Uhhh, ok -- they may not be physically chained to their desks, Mr. Star-eyed Libertarian, but if they have mortgages and families and other responsibilities, then they can't quit so easily. Not in this job market.
*BSD, 27, of Berkeley, CA died Monday, Sept. 6, 2004. Born July 3, 1976, it was the creation of a cluster of pot-smoking hippies who went to Illinois and came home with a reel of tape. Rather than smoke the tape, they uploaded it and hacked on it a little.
*BSD was known for its C shell and early TCP/IP implementation. After being banished from UC Berkeley, it was ported to the x86 platform, where it fell into the hands of heavier pot-smokers who liked to argue. Soon, the project had splintered into 12 different Balkanized projects. Until its death, there was almost constant fighting in and amongst these groups, sometimes degenerating into out-and-out fistfights.
*BSD is survived by its superior, Linux, as well as several commercial unix implementations. It may be missed by some who knew it, although most of them are said to be mere OS dilettante dabblers.
A funeral will be held at 2 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 9, at the Berkeley Chapel on the UC campus, with interment to follow via the burning of the original *BSD tapes and scattering of the ashes over the San Francisco Bay. The Rev. Lou "Buddy" Stubbs will officiate.
The family will receive friends from 7 to 8 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 8, at the funeral home.
If you're dead, you can't write. If you're the author's son, then wonderful -- the potential for profit (or god help us, art) may motivate you to write.
But the public does not benefit in any way, shape, or form from someone's creative work being treated perpetually as some sort of fake "property."
And public benefit, believe it or not, was the reason for the copyright law to begin with.
AMEN. The section of the constitution that deals with copyright clearly states that it exists in order to encourage artists to create more art. Margaret is dead, and will not be writing any new books.
Skeptics of the constitution might ask if that means that if an author dies, the copyright should immediately expire? Answer: yes. Copyright was not intended to create a piece of property to be passed down. Read the text. It's just there to encourage creators to create.
I saw this in the paper today; seemed relevant. That's right: I'm trolling while logged in.:p
*BSD Obituary
*BSD, 27, of Berkeley, CA died Monday, Sept. 6, 2004. Born July 3, 1976, it was the creation of a cluster of pot-smoking hippies who went to Illinois and came home with a reel of tape. Rather than smoke the tape, they uploaded it and hacked on it a little.
*BSD was known for its C shell and early TCP/IP implementation. After being banished from UC Berkeley, it was ported to the x86 platform, where it fell into the hands of heavier pot-smokers who liked to argue. Soon, the project had splintered into 12 different Balkanized projects. Until its death, there was almost constant fighting in and amongst these groups, sometimes degenerating into out-and-out fistfights.
*BSD is survived by its superior, Linux, as well as several commercial unix implementations. It may be missed by some who knew it, although most of them are said to be mere OS dilettante dabblers.
A funeral will be held at 2 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 9, at the Berkeley Chapel on the UC campus, with interment to follow via the burning of the original *BSD tapes and scattering of the ashes over the San Francisco Bay. The Rev. Lou "Buddy" Stubbs will officiate.
The family will receive friends from 7 to 8 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 8, at the funeral home.
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Professor Mark Lemley argues that intellectual property is not 'property' in the traditional sense
Not to mention the fact that, as Larry Lessig points out in his most recent book, the "property" is the copyright or patent, not the protected work itself. Funny how "IP" attorneys so frequently pretend the distinction doesn't exist.
It depends on if you're running Windows or something else. On Windows, it behaves as you'd expect. On Linux, I'm still doing the old copy-location, paste-location trick.:(
There is no fair use to take something that doesn't belong to you.
- Jack Valenti
This, of course, is total bullshit.
Part of the reason it's total bullshit is that it misidentifies what is actually "owned."
Copyright law does not say that a copyright owner owns a song or a movie. It says that the owner owns the copy rights for that song or movie , within limits. Fair use is outside that limit.
It's so frightening to see someone who's supposed to be an "expert" in copyright be so blatently ignorant of the law.
The fundamental error all these guys (RIAA, MPAA, baby boomers in general) make is that they think that there's no difference between tangible goods (cognac glasses) and intangible goods (movies, songs).
The fact is that a cognac glass is a physical object and is scarce -- I can't just make a new copy of one on-the-fly.
But if something is digital, it doesn't exist in the real universe, only in our minds; they're created by our own perception. And making copies is trivial -- so where's the scarcity? How can you think that there's no real difference between these things?
Our progeny will look at these people, and the way we are "adapting" to new technology, and laugh.
our current model does follow an approximation of what you're talking about, many places are much more socialistic.
Very good point; I was speaking about the way the US is now, but I don't necessarily think it's for the best. The places that are more socialistic probably have a better living standard than we in the US (unless you're in that top rich 1%).
What Ayn Rand didn't understand is how power affects her equations: once a company (founded as it may have been by do-ers and accomplishers who make society go) accumulates enough power, it makes it difficult or impossible for other do-ers and accomplishers to do or accomplish -- or for their acts to amount to anything.
