You know, that's something that I found odd when I moved here; in the South there are 24-hour Wal-marts everywhere, but in the bay area, I don't know of any. when I mention this to people here, someone always says, "I think there's one over in ", but no one can ever confirm one.
Welcome to the bay area, where the streets are rolled up by 9:30, sharp.
The fact that it doesn't default to normal vi behavior.
YES! This is by far my biggest gripe with vim.
Ah vim, how do I hate thee, let me <OL> the ways:
Multiple level undo implemented incorrectly
The "s" command will remove text from your screen when it shouldn't
Just because I hit enter, doesn't mean I want the next line indented
Lame starting splash screens
Pointless row and column markers at the bottom of the screen
Telling me I'm in insert mode unneccesarily (Which really sucks when you have to wait for the cursor to do this on a slow connection)
Yes, most of this can be turned of. But why should I be turning off stupid default behavior because someone's decided to come along and make their defaults broken? No, it would have been much better if redhat et al decided to ship nvi 1.79 (The newer nvi's seem to be travelling down the same road vim's gone down. Luckily 1.79 works perfectly and probably won't ever need to be updated.)
I think I still saved $500, and I have a computer that will fit on a shelf, and run the latest games reasonably. I guess the final decision (whether you'll pay about $500 premium for the 'sexy' Apple case) is one of taste.
Ah, but you also get an 800mhz PPC chip, which is roughly equivilent to a 1.4-1.6ghz x86 chip. And you can run OSX on it, which is a dream to run and happily beats the pants off anything you can run on intel. Finally, I can buy the new imac for $1800, plus shipping. You have to buy your barebones system for $250+shipping, from somewhere else buy the chip, drive and ram, for another $250+shipping. Next you find the DVD-R from the one place that has it at the cheap price, but makes up for it by having all the rest of their stuff be really expensive. Same deal with the video card and LCD. Or you can bite the bullet and buy it all at the same place, and do some research to figure out where you can get the best average price.
At the end of the day, I spent 15 minutes deciding whether or not to buy a new imac, and you spent all day finding the best prices for your stuff so you could save $400. In 3 weeks when we each finally have our machines (The imac's aren't shipping for another couple weeks) I'll have mine setup and playing UT in 15 minutes. You'll have to first assemble yours, so maybe an hour later (If you're good with hardware) you have a working machine.
I dunno, to me, the $400 is worth the reduced agrivation, work, and the benefits.
Sorry, I was assuming that there was a 56K connection using v.90 technology (aka a 56k capable modem). In reality it would probably be something like 40-48k, I guess.
Er, no, the parent is still right. On a v.90 connection, you really get a 56k down/33k up connection, as the 56k only because your ISP has a digital line (ISDN PRI/BRI, T1, etc) so the signal only goes through one A/D connversion. If your local telco uses an analog connection between CO's (USWest did this around 1998 or so where I was at the time) then the signal will go A->D->A->D, which also ruin 56k downstreams and force 33.6 or lower.
So, unless you want to pay for ISDN or fiber to your home, you'll have to be satisfied with 33.6k and 200ms ping times.
a couple of years ago, ive lived in Eugene, OR. The home of Oregon State University. And I've tried to get a job in their big library. From my resume they could understand that I have no interest in MS products. And I could understand after a interview that they have no interest to use an open source OS in any way. But that was back in 1999,
Er, a couple years ago you lived in Eugene, the home of OSU? Wow, I grew up there, and I always thought the University in town was the University of Oregon (UofO) and OSU was up in Corvallis. I'm glad you set me straight, though. I wonder what other memories of that place I have that are false.
I know! That memory I have of helping to setup the link from my employer at the time to the OIX, at the University, somewhere late in 1997 or early in 1998, where I met up with several of the UofO's IT people who all used Linux or Solaris on the desktop, and were telling me about how a lot of the University was switching to Linux. Damn, I'm finding false memories all over the place.
Oh well, at least the sky is still orange and traffic lights go from blue to purple to muave.
Your puny little apocolpyse and rapture are nothing compored to the RUPTURE we face, every July 5th at 7am. Go ahead, scoff now, but when I'm up in the Pleasure Saucers you won't be laughing in the Hell on Earth left behind. THIS LINK MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE!
