you've got at point that at less than $0.0025 USD it would save me and my employer money it still doesn't add in the time that a pay system would take to use. At 1 minute a day, which is probably high for me with spam filtering, I'm spending less than $0.25 per day verifying that I haven't miss filtered a valid message as spam. Now assuming I send 10 messages a day(probably low) that's $0.025 USD, figure a 30 day month average, that works out to $0.75 USD which isn't too bad until you figure the time to pay the bill and verify that I'm not getting overbilled like my cell does almost every month. Checking my "email bill" means looking at roughly 300 entries, at 10 per day, to make sure everything is correct then signing off on it and passing it on to the business office. Now I'm pulling most of the numbers out of my ass but accepting them for the argument it'd come out to almost the same amount to money spent for me and my employer as what I've got now and it's a lot more hassle. OTOH if you cut that figure by an order of magnititude to $0.00025 it's beyond the realm of normal micro-payments and the the administration costs for me to deal with the problems generated by it(it's a given that any system more complex than currently in use will take more time to adminisiter than the current one which has has a few decades to mature). anyway my point is that even using some sort of micro-payment system doesn't really make sense as a system to simply get rid of spam. To be perfectly honest I can't think of a good reason to use any sort of payment system for email, especially not when the cost of bandwidth is dropping(which is the trend). just think of what would happen to a knowledge workers productivity if they had to pay(even micro) for google. in the long run it simply doesn't work out. As a counter point to all of this, I'm aware of a number(>3 that I personally know) that have totally dropped off the net because of spam problems. these people were getting in excess of 4000 spams a day and had no idea how to deal with it(change isp?) and it totally destroyed their email capabilities(outlook express or aol) when using a dial-up connection. Finally, I'd say go for it if Microsoft wants to give a reasonable liscence to *all* free software,GPL included, it'd benefit them too, and regardless of what the zealots say, hey I use linux everywhere i can I'm even posting this from konq on my laptop, Microsoft isn't evil, bad company maybe but not evil. They even have a clear benefit to getting OSS/FS to adopt their standard, marketing. I can see the ads now, mentioning inovation and microsoft setting the standards and all. Hey they'd be getting the world(OSS) to dance to their tune and they are looking for a break like that...
--any spelling or grammar nazi's can blame captian morgan for problems in this post:)
works well with linux(mac os shouldn't be a problem) lots of reader software available(not sure about microsoft reader for a palm) it's got a usb cradle for syncing/charging fairly long battery life(no week long hikes in the mountains tho) the screen is easy on the eyes, at least for me, and this tends for by subjective. cheap on e-bay. if you back off the cheap requirement get a newer palm based device, they are worth it. and some of then even play mp3s while you read:)
the GPL is a license, like the license you get with nearly any other piece of software(eg. ms windows). if you distribute something with a GPL license and fail to provide the code, you are violating a contract and may be sued or otherwise litagated into oblivion.
Hell I wish I had more 5 1/4 bays. 3 3ware drive cages , and extra drive , dvd-burner , and the cd-burner fill all available slots in my workstation. but then again that's a 4U rackmount case.... only found one case with more bays but they wanted waaaaay to much.
I've got a similar setup up work 2 17" and a 19" in the middle. I'm so used to it now I, I just don't know how I'd work otherwise,and I'm even looking for another 17" for my work desk. I can't stand my single 17" at home now, there's just no room to work. think of it this way, I hire an accountant and instead of a desk I give them a legal size clipboard and expect them to work effeicently, they'd go nuts, that's just not enought room to work. well it's the same with the "desktop" on the computer. This is expecially true when your sole work environment is on the screen with little or no paper, as is the case with most programmers. you are correct about the documentation on one screen and code on another, then I use the 3rd for random work stuff( a term with my editor for notes when I'm one the phone or doing design q&a with my boss etc., and other random desktop stuff like xmms/winamp and e-mail).
