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So without a doubt, the best time for the power supply in your
server to die is when you're out of town. Oh, and the line to your
boxes at home should die too. And the only machine with a working
modem in your hotel room should be an NT box (without ssh installed) and then the connection you dial through should be 19 hops away from anything (routing from San Jose to NY, DC, Boston, and back to Frisco and conveniently losing almost all of the packets) Anyway, we're back
up and kinda hobbling now, (thanks to Jesse & Dan and UP Networks for being jonny's-on-the-spot) but I'm trying to fix some stuff
as fast as I can. In the meantime, things are gonna be a bit zany,
so don't flame me to loud. And don't worry, we've been working for
the last month to build a new system with redundancy and stuff so that
this won't happen again (knock on wood).
I got to agree - maybe it's just that all the graphical fluff is comming back immediatly as a broken image, and so the browser doesn't have to wait for it all before drawing the page (though I don't see why this should normally cause a delay as all the images have sizes), but what ever it is, it has certainly speeded it up drastically for me! [Bay Area, CA, USA]
I moderated it back up for you.
Told ya to go with Dell..and Now what do you say.. So much for the VA reliabilty and top line components..Hey where is the goofball that said any power supply any mother board and *any box* would work!!!!
Should have used a DELL...They work great in high quality well designed systems..So much for all the hype about Linux vendors high quality crap!!!
i don't think that's the problem, Linux/BSD are fine Webserver OSs, I think Rob needs totake some of that Andover stock and invest in more powerful hardware and bandwidth. I think /. currrrently consists of two P2 boxes. I could be wrong. could someone tell me what their setup is?
This is the problem with the lack of correlation between the numbers of the years, and the set of integers. I say we rename year 1 to year 0, making this 1998.
I've been using SecureCRT for a while now, and it has served me well. SecureCRT also supports port forwarding, and the latest version does SSH2. Only downfall is that it's $99USD to register it, but it's worth it.
It still rawkz. You have the source so you could encrypt & decrypt before the VNC client/server gets it. Gotta love source.
Christ, like you people have never had any downtime. They bust their asses thanklessly and when one little thing goes down you jump down their throats at the first second. (Well, a month in the future at least ) Keep up the good work guys. To all the naysayers....screw you! :)
There was no year 0. Thus the next millennium (notice the two n's in millennium) is 1 AD + 2000 years = 2001. Similarly, the next century is 1 AD + 100 + 100 + 100 + ... = 2001. Since there is a Friday the 13th in 2000, we still have more in this century/millennium.
Take some lessons from Redmond U The server was down for scheduled maintainence...
...that you'll also be fixing the accounts for those of us who can no longer log in... --Used to be "Spiffy"
Please,please,please don't call it "Frisco". We hate that out here. It's soooooo tourist...
DataFellows offers SSH1 and SSH2 clients on a trialware basis, and actually happen to be nice to use, either as an X console emulator, or generally as a Windows app. VanDyke also makes SecureCRT, but it's subject to export restrictions, and I don't have the URL.
Good point. I like Asus boards (although FICs, while looking cheap, have been very reliable lately), CalPC cases, fans, and redundant power supplies (I can't remember how many I have put in -- 250+ -- and no failures yet), Micron RAM, Intel CPUs (I know they run hot -- they are also of good quality), IBM hard drives, DPT or Mylex controllers, CableMakers woven LVD cables, Teac floppies and CDs, Madge NICs (IBM is OK, mostly), Best UPSes, PCKeyboard keyboards (the old IBMs), and Trinitrons. We should have some sort of addition to the Hardware Compatibility List, like a Serious Hardware Compatibility List.
