Has anyone bothered to read all the info available? try reading Alex de Joode's version of what is going on. this is not a case of simple squatting. according to him, he was trying to help the community by providing a site where various versions of the software could be obtained. this was not someone setting out to "cause trouble".
you also notice that he tried to arrange a settlement with OpenSSH, which they rejected.
i personally find the letter to slashdot to be in poor taste. this was an affair that was between two groups, and now OpenSSH has tried to bring a bunch of people against Alex de Joode by using slashdot as a forum.
this is not a site to fight your personal wars. this should have remained between mr. de Joode and the OpenSSH group.
and a note to people posting here, try to read all the info at the sites before unleashing your flames on someone. you might miss something important.
---------------- "All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
Did anyone else notice that at the bottom of the page, under Developer Pledge Support, it says:
Not surprisingly, Mac OS X debuts with public pledges of support from more than 100 developers, including Adobe Systems, Microsoft, Quark, Macromedia, Palm Computing, id Software and many others. Together, we're taking everything you love about the Mac and making it better.
does this mean that those companies are going to be making software for the MacOSX? and as it is a unix based system, would those then be portable to the other unix based systems? could we finally be seeing support from these major companies in software design for non-windows/mac based machines? -freakinPsycho
---------------- "All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
ok, this is probably flame bait, but oh well, i'm used to being bashed. i've noticed a fair number of posts before me that are praising the gimp so much more over commercial software simply because it's free and you have the source code.
sorry, guys, just because you have the source code, you got it for free, and it IS a decent program, doesn't mean it can so easily replace a lot of comercial programs. don't get me wrong, gimp is cool, i like it, it's got some fun stuff, but it's got quite a ways to go until it gets to the level of Photoshop, PaintShopPro, and it looks like even this Photogenics (though i admit i havn't used photogenics). if nothing else, the plugins available for the other programs make them worthwhile. when i see metacreations putting out kia's power tools for the gimp, then i'll be impressed. point is, these comercial apps do have something that gimp and some other linux apps don't: they are industry standards. as such, they have the add-ons and portability that simply aren't found in many linux apps. until the day comes when the adobe suite is ported to linux, the metacreations products get ported, and several other high quality graphic apps get ported, i'm still going to need a windows or mac around. at this point, if i want a server, i set up linux. if i want to do graphics, sound production, and a few other things, i'll take mac or win. i may not like it, but it's what i have to do.
---------------- "All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
Remember, though, Linus is working there as well. Don't you think that the Linux port is already being worked on, in a porters dream enviroment, as he is working for the company making the chip. Obviously this probably isn't his primary concern there, but I doubt that the code isn't being written already. And when the chip is unveiled, just imagine it being on a machine running Linux.
---------------- "All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
or, to quote White Zombie.. "I want more life fucker, i am not done" (i found it really didn't like the word, ain't) all are fun, but italian is really odd... seems to like the word that
"Sagan also wrote that pot enhanced his experience of food, particularly potatoes, music and sex."
yup.. anyone who has smoked pot can tell you that.
and i am all for legalization. i think it should be used responsibly, however, which it is often not.
and about the "safeness" of marijuana, it is non-physically addictive (unlike nicotine and alcohol), it does not provoke people to violence (like alcohol can do easier) and no one has ever died directly from marijuana except for the few people who are alergic to it. safer than a lot of things which are legal. but then, who ever said that US laws make sense.
all i got to say is i'm damn glad i'm a "young'n"... i'm too lazy to be gathering amino acids.. sounds like too much work to me.. i think getting out of my chair to get food and feeding myself is enough work as it is.. if we can have voice controlled computers, then we should have voice controlled fridges, microwaves, and a couple servants around to feed my lazy arse..
it may have started in the united states, but that doesn't mean we controll it. might as well say that us companies have the right to tax electric corporations in other countries, as this is where electricity origonated. get a clue, you fool. it is a global network, no one owns it all, and no one ever will.
freakinPsycho
"Generation Tripple-X, we're all about the weed smoke and the kinky sex.." -Ice Cube and Korn.. "Children of the Korn"
BUT this will only allow internet access for that particular machine. (as far as i and my supervisor know)
i work for a tech support company (we do tech support for isps all over the country) so i have run into this before. Ross got it right on how to set it up, but something else you may want to consider is setting up a firewall (annoying, i know, but it helps) or doing ip mascarading (can't spell that). either one will work. this must be done if you want the entire network to be able to access the internet through that dial up connection. there is also a program called WinRoute (so i understand, i havn't seen the prog myself) that will do pretty much the same thing, and allow that NT machine to act as a router.