My big gripe with nvidia/linux is that they don't use the standard DRI stuff and they require you to replace your glx module. Because you have to replace the module any other card you try to run with it makes X crash! I had to get an ATi card just to use my second head. I not really against nvidia's binary only drivers I just want compatibility with my other hardware too, and on linux that usually means source code for drivers, they could put a restrictive license on it but being able to change the source on my machine so that ALL my hardware worked would have kept me buying nvidia wheras not I'm only using ati:/
with respect to literary works, they are generally not licensed so that's not an issue. If you make a change to the kernel(a part that Linus wrote) and submit a patch then linus accepts it its licensed under the GPL, but I'm not exactly sure how the copyright works there, I *think* it's shared(ie you own the part you wrote). Iirc if you write a totally new, say, module then it's your copyright on that file. You can't make changes to the kernel then distribute a binary of said kernel and not offer the source, that's the idea of the GPL, and that's my understanding of whats happening here.
absolutly, I live in central texas and thgouth about looking for a job is austin, I took a look at the statesman and found: ONE admin job with a minimum 5 years xp and a degree, one programming job with similar req's, and a few (computer)graphic artists positions. This was quite a shock so I did some searching on the web in a few job listing sites and found more job postings but nowhere near what I expected, even after concidering the economy.
that assumes you have some sort fo access to the db. one of the original reasons for "smart cards" was that they didn't require access to any sort of network during transactions, iirc. oh, btw so called "smart cards" also have the capability to store your balance and they can stop you from spending more than you've budgeted and will certianly stop you from spending more than is in your account.
if you had bothered read read the article you would know that evas, which e17 is built on top of, IS significantly faster and more responsive because it uses hardware acceleration. I'm not talking about that wimpy XAA for doing bitblt's I'm talking about using OpenGL 3D card stuff, if you recall OpenGL is a grahpic library that happens to be quite good at 3D but it's not limited to 3D(check out the blender interface for an example, of evas:). From what I've read so far evas has three modes for it's backend, OGL, XAA, and plain X. So you complaint that the speed is limited by X it self is plainly not true, if you are using the OGL mode with hardware accell.
I agree with some of your points, most of them actually. The one i have a problem with is your point about the interface. I have used all the programs you've listed and then some for 3D content creation and you just have to learn the interface to truly understand. If blender were to get a renderer that was more on par with bryce 4 or worldbuilder I'd never touch any other 3D package. The reason I feel this way is the interface, I picked up blender and played with it way back when it was first released and put it down quickly b/c I couldn't do anything with it. Well, that all changed when I found a tutorial describing what keys do what functions. Now when I reach for a 3D tool my first choice is blender and it's because of how fast/easy it is to use.
The blender UI is a two handed thing, you need one hand on the keyboard and one on the mouse. Gestures and keystrokes get you in and out of all the different modes and functions. As for modeling features I will say blender is currently lacking althought it is catching up, it's also much younger than Max, lightwave, maya etc., it still has a way to go. the other nice thing about the ui is that it's totally customizable and the gui setup is saved in your one file with everything else.
Once again, I'll say it, please try to learn the blender interface before calling it obtuse and impossible and discarding it as a very useful tool, because that's what it is. It's even useful to 3D modelers who mostly work in other programs.
And did a reasonable job, and actually read some of the posts and replied too:)
Thanks.
btw is there a place where the public can see older data or all of the publicly released data in one place?
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Did you change the Tile cache settings??? they are adjustable in the latest version. and I don't see gimp getting pantone colors or anything like it soon as those are licensed databases. Gimp *does* do color seperation and X does do color calibration, but it's not going to be nearly as easy as ColorSync though. As for comparing speed of a 300x300 image to a 3000x3000 image, and saying they should be the same, you are nuts! Maybe if it were possible for that photoshop to not scale at all(ie same performance regardless of image size, spame time to do a blur or anything else) then I'd say ok photoshop was better designed. But sooner or later photoshop is going to choke if you keep increasing image size esp. if you keep the image square(3*10^10x3*10^10
as opposed to 3*10^10x3000).