The power supplies on most Intel-type machines are quite crappy. If you have ever worked in a small whitebox shop (as I have), you know that the basic crappy Chinese power supply with have 10-15% deviation from spec and reponds with a hideous sag to any load increase. A good quality American-made power supply deviates 1-2% and exibits essentially no sag under load. Yes, they are worth the money. I use CalPC for power supplies, but an earlier poster said that they were OEM-ed supplies made by www.magtechind.com. So, I will be looking them up (I think that others have been calling, as they were squirrelly about answering questions about OEM-ing for anyone and were confused at why people were all calling them all of a sudden, so we seem to have /.-ed the marketing department!). I think that mongo power supplies are better for a number of reasons. I read an interesting study a few years ago that talked about RAM errors with poor power supplies. I replicated this with a power supply that I had bought for my own machine and the stuff that the company that I was working for was shipping to customers and found that a kernel compile took 20% longer on the lousy supply. I though that this was interesting, so I mentioned it to a friend. He tried the same thing and found that his compile was similarly slower, just not by as much. We were both using parity RAM at the time. Food for thought.
VNC - http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/
who are you speaking for? i live in san francisco and i've heard that term used all the time.
Don't rely on utilities. Don't rely on other businesses. Don't rely on the gov't. Total self-sufficiency is the only way. Of course, the gov't doesn't like self-sufficient people. They diminish the gov'ts power ofer its subjects (see the Montana Freemen).
Cw.net? Please try more like UUnet/Worldcom over the last 2-3 weeks. They have been down more than....(insert rude comment here)!
Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe he was referring to the original poster's AC status.
I agree. If you are going to use Intel boxes for servers you really can't go wrong with Compaq Proliants.
it's cool to note that this is the last day of the Aztec calender........ w/ eclipses & meteor showers, too!
it happens.
Umm... Friday, October 13, 2000 is still in this century. There's one more left, and it's right next to Halloween......
Just delete all the pr0n and get a girlfriend.
They still do. We just purchased a rack mount Tatung with dual power supplies. They are also hot-swappable.
My finger slipped. The above point may be arguable but it is not flamebait. Sorry, -Anonymous Moderator
No matter what amount of hardware redundancy you put in, servers will fail, it's a fact of life. Better to design for availability around a RAIC (redundant array of inexpensive computers).
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If you can afford it, look at the Alteon server switch:
http://www.alteon.com/products/acedirector2-dat
It allows both automatic load balancing and automatic failover at the Ethernet level, and we use it at my employer (an ISP) to ensure maximum availability on our mail servers (as well as smoother load balancing than can be done using DNS round-robin)
If you're really paranoid, you can also hook two together in a redundat configuration. The MTBF on networking gear is much better than for servers, though. How often do you hear complaints about failed Ethernet switches ?
I thought VA Linux provides redundant power supplies to their boxes, no? How about hot swappable power supplies too? LinuxLuVeR
my sshd is sshd2. I just tested putty, and it does not work with ssh2. The web page says: (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty .html) > One more thing, on slashdot, I couldn't create a user account... The Fat Bastard
imho, putty is among the best free software for win32 i've ever touched. ssh support is good, (not new protocol releases, but not important), it's terminal emulator is among the best i've used, etc etc. great tool. highly recommended.
Comments like that show how stupid the average American can get when fed a diet of fast food and television... You are obviously a luser who needs to be hit over the head a few times with some sort of large, slender object, preferrably an iron pipe. PS Don't bother flaming over the "American" part, I am an American myself :)
Hey, October 13th is my Birthday!
Gosh! Whatever you didi to slashdot, please KEEP THIS! It is _blazingly_ fast right now (FRI 13. 19:16 +0200) from this part of the World (Germany), compared to its usual barely readable slowness. So, whatever broke, put it in the trashcan and forget it. :-)
A hobby site with banner ads on every page? Come on, I'm not defending the original postal poster, but "they're working on it" is not an excuse that Slashdot would accept from a pro-Win site (like, maybe that crack win2000 site...). Don't get me wrong, slashdot rocks, but (like every other web site) it's prone to server/network/power problems, and excuses like "it's a hobby site" or "they're working on it..." don't help.
...is a good thing. ;>
Not so much like Slashdot - but company reputation, money through advertisment and e-commerce just to name a few.
What happens if a company with an online store or a site that feeds content to many, many co-brands goes down? You look like an idiot and you lose face and revenue. Not good!