Because once the company has power, it's no longer in the business of doing and accomplishing; it's in the business of preserving, protecting, defending, and increasing its power, Amen and Amen. And outside do-ers and accomplishers are now threats to that power. Witness Microsoft.
Well, slow down a little -- the world doesn't owe you anything because you made all that effort. Whether it's fair or not, it's up to each of us to find a way to be valuable to a company.
If they export our jobs, they'll get what they pay for (and usually do -- witness the failure that is outsourcing).
The only bad part of that situation is that it takes CEOs and boards a few years to figure out that they're not getting what they pay for when they outsource (shoddy code, slow response time, lack of understanding of American business, ad nauseum).
The reason outsourcing fails is that you can't easily just cut off one part of an organization and throw it across the world. To make that really work, you'd need to move the entire organization to that country -- and now you've just outsourced everyone except the board. Oops.
Since when are writers "trained"? Don't you mean "talented" or "intelligent"? You can't train someone to be a good writer, anymore than you can train someone to be a good artist.
>> He didn't like the direction that v5 was taking so he quit and starting writing BSD code for Apple
Yeah, that's what so many people complain about: if you were actually going to use a BSD, which one? Seems like every 5 minutes someone gets pissed off, quits, and starts a new incompatible project.
I know what you're trying to do, but I doubt you're fooling anyone -- BSD may or may not be dying, but it's certainly not increasing its market share. (If it is, which one is it?)
And I'm not sure why you don't mention more than four BSDs, or that each of the four you do name hate all the others. FreeBSD hates DragonflyBSD, NetBSD hates OpenBSD, ad nauseum. The only thing they can agree on is being jealous of Linux's success.
Actually, that's far less likely to happen, because Mozilla/Firefox programmers are significantly more concerned about security than Microsoft is. That MS is careless about security is a matter of fact, and demonstrated by the continuing barrage of IE problems (if not the very concept of "features" like ActiveX).
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Uhhh, ok -- they may not be physically chained to their desks, Mr. Star-eyed Libertarian, but if they have mortgages and families and other responsibilities, then they can't quit so easily. Not in this job market.
FWIW, I averaged 500kbs and got all four CDs in about 20 mins each, using
rsync://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/core/
They also have http and ftp available, but rsync is probably the most efficient IMHO.
You can think me an idiot for writing something like that, but why on earth would it make me dumb?
*BSD Obituary
*BSD, 27, of Berkeley, CA died Monday, Sept. 6, 2004. Born July 3, 1976, it was the creation of a cluster of pot-smoking hippies who went to Illinois and came home with a reel of tape. Rather than smoke the tape, they uploaded it and hacked on it a little.
*BSD was known for its C shell and early TCP/IP implementation. After being banished from UC Berkeley, it was ported to the x86 platform, where it fell into the hands of heavier pot-smokers who liked to argue. Soon, the project had splintered into 12 different Balkanized projects. Until its death, there was almost constant fighting in and amongst these groups, sometimes degenerating into out-and-out fistfights.
*BSD is survived by its superior, Linux, as well as several commercial unix implementations. It may be missed by some who knew it, although most of them are said to be mere OS dilettante dabblers.
A funeral will be held at 2 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 9, at the Berkeley Chapel on the UC campus, with interment to follow via the burning of the original *BSD tapes and scattering of the ashes over the San Francisco Bay. The Rev. Lou "Buddy" Stubbs will officiate.
The family will receive friends from 7 to 8 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 8, at the funeral home.
Nope, you all miss the point entirely.
If you're dead, you can't write. If you're the author's son, then wonderful -- the potential for profit (or god help us, art) may motivate you to write.
But the public does not benefit in any way, shape, or form from someone's creative work being treated perpetually as some sort of fake "property."
And public benefit, believe it or not, was the reason for the copyright law to begin with.
AMEN. The section of the constitution that deals with copyright clearly states that it exists in order to encourage artists to create more art. Margaret is dead, and will not be writing any new books.
Skeptics of the constitution might ask if that means that if an author dies, the copyright should immediately expire? Answer: yes. Copyright was not intended to create a piece of property to be passed down. Read the text. It's just there to encourage creators to create.
I saw this in the paper today; seemed relevant. That's right: I'm trolling while logged in. :p
*BSD Obituary
*BSD, 27, of Berkeley, CA died Monday, Sept. 6, 2004. Born July 3, 1976, it was the creation of a cluster of pot-smoking hippies who went to Illinois and came home with a reel of tape. Rather than smoke the tape, they uploaded it and hacked on it a little.
*BSD was known for its C shell and early TCP/IP implementation. After being banished from UC Berkeley, it was ported to the x86 platform, where it fell into the hands of heavier pot-smokers who liked to argue. Soon, the project had splintered into 12 different Balkanized projects. Until its death, there was almost constant fighting in and amongst these groups, sometimes degenerating into out-and-out fistfights.