I'm sorry did you say forced? were you handcuffed or physically restrained, if so please contact you local law enforcement. Otherewise quit complaining, you can quit at (nearly) anytime in most fo the US.
Now as for a union, that's fine just so long as I don't *have* to belong to your union and pay dues for things I really disagree with. I'm not trying to pass a law so that you can't eat hotdogs because they have lots of preservitives, so kindly do create a union to tell me where/when/how I can or can't work.
TNSTAAFL. (There's No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.)
It's from 'the moon is a harsh mistress' and it is tanstaafl - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch, the first a is significant because the acronym is pronounced tan staff el.
just thought you might like to know.
no you can't seem to read english. He call and asked if buying the unit for his dad would charge his OWN CARD for service he would NEVER recieve. They answered that he would NOT be charged. Then they charged him. I'm concidering buying one of the things for grandparents and I sure as hell don't want service charges on my CC they aren't paying for the box I'm. When they get box I've payed for they will pay for the service. That's what the guy asked for, was told sure that cool, then charged anyway. My impression is that he ordered over the phone so it doesn't matter what the website said.
I agree %100! I remember reading anything I could get my hands on that was either Sci-fi or Fantasy excepting the D&D books(never got into them althought I've often played) and never had a single problem because of content. I do have to admit that quite a bit of the material was over my head and I knew it them but still I enjoyed reading the books none the less. Now I recently gone back and reread almost every book I own and I've noticed that I don't seem to be 'missing' some of the stuff that I felt I was the first time around. And it was also great to feel that I had complete control over what I read, no censorship from parents or anything.
You seem to think consistency is a GOOD THING. I dbeg to differ, consistency is good but ONLY within a specific application. I DON'T want to be limited by your preferences and I don't like the infinite zones at the edges of the screen. This is one of my favorite things about most X apps is that either they're completely skinable(ie., buttons aren't in fixed locations...) or they aim for functionality for that specific app. Now I will agree that for a beginner having a generic consistent interface is probably a good thing. Although look at the other side, if none of the apps you use had a similar interface but a button still had the same functionality in that it was still a button, users would tend to learn the concept of a button and not the syntax of this exact picture means a button and I need to click on it. This is a good idea and it already exists within the X Window System. And with all the diferent toolkits I don't see this changing.
I'm supprised you didn't list gtop ktop or xosview. Now I'll grant you xosview isn't pretty but how many system monitors show IRQ's? I also found fault that they didn't use SWAT, AFAIK it's installed with Red HaT 6.1 but not enabled by default. If these factors were taken into account Linux probably tied with NetWare for first by their own tally. I just confused as to how they figured W2k took first after reading I expected it to be Novell, which I find reasonable b/c They have a great product.
Has nobody concidered creating a country for this purpose. Find some small geographic location that can be purchased from it's current government and setup up a few data laws and you're off to the races. simple
Ok, maybe I'm not getting this right but the Patent (5,701,383) for a "video time shifting device" pretty much describes a pc with a tv-input card. The patent says it preferably uses some digital medium to do the storing of the video. Now IANAL, but I don't think this patent would hold water in court as it's date is 1997 and tv-input cards have been around since at least 90. It seems to me that on a cursory inspection the other patents are at least as vague as to describe a whole computer(tivo) and in being so vague they go beyond the scope of a patent. It's like having a patent on a method of locomotion with four supporting wheels and suing dodge for making a car.
Working as a computer tech in jan 99 we had a flood of people comming into our shop with computer that "wouldn't boot" after they tried a "Y2K" test that some local news media suggested. Some of the computers were pentiums but don't think that we had any PII's. Any way the best was a coach at a local high school who set his clock in BIOS and watched the screen shut off when it hit roll-over.
