Releasing the regression tests would be a very cool thing to do, but Apple is not obliged to release them. They are only used internally and it is very well possible to modify the code without regression tests.
Well, I don't care for people raving about the new OS X. The cool features in there are spotlight, webcore and automator. It would be great to have such things as free software and I appreciate the innovation people are putting into it.
But I'll stick to KDE! Why? Because it's so darn cool to see this loosely knit group of developers at work. I love reading the weekly CVS digest and going through some discussions in mailing lists now and then.
Sure, sometimes there are annoying bugs in KDE, but I don't kid myself that there are no bugs in OS X. And the cool thing about KDE is, that if you have a good idea, you can write some nice code and it might actually get included in the official KDE!
That forbidden books list is shocking. There are many books being banned at random it seems. E.g.:
The Graphic Work of M.C. Escher. M.C. Escher. Pan/Ballentine. Retained after being challenged at Maldonado Elementary School in Tucson, Ariz. (1994) for "pornographic", "perverted", and "morbid" themes. I guess they think good art should match your sofa.
Thanks for the pointer. The single js file in the project has some useful classes. Unfortunately, there's no documentation of what these classes should do at all. This makes it very timeconsuming to even find out if what you want is in there, let alone find out how to use it.
I've been working in a prototype AJAX application for a while now and it really is a very nice idea. One cool thing that I discovered, is that javascript isn't the terrible language I always thought it was. Granted, it's not very sophisticated, but you can actually do OO programming in javascript. Notably, you can create classes, use event listeners on these classes.
However, what I'd really like to see is a good javascript library that acts as an abstraction layer that removes the browser differences in javascript, css and html support.
You are right. GPL violations are possible. If you are working with a GPL'ed program under Windows and it crashes, the binary will be sent to Microsoft if the user clicks 'Yes'. This means you are violating the GPL if you don't publish the accompanying source code too.
So image someone at Google working, under windows, on an in-house version of some GPL'ed code for their search cluster. Normally, they needn't publish the adapted version if it is only used in-house. However, if a binary is sent to Microsoft, they can demand the source code to the program.
This of course far fetched and the engineers as M$ probably wouldn't event know that the code was GPL (viral) in the first place.
Working on porting some code of my own to Windows, I've had _my_ program crash after which Dr Watson asked me if I'd like to send the code to Microsoft!
The tool will build on the existing Watson error-reporting tool in Windows but will provide Microsoft with much deeper information, including what programs were running at the time of the error and even the contents of documents that were being created.
Upon furter questioning, Microsoft declared that the errors that will be reported on, include such events as: - downloading acc or ogg format media, - writing computer code under a viral license, - closing the clippy window, - submitting informed posts to slashdot.
You don't need to nudge me:-) I'm reading slashdot which means I'm developing for Firefox, Konqueror and Opera. Every now and then I boot into windows to fix the page up for IE.
CSS across browsers can a pain, yeah. I'm actually using javascript to overcome IE's CSS absolute positioning shortcommings. How sick is that. Oh well, the result _will_ be worth it.
Anyway, by using a abstration for the
element controlled by a Div class in javascript, you work around the differences while keeping the code clean.
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I am not opposed to encryption and I'm not opposed to digitally signing documents. They are a positive part of digital rights management. The negative part is the fact that proponents of DRM want all the worlds computers to act as their policemen by using DRM supporting hardware. That's bad as you agree. But without that hardware, DRM == GPG/PGP.
No of course not. But the prototype is not very fast yet. This can and will be increased. Till then, Opera is a great help.
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Encrypting your stuff and allowing only some people to read and verifying the senders (your) identity is what both DRM and GPG/PGP do. The latter is an open standard for that. DRM is not linked to a specific implementation but a hyped name for the same process. DRM is (supposed to mean) Digital Rights Management but isn't where GPG/PGP actually _is_.
Opera is back again with a great browser. It's very fast. I've been developing a webpage that's very heavy on javascript and Opera 8 is very fast for that.
Also the implemention of SVG is pretty cool. It's not very good. Rendering is sometimes a bit weird and SVG objects are not scriptable.
Commercial compiler support - the tools shipped with the GPL version support the popular GNU CC compiler. The C++ compilers from Microsoft, Intel and Borland are not supported by the tools in the GPL version.
How would you compile it under Windows without needing cygwin? I guess we'll have to wait for Qt 4.0.0 when the first version for Windows with GPL is released.
By the way, what's up with gcc.gnu.org? It's been unreachable for days!
Castor will do generate Java classes from you XML Schema and make XML IO and validation easy. The support for Schema is not 100% (some simple types are missing and not support for keys) but overall it's a great help for avoiding writing boring IO code.
VVD and D66 have clear points on software patents: they are against software patents. For example, D66 says:
D66 is nooit voorstander geweest van de octrooiering van software, omdat het de creativiteit en bewegingsvrijheid en innovatie zelf in het gedrang kan brengen. (
source)
The only party not having an easily findable public statement is CDA. This is strange. However, I have email CDA EP members and she said she was against software patents but agreed with the current proposal. I don't have the mail here now, unfortunately.
If these parties want to support Philips in its quest for patentability, they should clearly say so.
Thanks for clearing that up, Halo1. As often in this neverending saga, the subleties are difficult. The main intent of the government is for software patents. I'd wish the Dutch parliament had proposed a stronger motion.
Slashdot Mirror
Releasing the regression tests would be a very cool thing to do, but Apple is not obliged to release them. They are only used internally and it is very well possible to modify the code without regression tests.