Big sites usually mean big money. Having them down for even a second can be disastrous!
A good dual 400 watt or dual 600 watt 2x unit will run you $900 to $1200. That is for seriously fat watts. I usually get stuff from Magtech out in El Paso (where CalPC gets their power supplies made). More than seven years, and two total failures, out of 600+ out there working hard with (mostly) BSDi and FreeBSD (I am sure that Linux would stress them as well). They are supposed to be that expensive, they are supposed to weigh 15+ pounds each, and they are supposed to have hot-swappable redundant fans. The new ones have serial jacks to let you keep an eye on them. Properly made by a solid manufacturer, power supplies almost never fail. You get what you pay for. If youy got a deal, it was used or you didn't. Example: 386/16, running continuously for almost ten years, almost non-stop. First Interactive, then SCO, now FreeBSD. No failures. Supported a large array of mirrored SCSI drives that had to power up sequentially. It is now my firewall/proxy. The power supply is huge. It rode out power glitches that nuked everyone else's system in the office before we rewired and added some SOLA units. Example: 486/100 with 5 SCSI disks and 128MB RAM, serving about 600 people. One really large power supply -- took up the whole top of the case. It is now on my own LAN, serving my office. No problems. 400 watts rated. Example: 300 watt power supply running the main web server for a friend's ISP. Build on a budget, got used. Survived a lighting strike. Still running. Went from a P90 to a k6-3/400 and 768MB of RAM and 10k drives, and no problems. Standard AT size, weighs 10 pounds. I could go on, but I hope you get my point. I have always spent a lot on power supplies (I have always seen them as the heartbeat of the system) and I have never, save 2 times (one Dr. Pepper, one a major electrical "problem" due to a stoned electrician who auto-Darwinated in the process of taking out a whole shopping center's computer systems and POS systems) have I had trouble. Don't see it? Open up one of those bargain power supplies in a $39.95 case and look at the wiring. Now open up (if you can find one) a good power supply. Notice the difference? Here's a nickel kid. Get yourself a real computer.
I'm sure the fine folks who house slashdot's server know how to test and diagnose a broken power supply. If Rob says it's broke, I'd bet that it's broke.
Number 3.14: 'Walk' your server down the hall, from outlet to outlet to outlet...
(also good if you have redundant ethernet)
Let's see if Andover will spring for some real hardware...
...when a drive fails in the SQL server. One quick (and hushed) call to the DataCentre, and a new driver goes in and gets built on the fly...users never noticed a thing...
I can highly recommend the Compaq Proliant 7000...hot-swap redundant PSU's hotswap RAID in hardware, hotswap PCI slots, integrated hardware monitoring and alerting . . . and a groovy LCD panel on the front...
You never realise the value of hot-swap mirrored drives until you're demoing a front office trading system to the powers-that-be in the company taking yours over (the 'lets try and keep our jobs' demo)
I think I aged 5 years in 10 minutes...
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...why are you suggesting an Intel based box?
Only 'cos I have real-world experience of this kit saving my arse one or twice, and saving our company several millions of dollars...
If you want to send some other eval kit that works as well, I'll sing its praises too...
Regarding hot-swap, it's the hardwares job to hide it from the OS. Example - I can walk up to our production Proliant 7K, pull one PSU and 7 drives from it, and not one of the users will notice the difference (although Data Centre security might give me a hard time). Hot-swapping a PCI network card is a litte more work, as you have to use a provided utility to down the power to the slot before you yank the card. And all this under NT too...
The only thing the OS needs to know about in the hot-swap world is the CPU's. I don't know of anything that will support CPU hot-swap...yet.
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Sun hardware (with the exception of the 5/10, heh) is built very solid. They offer redundant power supplies, RAID built-in among other nice features.
It's not Linux so much but really the choice of hardware. You get what you pay for.
It's also dependant on your design. If you need 24/7 service then you design two or more of everything into the mix.