*BSD is survived by its superior, Linux, as well as several commercial unix implementations. It may be missed by some who knew it, although most of them are said to be mere OS dilettante dabblers.
A funeral will be held at 2 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 9, at the Berkeley Chapel on the UC campus, with interment to follow via the burning of the original *BSD tapes and scattering of the ashes over the San Francisco Bay. The Rev. Lou "Buddy" Stubbs will officiate.
The family will receive friends from 7 to 8 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 8, at the funeral home.
Professor Mark Lemley argues that intellectual property is not 'property' in the traditional sense
Not to mention the fact that, as Larry Lessig points out in his most recent book, the "property" is the copyright or patent, not the protected work itself. Funny how "IP" attorneys so frequently pretend the distinction doesn't exist.
Any trick to going the opposite direction? (Click on a link in a Thunderbird mail opens page in Firebird.)
It depends on if you're running Windows or something else. On Windows, it behaves as you'd expect. On Linux, I'm still doing the old copy-location, paste-location trick. :(
This, of course, is total bullshit.
Part of the reason it's total bullshit is that it misidentifies what is actually "owned."
Copyright law does not say that a copyright owner owns a song or a movie. It says that the owner owns the copy rights for that song or movie , within limits. Fair use is outside that limit.
It's so frightening to see someone who's supposed to be an "expert" in copyright be so blatently ignorant of the law.
The fundamental error all these guys (RIAA, MPAA, baby boomers in general) make is that they think that there's no difference between tangible goods (cognac glasses) and intangible goods (movies, songs).
The fact is that a cognac glass is a physical object and is scarce -- I can't just make a new copy of one on-the-fly.
But if something is digital, it doesn't exist in the real universe, only in our minds; they're created by our own perception. And making copies is trivial -- so where's the scarcity? How can you think that there's no real difference between these things?
Our progeny will look at these people, and the way we are "adapting" to new technology, and laugh.
Yes they do, and IMHO they're better off for it.
I guess what I was pointing out was merely that here in the US, he can't just expect compensation for having put in the time.
But god knows I'm not arguing that this is the Better Way. I think the job market is much too important to be left in the hands of the corporations.
Very good point; I was speaking about the way the US is now, but I don't necessarily think it's for the best. The places that are more socialistic probably have a better living standard than we in the US (unless you're in that top rich 1%).
What Ayn Rand didn't understand is how power affects her equations: once a company (founded as it may have been by do-ers and accomplishers who make society go) accumulates enough power, it makes it difficult or impossible for other do-ers and accomplishers to do or accomplish -- or for their acts to amount to anything.
Because once the company has power, it's no longer in the business of doing and accomplishing; it's in the business of preserving, protecting, defending, and increasing its power, Amen and Amen. And outside do-ers and accomplishers are now threats to that power. Witness Microsoft.
If they export our jobs, they'll get what they pay for (and usually do -- witness the failure that is outsourcing).
The only bad part of that situation is that it takes CEOs and boards a few years to figure out that they're not getting what they pay for when they outsource (shoddy code, slow response time, lack of understanding of American business, ad nauseum).
The reason outsourcing fails is that you can't easily just cut off one part of an organization and throw it across the world. To make that really work, you'd need to move the entire organization to that country -- and now you've just outsourced everyone except the board. Oops.
First post. Not a logical argument, unless you're trying to say that outsourcing will create more outsourcing.
Writing is an art, and like any art, it cannot be learned. You can bring a talent to maturity, but you cannot be trained to have talent.
Since when are writers "trained"? Don't you mean "talented" or "intelligent"? You can't train someone to be a good writer, anymore than you can train someone to be a good artist.
Dear God,
Please gently inform these zealots that *BSD is dead. No one uses it and it garners no respect in the technical community.
Please kill whatever is left of *BSD, Jesus. Put them out of its misery.
Love, Billy
Jesus wept.
"who's" = "whose"
>> He didn't like the direction that v5 was taking so he quit and starting writing BSD code for Apple
Yeah, that's what so many people complain about: if you were actually going to use a BSD, which one? Seems like every 5 minutes someone gets pissed off, quits, and starts a new incompatible project.
It's a kernel that doesn't even have proper source control
Of course it does. It's just not CVS.
FreeBSD has the entire core system in CVS
You're seriously trying to say that CVS is "proper" source control?
And I'm not sure why you don't mention more than four BSDs, or that each of the four you do name hate all the others. FreeBSD hates DragonflyBSD, NetBSD hates OpenBSD, ad nauseum. The only thing they can agree on is being jealous of Linux's success.
Sounds like a fancy version of all the open source IM clients out there.
Actually, it sounds more like the IM gateways on a Jabber server.
Actually, that's far less likely to happen, because Mozilla/Firefox programmers are significantly more concerned about security than Microsoft is. That MS is careless about security is a matter of fact, and demonstrated by the continuing barrage of IE problems (if not the very concept of "features" like ActiveX).
But all a crafty Osamite would need to do is become one of these business travelers. They don't think this system is foolproof, do they?