 terabytes of disk, with hundreds of thousands of files (web and media).
That install lasted approximately 3 days before I went back to Windows XP pro for my gaming.
The files are back on an OpenSolaris file server running zfs.
I destroyed that copy of Vista, and mailed it back to MS, asking that they take care of their trash.
And CryEngine already supports DX9.
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http://www.crytek.com/technology/index.php?sx=eng
According to Crytek, Crysis will be supported on Windows XP...
http://www.crytek.com/games/index.php?px=xsis
Or wait until dx10 is emulated under Wine.
I for one will not allow a game to drive a bad purchase decision (like Vista).
The CSR's and managers that deal with the calls have been trained that the system is infallible.
They've also been trained not to waste time on calls that the data doesn't support.
If you want to blame someone, blame the corporate mindset and those that only look for that stock price to go up by doing things that will only drive the stock price down.
Why would we want DX10? It only runs under Vista at this time, and there's no way any serious gamer is going to switch to Vista. It's too fucking unstable, slow and DRM ladened to the point that you can't manipulate files without waiting for days to finish.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/16/vista_for
days to delete files? lucky vista didn't corrupt the drive? looking for drm bits on every file access? good god, what kind of fucked up shit is this?
Mine always *ALWAYS* shows a blank EULA.
Really? The SPYWARE installation is disclosed pre-installation on my original Collector's edition? WOW - how prophetic of them.
I haven't re-installed WoW in over a year and a half, and no longer play.
A) It was a joke
B) If it wasn't, then yes - I would probably take them on and win. EULAS have been thrown out before, and in the state that I live in, it's a criminal offense to install/hide spyware with other software, period. And warden definitely matches the criteria for spyware.