I'm setting up a nice site with two E250's with redundant power supplies, RAIDs and Resonate. I don't want to be called at 3am... :)
Why don't we create a section called slashdown or something, which posts nothing but downtime news. It would definitely fill in on the weekends when only 1 or 2 stories go on the main page. Then again the amount of downtime news would crash the server. Luckily there's msn.com, which never goes down.
Sounds like /. doesn't have much fail over. Perhaps it's about time to test Andover.net's commitment to /. and get some more hardware, etc.
...since he did not specify which century, he could be right. Of course you'd have to assume that the century that is the topic of discussion started on 1900/01/01 or somewhere around that date.
Of course if the particular century in question began with 1901/01/01, he'd be wrong or if he's talking about the "20th" century he'd be wrong, or if he's talking about the century that began today, well he'd be wrong again. This would of course be the first Friday 13th of *that* century, which means that it can also be the first of *this* century.
Extrapolation from century to millennium is left as an exercise for the reader.
Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.
- W. Wriston, former Citibank CEO
Maybe the problems are related to the record ~1300 commments for the Kansas - education - Bible-thumper - evolution - creation - everybody's pet hot button - jaw-dropping incredible - coming out of the woodwork story?
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An esoteric scratched itch:
Homeworld Map Maker Tool
Shame on ya Rob. With all that Linux hardware about and you had an NT box lying about.
;-)
Shameful...
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
"So, what do we call the years between 1 AD and 1 BC?"
Don't know about you, but I personally call 'em non-existent.
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
"No problem"
Gee, I'll bet that's what e-Bay said too.
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
"That's the great thing about kill-bots, you can always make more."
With a little clever scripting, you CAN do this! I did once (of course the box I was configuring was only across the room -- I suppose that's rather tragically lazy). Basically, whip up a shell script that runs your new ifconfig command, then sleeps for a minute or so, then ifdown's and ifconfig's back to the old (known working) command. If the new command works, your connection comes back up, and you just log in and kill the script and go on your merry way. If it fails, it'll be back up in a minute. Pretty nifty.
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"This moon-cheese will make me very rich! Very rich indeed!
There is no K5 cabal.
I am not the real rusty.
pretty neat ;)
Ita erat quando hic adveni.
Of the few SSH clients for windows, my favorite is putty. Single exe file, nice terminal. No port forwarding, but what can you do? The first site that I found with it when I type "putty ssh" into a search engine is:
http://www.sorted.org/~chris/ssh/
Scuttlemonkey is a troll
It's really a pity that something that just had to have been intended as humor was marked down as flamebait.
Blargh.
Can you PLEASE turn off this "Slashdot overload" function??!!
I'm not if anyone noticed yet.
Yep. Slashdot never really was an shining example of stability and availability...
No , my ISP is using Solaris ... but I think the problem is that ./ is _not_ using something like Solaris. Don't you think ?
heh.. maybe the slashdot servers refused to go up on a friday the 13th, so rob had to set the clock forward a month so it would be a monday?
Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
mail.earthlink.net has also been down for most of the day.
Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
Without much installation or downloading, there is a freeware application out there called PuTTY.EXE. Enjoy.
I've been running 2 and 3 power segment redundant power supplies on 4 server farms for the last few years and had one fail for the first time only recently.
A nice non-tech fellow from accounting was interested in checking out our premise equipment---just out of curiosity. Toward the end of the tour, he tripped on a slim fiber bundle behind a relay rack after answering his cell phone. In his other hand was a tall 20+ ounce styrofoam cup filled with tea. Of course, it's contents hit the rear of a Dell PowerEdge 6300 (running Oracle and all of great importance) alarming two units in the triple-redundant power supply. The server ran on the third. The other two were destroyed but later replaced hot. Slide in the new and press a button.
No kidding!
Of course, one could also interpret this to mean that if you can maintain a Linux system from NT, you can maintain it from anything.
Weblogging Considered Harmful:
here i was thinking that slashdot got slashdotted...silly me
Juiced? Or Not?