(My email address was reversed... until slashdot changed their stuff about -- now you just don't get to see it at all)
So I'm not the only one who decided that the lame "We'll mask it for you" feature wasn't? I dunno about anyone else, but I hid my email when the "spam armoring" didn't change for a week and a half. Uh, hi? As if it's difficult to write a filter to unobfuscate when you know the key.....
Don't you dislike the attention span problems that come up? I've never coded high but I just can't imagine marijuana being any help...
I've found that really depends on the person. Some people have better concentration while high, others can't work at all on it. Experience helps a lot, the more you smoke the easier it becomes to concentrate and achieve the mindstates that are best for coding or sysadmining. Especially when you have repetitive tasks to do.
It also increases your creativity so you sometimes come up with really elegant solutions for problems that you wouldn't have seen otherwise. But, as always, YMMV.
Remember the IPOD formating your hard drive problem a few weeks back?
<pedant>
The iPod didn't delete your hard drive, iTunes2 did, and only if you had multiple partitions. The iPod is only a firewire device, it can't directly modify other devices.
</pedant>
What, you don't have that 6th finger on your left hand that rests on the lower right corner of ESC when your hands are on the home row? You must not be a real vi user then. (vim users don't count, they can't can't even do multiple-undo properly)
Is anyone else highly disturbed by this? Have you read through that csh script? And why csh, there's no black magic there, and at least my copy of osx came with/bin/sh.
Erm, so 10.1 comes with curl, which besides providing a library for use in your own programs, also seems to be more unix-like and full featured than wget, with the exception of recursively getting an entire directory tree, which 95% of the time I use wget I'm not doing anyway. This script also doesn't seem to use wget for anything but fetching single files. (Was s/wget/curl -O/ too hard?)
Oh boy, here come the first of the unwelcome "improvements." Apple thoughtfull provided not only the bsd tar program, but a binary called "gnutar" as well that seems to support all the options of GNU tar on my linux machines (With the one exception of bzip2 compatability, but that's easily fixed by piping bzip2 output to tar.) And KILLALL, don't forget about one of the single most dangerous commands to get into the habit of using, next to rm -rf. God forbid they have to cat pid files or even use awk to figure out a process id in a one time use shell script. It might make the script ugly.
*sigh*
I really do appreciate the work GNU-Darwin is doing, they're filling the few gaps on my osx machine. I just wish they didn't go the extra mile to make my system GNUified. It's not becoming of a nice BSD install.
I wonder... if someone were to write an OSS product using one of these more obfuscated languages, I think we should ban from bearing the title OSS. People wouldnt be able to understand the code at all for their own uses or improvements. Hence it'll be Open source, but instead only the original developer would know anything about how it works, make changes, etc.
my boss and I were wondering why someone like Coke or Pepsi is allowed to ensure exclusivity with its distributors (fast food chains, etc)? Whats the difference?
I actually asked a restaurant owner about this once. Appearantly there's nothing stopping a restaurant from carrying both Pepsi and Coke (and/or RC Cola, etc) but the local distributers make it worth their while to carry only one by giving away freebies. You know, small things like soda fountains, glasses, signs, etc. Sometimes they also give them a break on the cost of the syrup and (This is me theorizing here) waiving the deposit on syrup canisters.
id have to add ll in there too, its really helpful for seeing the security levels, etc. on files and programs
skully@hailstorm:~:0$ ll
bash: ll: command not found
skully@hailstorm:~:127$ uname -a
Darwin hailstorm.frop.org 1.4 Darwin Kernel Version 1.4: Sat Sep 1 15:31:24 PDT 2001; root:xnu/xnu-194.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
{1}(skully@margin:~)0$ ll
bash: ll: command not found
{2}(skully@margin:~)127$ uname -a
Linux margin 2.2.19-4tr #1 Wed Jun 13 15:36:00 CEST 2001 i586 unknown
zwhite@cliff:/home/zwhite$ ll
ksh: ll: not found
zwhite@cliff:/home/zwhite$ uname -a
OpenBSD cliff 2.9 CLIFF#2 i386
Wow, on a sample of 3 different unix machines I happen to be logged into, not a one has a command called ll. Are you sure you're not just thinking of some lame alias your linux distro included? I've never heard of, or used, the "ll" command.