Well, I don't care for people raving about the new OS X. The cool features in there are spotlight, webcore and automator. It would be great to have such things as free software and I appreciate the innovation people are putting into it.
But I'll stick to KDE! Why? Because it's so darn cool to see this loosely knit group of developers at work. I love reading the weekly CVS digest and going through some discussions in mailing lists now and then.
Sure, sometimes there are annoying bugs in KDE, but I don't kid myself that there are no bugs in OS X. And the cool thing about KDE is, that if you have a good idea, you can write some nice code and it might actually get included in the official KDE!
Thanks for the pointer. The single js file in the project has some useful classes. Unfortunately, there's no documentation of what these classes should do at all. This makes it very timeconsuming to even find out if what you want is in there, let alone find out how to use it.
And I thought the title of the comment I just posted was an oxymoron!
I've been working in a prototype AJAX application for a while now and it really is a very nice idea. One cool thing that I discovered, is that javascript isn't the terrible language I always thought it was. Granted, it's not very sophisticated, but you can actually do OO programming in javascript. Notably, you can create classes, use event listeners on these classes.
However, what I'd really like to see is a good javascript library that acts as an abstraction layer that removes the browser differences in javascript, css and html support.
You are right. GPL violations are possible. If you are working with a GPL'ed program under Windows and it crashes, the binary will be sent to Microsoft if the user clicks 'Yes'. This means you are violating the GPL if you don't publish the accompanying source code too.
So image someone at Google working, under windows, on an in-house version of some GPL'ed code for their search cluster. Normally, they needn't publish the adapted version if it is only used in-house. However, if a binary is sent to Microsoft, they can demand the source code to the program.
This of course far fetched and the engineers as M$ probably wouldn't event know that the code was GPL (viral) in the first place.
Working on porting some code of my own to Windows, I've had _my_ program crash after which Dr Watson asked me if I'd like to send the code to Microsoft!
Upon furter questioning, Microsoft declared that the errors that will be reported on, include such events as:
- downloading acc or ogg format media,
- writing computer code under a viral license,
- closing the clippy window,
- submitting informed posts to slashdot.
How Zen is that?
Thanks, I just figured out that
$ echo clone | netcat thunk.org 5000 > e2fsprogs.dat
works fine on SuSE. It's just that the name's different.
$ echo clone | nc thunk.org 5000 > e2fsprogs.dat
I don't know what the equivalent of 'nc' is on SuSE Linux, but
$telnet thunk.org 5000 > e2fsprogs.dat
clone
also works. I guess the slashdot effect can be extended to other ports than port 80.
Well, Google Suggest is just as dangerous. This is _no_ mock-up, it's a result from about a month ago. Pretty shocking results for a harmless query!
You don't need to nudge me :-) I'm reading slashdot which means I'm developing for Firefox, Konqueror and Opera. Every now and then I boot into windows to fix the page up for IE.
CSS across browsers can a pain, yeah. I'm actually using javascript to overcome IE's CSS absolute positioning shortcommings. How sick is that. Oh well, the result _will_ be worth it.
Anyway, by using a abstration for the element controlled by a Div class in javascript, you work around the differences while keeping the code clean.
I am not opposed to encryption and I'm not opposed to digitally signing documents. They are a positive part of digital rights management. The negative part is the fact that proponents of DRM want all the worlds computers to act as their policemen by using DRM supporting hardware. That's bad as you agree. But without that hardware, DRM == GPG/PGP.
No of course not. But the prototype is not very fast yet. This can and will be increased. Till then, Opera is a great help.
Encrypting your stuff and allowing only some people to read and verifying the senders (your) identity is what both DRM and GPG/PGP do. The latter is an open standard for that. DRM is not linked to a specific implementation but a hyped name for the same process. DRM is (supposed to mean) Digital Rights Management but isn't where GPG/PGP actually _is_.
Opera is back again with a great browser. It's very fast. I've been developing a webpage that's very heavy on javascript and Opera 8 is very fast for that.
Also the implemention of SVG is pretty cool. It's not very good. Rendering is sometimes a bit weird and SVG objects are not scriptable.
Same in konqueror 3.3.2. No javascript errors are given out.
Kudos for a great piece of javascript though!
And way before google did:
OSXBar script by Jason Johnston (jj@lojjic.net) created July 2003.
Quickly, patent it in Europe!
(more info here.)
They did vote! They voted in favour of the motion to stop the vote on software patents being an A-item.
For: PvdA, SP, LPF, GroenLinks, D'66, Lazrak
Against: CDA, VVD, SGP, Wilders
The text of the debate (in Dutch)..
in Microsoft Word format! So no Open Source, but (relatively) Open Democracy.
How would you compile it under Windows without needing cygwin? I guess we'll have to wait for Qt 4.0.0 when the first version for Windows with GPL is released.
By the way, what's up with gcc.gnu.org? It's been unreachable for days!
Castor will do generate Java classes from you XML Schema and make XML IO and validation easy. The support for Schema is not 100% (some simple types are missing and not support for keys) but overall it's a great help for avoiding writing boring IO code.
The only party not having an easily findable public statement is CDA. This is strange. However, I have email CDA EP members and she said she was against software patents but agreed with the current proposal. I don't have the mail here now, unfortunately.
If these parties want to support Philips in its quest for patentability, they should clearly say so.
Thanks for clearing that up, Halo1. As often in this neverending saga, the subleties are difficult. The main intent of the government is for software patents. I'd wish the Dutch parliament had proposed a stronger motion.