You might have a hard time finding someone who got in on Red Hat's IPO invitation. Rumor has it they're all pretty rich now..all three of them. ;)
Bowie J. Poag
Bowie J. Poag
Hehehe.. dont worry, we still love you, Rob.
Bowie
PROPAGANDA
Bowie J. Poag
Bowie J. Poag
when my ISP or a site I visit regularly like /. goes down for a day or 2, it rarely bothers me. "It'll be back up in a day or 2," I say to myself. No problem.
_my_SYSLOG {
/mnt/dskPic 100% full;
/mnt/dskEverything 100% full;
badly written code trashes database files;
users hysterical;
need beer;
exec rm -rf;
return "need_more_space" }
Personally I use mindterm, a java applet that works as a ssh terminal. It's great. Search for mindterm on altavista to find it's homepage. Or have a look at it on http://ion.ath.cx/ssh (Sorry, you can't even try to login at the moment because I'm in the middle of a big restructuring, and there's no sshd running...).
Blame it on thunderstorms.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I know it might be too late to cry over spilled milk, but way back when, vendors started offering a very nifty thing called a "redundant power supply" or "n+1 power"... This would have prevented all these problem.
Sun Tzu must have been running Linux...
- Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him. (Sun Tzu, The art of war)
Marriage is considered capital punishment for the theft of a goat in some third world countries...
Happy Friday the 13th, everybody...
1999 is part of "this century" as well as "this millenium". So is 2000. Jan 1, 2001 is the first day of the new millenium.
He said that today was the last Friday the 13th of this century. Since Friday, October 13, 2000 is a Friday the 13th in this century but is not today, that makes him wrong.
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Put Hemos through English 101!
"An armed society is a polite society" -- Robert Heinlein
Linux MAPI Server!
http://www.openone.com/software/MailOne/
(Exchange Migration HOWTO coming soon)
October 2000 has a Friday the 13th.
However, today IS the last Friday the 13th in "the 1900's".
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Put Hemos through English 101!
"An armed society is a polite society" -- Robert Heinlein
Linux MAPI Server!
http://www.openone.com/software/MailOne/
(Exchange Migration HOWTO coming soon)
Oh, and it's illegal to use in the US without an RSA license. Damn patent laws.
The @Home network? The only reason the @Home network has LOTS of hops is that they're running optical stuff (packet over DWDM), and with that, as opposed to ATM-type links, EVERY link is visible in a traceroute.
BTW, traceroute to Slashdot from @Home:
Tracing route to slashdot.org [206.170.14.75]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 27 ms 30 ms 3 ms ottawa-fe.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.33.1]
2 16 ms 35 ms 24 ms 10.0.184.53
3 41 ms 22 ms 30 ms 24.2.9.9
4 15 ms 26 ms 27 ms c1-pos9-1.bflony1.home.net [24.7.72.245]
5 17 ms 29 ms 33 ms c1-pos1-0.clevoh1.home.net [24.7.65.5]
6 28 ms 30 ms 30 ms c1-pos5-3.cmdnnj1.home.net [24.7.67.158]
7 33 ms 29 ms 30 ms c1-pos1-0.washdc1.home.net [24.7.65.85]
8 35 ms 32 ms 56 ms bb1-pos2-1-0.mae-e.nap.home.net [24.7.72.54]
9 72 ms 72 ms 43 ms mae-east.ibm.net [192.41.177.110]
10 59 ms 66 ms 52 ms beth1sr2-11-0-0.md.us.ibm.net [198.133.27.10]
11 68 ms 71 ms 60 ms bethjbr1-ge-1-0-0-0.md.us.ibm.net [165.87.29.122
]
12 106 ms 95 ms 93 ms sfra1br1-at-2-0-0-2.ca.us.ibm.net [165.87.230.98
]
13 121 ms 89 ms 91 ms sfra1sr3-so-0-0-0-0.ca.us.ibm.net [165.87.13.30]
14 101 ms 112 ms 93 ms 165.87.161.73
15 97 ms 122 ms * ded1-fa11-1-0.snfc21.pbi.net [209.232.130.4]
16 113 ms 95 ms 92 ms 209.232.138.214
17 111 ms 92 ms 92 ms slashdot.org [206.170.14.75]
Personally, I'd say the reason for LOTS of hops is because Slashdot uses PacBell's backbone, which seems to ONLY talk to the world via IBM, etc...