He's the reason I don't run OpenBSD. I've never met anyone who fell into the "arrogant jackass" category as neatly as he does. The only other person I've taken as immediate a dislike to is DJB
He may be an arrogant jackass, but he's never come across to me as thinking his OS is perfect for anything and everything, which is the attitude I was complaining about. He's just arrogant about how secure his software is.
The funny thing is, that's the sort of arrogance I like, and is one of the reasons I run his software. Then again, I also use a lot of djbware, for the same reason. They're two people who have earned their arrogance, and even though I'v been (indirectly) put down by djb(*), I still respect both of them and will use their software.
(*For those who are curious, DJB once posted to bugtraq saying that there aren't any patches to qmail he will endorse, and that mast of them are shit. I've produced a patch or two for qmail, and he's right. Compared to the quality of code he writes, my stuff and most everyone else's stuff is shit.)
Of course, there are more concrete reasons why I don't use Linux as well, but my dislike of the community that I would be forced to deal with is a big part of my allegance to the BSDs. The Debian zealots are by far the worst and I would almost rather watch FBSD die than have it absorbed into the circlejerk.
Funny, that's the same reason I don't use FreeBSD, I got sick of the user community. Not the people who use FreeBSD along with other os's like Linux or OpenBSD, but those who claim to use it exclusivly. They always (yes, in my experiance, always) come across as arrogant assholes, who are somehow better because they could figure out how to run FreeBSD, even though I've always found the FreeBSD install to be easier and more painless than any linux install I've ever done (From a sample set of Slackware, Redhat, Debian, and distros derived from those 3.)
Thank you for living up to the standards of FreeBSD users, you have not disappointed me at all.
(Note for those who may flame me for using generalities: I have met people who use FreeBSD who aren't arrogant assholes, however they use FreeBSD where it does well, and where appropriate, using other operating systems such as Linux, OpenBSD, MacOSX, Windows, etc where appropriate. My comments are equally appropriate for those who use Linux exclusively. The funny thing is, I have yet to meet an OpenBSD user with similar arrogance, they all realize their OS isn't the be-all-end-all of operating systems, and there are better tools for some tasks.)
I've just sold off my old Toshiba PII@266 laptop but when I try to find a cheap, light-weight system with a decent screen, Bluetooth, 802b.11, Ethernet and modem built in I come up empty-handed. The models with the bells and whistles are also oversized with CPU so the price goes up and battery life goes down
Sony's C1 line of picturebook has a 600mhz crusoe, bluetooth, ethernet, usb, firewire and pcmcia. There are companies importing it to the US now, such as dynamism.com (Note: I have no idea who they are, they're just the only company I found in the first few pages of a google search.)
Or, if you can forego bluetooth, you can do what I did and get an ibook. It's got a wonderful screen, builtin ethernet, modem, usb and firewire, and with the antenna apple thoughtfully built in to the case around the screen, my airport card gets wonderful range. And, with DVD, 20gb drive, and airport, it only cost me $1900 or so.
Plus, with the ibook's keyboard, I had no problems rearranging the keys. It would have sucked to have several keys wrong on a machine because of a pointing device between the H and G keys not allowing those to be moved (short of taking a dremel tool to I and D.)
I've never understood why every OS vendor in the world makes their terminals default to white on black. It makes my eyes hurt after only 4 or 5 minutes of use, especially if the room lighting is low.
I'll typically just go with reverse video, but when my eyes hurt, and I can't stop working for the day yet, a 10 minute break and a switch to white on blue is perfect. Maybe even a switch to 800x600 for a while.
The other thing that helps reduce eyestrain that noone has meantioned yet is to make sure your eyes have the nutrients they need. At the very minimum, I take 25,000 IU of beta carotine a day, and maybe some eyebright. It's made a world of difference in how strained my eyes get.
Maybe there is a way I am not aware of (some statistical analysis or some other smart algo. ) then i'd love to hear so, but before
that i have my doubts about usability, or legal status (in case of the marker method).