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you've got at point that at less than $0.0025 USD it would save me and my employer money it still doesn't add in the time that a pay system would take to use. At 1 minute a day, which is probably high for me with spam filtering, I'm spending less than $0.25 per day verifying that I haven't miss filtered a valid message as spam. Now assuming I send 10 messages a day(probably low) that's $0.025 USD, figure a 30 day month average, that works out to $0.75 USD which isn't too bad until you figure the time to pay the bill and verify that I'm not getting overbilled like my cell does almost every month. Checking my "email bill" means looking at roughly 300 entries, at 10 per day, to make sure everything is correct then signing off on it and passing it on to the business office. Now I'm pulling most of the numbers out of my ass but accepting them for the argument it'd come out to almost the same amount to money spent for me and my employer as what I've got now and it's a lot more hassle. OTOH if you cut that figure by an order of magnititude to $0.00025 it's beyond the realm of normal micro-payments and the the administration costs for me to deal with the problems generated by it(it's a given that any system more complex than currently in use will take more time to adminisiter than the current one which has has a few decades to mature). anyway my point is that even using some sort of micro-payment system doesn't really make sense as a system to simply get rid of spam. To be perfectly honest I can't think of a good reason to use any sort of payment system for email, especially not when the cost of bandwidth is dropping(which is the trend). just think of what would happen to a knowledge workers productivity if they had to pay(even micro) for google. in the long run it simply doesn't work out.
:)
As a counter point to all of this, I'm aware of a number(>3 that I personally know) that have totally dropped off the net because of spam problems. these people were getting in excess of 4000 spams a day and had no idea how to deal with it(change isp?) and it totally destroyed their email capabilities(outlook express or aol) when using a dial-up connection.
Finally, I'd say go for it if Microsoft wants to give a reasonable liscence to *all* free software,GPL included, it'd benefit them too, and regardless of what the zealots say, hey I use linux everywhere i can I'm even posting this from konq on my laptop, Microsoft isn't evil, bad company maybe but not evil. They even have a clear benefit to getting OSS/FS to adopt their standard, marketing. I can see the ads now, mentioning inovation and microsoft setting the standards and all. Hey they'd be getting the world(OSS) to dance to their tune and they are looking for a break like that...
--any spelling or grammar nazi's can blame captian morgan for problems in this post
works well with linux(mac os shouldn't be a problem) :)
lots of reader software available(not sure about microsoft reader for a palm)
it's got a usb cradle for syncing/charging
fairly long battery life(no week long hikes in the mountains tho)
the screen is easy on the eyes, at least for me, and this tends for by subjective.
cheap on e-bay.
if you back off the cheap requirement get a newer palm based device, they are worth it. and some of then even play mp3s while you read
the GPL is a license, like the license you get with nearly any other piece of software(eg. ms windows). if you distribute something with a GPL license and fail to provide the code, you are violating a contract and may be sued or otherwise litagated into oblivion.
duh.
Hell I wish I had more 5 1/4 bays. 3 3ware drive cages , and extra drive , dvd-burner , and the cd-burner fill all available slots in my workstation. but then again that's a 4U rackmount case.... only found one case with more bays but they wanted waaaaay to much.
so when are we gonna get external SATA cases?
eof
I've got a similar setup up work 2 17" and a 19" in the middle. I'm so used to it now I, I just don't know how I'd work otherwise,and I'm even looking for another 17" for my work desk. I can't stand my single 17" at home now, there's just no room to work. think of it this way, I hire an accountant and instead of a desk I give them a legal size clipboard and expect them to work effeicently, they'd go nuts, that's just not enought room to work. well it's the same with the "desktop" on the computer. This is expecially true when your sole work environment is on the screen with little or no paper, as is the case with most programmers. you are correct about the documentation on one screen and code on another, then I use the 3rd for random work stuff( a term with my editor for notes when I'm one the phone or doing design q&a with my boss etc., and other random desktop stuff like xmms/winamp and e-mail).