I guess this would be the wrong time to ask for a new poll. *sigh*
J:)
Oh well, no point in steering now.
"Posted by CmdrTaco on Monday September 13, @12:23PM EDT"
:) September? Cool... Temporal distortions on slashdot...
Anyone else notice this?
-Larry
...These aren't the droids you're looking for....Move along....
Now if someone had just hooked me up with some redhat shares, I'd be in the position to donate some hardware to you....
hehehe
-Larry
...These aren't the droids you're looking for....Move along....
This is the problem with flame wars - people say things just to make the other angry. How can you say that this guy was part of a group that critizises but never stands behind his words? For all we know, he could be running a quadruple-redundant server with 10 different leased lines and 4 different power supplies. And for that matter, what part of what he said made him an incompetant IT?
Okay, so you don't like what he said. Fine. Agree to disagree and be done with it. Flames make me sick.
--bdj
I was trying to make some updates to my ethernet card, and remotely did an ifconfig on the card I was connected to. Something didn't work and I lost the connection.
Oh well, the machine is only twenty miles away, and I have to now take a trip. It was a good try though:)
Lesson: Don't remotely configure the ethernet card that you are connected to!
It worked once before, honest!
Steven Rostedt
-- Nevermind
Of course, mine wasn't [computer] hardware problems, but try having the power go out as soon as you get up, be off for 2 hours, come on for 10 mins, go off again for approx. and hour, and then come back on? Besides having a laptop monitor that's spazzing on the video (at some angles, the screen won't display.. but move it a bit, and the picture comes back). And a few other minor details.
But hey, getting back to topic here, tis ok. Stuff happens.. hee hee hee. and always at the most convenient time(s).
Insert mind here.
Well, actually, it's really 2035, if you want to get technical, but then you'd have to admit that this is a religious calendar and thus deeply flawed.
So, what do we call the years between 1 AD and 1 BC?
Will in Seattle
Yeah, if it weren't for the SEC, it probably would have been 3, but I think it's up near the 8000 mark thanks to them.
...
Not that I've got any shares yet
Will in Seattle
Hmmm. I wonder ...
...
How about the question noone wants to ask? Like: Who do you blame for the Red Hat IPO disaster?
A. Red Hat
B. E*Trade/E*Offering
C. SEC
D. All of the above
E. Y2K
F. Will in Seattle
G. The penguins in the cage
I vote for B. But I'm not sure about those penguins
Will in Seattle
H. The Lunar Eclipse (or was that the Solar Eclipse? Not sure which it was)
Will in Seattle
Really, it's 24/7.
C'mon, they guarantee 95% uptime.
Isn't that enough?
;-)
Will in Seattle
It's funny how it's ALWAYS the power supplies that go bad first on Intel boxen. Assuming the PC components survive the first 3 months of their lifespan, the next thing to need replacing (within 2 years) has always been the power supply. Why is this?
Is it just the heat that limits their lifespan? Or are power supplies used in most Intels just crappy??
I once (1 time only) bought a US made PowerCool 300 watt P/S for $150. It's lasted quite a long time but I'm not sure that justifies the hefty price.
I'm curious. What are other folks' experiences?
Has anyone found a good reliable P/S for AT/ATX's??
Is there some secret to it??
(JTOL)
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Don't forget, OPIE has its problems too. Most notably, it is still vulnerable to connection hijacking, so frequent use of OPIE in a particularly hostile environment is generally a bad idea. Intelligently handling su in an environment with lots of root users is nontrivial at best. (Remember, any passwords sent over an OPIE connection can still be sniffed.)
I'm not saying OPIE is bad, or that it shouldn't be used. I'm just saying it needs to be used cautiously.