Commercials are louder than the actual program. Don't believe me? Turn your TV down until you can't make out what's being said, but you can still hear audio. Wait for a commercial. Notice you can understand what the commercial is saying.
This isn't fool proof (action movies can trigger this detection method) but you can determine the threshhold for triggoring a commercial, and use that. With a delay circuit that delays the recording 5 seconds when this feature is enabled, you could have 5s of sampling to decide whether or not to turn it on.
Why would any company that's trying to look "net-savvy" use JavaScript redirects in their HTML for something like that?
Not only that, but they resized my browser to 1280x1168. Yuck! I can't stand a brower wider than 800 pixels. (My eyes get strained otherwise, and I lose my place)
Ot rant: What the fuck is with people who insist on making their page 1000+ pixels wide? It's been proven that narrower text columns are better on your eyes, easier to read, and allow you to read quicker. A brower doesn't have to be as big as your screen.
That last is not true: I never got a price cut because I paid cash.
That's because the merchant is contractually prohibited from charging extra for credit sales. Some try to get away with it, but will usually back down if you threaten to report them to visa. (One merchant locally now tells me the visa machine is broken on a regular basis. The 3rd time this happened to me in as many weeks, I walked out of his store with my $20 of merchandise still sitting on his counter)
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Of course, given how tight lipped they've been so far, we'll see if they say anything about it.
Ah vim, how do I hate thee, let me <OL> the ways:
- Multiple level undo implemented incorrectly
- The "s" command will remove text from your screen when it shouldn't
- Just because I hit enter, doesn't mean I want the next line indented
- Lame starting splash screens
- Pointless row and column markers at the bottom of the screen
- Telling me I'm in insert mode unneccesarily (Which really sucks when you have to wait for the cursor to do this on a slow connection)
Yes, most of this can be turned of. But why should I be turning off stupid default behavior because someone's decided to come along and make their defaults broken? No, it would have been much better if redhat et al decided to ship nvi 1.79 (The newer nvi's seem to be travelling down the same road vim's gone down. Luckily 1.79 works perfectly and probably won't ever need to be updated.)At the end of the day, I spent 15 minutes deciding whether or not to buy a new imac, and you spent all day finding the best prices for your stuff so you could save $400. In 3 weeks when we each finally have our machines (The imac's aren't shipping for another couple weeks) I'll have mine setup and playing UT in 15 minutes. You'll have to first assemble yours, so maybe an hour later (If you're good with hardware) you have a working machine.
I dunno, to me, the $400 is worth the reduced agrivation, work, and the benefits.
So, unless you want to pay for ISDN or fiber to your home, you'll have to be satisfied with 33.6k and 200ms ping times.
I know! That memory I have of helping to setup the link from my employer at the time to the OIX, at the University, somewhere late in 1997 or early in 1998, where I met up with several of the UofO's IT people who all used Linux or Solaris on the desktop, and were telling me about how a lot of the University was switching to Linux. Damn, I'm finding false memories all over the place.
Oh well, at least the sky is still orange and traffic lights go from blue to purple to muave.
It's ok though, because W. will hold them off using the power of bacon and shrimp chips.
Your puny little apocolpyse and rapture are nothing compored to the RUPTURE we face, every July 5th at 7am. Go ahead, scoff now, but when I'm up in the Pleasure Saucers you won't be laughing in the Hell on Earth left behind. THIS LINK MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE!
Well we have anti-anti-flooder flooder bots!
It also increases your creativity so you sometimes come up with really elegant solutions for problems that you wouldn't have seen otherwise. But, as always, YMMV.
The iPod didn't delete your hard drive, iTunes2 did, and only if you had multiple partitions. The iPod is only a firewire device, it can't directly modify other devices.