My big gripe with nvidia/linux is that they don't use the standard DRI stuff and they require you to replace your glx module. Because you have to replace the module any other card you try to run with it makes X crash! I had to get an ATi card just to use my second head. I not really against nvidia's binary only drivers I just want compatibility with my other hardware too, and on linux that usually means source code for drivers, they could put a restrictive license on it but being able to change the source on my machine so that ALL my hardware worked would have kept me buying nvidia wheras not I'm only using ati :/
yup, they cut my favorite line from the book where Ron says, "Have you gone mad, are you a witch or not?" to Hermione. :(
with respect to literary works, they are generally not licensed so that's not an issue. If you make a change to the kernel(a part that Linus wrote) and submit a patch then linus accepts it its licensed under the GPL, but I'm not exactly sure how the copyright works there, I *think* it's shared(ie you own the part you wrote). Iirc if you write a totally new, say, module then it's your copyright on that file. You can't make changes to the kernel then distribute a binary of said kernel and not offer the source, that's the idea of the GPL, and that's my understanding of whats happening here.
absolutly, I live in central texas and thgouth about looking for a job is austin, I took a look at the statesman and found: ONE admin job with a minimum 5 years xp and a degree, one programming job with similar req's, and a few (computer)graphic artists positions. This was quite a shock so I did some searching on the web in a few job listing sites and found more job postings but nowhere near what I expected, even after concidering the economy.
this is one of my favorite reasons,as a user, for using GTK, the programmer/s know as little as possible about sizes and placements.
that assumes you have some sort fo access to the db. one of the original reasons for "smart cards" was that they didn't require access to any sort of network during transactions, iirc. oh, btw so called "smart cards" also have the capability to store your balance and they can stop you from spending more than you've budgeted and will certianly stop you from spending more than is in your account.
if you had bothered read read the article you would know that evas, which e17 is built on top of, IS significantly faster and more responsive because it uses hardware acceleration. I'm not talking about that wimpy XAA for doing bitblt's I'm talking about using OpenGL 3D card stuff, if you recall OpenGL is a grahpic library that happens to be quite good at 3D but it's not limited to 3D(check out the blender interface for an example, of evas:). From what I've read so far evas has three modes for it's backend, OGL, XAA, and plain X. So you complaint that the speed is limited by X it self is plainly not true, if you are using the OGL mode with hardware accell.
I agree with some of your points, most of them actually. The one i have a problem with is your point about the interface. I have used all the programs you've listed and then some for 3D content creation and you just have to learn the interface to truly understand. If blender were to get a renderer that was more on par with bryce 4 or worldbuilder I'd never touch any other 3D package. The reason I feel this way is the interface, I picked up blender and played with it way back when it was first released and put it down quickly b/c I couldn't do anything with it. Well, that all changed when I found a tutorial describing what keys do what functions. Now when I reach for a 3D tool my first choice is blender and it's because of how fast/easy it is to use.
The blender UI is a two handed thing, you need one hand on the keyboard and one on the mouse. Gestures and keystrokes get you in and out of all the different modes and functions. As for modeling features I will say blender is currently lacking althought it is catching up, it's also much younger than Max, lightwave, maya etc., it still has a way to go. the other nice thing about the ui is that it's totally customizable and the gui setup is saved in your one file with everything else.
Once again, I'll say it, please try to learn the blender interface before calling it obtuse and impossible and discarding it as a very useful tool, because that's what it is. It's even useful to 3D modelers who mostly work in other programs.
And did a reasonable job, and actually read some of the posts and replied too :)
Thanks.
btw is there a place where the public can see older data or all of the publicly released data in one place?
Did you change the Tile cache settings??? they are adjustable in the latest version. and I don't see gimp getting pantone colors or anything like it soon as those are licensed databases. Gimp *does* do color seperation and X does do color calibration, but it's not going to be nearly as easy as ColorSync though. As for comparing speed of a 300x300 image to a 3000x3000 image, and saying they should be the same, you are nuts! Maybe if it were possible for that photoshop to not scale at all(ie same performance regardless of image size, spame time to do a blur or anything else) then I'd say ok photoshop was better designed. But sooner or later photoshop is going to choke if you keep increasing image size esp. if you keep the image square(3*10^10x3*10^10
as opposed to 3*10^10x3000).