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Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi
...it wasn't my NT proxy server or my NT exchange server or my SWB-provided ISDN or my Bubba's Basement ISP. (Yes, I'm in hell. Another reason for the /. handle.)
I *was* going to "Ask Slashdot" if nerds were superstitious. Hmmm...
Hang in there guys, we've all been there, with the Great Unwashed standing at the server room door, saying; "Do you have an estimated time?" "Did you know that accounting's down, too?" "What's the problem?" "Should we call someone?" "Can I get my email?" "Should I call my customers?" "Do the phone lines work?"
Mph!
Consigned to flames of woe.
Sorry about the nitpick...really.
Although your use of double entendre is technically correct, it is, in most cases, used for more risque puns.
Again, sorry.
You spent the night in a hotel with an NT box?
You've got a lot of explaining to do, young man.
Oh, Bill, it's just you. LOL
What a crazy little borg you are!
The Divine Creatrix in a Mortal Shell that stays Crunchy in Milk
The House Between - Original Sci-Fi Series
I couldn't get on all morning, but it wasn't a big deal as I was rather busy. However at about 10AM I set up a job to run, and settled in to read a little /. . Much to my surprise I got yesterday's edition. Everything was from about 4PM yesterday. Very odd, and when I refreshed to get the newest version, I got nothing. Odd, but I survived. I agree with past posters who were in favor of getting Andover.net to purchase some new equipment.
Your comment makes no sense. Who are you to bash anyone especially since you don't explain how the previous poster is a "luser"?
It figures an anonymous bastard like yourself would post such trash.
Hates people who have stupid little sigs
I've hand many chances to play with machines with redundant power supplies. In two words, THEY SUCK! Failure rate on redundant power supplies is ENORMOUS. In most cases (double entendre intended) two power supplies must occupy the space normally inhabited by a single power supply. They fail an order of magnitude more often than large single power supplies. IMHO, your overall best bet is redundant servers. Linux doesn't have many built-in high-availability features but the High-Availability HOWTO is a great place to start. But redundant power supplies -- PHEW! They stink!
Matthew P. Barnson
I learn what I think when I read what I write
http://www.lm-sensors.nu
You might have received an email warning that the voltages were beginning to go wacky. I found a dying power-supply and replaced it before services when down with this software. It can tell you when a CPU fan is slowing or stopped, or if things are getting too hot, too. Nifty!
I don't care if the millenium "officially" starts Jan 2001 or not. When it comes not partying this New Years Eve, I'm going to be thinking of other things besides calendar math.
TheGeek
http://www.geekrights.org
TheGeek
http://www.geekrights.org
Kill the monkey
Is this why I haven't gotten any headlines mailed to me either? I'm not smart enough to get to the site myself. I need to be prompted!
nt
Nahh... If NT had not existed, that m/c would still be there but running a different OS. Therefore, NT had only an indirect effect.
james
Tally-ho, yippety-dip, and zing zang spillip. Looking forward to bullying off for the final chukka?
Funny, always has been for me...is your ISP using NT?
"Nobody owns the fucking words man." - James Dean
Who knows how much those ads cover? Is Slashdot turning a profit? Is it supposed to? I know kids in high school who have link exchange banners up on their sites and pull (very marginal) money. Does this mean they're not hobbyists? Ack...
"Nobody owns the fucking words man." - James Dean
Today is the LAST Friday the 13th of this century. Think about it. I think supernatural forces are against Rob!
About this redundancy problem, anyone got any information? Like a book? We need to do that here.
Sounds like your packets are being routed through the @home network!
they said they are working on it, and to switch a complete production site is not that easy, and if I am not totally mistaken it is still partly a hobby site.
Besides, when they start to charge membership fees you can start complaining, until then it is annoying but not much you can do.
If you want to e-mail me, use my PGP Key.
What is NT doing in your hotel room? Slumming? Let this be a lesson to you !