</pedant>
From the script:
Erm, so 10.1 comes with curl, which besides providing a library for use in your own programs, also seems to be more unix-like and full featured than wget, with the exception of recursively getting an entire directory tree, which 95% of the time I use wget I'm not doing anyway. This script also doesn't seem to use wget for anything but fetching single files. (Was s/wget/curl -O/ too hard?) Oh boy, here come the first of the unwelcome "improvements." Apple thoughtfull provided not only the bsd tar program, but a binary called "gnutar" as well that seems to support all the options of GNU tar on my linux machines (With the one exception of bzip2 compatability, but that's easily fixed by piping bzip2 output to tar.) And KILLALL, don't forget about one of the single most dangerous commands to get into the habit of using, next to rm -rf. God forbid they have to cat pid files or even use awk to figure out a process id in a one time use shell script. It might make the script ugly.*sigh*
I really do appreciate the work GNU-Darwin is doing, they're filling the few gaps on my osx machine. I just wish they didn't go the extra mile to make my system GNUified. It's not becoming of a nice BSD install.
Welcome to IRC, please drive through.....
bash: ll: command not found
skully@hailstorm:~:127$ uname -a
Darwin hailstorm.frop.org 1.4 Darwin Kernel Version 1.4: Sat Sep 1 15:31:24 PDT 2001; root:xnu/xnu-194.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
{1}(skully@margin:~)0$ ll
bash: ll: command not found
{2}(skully@margin:~)127$ uname -a
Linux margin 2.2.19-4tr #1 Wed Jun 13 15:36:00 CEST 2001 i586 unknown
zwhite@cliff:/home/zwhite$ ll
ksh: ll: not found
zwhite@cliff:/home/zwhite$ uname -a
OpenBSD cliff 2.9 CLIFF#2 i386
Wow, on a sample of 3 different unix machines I happen to be logged into, not a one has a command called ll. Are you sure you're not just thinking of some lame alias your linux distro included? I've never heard of, or used, the "ll" command.
(Yes, I'm a pedantic bastard)
The funny thing is, that's the sort of arrogance I like, and is one of the reasons I run his software. Then again, I also use a lot of djbware, for the same reason. They're two people who have earned their arrogance, and even though I'v been (indirectly) put down by djb(*), I still respect both of them and will use their software.
(*For those who are curious, DJB once posted to bugtraq saying that there aren't any patches to qmail he will endorse, and that mast of them are shit. I've produced a patch or two for qmail, and he's right. Compared to the quality of code he writes, my stuff and most everyone else's stuff is shit.)
Thank you for living up to the standards of FreeBSD users, you have not disappointed me at all.
(Note for those who may flame me for using generalities: I have met people who use FreeBSD who aren't arrogant assholes, however they use FreeBSD where it does well, and where appropriate, using other operating systems such as Linux, OpenBSD, MacOSX, Windows, etc where appropriate. My comments are equally appropriate for those who use Linux exclusively. The funny thing is, I have yet to meet an OpenBSD user with similar arrogance, they all realize their OS isn't the be-all-end-all of operating systems, and there are better tools for some tasks.)
Or, if you can forego bluetooth, you can do what I did and get an ibook. It's got a wonderful screen, builtin ethernet, modem, usb and firewire, and with the antenna apple thoughtfully built in to the case around the screen, my airport card gets wonderful range. And, with DVD, 20gb drive, and airport, it only cost me $1900 or so.
Plus, with the ibook's keyboard, I had no problems rearranging the keys. It would have sucked to have several keys wrong on a machine because of a pointing device between the H and G keys not allowing those to be moved (short of taking a dremel tool to I and D.)
Yes, I'm a dvorak slut. ;=)
I'll typically just go with reverse video, but when my eyes hurt, and I can't stop working for the day yet, a 10 minute break and a switch to white on blue is perfect. Maybe even a switch to 800x600 for a while.
The other thing that helps reduce eyestrain that noone has meantioned yet is to make sure your eyes have the nutrients they need. At the very minimum, I take 25,000 IU of beta carotine a day, and maybe some eyebright. It's made a world of difference in how strained my eyes get.
This isn't fool proof (action movies can trigger this detection method) but you can determine the threshhold for triggoring a commercial, and use that. With a delay circuit that delays the recording 5 seconds when this feature is enabled, you could have 5s of sampling to decide whether or not to turn it on.
Ot rant: What the fuck is with people who insist on making their page 1000+ pixels wide? It's been proven that narrower text columns are better on your eyes, easier to read, and allow you to read quicker. A brower doesn't have to be as big as your screen.