I'm sorry did you say forced? were you handcuffed or physically restrained, if so please contact you local law enforcement. Otherewise quit complaining, you can quit at (nearly) anytime in most fo the US.
Now as for a union, that's fine just so long as I don't *have* to belong to your union and pay dues for things I really disagree with. I'm not trying to pass a law so that you can't eat hotdogs because they have lots of preservitives, so kindly do create a union to tell me where/when/how I can or can't work.
TNSTAAFL. (There's No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.)
It's from 'the moon is a harsh mistress' and it is
tanstaafl - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch,
the first a is significant because the acronym is pronounced tan staff el. just thought you might like to know.
it's not a company Linus Torvalds owns the 'linux' trademark in relation to the linux operating system/kernel
no you can't seem to read english. He call and asked if buying the unit for his dad would charge his OWN CARD for service he would NEVER recieve. They answered that he would NOT be charged. Then they charged him. I'm concidering buying one of the things for grandparents and I sure as hell don't want service charges on my CC they aren't paying for the box I'm. When they get box I've payed for they will pay for the service. That's what the guy asked for, was told sure that cool, then charged anyway. My impression is that he ordered over the phone so it doesn't matter what the website said.
I agree %100! I remember reading anything I could get my hands on that was either Sci-fi or Fantasy excepting the D&D books(never got into them althought I've often played) and never had a single problem because of content. I do have to admit that quite a bit of the material was over my head and I knew it them but still I enjoyed reading the books none the less. Now I recently gone back and reread almost every book I own and I've noticed that I don't seem to be 'missing' some of the stuff that I felt I was the first time around. And it was also great to feel that I had complete control over what I read, no censorship from parents or anything.
You seem to think consistency is a GOOD THING. I dbeg to differ, consistency is good but ONLY within a specific application. I DON'T want to be limited by your preferences and I don't like the infinite zones at the edges of the screen. This is one of my favorite things about most X apps is that either they're completely skinable(ie., buttons aren't in fixed locations...) or they aim for functionality for that specific app. Now I will agree that for a beginner having a generic consistent interface is probably a good thing. Although look at the other side, if none of the apps you use had a similar interface but a button still had the same functionality in that it was still a button, users would tend to learn the concept of a button and not the syntax of this exact picture means a button and I need to click on it. This is a good idea and it already exists within the X Window System. And with all the diferent toolkits I don't see this changing.
I'm supprised you didn't list gtop ktop or xosview. Now I'll grant you xosview isn't pretty but how many system monitors show IRQ's? I also found fault that they didn't use SWAT, AFAIK it's installed with Red HaT 6.1 but not enabled by default. If these factors were taken into account Linux probably tied with NetWare for first by their own tally. I just confused as to how they figured W2k took first after reading I expected it to be Novell, which I find reasonable b/c They have a great product.
Has nobody concidered creating a country for this purpose. Find some small geographic location that can be purchased from it's current government and setup up a few data laws and you're off to the races. simple
Ok, maybe I'm not getting this right but the Patent (5,701,383) for a "video time shifting device" pretty much describes a pc with a tv-input card. The patent says it preferably uses some digital medium to do the storing of the video. Now IANAL, but I don't think this patent would hold water in court as it's date is 1997 and tv-input cards have been around since at least 90. It seems to me that on a cursory inspection the other patents are at least as vague as to describe a whole computer(tivo) and in being so vague they go beyond the scope of a patent. It's like having a patent on a method of locomotion with four supporting wheels and suing dodge for making a car.
Working as a computer tech in jan 99 we had a flood of people comming into our shop with computer that "wouldn't boot" after they tried a "Y2K" test that some local news media suggested. Some of the computers were pentiums but don't think that we had any PII's. Any way the best was a coach at a local high school who set his clock in BIOS and watched the screen shut off when it hit roll-over.