"pull my finger" - Uncle Chuckles
I think it has something to do with Silicon Valley... you would think the computer industry capital of the U.S. would have better internet connections. When I traveled there last week my modem on my laptop went from 50k connect speed at home in the midwest to 26k plus boatloads of lag from Palo Alto.
SecureCRT (vandyke.com) is always available for a download. Granted it dies in 30 days, but god forbid anyone should be away from their own box for that long.
Del
I find it amusing that you use the term "rank amatuers" to describe the staff over at Slashdot. Rob and Co. made Slashdot what it is today, and everyone that reads it is grateful to the amount of work and time that is put into this site by the staff of Slashdot. They made Slashdot into the best humor/technology news site out there, and they are hardly amatuers at what they do. I'm sure just about everyone who reads Slashdot agrees with me when I say that Slashdot does a most excellent job of providing great content. I find it even more amusing that you are part of the crowd who critizises, but is afraid to stand behind their words when they do. You're absouletly right about incomptence running rampant in the IT world these days - you're a shining example of it.
It pains me to see that Slashdot is back up and running thanks in part to NT.
Chill. I'm guessing /. is still "in trasition" to Andover, so multi-redundant backup and high-availabilty is still in the works. Si?
sigfault (core dumped)
MCI WorldCom is experiencing some major network difficulties.
--The more you know, the less you know.
Well, if you measure the "millenium" to end on 12/31/2000, then how are you counting "centuries"? If you're going by the (erroneous) calendar with no year zero, then both century and millenium end on the same day. As for me, I prefer to go by the big high-order digits. 12/31/1999 is close enough for me... but then I'm something of a slacker. ;)
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First off, finding any site(s) without banner ads of some sort is nearly impossible these days. Internet connectivity isn't free. Web hosting isn't free either -- and don't even get me started on those "free" sites that do nothing but litter one's desktop with ads...
/. is (or was) a hobby site. As such, do you honestly expect people to fork out their (hard earned?) cash for redundant, "it will never go down", high availablity hardware? If you do, then you should seek professional help.
/., no one has a leg to stand on if/when it fails. Face it, machines break. I think the /.'ers put more than enough of their time and money into making this geek haven. If you cannot get your /. fix, then that should be taken as an omen to get (back) to work.
Let us do some math in reference to banner ads and "hobby sites"...
Let's make a few assumptions (alright, ALOT of assumptions.) Say your hobby site is fairly popular getting 100k hits per day with an average transfer of 8k per hit. <math> 100000 * 8 / (60 * 60 * 24) == 9.26K/s</math> That's assuming the traffic is perfectly evenly distributed -- which we all know isn't true.
To continuously transmit 9.26K/s would require a 128k connection. A standard analog modem tops out in the 3K/s range. A single ISDN B channel tops out at 7.5K/s. A dual channel ISDN (2B) or 128k frame connection tops out at 15.2K/s. Let's assume you go with ISDN (it's generally the lower cost.)
SO, you'd need an ISDN router (the first person to say "ISDN Modem" gets shot) at a cost of 700$US, an ISDN phone line at a cost of 100$US/month and 200$US installation, and an ISP at a cost of 150$US/month plus 200$US installation (what a rip-off.) That's 1100$US to start plus 250$US per month for your "hobby"... and you haven't even bought a machine to be your web server.
Seeing as no one is being charged for access to
As always, Your Milage MUST Vary!
Traveling occasionally and being forced to use other's machines (usually windoze boxes) I've found a good way to get in without SSH and still keep the crackers off my back. I've installed OPIE, a one time password login mechanism; in addition I installed PilotOTP on my Palm 3 which travels with me everywhere. TCP wrappers are set up to give local network users the standard login prompt while 'twist'ing the rest of the internet to an OTP login..
/usr/sbin/in.telnetd \ /bin/login.opie
hosts.allow has a rule for in.telnetd allowing local network standard access.
in hosts.deny:
in.telnetd: ALL : twist
-L
Hope this helps!
-- Greg
Slashdot, would a spell-checker for posting be too much to ask? It's not rocket science!