the other solution is not to use NT, but instead 98. the upgrade for that OS includes a setup where multiple computers can share the same dial out. i havn't tried it, but i understand it's there and that it works.
i am listening to the soundtrack right now.. and it is great... i agree, that was a great transition, though i was able to tell, just because i really listen to the music in movies, as i am music obsessed. and yes, that last part was kinda cheesy, as i said to my friend i was with, "and now for the sleeping bride scene", but that's ok.. i can deal.. it comes down to: see the movie, buy the soundtrack.. (just not from wal-mart or anywhere else that edits, as you won't miss too much, but it does cut out some) -freakinPsycho
"I think it would be a good idea" -Ghandi (in response to a question, "what do you think of western civilization")
future not that dark? and why not? we are talking about machines that humans are programming, giving intelligence. well, i'm sorry, but humanity inherintly is violent, controlling, and believeing in a new "manifest destiny", that of all life. So why should a creation out of the minds of humanity be any different from its makers? Think about it... children are more and more violent.. and an AI system is just the child of one person or a group of them.. as a child it will be influenced by its "parents". And don't think that there aren't a few govt's that wouldn't like to use an AI system for it's own purposes. Give a machine intelligence, the ability to grow mentally, and then give it a modem and a phone connection, and see what it can't learn. A child without any human morals (whatever those really are, i'm not always sure they even exist) with access to unlimited knowledge, twisted views of truth, and having the knowledge that it can rule. Hell, even if you give it a concince somehow, so that it seeks to do only "good", it's quite likely it could see that good as being the enslavement of humanity and forcing it to see the truth it has seen.. and to force that truth on everyone, by force if nessasary, all in the name of good and humanity.
ok, so i tend to have a dark view of humanity in general, and its creations, but i do think i have a point here. well, anyway.. let the bashing of me begin:)
-freakinPsycho "I think it would be a good idea" -Ghandi (after being asked what he thought of western civilization)
Slashdot Mirror
you also notice that he tried to arrange a settlement with OpenSSH, which they rejected.
i personally find the letter to slashdot to be in poor taste. this was an affair that was between two groups, and now OpenSSH has tried to bring a bunch of people against Alex de Joode by using slashdot as a forum.
this is not a site to fight your personal wars. this should have remained between mr. de Joode and the OpenSSH group.
and a note to people posting here, try to read all the info at the sites before unleashing your flames on someone. you might miss something important.
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"All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
Did anyone else notice that at the bottom of the page, under Developer Pledge Support, it says:
Not surprisingly, Mac OS X debuts with public pledges of support from more than 100 developers, including Adobe Systems, Microsoft, Quark, Macromedia, Palm Computing, id Software and many others. Together, we're taking everything you love about the Mac and making it better.
does this mean that those companies are going to be making software for the MacOSX? and as it is a unix based system, would those then be portable to the other unix based systems? could we finally be seeing support from these major companies in software design for non-windows/mac based machines?
-freakinPsycho
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"All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
i've noticed a fair number of posts before me that are praising the gimp so much more over commercial software simply because it's free and you have the source code.
sorry, guys, just because you have the source code, you got it for free, and it IS a decent program, doesn't mean it can so easily replace a lot of comercial programs.
don't get me wrong, gimp is cool, i like it, it's got some fun stuff, but it's got quite a ways to go until it gets to the level of Photoshop, PaintShopPro, and it looks like even this Photogenics (though i admit i havn't used photogenics).
if nothing else, the plugins available for the other programs make them worthwhile. when i see metacreations putting out kia's power tools for the gimp, then i'll be impressed.
point is, these comercial apps do have something that gimp and some other linux apps don't: they are industry standards. as such, they have the add-ons and portability that simply aren't found in many linux apps.
until the day comes when the adobe suite is ported to linux, the metacreations products get ported, and several other high quality graphic apps get ported, i'm still going to need a windows or mac around. at this point, if i want a server, i set up linux. if i want to do graphics, sound production, and a few other things, i'll take mac or win. i may not like it, but it's what i have to do.
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"All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
Remember, though, Linus is working there as well. Don't you think that the Linux port is already being worked on, in a porters dream enviroment, as he is working for the company making the chip. Obviously this probably isn't his primary concern there, but I doubt that the code isn't being written already.
And when the chip is unveiled, just imagine it being on a machine running Linux.
----------------
"All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
or, to quote White Zombie..
"I want more life fucker, i am not done"
(i found it really didn't like the word, ain't)
all are fun, but italian is really odd... seems to like the word that
"Sagan also wrote that pot enhanced his experience of food, particularly potatoes, music and sex."
yup.. anyone who has smoked pot can tell you that.
and i am all for legalization. i think it should be used responsibly, however, which it is often not.
and about the "safeness" of marijuana, it is non-physically addictive (unlike nicotine and alcohol), it does not provoke people to violence (like alcohol can do easier) and no one has ever died directly from marijuana except for the few people who are alergic to it.
safer than a lot of things which are legal.
but then, who ever said that US laws make sense.
just my pair of pennies...
-freakinPsycho
one word:
Amsterdam
though you notice the ad banner at the top still works... nice to know that though slashdot may fall, capitalism still lives..
all i got to say is i'm damn glad i'm a "young'n" ... i'm too lazy to be gathering amino acids.. sounds like too much work to me.. i think getting out of my chair to get food and feeding myself is enough work as it is.. if we can have voice controlled computers, then we should have voice controlled fridges, microwaves, and a couple servants around to feed my lazy arse..
try 1,008,340 hits
what? because they happen to enjoy something that most people do?
i don't see the problem.
i always have seen sex as a good thing.
or even worse, some of us do tech support for them and the "American" internet.
try leading those arrogant morons through all of their computer. THAT is frustration.
it may have started in the united states, but that doesn't mean we controll it. might as well say that us companies have the right to tax electric corporations in other countries, as this is where electricity origonated. get a clue, you fool. it is a global network, no one owns it all, and no one ever will.
.. "Children of the Korn"
freakinPsycho
"Generation Tripple-X, we're all about the weed smoke and the kinky sex.."
-Ice Cube and Korn
yup, you got it.
BUT this will only allow internet access for that particular machine. (as far as i and my supervisor know)
i work for a tech support company (we do tech support for isps all over the country) so i have run into this before. Ross got it right on how to set it up, but something else you may want to consider is setting up a firewall (annoying, i know, but it helps) or doing ip mascarading (can't spell that). either one will work. this must be done if you want the entire network to be able to access the internet through that dial up connection. there is also a program called WinRoute (so i understand, i havn't seen the prog myself) that will do pretty much the same thing, and allow that NT machine to act as a router.
the other solution is not to use NT, but instead 98. the upgrade for that OS includes a setup where multiple computers can share the same dial out. i havn't tried it, but i understand it's there and that it works.
-davidv
NetHelp International
(the company i work for)
i am listening to the soundtrack right now.. and it is great...
i agree, that was a great transition, though i was able to tell, just because i really listen to the music in movies, as i am music obsessed.
and yes, that last part was kinda cheesy, as i said to my friend i was with, "and now for the sleeping bride scene", but that's ok.. i can deal..
it comes down to:
see the movie, buy the soundtrack..
(just not from wal-mart or anywhere else that edits, as you won't miss too much, but it does cut out some)
-freakinPsycho
"I think it would be a good idea"
-Ghandi
(in response to a question, "what do you think of western civilization")
future not that dark? and why not? we are talking about machines that humans are programming, giving intelligence. well, i'm sorry, but humanity inherintly is violent, controlling, and believeing in a new "manifest destiny", that of all life. So why should a creation out of the minds of humanity be any different from its makers?
:)
Think about it... children are more and more violent.. and an AI system is just the child of one person or a group of them.. as a child it will be influenced by its "parents". And don't think that there aren't a few govt's that wouldn't like to use an AI system for it's own purposes.
Give a machine intelligence, the ability to grow mentally, and then give it a modem and a phone connection, and see what it can't learn. A child without any human morals (whatever those really are, i'm not always sure they even exist) with access to unlimited knowledge, twisted views of truth, and having the knowledge that it can rule. Hell, even if you give it a concince somehow, so that it seeks to do only "good", it's quite likely it could see that good as being the enslavement of humanity and forcing it to see the truth it has seen.. and to force that truth on everyone, by force if nessasary, all in the name of good and humanity.
ok, so i tend to have a dark view of humanity in general, and its creations, but i do think i have a point here.
well, anyway..
let the bashing of me begin
-freakinPsycho
"I think it would be a good idea"
-Ghandi (after being asked what he thought of western civilization)